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Late Night Wars - Conan's last Tonight Show was TONIGHT a long time ago

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Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
Barry Manilow will be his final guest.
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gdt5016 said:
We'll see.

He'd either do it Thursday or Friday.

I really hope he does it.
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Well, if there's any truth whatsoever to the "tone down on the NBC trash talking" clause of the deal, then I would definitely expect Howard not to be on. What would be the point?

I really hope that isn't true. I was really looking forward to another week of what we've been seeing this week. If Conan has to go out there and pretend that everything is back to normal, it's going to be disappointing.
 
Anaxagoras said:
I just remembered that I started a Jay Leno fanpage a long time ago on facebook, haven't checked it in a long time but damn its active right now . :lol

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jay-Leno/10653138542?ref=ts

I thinking of writing something to the fans as Jay Leno, like I am on team Coco.
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HOLY SHIT.. DO IT! Impersonate Jay Leno!

edit: and ffs be subtle about it.. dont say you are on Team Coco.. dont do what that one guy did earlier in the thread.
 
I thought the "tone down the bashing of NBC" thing was for after he leaves?

Edit: Now that I think about it, lol, whats the use in that?
 
Steve Youngblood said:
Well, if there's any truth whatsoever to the "tone down on the NBC trash talking" clause of the deal, then I would definitely expect Howard not to be on. What would be the point?
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Is that effective immediately? The way I read it, it sounded like the clause would go into effect once he actually leaves the network.
 
Cerrius said:
smh

Leno will NEVER live this down. NEVER.
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Leno's fanbase barely even know any of this is happening. They'll turn on the TV when leno is on TTS and go "oh, I thought he was on at 10 now? I guess that was like a few month special or something, back to watching him after the local news. lol his monologue was teh funnay!"
 
Igo said:
PR spin? These talk shows are cheap compared to a full schedule of 5 different primetime shows.

If you want to call preventing Leno form starting a competing show and eating away at their ratings and advertising revenue "keeping Leno happy" then fine. Strange way to look at things though.

Despite what people would have you believe, Leno doesn't make the decisions at NBC. He's just another performer that NBC leverage for $$$.
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I'm saying it's PR spin because they had to explain why they would put on a talk show instead of original scripted programming every week. Also because people like you actually believed the plan was originally to put Jay at 10pm rather than Jay getting cold feet about retiring.
 
Anaxagoras said:
I change it to that if I didn't find anything better to change it to.

Jay Leno's fanpage hacked by angry Conan fans, news at 11.
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hmmm.. hacking.. that will work. Make a post or something about how Team Coco now controls Jay Lenos Facebook page and that we wont relinquish it until Conan has The Tonight Show back.

You will make internet news. Possibly more.
 
I think changing it to whatever would be funny, so long as people are ready for the screen captures the second it goes up.
 
Number 2 said:
hmmm.. hacking.. that will work. Make a post or something about how Team Coco now controls Jay Lenos Facebook page and that we wont relinquish it until Conan has The Tonight Show back.

You will make internet news. Possibly more.
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Ok, someone make a picture that says this in an anonymous like style. I can also write something under his pic in the ''Write something about Jay Leno.'' space.

btw, its connected to my profile so be easy. ^^
 
I hope conan doesnt just cave like the cant talk bad about nbc thing and cant have a show for so long. I think he will have to stay away fora while but anything more then 6 months is too much. He should just keep doimg the show until he gets a better offer from nbc
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
I'm saying it's PR spin because they had to explain why they would put on a talk show instead of original scripted programming every week. Also because people like you actually believed the plan was originally to put Jay at 10pm rather than Jay getting cold feet about retiring.
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:lol People like me. I'm not even sure what that means.

NBC thought that the money they could make on a Leno show at 10 would be more than the profits from 5 different primetime shows on top of the losses incurred from competing against him on another network. If they didn't they wouldn't have given him the contract in the first place.

These decisions aren't made on a whim. They have some crack team of monkeys in some room doing all these calculations. This is actually easier to figure out than what shows will and won't be hits. I don't think any of the networks except perhaps CBS have that down.
 
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Changed pic to team Coco and add this under it:
Team Coco now controls Jay Lenos Facebook page and wont relinquish it until Conan has The Tonight Show back.

Someone put this up on digg :D
 
Jubs said:
It's not mentioned in the link, but Jersey Shore beat Leno on Thursday also. JERSEY SHORE.
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Leno was getting his ass kicked by many 10pm Cable tv show slots. Sons of Anarchy and Burn Notice did it too. I forget what that TnT show is called but I believe that did it too.
 
Anaxagoras said:
The reactions have started:
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It's funny to think adults watch Jay Leno, but these people are really in their rooms coloring- and if they stay within the lines, it might go up on the fridge, but it won't because elephants aren't orange, the idiots.

shamelessly stolen from Daniel Tosh
 
I'll just say I'm glad to see many here appreciate, respect and like Johnny Carson :D He really was the best at what he did. There will never be another Johnny Carson, ever again. He and Ed were great. For those of you who either really love him, or want to see even more clips and stuff I HIGHLY recommend the 12 DVD "Heeere's Johnny!" DVD set. WELL well worth every penny. I asked for it for Christmas a few years ago and got it. Great stuff..alot of the more memorable clips are in it..including the Chip Lady some posted Youtube links of..his final show in it's entirety..alot of the more memorable animal guests he had on and even a few of his very rare specials are on there too. The one where he went back to Nebraska is in the set. Here's a link for those interested in it and might want to buy it:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UFIYQ2/?tag=neogaf0e-20

It's $77.99 and in stock at Amazon. They're about the only place I've seen it recently. Some Best Buys occasionally get one or 2 but if you're interested in it Amazon's your best bet :) It's getting somewhat more difficult to find now so now might be a good time if you want it.

Yes, it is kinda pricey but it's well worth it if you appreciate and respect Johnny and his comedy.

As for the current Late Night mess, I have my own opinion but it'd be best for me to stay out of it...just thought I'd pass along the info about the Johnny Carson DVD set!
 
Willco said:
You can think that if you want, but Leno is the best of the best in my book and got a totally raw deal from NBC.
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When it's all said and done, Conan, just like Carson and Letterman, actually left a mark on late night television and comedy in general.

What has Jay Leno done?

Exactly.
 
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