M1987
Member
Nothing on Gamepass works without using it on my DualSense,on Steam is fine though
Lies of P |OT| Woodborn
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Revolutionary
Member
If you're just plugging them in without Steam Input then yes they probably won't work on Game Pass games. But most GP games can detect them through Steam Input, which is why I haven't needed to use DS4Windows in 5+ years.
This is the first time (for me) where a game just doesn't detect Sony AND Nintendo controllers, with or without Steam Input. In any case, I appreciate you letting me know that DS4W is still being updated.
Reizo Ryuu
Gold Member
But it's on Xbox not steam...
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I've just had a quick go on this up to the first real boss, looks nice and polished.
I'm genuinely surprised how similar it is to From's games.
It seems pretty good though, will play more.
I'm genuinely surprised how similar it is to From's games.
It seems pretty good though, will play more.
Little Chicken
Gold Member
Have been reading that being good at parrying is pretty much a prerequisite to progression.
I was so bad at Sekiro so I'm a bit anxious.
I was so bad at Sekiro so I'm a bit anxious.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I don't understand the combat...
You move so slowly when locked on and your dodge is 1-step.
How am I supposed to get in close to the guy to hit him and then dodge if I cant dodge after starting an attack.
And parrying sucks ass. It's VERY late and even if you perfect parry, it doesnt stop or stagger them. i dont get it.
Breeze until parade master but he seems impossible...
tomorrow...
You move so slowly when locked on and your dodge is 1-step.
How am I supposed to get in close to the guy to hit him and then dodge if I cant dodge after starting an attack.
And parrying sucks ass. It's VERY late and even if you perfect parry, it doesnt stop or stagger them. i dont get it.
Breeze until parade master but he seems impossible...
tomorrow...
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M1987
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Yeah it feels like I'm playing a reskin of Bloodborne.The performance of this game should embarrass all the top devs.I'm playing at 4k60 as that's all my tv does,but I've seen people playing at 120fps+ at 4k DLSS quality on a 3080
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
yeah it runs 120 fps maxed out 4k, dlss quality on a 3080.
But what's the surprise? The game looks like ass
GymWolf
Gold Member
I think the animations have some personality because they are puppets and they move accordingly, i really like the way they look and move.
I have a thing for puppet enemies since the mobs in dmc1
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M1987
Member
No it doesn't
it's not Forbidden West obviously,but it's still a very good looking game
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
The art is ok and graphics are fine but it’s so flatNo it doesn't
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Mister Wolf
Member
The graphics are better than Elden Ring. Performs way better too.
Little Chicken
Gold Member
Just spent an hour with it and I take back any reservations I had because so far so good. Really does feel like an extension of Bloodborne due to the late Victorian setting.
Danteyke223
Member
So just a quick tip that I read under a Youtube video comment. When it comes to Perfect Blocking, do not tap the block button (sekiro's way of blocking), instead hold it and do not let go till the attack finishes. I think the whole system is not explained properly / something is lost in translation between Korean and English.
TheDarkPhantom
Member
Some photo goodness (PS5 Performance mode) 
Anyone saying the game isn't pretty can be safely ignored because they have brain damage:
Anyone saying the game isn't pretty can be safely ignored because they have brain damage:
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Grildon Tundy
Member
I didn't realize they did that. However, I recall the dodge being sluggish and off in the demo, but I just played through the demo area in the full game, and I thought it felt much better.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Is overleveling a thing for bosses? I find it interesting when someone makes the claim that you over leveled for a boss. I was raising my motility or base strength and I noticed it significantly. I just wonder if weapon scaling is something to consider
now entering spoiler city
Some photo goodness (PS5 Performance mode)
now entering spoiler city
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Grildon Tundy
Member
I hope this is what I was doing wrong, because I'm pretty sure I hit guard immediately before/on impact yet I wasn't getting the perfect parries I thought I should.
Timberwolf25
Member
So what's a good controller setting? I didn't really like the default and changed it to more "traditional" hack and slash settings. I put block/parry on LT though as these kind of games wear the hell out of the LB buttons....lol
My config:
X= nml attack
Y = Special/Charge attack
B = Dodge
A = Jump
LB = Legion Arm
LT = Guard
RB = Belt item
RT = Fable Art
L stick = Interact
R stick = Lock on
My config:
X= nml attack
Y = Special/Charge attack
B = Dodge
A = Jump
LB = Legion Arm
LT = Guard
RB = Belt item
RT = Fable Art
L stick = Interact
R stick = Lock on
gunslikewhoa
Member
Wow. I hope these guys never stop making these games.
Mister Wolf
Member
There are a ton of fairy tales they can put a horror spin on.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Best production values for what exactly? A Souls style game or ANY game?? Surely not the latter..
Mister Wolf
Member
Lies of P has native 4:3 support, for anyone using a CRT:
What are the positives of playing on a CRT?
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Xdrive05
Member
For new games, perfect motion resolution (clarity), no input lag and true blacks. (My crappy off-screen phone pics don't do it justice by a long shot)
See:
For older games, no upscaling at all to run pixel perfect lower resolutions. All low resolutions look great because the electron gun can just shoot out the exact "pixels" needed for the image onto the phosphors, whereas LCDs and OLEDs have to cram and stretch low res images to fill their fixed pixel panels.
Punished Miku
Human Rights Subscription Service
GeezSome photo goodness (PS5 Performance mode)
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Downloading this on Xbox, will check in down-time even though I absolutely suck at these kind of games.
Hopefully it has good on-boarding.
Hopefully it has good on-boarding.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Turned off v sync on Steam Deck and it made a noticeable difference. I didn’t mind 30 fps with Bloodborne and so it runs great at 30 fps. No complaints there. The game loads all the shaders before the game boots to menu, as in its own menu. I’ve never seen a dedicated menu for shaders. So far it’s ran pretty good on Steam Deck.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Absolutely not better lol. Flat shading and less geometry than bloodborne.
At least the begging of a game looks like that.
I mean even was watching dr disrespect for few minutes yesterday and he was looking for more options to crank it up and it was already at max. He said it looks bad and I don’t think it looks that’s bad but it certainly looks closer to ds2 than bloodborne
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Nah. The animations suck and your speed sucks. He is doing wild swings out of nowhere and you have no speed or dodge length to dodge that… and parry leaves you vulnerable to next attack.
I am sure we will get through this next time but it doesn’t feel right.
TheDarkPhantom
Member
Shuhei Yoshida - head of PlayStation indies and known Souls fanatic - has been pushing Lies of P hard on X:
PlayStation would do well to move in on this dev while they still can.
PlayStation would do well to move in on this dev while they still can.
Arsic
Loves his juicy stink trail scent
Careful. There’s guys in this thread saying the game looks like dark souls 2 visually.
The amount of brain damage you’d have to be subject to to think this game looks bad is absolutely astronomical.
Kakax11
Banned
No, it doesn't look like that weirdo broken 30fps locked randomly walking into bosses game
the one that looks like it was made on Windows 98 PC in 2011
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
You have to have brain damage to think it looks great.
Looks like indie ue game. Flat. Nothing more.
It looks good. Just nothing special. Static and flat.
Don’t confuse graphics with art. The game got nothing even on bloodborne. 2015 game. Dark souls 2 is better and looks better lol
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M1987
Member
Shuhei Yoshida - head of PlayStation indies and known Souls fanatic - has been pushing Lies of P hard on X:
PlayStation would do well to move in on this dev while they still can.
They should snap them up asap
The Cockatrice
Banned
Looks better than Forspoken.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Absolutely not lol
TheDarkPhantom
Member
Some tips/tricks for those who are just starting out (some of this should be obvious):
- unlocking 3rd amulet slot should be a priority
- you can never go wrong upgrading healing potions
- 59% is the threshold to maintain light weight/movement so Capacity stat becomes increasingly important even if you're running a "light" build. Why? The weight of defensive accessories becomes increasingly heavy. Combine that with Arms and weapon weight and you can easily go over.
- moreso than Souls, if you're running a Dex build (Technique) then investing any points in Strength (Motivity) is useless since there isn't any armor stat requirements to worry about.
- use the phantom NPC on boss fights if you're having trouble. It will do some decent DMG but more importantly, serve as a distraction allowing you to let loose from behind a boss/buy time to heal etc.
- DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THROWABLES! These also have stat scaling and can make the difference between victory and defeat. I've had a couple of boss battles where I'd used up all my healing potions, boss was down to 15-20% health and I finished it off with Throwables.
- tutorial says you CANNOT dodge attacks when the enemy glows red. This is confusing because the truth is you can (and more often than not should!) but just make sure you're not in the impact zone.
- enemy specific type amulets can make a tangible difference to DMG output, don't forget to switch them out depending on the area you're in/enemy type you're facing.
- because you can alter stat scaling through Cranks (brilliant idea!) you should absolutely experiment with a variety of weapons. However, you CANNOT change the stat scaling of Arms (after 20 hours at least, doubt this will change). Luckily the 2 Arms I favour most scale with Tech lol
- carefully consider what to use boss souls on, weapon or amulet. If you've already got a formidable weapon then I'd lean toward amulet even if that boss weapon scales with the build I'm running. Example: last night I beat a boss, could make a badass weapon that scales with Tech. I've already got a great boss Tech weapon, the amulet on the other hand increases ALL Arm tiers by +1 (so if the Arm had A scaling it now has S). That's going to help my build much more overall.
- charge attacks (R2) combined with Fable Arts (triangle) can quickly help put an enemy into a staggerable state. Obviously depends on the weapon/attack with heavier weapons building stagger window quicker.
- although you can equip 2 sets of weapons it's not worth doing so because of the increased weight. Of course, if you're happy having a heavier build and don't mind the movement/stamina penalty then go right ahead!
Hope that helps anyone having trouble with the game though honestly this is easier than any of the Souls games and should be more "accessible" to a wider audience.
- unlocking 3rd amulet slot should be a priority
- you can never go wrong upgrading healing potions
- 59% is the threshold to maintain light weight/movement so Capacity stat becomes increasingly important even if you're running a "light" build. Why? The weight of defensive accessories becomes increasingly heavy. Combine that with Arms and weapon weight and you can easily go over.
- moreso than Souls, if you're running a Dex build (Technique) then investing any points in Strength (Motivity) is useless since there isn't any armor stat requirements to worry about.
- use the phantom NPC on boss fights if you're having trouble. It will do some decent DMG but more importantly, serve as a distraction allowing you to let loose from behind a boss/buy time to heal etc.
- DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THROWABLES! These also have stat scaling and can make the difference between victory and defeat. I've had a couple of boss battles where I'd used up all my healing potions, boss was down to 15-20% health and I finished it off with Throwables.
- tutorial says you CANNOT dodge attacks when the enemy glows red. This is confusing because the truth is you can (and more often than not should!) but just make sure you're not in the impact zone.
- enemy specific type amulets can make a tangible difference to DMG output, don't forget to switch them out depending on the area you're in/enemy type you're facing.
- because you can alter stat scaling through Cranks (brilliant idea!) you should absolutely experiment with a variety of weapons. However, you CANNOT change the stat scaling of Arms (after 20 hours at least, doubt this will change). Luckily the 2 Arms I favour most scale with Tech lol
- carefully consider what to use boss souls on, weapon or amulet. If you've already got a formidable weapon then I'd lean toward amulet even if that boss weapon scales with the build I'm running. Example: last night I beat a boss, could make a badass weapon that scales with Tech. I've already got a great boss Tech weapon, the amulet on the other hand increases ALL Arm tiers by +1 (so if the Arm had A scaling it now has S). That's going to help my build much more overall.
- charge attacks (R2) combined with Fable Arts (triangle) can quickly help put an enemy into a staggerable state. Obviously depends on the weapon/attack with heavier weapons building stagger window quicker.
- although you can equip 2 sets of weapons it's not worth doing so because of the increased weight. Of course, if you're happy having a heavier build and don't mind the movement/stamina penalty then go right ahead!
Hope that helps anyone having trouble with the game though honestly this is easier than any of the Souls games and should be more "accessible" to a wider audience.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Lies of P ability and weapon scaling explained: How does it work and what do letters mean?
Ability and weapon scaling can be some of the most important mechanics in Lies of P if you tweak your build to use these powerful bonuses.
www.altchar.com
R2 is very useful.
I’ve been using a greatsword and it’s worked so far. No need to overthink it.
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saintjules
Gold Member
nevermind.
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