Visualante2
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I'm not hopeful any longer. Expecting Doom and Dishonored as the main course, with this teaser as dessert.
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Linkedin Stalking: Mirada Studios worked on a Fallout 4 cinematic trailer
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paragonpro
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It's so close I can taste it....and it tastes like nuclear waste. But seriously I am so ready to jump back in to another Bethesda rpg, they just handle immersion so well.
Wolvesinthebathroom
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I think it was already confirmed dishonerd 2 isn't going to be at E3.
Edit: never mind that's just a rumor.
BibiMaghoo
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Right, but he has nothing to do with Fallout 4, hence my confusion.
Mirada Studios is Del Toro's studio,
BibiMaghoo
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Aha, thank you. That was the bit I missed.
Octavianus
Banned
Not at all but Van Buren sounded like it was going to be incredible.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Van_Buren
I was really looking forward to it ;_;.
Yep, Obsidian is surprisingly cool about stuff like that. Chris Avellone has also said that he would love to make a Knights of the Old Republic 3, even though he and Obsidian were treated horrible by everyone when they made the second game.
Hip Hop
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That would be for me one of the biggest "comebacks" in gaming if it happened.
Would love Bethesda forever.
Diablohead
Member
Personally a CG trailer doesn't do it for me any longer, I find them a waste.
InsaneTiger
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My body is ready
Yeah id rather see gameplay.
Blooddimond
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A fair amount of the stuff from van buren made its way into New Vegas from what I recall. It's the closest we'll get.
That doesn't make it hurt less though
Vital Tundra
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Hope it's Obsidian. That metacritic debacle was terrible but they are great at what they do. And after City: Skylines and especially after Pillars. Holy fuck!
Obsidian is not exactly in a position to hold grudges or be picky about they work on. Pillars gave them a ton of breathing room, but they're still an extraordinarily large studio.
Still it's only a distant dream they'd be on Fallout 4. Let's just be realistic and hope Bethesda has improved their writing and quest design teams.
Yeah, I know a year or two back some one from Obsidian said they would love to do another Fallout and thought it was a good idea for Bethesda to do east coast fallout cause that was the area they were more familiar with and Obsidian do west coast. I'm all for that scenario, twice the Fallout. And while I prefer Obsidian's Fallout and think it is definitely superior, I'll totally enjoy a Bethesda one too.
So this is pretty funny. Read bottom to top
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Jim's comment nails it:
I got the same e-mail, lol:
tldr; we fucked up, take down your shit
Doug Heffernan
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Hopefully they demo some gameplay after the cinematic trailer.
shinobi602
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So this is pretty funny. Read bottom to top
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Jim's comment nails it:
I got the same e-mail, lol:
tldr; we fucked up, take down your shit
SocksAndShoes
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maquiladora
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My hope is that the cinematic trailer will be released before E3, to announce the game and build hype for the press conference where we'll then get a full reveal and gameplay...right? Right?!
Breakfast at Noon
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And now the announcement is delayed due to this and they will just talk about skyrim hd at the conference and announce this later in the year lol
MrNyarlathotep
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So Luis Nieves is about to get a bollocking for updating his CV, huh?
I don't think many would state that Bethesda games have always been terrible. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind is a fantastic game. As far as world-simulation goes, it's still one of the best examples. The care for small details that allow for scrutiny gives the world credibility most games never achieve. Here are a few examples:
That said, post-Morrowind Elder Scrolls games have suffered design changes that have had negative ramifications for the series. One of the most drastic changes was that of quest-marker design in Oblivion and subsequent games, which has a severe effect on the entire game. It's this move towards a mainstream audience, simplification, and production values that has caused the decline in quality for the series. It's no wonder why many hold a negative opinion based on this change.
I hope you're not trying to use a appeal to the people fallacy as grounds for their quality. It's true their recent games have sold more, which is why they continue to target the mainstream demographic, and why important design decisions are swayed in favor of what the mainstream wants, despite the consequences. Fallout 3 particularly continued with many of the design faults Oblivion introduced. Not only that, but it also chose to do things that didn't respect the lore and core design philosophies of the previous games, something that at least New Vegas was able to do.
They were only two of some of the best RPGs of all time, and are still considered to be so by many RPG enthusiast.
Ultimately, it's particular disappointing that Bethesda, after the showcase for world-building that was Morrowind, has gone in the opposite direction. Their games are no longer trying to simulate a world, but are more akin to theme parks. Despite all I've said, I don't think Bethesda has quite declined to the point of being terrible, and I am looking forward to seeing what they do with Fallout 4. The one recent rumor I'm particularly afraid of is that of the player-character being fully voiced.
So this is pretty funny. Read bottom to top
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Jim's comment nails it:
So good.
So this is pretty funny. Read bottom to top
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Jim's comment nails it:
Yeah, I read the update on her destructoid article as well:
It's utterly laughable to push for a takedown under the pretence that someone else's mistake of breaking their own NDA, is some how a journalists responsibility as well.
Vincent Grayson
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Heh, that's not how NDAs work like, at all.
I never saw the Fallout 3 reveal and I'm not really sure how I feel about a CG Fallout 4 reveal.
As much as I would prefer an Obsidian Fallout (to the point I would preorder the collector's edition), we would've heard something by now if Fallout 4 has really been in production for awhile. I'm definitely getting Fallout 4, but i'm waiting for the GOTY/Ultimate edition and the modding community to grow some (I wonder if paid mods are being introduced.
I also don't see Obsidian letting the Metacritic thing prevent them from working with Bethesda again. Like someone mentioned early, Obsidian can't really afford to say no to any project even with the success of Pillars of Eternity. In fact, I'm pretty sure Obsidian is a bit bigger than Bethesda Game Studios (who makes the Elder Scrolls + Fallout games).
Yeah, I remember reading that too. I agree with the bolded.
Excellent post, but these two paragraphs in particular were great.
I know I have Fallout 1 + 2 at the top of my best RPG list of all time, I play them each year they are so good.
The bold is the big thing for me as to why I didn't really care for Fallout 3 as much as Fallout: NV (besides the writing and quests of course). Fallout 3 felt like a theme park, Fallout: NV felt like a society trying to pick up the pieces after a nuclear war.
As much as I would prefer an Obsidian Fallout (to the point I would preorder the collector's edition), we would've heard something by now if Fallout 4 has really been in production for awhile. I'm definitely getting Fallout 4, but i'm waiting for the GOTY/Ultimate edition and the modding community to grow some (I wonder if paid mods are being introduced.
I also don't see Obsidian letting the Metacritic thing prevent them from working with Bethesda again. Like someone mentioned early, Obsidian can't really afford to say no to any project even with the success of Pillars of Eternity. In fact, I'm pretty sure Obsidian is a bit bigger than Bethesda Game Studios (who makes the Elder Scrolls + Fallout games).
Yeah, I remember reading that too. I agree with the bolded.
Excellent post, but these two paragraphs in particular were great.
I know I have Fallout 1 + 2 at the top of my best RPG list of all time, I play them each year they are so good.
The bold is the big thing for me as to why I didn't really care for Fallout 3 as much as Fallout: NV (besides the writing and quests of course). Fallout 3 felt like a theme park, Fallout: NV felt like a society trying to pick up the pieces after a nuclear war.
Vincent Grayson
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I don't think I could disagree with that harder if I tried. If anything, Bethesda has gotten better and better at creating immersive worlds.
That said, I do prefer New Vegas, but largely because the writing was great. I preferred 3's story though.
block tower
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I'm confused as to why someone would be so oblivious as to how big a deal Fallout 4 is and still update their LinkedIn with the information that they worked on it . The game hasn't even been announced yet and this person puts it on their resume after signing a NDA lol.
Happens way more often than you think. Some are just kids out of school, others don't understand the game culture at all/that people will look for this. Some make the mistake of thinking it's already debuted or out etc. These people ultimately lose their jobs etc while the studios they work for usually don't get that work anymore. It's good for literally no one when these things hit the internet. /rant
block tower
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I'm sure it does happen a lot, it's just weird that people are so oblivious to their work or how the business is run. I'm pretty sure if I signed a NDA and worked in a company that deals with those types of contracts I'd probably try and be more aware of what it was I was working on lol.
Oh absolutely. Some people just don't get it or make an honest mistake that potentially ends their career. It's insane.
Dre_G_Writer
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block tower
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yea definitely. Well hopefully in this economy Bethesda is forgiving and doesn't make too big a deal out of this mistake. It's not like anyone is remotely shocked Fallout 4 is in development lol. So hopefully no one looses work or a job over this. Maybe Bethesda will drop the trailer earlier now since this leaked. Probably not though
Solid Samus
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Why does everyone assume Obsidian would never work with Bethesda again? It's not like every company that works alongside Bethesda or under the Zenimax banner is super thrilled to be there.
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