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Late Night Wars - Conan's last Tonight Show was TONIGHT a long time ago

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Willco said:
What a jerk. At least Leno looks out for his own, including paying his staff during the strike on a far more expensive show.
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Willco said:
What a jerk. At least Leno looks out for his own, including paying his staff during the strike on a far more expensive show.
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You seriously fail so much, so absolutely much, it is sickening.

I don't mean as a person fyi, I mean as a troll. You suck at it. You can't mention it elsewhere then come here and fail this miserably at it. No one is even buying your trolling.

Seriously, take lessons in subtlety or something and try again. It really means nothing overall because we Conan fans (especially those that WATCH Conan) lose. We have the winning team in terms of fans (Especially fans who actually care; see Team Conan vs. Team Leno on FB, its embarrassing for Leno to have that few fans who can use a computer.
 
snesfreak said:
A great feature, everyone should use it.
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I don't have anyone on my ignore list. People I disagree with at one point I am fine with later on. Some people are just trolls but I could miss a big part of a conversation if I ignore them.

I'm probably on 50 people's because I treat this as a forum for discussion and have taken a stance people disagree with many times :lol
 
DMczaf said:
I think he thinks he's now trolling the people who know he's trolling.
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That's about all it can be. Smells of desperation.

Is there any way to see a list of people who have you ignored? I'd treat that as a source of pride!
 
Willco said:
You might want to take a look at my post history. I've been a Leno fan since as long as this forum has been around.

You can think that if you want, but Leno is the best of the best in my book and got a totally raw deal from NBC. I'm glad he's taking The Tonight Show back, because somebody needs to rescue it before Conan totally destroys it.
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At this point, I highly doubt leno will save it. He still looks like the bad guy. He will never beat letterman now.
 
Willco said:
You might want to take a look at my post history. I've been a Leno fan since as long as this forum has been around.

You can think that if you want, but Leno is the best of the best in my book and got a totally raw deal from NBC. I'm glad he's taking The Tonight Show back, because somebody needs to rescue it before Conan totally destroys it.
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Deciding to be done with the Tonight Show and agreeing to smoothly transition out of it was not a raw deal, it was retiring from the late night circuit. NBC even bent over backwards, killing their primetime lineup, to give him a new show he can host at an earlier timeslot. Then his rating falter and are awful, and so they give him his show back. It doesn't matter that "The Jay Leno Show" got cancelled after 4 months, because he and his team were promoted right back to the coveted 11:30 timeslot. To them, there was no cancellation but a promotion right back up the ranks. Everyone has bent over backwards to make sure that he got the best deal possible every damned step of the way. How the hell can you argue that he got the raw deal at all in this whole mess?

EDIT: The only thing that's going to be bad for him is now everyone who wasn't around during the scandals of the 90s now thinks hes a jerk as well. But good news for him, most people have a memory of 2 days and just move on to the next thing.
 
Kunan said:
Deciding to be done with the Tonight Show and agreeing to smoothly transition out of it was not a raw deal, it was retiring from the late night circuit. NBC even bent over backwards, killing their primetime lineup, to give him a new show he can host at an earlier timeslot. Then his rating falter and are awful, and so they give him his show back. It doesn't matter that "The Jay Leno Show" got cancelled after 4 months, because he and his team were promoted right back to the coveted 11:30 timeslot. To them, there was no cancellation but a promotion right back up the ranks. Everyone has bent over backwards to make sure that he got the best deal possible every damned step of the way. How the hell can you argue that he got the raw deal at all in this whole mess?

EDIT: The only thing that's going to be bad for him is now everyone who wasn't around during the scandals of the 90s now thinks hes a jerk as well. But good news for him, most people have a memory of 2 days and just move on to the next thing.
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Wait, you think NBC gave leno the 10pm slot to make him happy? Really? The Jay Leno show exists because NBC didn't really have any thing there in the first place and it's hugely profitable for NBC. If the affiliates weren't complaining the Jay Leno show wouldn't be going anywhere.

:lol at you thinking that anything NBC does isn't about their own bottom line.
 
Igo said:
Wait, you think NBC gave leno the 10pm slot to make him happy? Really? The Jay Leno show exists because NBC didn't really have any thing there in the first place and it's hugely profitable for NBC. If the affiliates weren't complaining the Jay Leno show wouldn't be going anywhere.

:lol at you thinking that anything NBC does isn't about their own bottom line.
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Whatever. My failings at wording things aside, he never got the raw deal.
 
Coolio McAwesome said:
That article seems pretty suspicious to me. NBC is obviously going to try and swing popular opinion in theri favor and its not like Leno's camp doesn't have a history of leaking fake stories to the press in oder to help his career.
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Oh? Like what?
 
Igo said:
Wait, you think NBC gave leno the 10pm slot to make him happy? Really? The Jay Leno show exists because NBC didn't really have any thing there in the first place and it's hugely profitable for NBC. If the affiliates weren't complaining the Jay Leno show wouldn't be going anywhere.

:lol at you thinking that anything NBC does isn't about their own bottom line.
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NBC kept Leno around because he still wanted to work and was discussing going to another network. They decided to give him the 10pm show and did the PR spin that it was a very cheap show to make so it was worth the risk. So yes, they gave it to Leno to make him happy.
 
Some of you in here are silly. After all of this if you think Conan playing a tiny clip from Leno years ago is going to hurt his ego in any way shape or form, then you must have thought they were going to blow up the Death Star on the first run.
 
Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
Some of you in here are silly. After all of this if you think Conan playing a tiny clip from Leno years ago is going to hurt his ego in any way shape or form, then you must have thought they were going to blow up the Death Star on the first run.
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I had good money on that fat fuck Porkins.
 
Agent Unknown said:
Conan should seriously just mess with them now, stick with the current contract, and TAKE the 30 min bump just to humiliate and frustrate them.
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Yes, wouldn't that be epic?

The intro joke would be something like

"I'm taking after my pal Jay Leno.

Changing my mind."
 
Eric WK said:
Here's Leno's announcement in 2004 that he would be leaving TTS.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6d1caacad1/jay-s-2004-announcement

What a fucking joke.
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God damn. I hope someone shows this to Leno before this is all over. Maybe with the message "Dignity is not overrated."

I won't watch a single episode of TTS after this is all over. What a shameful thing for what's been the source some of my favorite television memories - going over all the old Carson tapes, just a true legacy - to be subject to.
 
Yeah i kinda agree w the other poster who said he should take the move back. Jay wouldnt do well in a 30min show and conan could just kill jay and nbc every night. I think if he did that they might fire him. The attacks on nbc and zucker really seem to bug them
 
goldenticket said:
I havent been around much today did he officially sign?
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No word on whether he signed or not (going by deadline.com; GAF seems to find it most credible). TMZ is saying Conan has a no-compete period, which is something I thought that Conan was fighting against. Could still be arguing out the details, but so far I don't see any final uber confirmation.
 
Igo said:
Wait, you think NBC gave leno the 10pm slot to make him happy? Really? The Jay Leno show exists because NBC didn't really have any thing there in the first place and it's hugely profitable for NBC. If the affiliates weren't complaining the Jay Leno show wouldn't be going anywhere.

:lol at you thinking that anything NBC does isn't about their own bottom line.
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It's not hugely profitable. NBC came out when the show started and said "it only has to reach these rating figures and still be quite profitable for us".

It wasn't reaching those ratings.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
NBC kept Leno around because he still wanted to work and was discussing going to another network. They decided to give him the 10pm show and did the PR spin that it was a very cheap show to make so it was worth the risk. So yes, they gave it to Leno to make him happy.
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PR spin? These talk shows are cheap compared to a full schedule of 5 different primetime shows.

If you want to call preventing Leno form starting a competing show and eating away at their ratings and advertising revenue "keeping Leno happy" then fine. Strange way to look at things though.

Despite what people would have you believe, Leno doesn't make the decisions at NBC. He's just another performer that NBC leverage for $$$.
 
perfectchaos007 said:
So is it official now what TMZ reported yesterday about Jay Leno taking back the tonight show and NBC letting Conan resign?
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Yes.

Word was NBC was gonna put out the press release today, guess it'll be tomorrow.
 
gdt5016 said:
Yes.

Word was NBC was gonna put out the press release today, guess it'll be tomorrow.
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Okay so we're still waiting for NBC to come out with the official report. cool. Any word on Conan's guests next week? His final week :(
 
perfectchaos007 said:
Okay so we're still waiting for NBC to come out with the official report. cool. Any word on Conan's guests next week? His final week :(
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Monday will be Martin Scorsese and Colin Firth, Tuesday will be Tom Hanks.

That's all we know so far.
 
legend166 said:
It's not hugely profitable. NBC came out when the show started and said "it only has to reach these rating figures and still be quite profitable for us".

It wasn't reaching those ratings.
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Jay
I'm told if we can keep a 1.5 [rating], they make $300 million a year; this is what they say. So we're a little above the 1.5, we're doing OK.
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Not sure what his rating are now.
 
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