lowrider007
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Downloading a 1.8 gig demo isn't really a hardship, why don't you decide for yourself before committing yourself to deciding 'that the port was so bad' without even playing it.
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Looks like Bioshock demo is out on PSN EU
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Downloading a 1.8 gig demo isn't really a hardship, why don't you decide for yourself before committing yourself to deciding 'that the port was so bad' without even playing it.
RpgN
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65536 said:
Huh? The demo let's you choose out of 4 difficulty level from the start. Are we playing the same demo here?
And I don't know how people are disappointed with the port. Granted, I haven't tried any other versions but I think it looks gorgeous, especially at the start.
Metalic Sand
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Seems the water is downgraded, Its the only thing i noticed. The lighting seems better but im on HDMI with the PS3.
ScrabbleBanshee
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Kind of hoping the demo is so bad that I can cancel my preorder and lighten my load a bit. :lol
I don't think you can actually select the two harder difficulties on PS3.RpgN said:
The framerate is really inconsistent, and absolutely terrible when compared to the 360 version.RpgN said:
The overall look of the game is the same, and it does indeed look very nice. It's brighter which will make some bits look better and others worse, but it seems it's not looking as good technically, with people reporting that the textures have been downgraded. (I'll wait for a proper comparison before making a judgement on that)
Lord Error
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I always wondered why don't people who mention this kind of thing don't callibrate PS3 video input on the TV a bit different than what they do with X360? I know some devs go to lengts to ensure the same exact gamma range though, so I guess in that case you'd get screwed and end up with too dark image on PS3. But still, you can dedicate one of the image adjustment modes for this. Most TVs have that Vivid/Normal/Movie/Custom setting where you can edit them all to your liking and then use with a touch of a button.65536 said:
The framerate are worse, no doubt, but inconsistent and absolutely terrible not sure. Assassin's Creed or GTA IV for example are worse. And the textures not everyone are downgraded, at the begin are the same. It's during the play someone are worse, but not all. And 360 porting too has some texture terrible don't forget it (in minor quantity but are there)65536 said:
lowrider007
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Well If I'm being honest if it wasn't for the frame-rate issues I think this would be an excellent port considering, being a port it was never going going to be exactly the same, hopefully they will have a v-sync option in the final version.
drakesfortune
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Damn, looks like it'll be the 360 version for me. Oh well, it'll save me $30 to buy it used somewhere. I'll still do my own comparison, but Gaf is usually right about this stuff.
Bioshock does use UE3 (it was originally based on the previous Unreal engine, but they ditched it during development). It's not some UE2.5 variant, though I suspect they implemented plenty of unique features to suit their needs. I'd imagine they DID NOT take advantage of the optimizations Epic made to the UE3 engine for PS3, however, as that would probably require more work than they would have liked for a port.fps fanatic said:
You can probably find games on PS3 that have worse framerates than Assassin's Creed and GTA IV as well, but it doesn't make their framerates good, only better. It was disappointing to see slowdown from the very beginning of the demo, and an inconsistent framerate throughout.okrim said:
I don't really see the point in the v-sync option on PS3 if it's struggling to hit 30fps.lowrider007 said:
It was an option on the 360 because it was pretty much locked to 30fps, and if you disabled v-sync it would run even better than thateven approaching 60fps in places.
If you have the option of playing it on a good PC or 360 and have been waiting to see how this turned outdefinitely get it for one of them. (why didn't you have it already‽
If you only have a PS3, it's probably not bad enough to avoid the game, but it would be a big annoyance for me if I had to play through it like that.
You'd figure Sony would at least help out a bit seeing as how much they pimped this fucking game on their blog and whatnot. You think getting a port of a game really late, with it being graphically inferior, will give you street creds?
At the very least make it on par with the original version.
At the very least make it on par with the original version.
RpgN
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Elios83 said:The game is really good, it's like the PC version in high settings, I really don't know what a few people were expecting
Well I can't compare it with past versions, but it's indeed pretty. Aaand I'm loving the game so far
itxaka said:
Same here. I especially liked the scene where a little sister was killed and I was trapped. I wanted to help her, but I couldn't
And story is really interesting. Some monsters I just don't want to kill, because I heard them talking...Yet they keep on attacking! The full game will be full with these moments, right?65536 said:
Well, I didn't try all 4 of them out. But they were there? So, you can see them put not select them in the demo version?
65536 said:
I see. I'm not technical person...But I know when a game is very pretty and do enjoy that
Maybe it was the overal atmosphere that impressed me about the demo?Do you have any information on this? It has always been a source of confusion. I know they were originally building the game around a variant of the engine used in Tribes Vengeance and switched during development. I had thought it was built around UE3, but perhaps they are using some strange hybrid. It certainly did feel a bit different from your average UE3 title (it was also one of the few not to employ data streaming between levels).Jim said:
Revolutionary
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Jesus @ the nitpicking.
Anyway, I played through the game on the PC last year in DX10 and I thought it looked great on the PS3, considering the PS3's hardware. There was one moment of slowdown that I noticed, but it wasn't that serious at all (just below 30), and lasted for perhaps two seconds. If this is commonplace in the retail game - who gives a shit. It's not detrimental to the gameplay at all.
Anyone that missed this game on the PC or 360 will do fine with this port.
I'll be picking it up later this year, too many other games to purchase first lol
Anyway, I played through the game on the PC last year in DX10 and I thought it looked great on the PS3, considering the PS3's hardware. There was one moment of slowdown that I noticed, but it wasn't that serious at all (just below 30), and lasted for perhaps two seconds. If this is commonplace in the retail game - who gives a shit. It's not detrimental to the gameplay at all.
Anyone that missed this game on the PC or 360 will do fine with this port.
I'll be picking it up later this year, too many other games to purchase first lol
It's definitely a case where, if you haven't seen the game running on 360 (or PC I suppose) you probably won't notice/care.RpgN said:I see. I'm not technical person...But I know when a game is very pretty and do enjoy that
It looked fine to me aside from the framerate, but I did just run through it quickly to see where the demo finished, as someone had made it sound like it was a bigger demo than the 360 one. (and it was plausible given that it's 500mb larger)
When I played through it on the 360 for the first time, I went through it really slowly, taking in all the little detailssome of that may have been lost in the translation, but the overall world is the same, and that's what was so good about the game.
Lord Error
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I think the whole shiny look the engine is great at, was suited well for the art direction in this game. Perhaps better than anywhere else actually.Forsete said:
It's an important game though, and it's actually surprising it was even ported this late after the original release.BeeDog said:
Also, keep in mind that when 65536 talks about framerate, you're listening to a guy who can't stand 24FPS frame judder when playing movies on TVs with 60Hz refresh. That's how anal he is about that kind of thing.
Looks like someone has been playing around with that image and it was initially supposed to be quite dark. (so you wouldn't see the lower resolution texture)okrim said:
Just look at how bright the HUD is there.
EDIT: Wait that looks like the section in the demo right from when you come up the stairs.
That has been manipulated to ridiculous levels. :lol
It doesn't even look like the 360 version to me actually. (aspect ratio, HUD size in relation to the screen)
UntoldDreams
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Hmmm... I will have to try it and see for myself.
However, the winner/loser here is not PS3 versus 360 (Give it a rest guys its a year old port)...
The money battle here will be between DeadSpace and Bioshock which are competing for money in the span of the same WEEK.
If the port is notably "not there" for Bioshock I see more sales for Deadspace.
However, the winner/loser here is not PS3 versus 360 (Give it a rest guys its a year old port)...
The money battle here will be between DeadSpace and Bioshock which are competing for money in the span of the same WEEK.
If the port is notably "not there" for Bioshock I see more sales for Deadspace.
InterMoniker
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Lol @ at the control scheme.PuppetMaster said:
What exactly is wrong with that?! I mean, the game is over 1 year old at this point. Comparison to other versions is precisely what this thread should be revolving around.g35twinturbo said:
For those that have played it, the game has already been discussed in other threads. For those new to Bioshock, well, this is only the demo and there isn't much to talk about nor can I imagine any of those people wanting to read spoilerific discussions based on the full game.
What else could you talk about? Many people will want to know if this port is actually decent and comparisons are the most effective way to do this.
InterMoniker
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Broken English ftl.okrim said:
I've just loaded up the 360 demo there and it is the area I was thinking of.okrim said:
1: No changes that you make can end up with the HUD looking as blown out as it does in that picture. (either a manipulated image, an over-exposed photo or both)
2: That area is supposed to be dark, lit only by some flames in the corner of the room.
3: People were saying that the textures on the PS3 version were downgraded over the 360 one, not that the 360 had amazing textures to begin with.
4: Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.
Paracelsus
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Help to develop a year old port which has lost all meaning, sales-wise?
Hmm, not a smart decision, if you ask me.
One thing is "a blog", boasting to the media about how awesome the port will be, about graphics on par if not better, is another.
If there's someone who deserves the finger of blame pointed at, is 2K.
slicedking
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I noticed artifacts on some textures. That's about it.
How many languages can you speak?InterMoniker said:
BoilersFan23
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The demo MIGHT be old since the majority of demos SCE and other publishers put out were builds dating back to around E3 (since that's when a demo was prepared). Some things like framerate get fixed in the full version (like the LBP beta was even dated). That's why I'll say to wait for retail impressions.BeeDog said:
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