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Looking Into "Already Established Narratives" (Giant Image Warning)

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I am someone who believes that the mainstream media has shifted from reporting news to driving news.
I have often felt that journalism is a largely parasitical venture, relying on a host (such as real world events, or videogames) for it to exist in the first place.
From my time working in the games industry (I've been out over 10 years now) and seeing how things concerning my projects or employers were reported, it was apparent to me that journalism, at least in this area, was increasingly showing a desire to shape and influence events concerning its host entity. I witnessed speculation being reported as fact and outright falsehoods becoming entrenched as lore. But, hey, it's just videogames.

Here in Politics, things have a little more weight, but this series of graphs gives pause for thought. Not just the scale of growth, but the juncture at which growth began.

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Source: Original Tweet Thread / Unrolled Version

"Correlation is not causation" is a door that swings both ways, so I am compelled to think critically on this rather than go with reassuring confirmation bias.

Chicken and egg? Which comes first?
The increase in real world events followed by the reporting of them?
Or the increasing of reporting which then pervades and influences real world events.

The original tweet thread provides images of the individual graphs, should you wish to discuss one of them in particular.

What are your take-aways from this?
Does this information fall in line with your existing views, or run contrary to them?
 
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To be fair, many of these terms weren’t really known until the past decade.

But damn do I miss the 90s. Now I can only stand local news and only portions of it at best. Cable news is like watching a terrible repetitive soap opera.
 
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i do think online media has created a sort of virtual reality, where people think things defined by that media is the Real Truth. mainstream media has always been involved in developing a sort of mainstream consensus made of various narratives, which could be true or false, but are always selected for a reason. there are a number of counter narratives, for instance the anti-war movement, that get ignored entirely by the media, thus a lot of people think it actually doesn't exist.

the media doesn't create reality. it does profit off of that myth, however, and it is obsessed with it's own power. the desire to use journalism to shape world events stems from this myth. it's the same myth that thinks heavy metal records turns kids to suicide or that violent video games inevitably create mass shooters. it is a convenient myth meant to flatter the consumers of the "right" products. if anything the election of 2016 was a strong rebuttal of that myth. they have no power in the real world.
 
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Remember when the movie PCU was considered satire, skewering the batshit regressives with the "moral of the story" is that kids will grow out of it?

They just got louder and weaponized their participation trophies, bypassing merit all together, while inventing words to divide everyone even further.
 
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Here in Politics, things have a little more weight...
IT'S A MEDICAL CONDITION!

What are your take-aways from this?
Does this information fall in line with your existing views, or run contrary to them?
It's been obvious for some time that we don't have journalists anymore, we have activists. And not very good ones. Seriously, they are mean and aggressive. I'm of the opinion that the last way to convince me to join your cause is to treat me like shit and punch me in the nards. One day, I'm going to wake up with my cat, dead on the floor, and Wolf Blitzer standing over it with a knife, wearing nothing but a crazed look, and screaming, "Trump is popular with white supremacists".
 
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Some of those graphs can be easily explained by the fact that the language of Critical Race Theory and Intersectionality is a recent academic phenomenon. Yes has it roots farther back than those charts, but the big wave of it is only recently. I find the more common terms like "racism" and "diversity" to be more reliable proof of the hypothesis as those have existed in common usage for a long time.

On the chicken and egg scenario, it is more like reality vs. the airtime a certain narrative receive. They are often not related. For example, people may remember the "summer of the shark." The media went crazy reporting shark attacks and speculated all kinds of reasons why the frequency was on the rise, including global warming changing shark migratory patterns, lol. Once the dust had settled, it turned out shark attacks were actually down for that year. It happens every time a hurricane hits a major population center. All of the sudden, all subsequent tropical storms and hurricanes are given days of airtime and the media speculates on an increase in powerful storms. In reality, the statistics show that hurricanes are not rising in frequency, and in fact are falling. (What is changing is the economic value of damage as we build more and more houses and homes in hurricane areas. Same with California fires.) The reasons for the narrative are often for very human reasons: a pretty girl gets bitten by a shark, NYC gets hit by a hurricane, Hollywood is threatened by a wildfire, etc. The original story gets a lot of views because of those human reasons, and the media chases those views by hunting down similar stories to milk the ratings as long as possible.

In politics, it is a bit more nefarious. Journalism schools turn out progressives, and progressives find stories that confirm their worldview as interesting. Sometimes not even letting the facts get in the way. I was just reading a University of Penn study that shows that racist attitudes have fallen in the Trump era, in fact they have shown a steady decline since the start of the study in the first term of Obama's presidency. How does that compare with all the reporting of racial attitudes in the country. A Harvard statistical study done by a Black professor also showed there was no skin color bias in cops killing people as claimed by the media. In fact if you normalize for total police interactions, whites were more likely to be shot than other groups. As an aside, the study did find bias in physical confrontation. Yet, the media hunts down only one type of incident. In a nation of 350 million, you can always find an example that supports your premade conclusion.
 

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"If it bleeds, it leads" turned into "clickbait."

A meaningful story needs context about how common the event is. Anecdotal evidence is suspect. Stuff that you see reported is even further removed from that context, because it might have only happened once (If at all).

Something like 500 million people suffer from malaria, resulting in 3000 deaths per day. Yet, try asking the average person whether malaria kills more people than racist cops.
 
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The election of Barack Obama sure did a number on this country.

It feels shitty to say America would be a better place if we had never elected our first black President, but damn lol.

I'm not saying this is all directly Obama's fault mind you, just that the fact that we had a black President brought a lot of shit out of the woodwork, things that had been boiling under the surface of American culture for decades exploded into one big shitstorm.
 

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The election of Barack Obama sure did a number on this country.

It feels shitty to say America would be a better place if we had never elected our first black President, but damn lol.

I'm not saying this is all directly Obama's fault mind you, just that the fact that we had a black President brought a lot of shit out of the woodwork, things that had been boiling under the surface of American culture for decades exploded into one big shitstorm.
I firmly believe that it was an Obama the person problem, not an Obama the black man problem.
 
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That's because it is shitty to say. You don't solve problems by sweeping them under the rug and pretending they don't exist.
Oh no, don't get me wrong, maybe it was stuff that needed to come to the surface, it's true that you don't solve problems by ignoring them, but still, what a huge fucking bummer, you know? Even if it was a lie, I miss the America that I grew up where it was generally believed that racism was an issue that had mostly been solved and Obama's election seemed to be the final "proof" of that.

I do however take umbrage with some of the left's methods in trying to "solve" racism in American society and I also dislike the artificiality of how the media has handled it, bombarding us with the same propaganda obsessively as these charts prove, that sort of thing all does more harm than good for America's racial cohesion.
 
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Some more findings:

One of the primary motivations for our work at Our World in Data is to provide a fact-based overview of the world we live in — a perspective that includes the persistent and long-term changes that run as a backdrop to our daily lives.

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But is there evidence that such a disconnect exists between what we see in the news and what is reality for most us?
Some really interesting stuff - and juicy, interactive infographics - in the article.
 

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The graphs are hardly surprising- all alpha thinkers know this already.

Mainstream media is a tool of others. Only hard-of-thinking dumb dumbs believe in the fairytale about *independent* media barons and mad editors, as portrayed in American Comic Books like Spiderman and Superman.

Google "Common Purpose", Google "fabians", Google "darwinian socialism", Google "Tony Blair"

This project has been underway for a *very* long time, and is only now producing an astonishing crop of fruit.

In the UK in the 70s, Britain's leading pro-gay publication had a special section set aside for pedophiles (literally- this isn't a joke or lie). At the same time in the USA the leading pro-gay leaders marched together with the child-sex activists. Read Brave New World, or any of the fabian writings about sexulaity at the time, and you'll get an understanding of why.

Yet ordinary people have *always* been very tolerate of *discrete* homosexuals, and hated kiddie-fiddlers. The excuse that the sexually 'oppressed' needed to bond together at the time for 'power' reasons is an utter lie. Indeed Britain's official state supported pro-child-sex organisation, PIE, was allowed to continue untouched for decades, leading to astonishing levels of high level child abuse in children's homes. reform homes and schools across Britain. To this day, senior members of Britain's Labour party were advocates for child sex back in the 60s/70s and 80s, and protected actual pedophile rapists in the councils under their control in those decades.

However, the fabians had to ultimately give up on their plans to *normalise* sex with children. They failed to get the traction they needed in the USA, partly down to the child porn scares that arose when distributing offending material was becoming so much easier with improvements in tech.

The current set of alt-left agendas are down to vast projects of refinements in terms of social control messages. Thes graphs show what messages are currently seen as having maximal usefulness. Men vs women. 'black' vs 'white'. 'white male bad'. 'Humans are not a single race'. and so on and so forth.

Jordan Peterson, cos of his naiveity (he ain't exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer), is great to listen to on this subject. For he does the *bewildered* *everyman* perfectly. "Why would you do this" he keeps dribblings. "It just makes no sense.".

He is right *only* if you do not know what the fabian/alt-left agenda is really about. The Deep State never fears the intellect of anyone from canada.

These graphs are the graphs of *victory*- a level of perfected propaganda I know has never existed before. And they haven't even gotten properly started.

Your kids are 100% brainwashed by media and school (and then their friends). If you (try to) counter this, your kid more than likely carries the clear mark of a *dangerous* offspring of a now revealed political enemy of the people. Peeps with first hand experience of stalinism, or the rise of mao, will tell you what this means.

At worst the fabians wait to *grow us out*- watch the last with real memories of how it was die. But they hope to move faster than this. To have us enemies of our own kids if we resist, asian style (that's the trick they use in China, Korea, Vietnam, Thailand- tho not Japan yet).

Cleese the racist is a happy fabian- tho he thinks his british 70s brand of what fabian meant to him has faded away. The point being that when racism served the fabian agenda, as during Britain in the 60s/70s/80s, they ran with that. Even tho the top of the fabian tree thinks racists are morons, correctly.

So in different recent times, fabian projects got other concepts to peak in graphs, but never to this degree- not even close.

What is the mindshare of current fabian global warming propagnda, or anti-plastic? 95% maybe. Leading british fabian David attenborough only has to make another one of his low brow nature shows where plastic is killing some poor animal, and every dribbler in the world falls for the message, left right and centre.

"I'm proud to think Man is responsible for the climate change at the tale end of the last Ice-Age, duh" sez almost anyone you'll meet. You will not get thicker than that. Ding ding ding- we have a winner- screech all those at the fabian HQ.

Take your vaccine suckers- oh and don't worry about the arms and legs you lose to sepsis in British hospitals now we've banned the once universal preventative use of antibiotics immediately before many types of operation - you see we fabians know that un-needed vaccines are *good* for you, but those nasty antibiotics? Well we want to protect their effectiveness in farming and operations for people that matter, so screw you- you useless eater.

And ordinary chumps suck this up, demanding that the Deep state injects more and more junk into their kids while also demanding doctors and hospitals stop giving antibiotics to ordinary people. And *never* noticing the inherent logical contradiction.

PS modern big tech, with perfect real-time data mining, perfects the feedback loop that perfects the creation of even more effective propaganda. It is a nightmare that is going to get a lot lot worse in the near future.
 
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The increase in real world events followed by the reporting of them?
It's the reporting of them that has changed.

Fascinating stuff! I'm not familiar with LexisNexis, and he does mention how many sources could be potentially missing, however, this is shocking!

However I'm not surprised. The terminology is all very similar, a lexical set, if you will. And the terminology is all coming from one source, the media. And the journalists all came from universities where the overriding language skills and philosophies being taught are based on postmodernist theory. Also, the nature of what degree to choose for what field has tightened in recent years. Some evidence:

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=12004 (I'm aware this has been cancelled, but it is a headline example nonetheless)

With such a tight career path to follow it's no wonder the same words and ideas are being parroted everywhere.

However, I'm still learning about the theory of postmodern origins and effects in the present day, so there may be holes in my thought process here. But from what I can tell so far, its philosophy fails in the real world. Take for example the British Army poster that contradicts the personality, expectations, and demands of a typical soldier. The idea that language is power and violence is stupid and, if I'm correct in my understanding that this is a core concept of postmodernism, then postmodernist philosophy is what we are seeing in our societal values at large now.


(Seriously though, feel free to correct any misunderstandings in this post, if I'm just talking shit lol)
 
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Some more findings:







Some really interesting stuff - and juicy, interactive infographics - in the article.
It's not suprising that natural deaths don't generate as many headlines.
 

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I think his article is a good read.


Remarkably, white liberals were the only subgroup exhibiting a pro-outgroup bias—meaning white liberals were more favorable toward nonwhites and are the only group to show this preference for group other than their own. Indeed, on average, white liberals rated ethnic and racial minority groups 13 points (or half a standard deviation) warmer than whites. As is depicted in the graph below, this disparity in feelings of warmth toward ingroup vs. outgroup is even more pronounced among whites who consider themselves “very liberal” where it widens to just under 20 points. Notably, while white liberals have consistently evinced weaker pro-ingroup biases than conservatives across time, the emergence and growth of a pro-outgroup bias is actually a very recent, and unprecedented, phenomenon.
Simply fascinating.
 

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It's hard to take anything from those graphs without a bit more of information/method.
A major issue is that it's dealing with a raw publication count. It should be normalized on the total number of published articles on any topic. The sharp curve we're observing could very well be an increase in publications in general (especially if it takes into account blog posts, "contributors" or such). That could also be tested by displaying the curves for all kinds of topics, like "number of articles mentioning senate/peace/immigration/dogs/chair/environment/sex/...
 
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It's hard to take anything from those graphs without a bit more of information/method.
A major issue is that it's dealing with a raw publication count. It should be normalized on the total number of published articles on any topic. The sharp curve we're observing could very well be an increase in publications in general (especially if it takes into account blog posts, "contributors" or such). That could also be tested by displaying the curves for all kinds of topics, like "number of articles mentioning senate/peace/immigration/dogs/chair/environment/sex/...
I believe there have been more grapgs done using control phrases like "government".
 

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I am someone who believes that the mainstream media has shifted from reporting news to driving news.
I have often felt that journalism is a largely parasitical venture, relying on a host (such as real world events, or videogames) for it to exist in the first place.
From my time working in the games industry (I've been out over 10 years now) and seeing how things concerning my projects or employers were reported, it was apparent to me that journalism, at least in this area, was increasingly showing a desire to shape and influence events concerning its host entity. I witnessed speculation being reported as fact and outright falsehoods becoming entrenched as lore. But, hey, it's just videogames.

Here in Politics, things have a little more weight, but this series of graphs gives pause for thought. Not just the scale of growth, but the juncture at which growth began.


Source: Original Tweet Thread / Unrolled Version

"Correlation is not causation" is a door that swings both ways, so I am compelled to think critically on this rather than go with reassuring confirmation bias.

Chicken and egg? Which comes first?
The increase in real world events followed by the reporting of them?
Or the increasing of reporting which then pervades and influences real world events.

The original tweet thread provides images of the individual graphs, should you wish to discuss one of them in particular.

What are your take-aways from this?
Does this information fall in line with your existing views, or run contrary to them?

The best proof for this phenomenon (i.e the media inventing narratives to engineer social trends) was the 2016 election. It turns out the media machine was completely detached from reality, as the results went 180 degrees from the promoted direction.
 
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America has been in a bad way since 9/11, we are currently gripped in a type of hysteria that we hope will be the cure for what ails us, because we've been in what could be described as a collective nervous breakdown ever since September 11th 2001.

The connection may not be obvious at first, but 9/11 simply lead to a very fearful and paranoid world.
 

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Something clearly happened between 2010 and 2015 and clearly it could not have been people suddenly becoming racist.

Number of g searches increased in the same time period, but (mostly) not as drastically:




Is that only NYT though? I mean, NYT getting woke, would explain it.
But if it is all US media together, it's an effect of a totally different scale that need different explanations.

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from America's white saviors
 
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Something clearly happened between 2010 and 2015 and clearly it could not have been people suddenly becoming racist.

Number of g searches increased in the same time period, but (mostly) not as drastically:




Is that only NYT though? I mean, NYT getting woke, would explain it.
But if it is all US media together, it's an effect of a totally different scale that need different explanations.

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from America's white saviors
There were 3 events that put us on this path, the first was the Trayvon Martin shooting, the second was Zimmerman's acquittal and the third was the Michael Brown shooting, all happening in light of America's first black President and years of stuff like "Birthers" and the "Tea Party"

The ensuing backlash has torn this country apart, a country that was already not in the best of states.

It's surreal to even remember a time when not everything in American culture revolved around race, as recently as the prior decade, when the divisions were more Religious and political than racial.

But I feel an early preview of the 2010s came with how racialized the media's reaction to Hurricane Katrina was, as if black people were the only ones affected by the hurricane and the tension in the aftermath, as evidenced by Michael Richard's racist rant or "George W Bush does not care about black people"

It didn't last very long, but looking back you can see echos of the present day.
 
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The fact is, the more "victims" you create, the more support you will get. Democrats are having a field day with recruiting anyone who is not all of the above: straight, white, male. Then parade nonsense around, and if the white person doesn't say "that is the greatest thing I have ever seen," then Democrats go "SEE! YOU NEED US!"

One of the more recently added victim groups is fat girls. Put fat girls everywhere and tell the world they need to love it. If not, you are fat shamer.
 

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Remember when the movie PCU was considered satire, skewering the batshit regressives with the "moral of the story" is that kids will grow out of it?

They just got louder and weaponized their participation trophies, bypassing merit all together, while inventing words to divide everyone even further.
Its a great movie. And even better now. Its almost prophetic at this point.

Also, Jeremy Piven at his best.
 
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