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LTTP: Mario Odyssey is the worst 3D Mario
- Thread starter GigaBowser
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kubricks
Member
Mario Odyssey may not have the tight challenges or well thought out scenario you get from previous games, but Mario's control in this game was some of the best and the overall presentation was excellent. The New Donk City festival, in combination with the "Jump up , Super Star!" song, was masterfully done.
Because people appreciate it's strength.
John Wick
Member
No it's not!I just finished this. I wanted to like Mario Odyssey, I really did guys, but I have to admit it,
it's the worst 3D Mario game.
Yes, even the bastard child of 3D Mario Sunshine is ultimately a better game.
Let's examine the reasons why.
- The moons are dumb. Way too many of them and way too easy to collect, quality over quantity
- The boss battles are piss easy
- The kingdoms are too small
- the ending is bad, Peach doesn't seem appreciative at all, didn't respect my time
- the game is just not very fun. You really expect that it would be but nope.
Yes, the water effects are some of the best in the series, but that's just not enough to stand above Mario Sunshine to me.
How is this one of the best rated games ever?
I paid full price for this and I just wanted to chuck my control on the ground.
You're driving me crazy Nintendo
Mario Sunshine is a worse game
IbizaPocholo
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TheDreadBaron
Gold Member
Giga Bowser, I whooped your ass in that smash melee bonus challenge even though your moves were cheap as shit, you want a repeat performance?
Ikutachi
Member
3D Land is tailored for single player in its level design. 3D World is expansive with multiplayer in mind which waters down the single player experience.
Holammer
Member
I tried the game very briefly via emulation and I disagree on principle, it's a well crafted game and sound mechanically like every other Mario game, even Sunshine.
It seems OP got something similar to the blues the older Pokemon fandom experiences now, where they want complex narratives and themes in the setting, it emasculates them as grownups to play a game that refuses to grow with the audience and remains laser focused on the 7-12 age group.
Just accept that Mario is all about being enjoyable by everyone, offering minimal friction and bosses are simple "do the thing three times" affairs.
It seems OP got something similar to the blues the older Pokemon fandom experiences now, where they want complex narratives and themes in the setting, it emasculates them as grownups to play a game that refuses to grow with the audience and remains laser focused on the 7-12 age group.
Just accept that Mario is all about being enjoyable by everyone, offering minimal friction and bosses are simple "do the thing three times" affairs.
sigmaZ
Member
I enjoyed it, but it felt more akin to running through a funhouse or something. And I totally agree about the moons. I much prefer the classic stars like in Mario 64 with them being tied to more interesting challenges.I just finished this. I wanted to like Mario Odyssey, I really did guys, but I have to admit it,
it's the worst 3D Mario game.
Yes, even the bastard child of 3D Mario Sunshine is ultimately a better game.
Let's examine the reasons why.
- The moons are dumb. Way too many of them and way too easy to collect, quality over quantity
- The boss battles are piss easy
- The kingdoms are too small
- the ending is bad, Peach doesn't seem appreciative at all, didn't respect my time
- the game is just not very fun. You really expect that it would be but nope.
Yes, the water effects are some of the best in the series, but that's just not enough to stand above Mario Sunshine to me.
How is this one of the best rated games ever?
I paid full price for this and I just wanted to chuck my control on the ground.
You're driving me crazy Nintendo
Kokoloko85
Member
Nah, Galaxy 1 and 2 easily are the worst in my opinion. Was different to Mario 64 and Sunshine which I prefer. Galaxy 1 & 2 were not sequels to 64 and Sunshine, felt like completely different games.
I forced myself to finished Galaxy 1 beause everyone kept saying its amazing, just finish it. But after playing a few hours in Galaxy 2, I just couldnt do it anymore. Wagglin the wii remote and constantly upside down mario gravity levels and rocketing mario to another small mini planet was a drain on me. and platforming upside is just not fun
All the levels felt the same, looked the same and were too small for me. All i remember was rocketing to planet after planet after planet by shaking my wii mote and have to collect crap off the screen by aiming my controller…. No thanks. Lol if you think thats a sequel to Mario 64 or Sunshine. Its not.
I forced myself to finished Galaxy 1 beause everyone kept saying its amazing, just finish it. But after playing a few hours in Galaxy 2, I just couldnt do it anymore. Wagglin the wii remote and constantly upside down mario gravity levels and rocketing mario to another small mini planet was a drain on me. and platforming upside is just not fun
All the levels felt the same, looked the same and were too small for me. All i remember was rocketing to planet after planet after planet by shaking my wii mote and have to collect crap off the screen by aiming my controller…. No thanks. Lol if you think thats a sequel to Mario 64 or Sunshine. Its not.
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Calling 911 Melts Beams
Banned
waluigi's taco stand is the best 3d mario game btw
Paperclip Killa
Banned
3D? Mario 64. Then Sunshine.
The others are playable, though 3D Mario generally suffers from the same issues across games. Odyssey was the first attempt to modernize, so maybe the sequel will finally get it right.
The others are playable, though 3D Mario generally suffers from the same issues across games. Odyssey was the first attempt to modernize, so maybe the sequel will finally get it right.
Dr.brain64
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PianistaMacabro
Member
Even sunshine is better
Puscifer
Gold Member
I mean Galaxy much less Galaxy 2 are two of the best Mario and Overall Games of all time, they'll always be compared.
amigastar
Member
Mario was never good.
Puscifer
Gold Member
Did they plant the guy from Killzone into Horizon?
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
fuck 3D world and everyone that liked that shit
apple_of_enlightenment
Member
Everyone's favourite is the one they played first (generally)
Thaedolus
Gold Member
Fuck you too, 3D World/Land are easily the best Mario games to come out in the last 10 years.
Odyssey is fine. I agree with all the criticisms about how many moons there are and the level design being unfocused, but it’s still a top notch Nintendo game. I just never felt much sense of progression compared to previous titles. Galaxy 1 and 2 remain GOAT
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
no fuck you XD
legit this game triggers me after all these years showing me how shit my wii u truly was.
Thaedolus
Gold Member
Nah. SMB was great but a horny blonde and strip SMB3 was A+++ in college
Josemayuste
Member
apple_of_enlightenment
Member
I was thinking 3d Marios. But maybe: everyone's favourites are the ones they played in their um, playful years
Doom85
Member
TheDreadLord
Gold Member
Game journalists love cute things so that they can spend the whole review talking about that instead of what matters… this is the recipe to score well.