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LTTP: Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow

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Psycho Penguin

Banned
Alright, after realizing you don't need to draw the magic seals perfectly, I am having a lot of fun with this one, even if Puppet master took me 35 tries or so to seal.

I am completely stuck right now in Subterranean Hell though. There's a room to the left with spikes I cannot progress through, and that's about all the exits that are left.

I'm thinking I have to go back to another area and use that Puppet Master soul on another part, but I did search before and didn't find anything. Oh well.

Great GREAT game so far, can't belie ve I ignored it all this time. I've owned it since January! Still got PoR to go through, too.
 
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Cranehand2ndComing

Member
If I remember correctly, there's an option in the menu to practice drawing the seals before you have to use them after the boss fights.

Amazing game, though; enjoy.
 
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Oldschoolgamer

The physical form of blasphemy
I don't remember much, but, check the map again. There was probably something minor you missed.

Great game! Be sure to play the extras before you go onto PoR.
 
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Psycho Penguin

Banned
Yeah I practiced that seal and always got booted out before the first line was complete XD.. like I said, I know now that SPEED is more important so I should be fine.

OSG, what extras are in this one? I'm assuming a different character and boss rush?
 
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Oldschoolgamer

The physical form of blasphemy
Psycho Penguin said:
Yeah I practiced that seal and always got booted out before the first line was complete XD.. like I said, I know now that SPEED is more important so I should be fine.

OSG, what extras are in this one? I'm assuming a different character and boss rush?
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I won't spoil it, but a mode that plays like oldschool cv games. Can't remember what else.
 
blu

blu

Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Psycho Penguin said:
I am completely stuck right now in Subterranean Hell though. There's a room to the left with spikes I cannot progress through, and that's about all the exits that are left.
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could it be the room where there are small unspiked isles on the floor but they're too far apart? if so, then you need
to doll-throw yourself, using the thow-boos ability, iirc
 
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BlazeHedgehog

Member
I was surprised at how hard this game was. Not used to my RPG/Action-Adventure Castlevanias having tough bosses after breezing through most of the GBA games. Also surprised at how... I dunno, macabre this was. Monsters and especially bosses felt a lot... darker than past Castlevanias.

Overall, one of my favorite Castlevania games.
 
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Psycho Penguin

Banned
blu said:
could it be the room where there are small unspiked isles on the floor but they're too far apart? if so, then you need
to doll-throw yourself, using the thow-boos ability, iirc
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There's a large row of spikes I have to almost die jumping across, then a small gap with a wall next to it, followed by more spikes. The dolls die on the spikes when I throw them.
 
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Mechar

Neo Member
Congratulations man! This game is by far, the best handheld Castlevania game and the best DS game. Hopefully you´ll have some time to play Portrait of Ruin wich is also good, but not as good as DoS. You´ll proably finish the game in good time before Order of Ecclesia arrives on October 22nd.
 
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Oldschoolgamer

The physical form of blasphemy
Psycho Penguin said:
There's a large row of spikes I have to almost die jumping across, then a small gap with a wall next to it, followed by more spikes. The dolls die on the spikes when I throw them.
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Sounds like you are missing a soul then. I think you might need to use
the bat soul
to get past whatever it is.
 
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Psycho Penguin

Banned
Thanks for the praise guys, glad to see I picked a GOOD game to play for a change.. heh.

How would everyone rank the Metroidvania games?

OSG: Time to go find it then. Thanks for the help! :)
 
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Brak

Member
Psycho Penguin said:
Thanks for the praise guys, glad to see I picked a GOOD game to play for a change.. heh.

How would everyone rank the Metroidvania games?

OSG: Time to go find it then. Thanks for the help! :)
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I enjoyed Dawn of Sorrow a lot and then I unlocked Julius Mode which made me adore it.

In terms of ranking Metroidvanias:

Metroid: Zero Mission
CV: Dawn of Sorrow
Metroid Fusion
CV: Aria of Sorrow
CV: Portrait of Ruin
CV: Harmony of Dissonance

(Strangely I haven't played Super Metroid or Symphony of the Night)
 
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cartman414

Member
If by Metroidvanias you're strictly referring to Castlevanias:

Dawn of Sorrow
Aria of Sorrow
Symphony of the Night
Portrait of Ruin
Circle of the Moon
Harmony of Dissonance

The first two are a dead heat, actually. There's a fair gap between the lower and upper half.

Here's hoping Order of Ecclesia ranks with the best of them.
 
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Creamium

shut uuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
yes Julius mode is completely awesome in this game. Enjoyed it more than the main campaign. Aria was a bit better than this, and still stands as the best metroidvania
 
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lyre

Member
Dunno if it's answered yet but there are two solutions to this puzzle if I'm thinking of the one you're stuck in:

1.
Puppet Master soul + Skeleton Ape (big skeleton that throws barrels) = long ranged teleporting
2.
The soul that you get from two skeletons carrying the giant dragon head that fires a ball of energy. The soul carries Soma across just about anything as long as there's ground and MP to consume

And beat the regular game asap; the true reason to play the game takes place after you unlock it.
 
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Mejilan

Running off of Custom Firmware
This game's J-Mode is BY FAR the best post-game addition to a CV yet. It's completely unrivaled, and unlike most post-game modes in Castlevania games, basically stands up as its own game, in my eyes.
 
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Nemo

Will Eat Your Children
Yeah, Skeleton Ape is the answer.

You know about the Katana and the five hit trick yet? I absolutely loved the game after this. Think I replayed it about six times. PoR was good too but didn't like the concept so much.
 
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Gig

One man's junk is another man's treasure
Mejilan said:
This game's J-Mode is BY FAR the best post-game addition to a CV yet. It's completely unrivaled, and unlike most post-game modes in Castlevania games, basically stands up as its own game, in my eyes.
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You lost the badass back-dash from Aria of Sorrow. :/

Oh, and NUNCHUCKS!!!
 
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ghibli99

Member
Glad you're enjoying the game, man!

AlexM said:
lol dubble wut?
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Way to be a jerk. He just said that he has a condition that makes his hands shake (could be tremors, etc.), and you laugh at him.
 
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Psycho Penguin

Banned
Thanks for the help on the spikes thing. I'm assuming it leads to an unneeded secret and not the path to the next area, because I really hate when random enemies drop souls that you need to progress. like.. how am I supposed to know?
 
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Gig

One man's junk is another man's treasure
Mejilan said:
What does this have to do with my post?
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Like I said, in the Aria's secondary mode/game you had the cool vanishing backdash and then it wasn't their in Sorrow.

And they totally nerfed the Red Minotaur soul.
 
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lyre

Member
Psycho Penguin said:
Thanks for the help on the spikes thing. I'm assuming it leads to an unneeded secret and not the path to the next area, because I really hate when random enemies drop souls that you need to progress. like.. how am I supposed to know?
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Good thing you're playing DoS and not Aria, cause the latter requires enemy soul drops to get the non-fake (but very awesome) ending.

Cheers
 
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lyre

Member
Dawn of Sorrow gives you what you need to get the non-fake ending in a cutscene, tho you have put two and two together to know how to get to it. No grinding whatsoever.
 
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Mejilan

Running off of Custom Firmware
Gig said:
Like I said, in the Aria's secondary mode/game you had the cool vanishing backdash and then it wasn't their in Sorrow.

And they totally nerfed the Red Minotaur soul.
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Ahh. A VERY small price to pay. In just about every sense, J-Mode got upgraded from a stupid side-mode to a full blown alternate quest!
 
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Oldschoolgamer

The physical form of blasphemy
lyre said:
Dawn of Sorrow gives you what you need to get the non-fake ending in a cutscene, tho you have put two and two together to know how to get to it. No grinding whatsoever.
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Yep. You'll even know when you have finished everything, because the path to the end won't budge unless you meet the requirements.
 
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cartman414

Member
Gig said:
Like I said, in the Aria's secondary mode/game you had the cool vanishing backdash and then it wasn't their in Sorrow.

And they totally nerfed the Red Minotaur soul.
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For good reason. There were a few really broken souls/weapons in Aria.

Getting the souls for the good ending in Aria wasn't really hard.
 
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Hive

Banned
Psycho Penguin said:
Alright, found out where I needed to go :D There was an area I could use the Puppet Master soul in the Dark Chapel.

Condemned Tower time.
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ohh buddy! ^o^

Is there anything better than J-mode in CV?? I mean, it made me go back and relive CVIII and CVIV. Such a great homage to the CV of old~
 
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cartman414

Member
Hive said:
ohh buddy! ^o^

Is there anything better than J-mode in CV?? I mean, it made me go back and relive CVIII and CVIV. Such a great homage to the CV of old~
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CV4? Didn't spot any features from there.

Only thing missing was a Grant type character.
 
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Psycho Penguin

Banned
Julius Mode sounds awesome.

I started Kirby Squeak Squad earlier but I don't want to be banned for making too many topics :lol

Back to DoS now! I want to unlock this Julius Mode!
 
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jax (old)

Banned
I replayed all the DS CVs recently. So fucking awesome. :) I actually went to jbhifi (aussie retailer) and they had POR. I was quite impressed.. a some "niche" title still on retail shelves this long after launch. GOod stuff.
 
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Psycho Penguin

Banned
Jax said:
I replayed all the DS CVs recently. So fucking awesome. :) I actually went to jbhifi (aussie retailer) and they had POR. I was quite impressed.. a some "niche" title still on retail shelves this long after launch. GOod stuff.
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I actually found PoR for 19.99 USD brand new earlier this year at a tiny game store here. I was pretty hyped. :D

I still haven't opened it.
 
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Yaweee

Member
I loved this game so much. The meaningful alternate mode really gave the Metroidvania series the longevity it needed-- a trend that continued in Portrait of Ruin with its crapton of extra modes.

While people say Julius mode is where it's at, I think it gets a lot of credit for just being fundamentally different than the main game, not because it is all-out better. Both are very satisfying adventures.
 
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