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LTTP: Mega Man 2, or How Air Man Twisted Neiteio's Tits and Taught Him Love

Neiteio

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This is a halfway-through-the-game LTTP, since I don't want to continue cluttering the Smash Bros. thread with my constant why-can't-Samus-crawl inquiries of "HOW I DO DAT." I think I'm in deep enough to have a sense of this game's appeal.

Yes, I can see why Mega Man 2 is a CLASSIC. It's my first foray into the series. I picked it up for $5 on the 3DS eShop, because Mega Man looks so scrum-diddly-umptious in Smash, and because I recently finished another punishing portable platformer, DKCR3D (which I also played on Wii -- amazing game, highly recommended).

Back to MM2... From afar, I thought it would've been one of those NES games that controlled all stiff and clunky-like, better in people's memories than a newcomer would find it in the here and now... But I'm happy to say it's quite the contrary -- this game is EXCELLENT, just constant rewarding action/reaction.

Like the NES Mario games, MM has a remarkable amount of air control when he jumps: You can make corrections mid-air, leaping farther or stopping yourself short... sailing over obstacles, or reigning yourself in before you hit a spiked ceiling. But unlike Mario, MM has built-in PEW-PEW -- it's a lot of fun peppering enemies, many of which are small targets to hit and come at you rather relentlessly (I.E. the mini-frogs spat out by the bigger frogs in Bubble Man's stage).

Speaking of stages, right from the get-go, you're given a menu with all of the bosses. You choose which one you want to attempt, and can tackle them in any order. The stages are very approachable in length; I can see someone knocking out the whole game in one fell swoop if they're up to it. Excellent platforming and twitch-action shoot-outs with all sorts of enemies, some neat gimmicks like falling platforms, conveyor belts and underwater, and moving obstacles like arcing fire breath from badass blue robo-dogs (inexplicably in Woodman's stage -- WHAT UP WIT DAT).

Metal Man, Bubble Man, Flash Man, Wood Man... I started out in that order. The game is immediately enjoyable, quick and snappy to control, with infectious music and solid, colorful sprites. But Air Man is where the game's appeal truly *clicked* for me. I was atop a Thwomp-ish-looking thing, waiting for its horns to lower so I could hop to the next one; I was hopping up and down, pivoting mid-air, shooting down the drones it sent after me, MM striking a "HEY-OOO!" pose as he pew-pew'd with wild abandon. When I'd land, I'd do a quick little shuffle in rhythm with the music, like an 8-bit Patrick Swayze. SO FUN.

And that's where I'm at now. Not done with the game yet, but halfway through. Maybe I'll hate it next level... I doubt it, though. I'm just amused at how strong the appeal is. I usually find NES-era games to be a bit... inaccessible, as someone who started gaming with the late SNES titles and really cut his gamer teeth on the N64. But here I am, loving MM2 on 3DS. For $5, it's a worthwhile experiment I'd recommend for others who, like me, didn't grow up with MM. And apparently, most of his moves in Smash reference this game, so it's a great learning experience, too!

And oh, DAT TITLE SCREEN. Soooooo COOL!

11/10 tits
 

SkyOdin

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I had meant to post this in response to you in the Brawl thread, but the internet ate it and it is more relevent here, so here it is:

I didn't grow up with Mega Man, but I'm keenly interested to try the series thanks to his Smash inclusion. What games would help me best appreciate his Smash presence?

Good starting games include:

Mega Man 2-4
These are good for getting a good feel for the classic series. The rest are all pretty solid games in their own right.

Mega Man X 1, 2, and 4
3 is slightly harder and rougher in my opinion, 5 and 6 have issues, 7 has serious issues, and 8 is just hard. I still love the whole series (except 7, don't play it).

The Mega Man Zero series has the best gameplay the franchise has to offer, but is more demanding and complicated than the other series. It is also more story focused, so playing the four games in order is actually important, a rarity in the franchise.

The ZX games are a bit easier to get into than the Zero games, but are still pretty different than the Classic games and have some pacing issues. Both are still great games.

Mega Man Battle Network 2 and 3
The Battle Network series is awesome. 2 and 3 are the really great ones from the series, with a sudden drop in quality with 4. 6 is pretty good, but wraps up the whole series, so it isn't really a good starting point.

Mega Man Star Force 1
Star Force 1 is as good as, if not better than Battle Network 2 and 3. 2 is a bit of drop off, but 3 is great for gameplay. This series has a bit more of ongoing plot stuff between games, but not too much.

Mega Man Legends 1 and 2.
Both are great games. Start with 1.

Starting with Classic Megaman and X are probably best, but don't overlook the Zero or Battle Network series. They represent an important era for the franchise and offer some of the franchise's best games.

EDIT: Mega Man 2 is pretty fun, even if it isn't my favorite classic Mega Man game. I actually have 2 on my iPhone. It isn't a good port, since Mega Man really needs buttons, but is still pretty fun. Brace yourself for Quick Man's stage.
 

ScraftyDevil

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Yeah, Battle Network 3 & 6 are two of the finest GBA games out there, and SF3 lived in my DS in the summer of '10 while I dominated everyone in online battles >:)

Zero 3 is probably my favourite Megaman game overall though. When that game first came out, I had it down to a science (I could speedrun it in less than 2 hours) and beat it more than 50 times. ZX Advent is also worth checking out due to the awesomely cheesy voice acting and really sweet gimmick (let's just say it takes the whole "acquire new powers from bosses" theme to a whole new level).
 

OmegaZero

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The Mega Man Zero series has the best gameplay the franchise has to offer, but is more demanding and complicated than the other series. It is also more story focused, so playing the four games in order is actually important, a rarity in the franchise.

Just wanted to agree with this.
The first two games are pretty punishing, but it's a good kind of pain.

The Megaman Zero Collection for the DS is a nice way to get all of the games in one package.
 

Neiteio

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Just beat Air Man and Santa Claus gave me Item-2. :O

So I've done Metal Man, Bubble Man, Flash Man, Wood Man, and Air Man... Who should I fight next?
 

Neiteio

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GOOD LUCK.

Quick Man becomes Dick Man if you don't have Crash Bombs yet. You need to be vigilant and alert!
I Game Over'd at the first death-laser in Quick Man's stage, so I'm going after Crash Man now. And WOW, I always wondered where those hard hat enemies came from -- I see them in avatars here every now and then. :O
 

Thequietone

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SPOILER: Your body is not ready.
I hate that part. If it wasn't for that I would be able to do a no death run, but no I must be happy with a 1 death run. Seriously is there a way to do that room without dying?


Anyways, I actually started playing this game on the WiiU today when I saw you posting about it in the Smash thread. Found myself pretty rusty since I have been playing Megaman X recently and the controls are different and threw me off. MM2 is still my favorite of the NES Megaman titles.
 

Neiteio

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Wow, I've been mainly sticking to pew-pew (and Metal Blade when I don't want to take chances with a boss), but Air Man's weapon is really handy in Crash Man's stage on the parts where a platform is on a circuit and there's lots of those box-like enemies floating around.
 

Kazerei

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I bought the PS1 Import version of Mega Man 2 from PSN on impulse. I just saw it and got this intense craving to play it. I guess the English version wasn't available at the time, or I didn't see it. Anyways, being able to scratch that Mega Man itch felt sooo good. Mmmmyeah.
 

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Mega Man 2 is a great game to get into Mega Man with. NES Mega Man games have great, tight controls. Enjoy yourself!

Good starting games include:

Mega Man 2-4
These are good for getting a good feel for the classic series. The rest are all pretty solid games in their own right.

Mega Man X 1, 2, and 4
3 is slightly harder and rougher in my opinion, 5 and 6 have issues, 7 has serious issues, and 8 is just hard. I still love the whole series (except 7, don't play it).

The Mega Man Zero series has the best gameplay the franchise has to offer, but is more demanding and complicated than the other series. It is also more story focused, so playing the four games in order is actually important, a rarity in the franchise.

The ZX games are a bit easier to get into than the Zero games, but are still pretty different than the Classic games and have some pacing issues. Both are still great games.

Mega Man Battle Network 2 and 3
The Battle Network series is awesome. 2 and 3 are the really great ones from the series, with a sudden drop in quality with 4. 6 is pretty good, but wraps up the whole series, so it isn't really a good starting point.

Mega Man Star Force 1
Star Force 1 is as good as, if not better than Battle Network 2 and 3. 2 is a bit of drop off, but 3 is great for gameplay. This series has a bit more of ongoing plot stuff between games, but not too much.

Mega Man Legends 1 and 2.
Both are great games. Start with 1.

Starting with Classic Megaman and X are probably best, but don't overlook the Zero or Battle Network series. They represent an important era for the franchise and offer some of the franchise's best games.

EDIT: Mega Man 2 is pretty fun, even if it isn't my favorite classic Mega Man game. I actually have 2 on my iPhone. It isn't a good port, since Mega Man really needs buttons, but is still pretty fun. Brace yourself for Quick Man's stage.

Very helpful post for anyone else interested in playing Mega Man. I don't agree with all of it (Mega Man X8 isn't that hard...) but well reasoned.
 

graywords

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I guess it's an appropriate time for this:

 

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I just beat Air Man. You have to shoot him in his fan.

You could say that when it comes to pew-pew...

*puts on shades*

...he's not a fan

*Miami skyline* "Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaah!"

His weakness was leafsheild kills him really fucking fast.

honestly if you havent killed metal man yet kill him and use his weapon 24/7
 

VandalD

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Wait... I just belatedly realized what you're saying: I can use the Flash to pause the lasers at points. :O
This kind of realization and usefulness of the weapons is what holds Mega Man 2 to be the best in the series, at least IMO, though it has its drawbacks later on.
 

Neiteio

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Just curious how old you are OP that you missed out on Megaman 2 growing up. Man I must be getting old.

2 is my favorite but play 3 next.
Mid-20s-ish, but I didn't have a videogame console until 1996 when I got my SNES with Super Mario All-Stars + World and DKC3. :)

Using the leaf shield on ladders is a god send.
Yes, excellent deterrent against the egg-dropping birds on the ladders in Crash Man's stage. :)
 

LiveFromKyoto

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Playing through 1-4 again right now on Wii U VC. I've always liked the first one a lot, it feels so retro 80s. But 2 has to be the best overall. I'll never get the preference for 3, 2's music crushes it. And so many timeless scenes, like the disappearing blocks in Heat Man, or the killer tube things in Quick Man. And is any MM weapon better than Metal Man? Just a perfect game all around. 3 & 4 are good, but kinda not as fun by comparison imo.
 

Neiteio

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I'm trying to save my Flash for Quick Man, and thus trying to navigate the death tubes in real-time, without getting hit by lasers. Damn, it's tricky, lol.
 

MGrant

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This kind of realization and usefulness of the weapons is what holds Mega Man 2 to be the best in the series, at least IMO, though it has its drawbacks later on.

This is why I hold Megaman 9 to be my second favorite of the entire series, behind 2. All of the weapons are so useful, and make finding new paths through levels a joy.

Also, get ready for Wily 1. It is probably the best level ever made for an NES game.
 

Velcro Fly

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MM3 has an infinitely easier castle than MM2. I always found MM2's castle to be unforgiving as hell. MM3's castle is probably the easiest part of the game. Only part I ever had trouble with in MM3 is the touch damage that some of the Doc robots do.
 

Neiteio

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Quick Man's level is still killing me. I just realized something obvious, though: Bubble Man's weapon kills the torch enemies in one hit!

Well, I'm going to save for tonight. I'm on 3DS, so I can use save states, but I'll mark my password while I'm at it:

A1
C1
D1
D3
E3
C4
C5
D5
E5

PB
A
_W
MF
C_
23
 

XiaNaphryz

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