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La. teacher thinks it's okay for anyone to use the N-word. (Spoiler: he's white)

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Source: http://www.theroot.com/thats-racist-as-shit-students-confront-white-la-schoo-1794952411

Students at Ben Franklin High School—named Louisiana's top public high school—ended up having to school a white teacher earlier this week after he apparently thought it was cool to just flagrantly use the n-word because, as he put it, it was a ”commoditized word."
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”It's a word that's used so many times that it doesn't mean its original meaning," the teacher responds. ”The word has been commoditized so that anyone can use it, and it's not a negative connotation."
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The teen explains that the word can change meaning based on the speaker's race, which the teacher refutes. ”Not if you want the world to move on," the teacher insists. ”If you want this world to be the way it was 50 years ago, then you're true—you're right."

Eventually the teacher actually drops the word. Because, well, I guess if you're going down that path you may as well go all the way.

More in link.

Also a link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtZR0eRFms

And a follow-up from what I presume is the student led assembly

 

Muffin1611

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You're doing something wrong when the students are schooling you.

he apparently thought it was cool to just flagrantly use the n-word because, as he put it, it was a ”commoditized word."

The fuck does this even mean?
 

Basketball

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not really a racist thing

me thinks

it's just unprofessional as hell
dumbass teacher
 

NOLA_Gaffer

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Nobody should be using that word, regardless of race. It's hateful terminology and the color of your skin doesn't excuse its use.
 
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Reminds me of my third grade teacher who flipped off the entire class saying "It's just a finger...this doesn't mean anything" after someone told on someone else for giving them the finger.

I still laugh thinking about that with everyone in the class just starting at her while she flipped us off. I would've given anything to have someone walk in the room at that moment.
 

PSqueak

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not really a racist thing

me thinks

it's just unprofessional as hell
dumbass teacher

If you think about it, the only way the teacher could think the word has lost its meaning is growing up in a racist environment where everybody and their grandmas drop the N-bomb on a regular basis.

So yes, it is a racist thing.
 

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Muffin1611

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If you think about it, the only way the teacher could think the word has lost its meaning is growing up in a racist environment where everybody and their grandmas drop the N-bomb on a regular basis.

🤔🤔🤔
 

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Not that it matters but I hate when they never specify between nigga and nigger. If you're white you shouldn't be using either I like to know.

Edit: read the article. Smh
 

Etrian Oddity

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For some reason I thought the story was the teacher using "nigga," and then I read the article. Holy shit, he actually thinks it's okay

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Not that it matters but I hate when they never specify between nigga and nigger. If you're white you shouldn't be using either I like to know.
A word will not exit vernacular if it's regularly used. "Nigga" is still very common in pop culture and it won't stop being used across different races or backgrounds until the actual word fades away (aka outta sight, outta mind). Is it distasteful? Of course. But it's unrealistic to insert that word in wide-distributed pop culture as a term of endearment and expect the word to not be picked up by white people (or any people, for that matter).
 

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If you think about it, the only way the teacher could think the word has lost its meaning is growing up in a racist environment where everybody and their grandmas drop the N-bomb on a regular basis.

So yes, it is a racist thing.

lmao.
 

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It's SO EASY to not say the N-word. I literally go every day without saying it, and let me tell you, it takes zero effort. All you have to do is nothing. If the word enters your mind, all you have to do is keep your mouth closed until the thought passes. That's literally it.

These people are the first to throw out "personal responsibility" and "speaking properly," but they can't keep themselves from saying ONE word? We expect children to make it through a school day without cursing and we can't expect an ADULT TEACHER to heep himself from saying the N-word?

Fuck that dude.
 

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I always ask "Why do you want to say it?"

I have yet to hear an answer
"Because THEY can say it and I can't!"

Is all it boils down to, honestly. They wanna say a word that they can't say but I can and it just eats some people alive. Pathetic really.
 

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He says there's nothing negative about it huh?

Okay, sir, put your money where your mouth is. Go to a predominantly black neighborhood as a white man and throw that word out casually at the people you meet.
 

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yes, words can mean different things coming from different people. teacher is highkey racist.
 
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“Not if you want the world to move on,” the teacher insists. “If you want this world to be the way it was 50 years ago, then you’re true—you’re right.”

Oh so that's how we progress, by allowing whites to say nigger.
 

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Is it really hard to grasp that in certain social situations there are certain things you just shouldn't say?

This isn't even necessarily about race. You don't mention fathers to the guy who just lost their dad, then complain that it's "okay to use the word" when they get upset.
 

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For some reason I thought the story was the teacher using "nigga," and then I read the article. Holy shit, he actually thinks it's okay

EDIT::

A word will not exit vernacular if it's regularly used. "Nigga" is still very common in pop culture and it won't stop being used across different races or backgrounds until the actual word fades away (aka outta sight, outta mind). Is it distasteful? Of course. But it's unrealistic to insert that word in wide-distributed pop culture as a term of endearment and expect the word to not be picked up by white people (or any people, for that matter).

Bullshit... I'm part of the Queer community, I could even call my friends my queers (I don't), if you call me a queer that's different.
 

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Is he referring to nigger or nigga? The usage of nigga has become very commonplace. I hear Caucasian, Asian and Latino kids say it at Rutgers. It makes me twitch when I hear it because I guess there is something strange about hearing people of races other than myself say it. I know some people who'll get confrontational about other races saying it but honestly I use the word a lot when speaking with my friends or just around the house but it's something that I've grown up with. I don't know anything about the backgrounds of kids of other races that use it, and maybe it was something that they were exposed to but I hate it when people try to use it to look cool or to fit in. In the wrong places or around the wrong people, attempting to be cool will get you fucked up real quickly. I really want to eliminate the word from my vocabulary or at least drastically reduce my usage of it.

It's conflicting. On the one hand, I think if you use a word enough and embrace it and give it new meaning, yes, it can rob the word of its original meaning which is what I feel has happened largely but not entirely with "nigga" but on the other hand I consider the suffering my ancestors and other people of my race have endured to not be called nigger or any its derivatives and I think no one should say this regardless of what spin you try to put on it.

*the twitter video wasn't available to watch for me but no, I don't think that's a word that should be present in any classroom or spewed from the mouth of any student or educator. In that place, it conveys a sense of ignorance and honestly, stupidity.
 

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What do you gain by saying it? I mean who would you speak it to in common discourse where it would feel okay with that person that you would speak it in public?
 

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It's amazing that an adult, and even a teacher, cannot grasp such a simple concept. Everything has context, even words.
 
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But it's unrealistic to insert that word in wide-distributed pop culture as a term of endearment and expect the word to not be picked up by white people (or any people, for that matter).

This suggestion that white people are inadvertently picking up a word they invented to dehumanize black people because rap is like, what?
 

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That article includes wrong information than what the video represents. They originally were talking about the word "nigga", when he was asking the class if they would say it, while the article says the student asked the class if they would say "nigger".

I also don't believe its racist to simply say the word nigger, specially when having a conversation about it, as the student and article portray. I don't think anyone should say either version of the word either willy nilly either.

That's also an incredibly weird and inappropriate topic to bring up in a high school class, and doubly when its a substitute teacher.
 
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We need an update to the "Awful Teacher Experience thread".

This is like some Tarantino bullshit. No, you dont get to tell the groups affected by a slur how to feel or deal with the word. Especially not to justify your use of it. In 2017, that shit is still offensive, and it's gonna stay that way for a while.
 

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If two persons of the same race, be it black, white, etc. are referring to each other as "niggas" that's their business but they shouldn't go about using those terms on people outside their race, most especially on black people.
 

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I try to avoid using nigga/nigger as i've grown older. Essentially blacks parroting racist whites with other races now parroting us.
 

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Source: http://www.theroot.com/thats-racist-as-shit-students-confront-white-la-schoo-1794952411



Eventually the teacher actually drops the word. Because, well, I guess if you're going down that path you may as well go all the way.

More in link.

Also a link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtZR0eRFms

And a follow-up from what I presume is the student led assembly
That teacher sounds like alot of neogaffers whove used that exact same devilish logic.