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LTTP: Super Mario Sunshine
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Naibel
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I remember having bought the game during Christmas 2002, but being so disgusted by that filthy brown goop being thrown everywhere that I never got pass the first mission ! I was pretty young back then. 
Three years later, I mustered up some courage and gave it another shot.
And well... it was pretty good. Not awesome, not masterpiece-level, but pretty good. It more of a 7 to 8/10 game were 64 and the two Galaxy games were solid 9's, even 10's.
Some levels like the theme park were great, while others like the mansion were a tad boring. The pure platforming levels were horrendous, and I dreaded them everytime they appeared. And man, some bonus levels like the flipper one were broken beyond belief. Considering Nintendo's QA standards, it was pretty baffling.
But like everyone else, I loved the tropical setting, the soundtrack, the graphics (I am still bummed it wasn't 60 fps though), and the "story" was a bit more fleshed-out and interesting than the previous entries. The whole doppelganger thing with Antimario and Peach being not captured from the get-go were nice breaks from the formula.
If you haven't played the game yet, just stick to the main quest. This is the only 3D Mario game where doing the 100% route is not only unnecessary but will only degrade the whole experience. The is the COMPLETE opposite of Odyssey !
Three years later, I mustered up some courage and gave it another shot.
And well... it was pretty good. Not awesome, not masterpiece-level, but pretty good. It more of a 7 to 8/10 game were 64 and the two Galaxy games were solid 9's, even 10's.
Some levels like the theme park were great, while others like the mansion were a tad boring. The pure platforming levels were horrendous, and I dreaded them everytime they appeared. And man, some bonus levels like the flipper one were broken beyond belief. Considering Nintendo's QA standards, it was pretty baffling.
But like everyone else, I loved the tropical setting, the soundtrack, the graphics (I am still bummed it wasn't 60 fps though), and the "story" was a bit more fleshed-out and interesting than the previous entries. The whole doppelganger thing with Antimario and Peach being not captured from the get-go were nice breaks from the formula.
If you haven't played the game yet, just stick to the main quest. This is the only 3D Mario game where doing the 100% route is not only unnecessary but will only degrade the whole experience. The is the COMPLETE opposite of Odyssey !
socksfelloff
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It's a fantastic game but inverting the camera controls with gecko codes is a must!
VGEsoterica
Member
I will always defend my “Sunshine is the best” Mario game statement haha.
My wife and brother in law look at me like I’m crazy but to me it’s the perfect 3D Mario game. Wish we could get a remake or even a sequel on Switch!
My wife and brother in law look at me like I’m crazy but to me it’s the perfect 3D Mario game. Wish we could get a remake or even a sequel on Switch!
HaveButOneLife
Banned
Even though it was, just more in depth and more open.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
yeah, it still has a hub world with portals to multiple levels. each level has a series of objectives, making use of the open world style level design, encouraging replay. mini bosses are still there. power ups are still there. level design is very much like Mario 64, just w more detail. personally i think the economy demanded of 64 resulted in more iconic & memorable level design overall in that game, however Sunshine's levels have beebn great so far, and for me there are still plenty more to see. 64's are simpler in geometry while Sunshine's have a baroque-ness to them. they are lovingly stuffed with detail, with lots of attention paid to verticality. interesting how the water levels were the weakest part of 64 but here it's done so well, it's the main mode of the game!
i love it, it's kind of weird, out on it's own vibe. like the Super Mario Bros. 2 USA of the 3D games. for sure a must play.
i love it, it's kind of weird, out on it's own vibe. like the Super Mario Bros. 2 USA of the 3D games. for sure a must play.
lol i was wondering why camera controls felt off to me. oh well it doesn't take long to adjust to it...
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EndlessFloydian
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This game is my childhood. It'll be a dream come true for me if this and Paper Mario TTYD get a remaster of sorts.
-Arcadia-
Banned
I will fight you. : P Dire Dire Docks is a highlight of that game!
#Phonepunk#
Banned
Yo this Sand Bird, it’s really cool but it’s kicking my ass!
Edit: I won ok wow that was trippy I totally see the beginnings of Super Mario Galaxy in this level design
Edit: I won ok wow that was trippy
I totally see the beginnings of Super Mario Galaxy in this level design
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#Phonepunk#
Banned
Just got to 25 stars. It’s been very fun and not frustrating at all really. Good stuff
Rockondevil
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I absolutely loved Sunshine. Definitely gets an unjust amount of hate.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
Not a fan of the other nozzle add ons tbh. Once you get the ticket or whatever u can’t seem to use the hover function anymore. This is where a remaster could let u switch between them
existensmaximum
Member
Except for some insanely frustrating stages, it's an incredible game. I think it has aged very well too, both graphically and gameplay-wise.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
There have been a couple parts where I almost got frustrated but then just by exploring I could always figure it out.
Just arrived in the sunset beach. I love it! This manta ray fight is really cool. I wonder if Demon’s Souls was inspired by this game...
Just arrived in the sunset beach. I love it! This manta ray fight is really cool. I wonder if Demon’s Souls was inspired by this game...
existensmaximum
Member
Yeah, it's actually the first time someone took inspiration from a Mario game. Someone quick call the gaming police!
#Phonepunk#
Banned
Praise the lord after much pain and repeated dying I finally conquered The Hotel Lobby’s Secret. the part with the dissolving sugar cubes had me on the edge of my seat every time. wow that was a git gud Mario level! ❤ I thank them for including that easy 1-up so I could try it so many times
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Guardian's Light
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Still the best Mario ever created imho, Galaxy and Odissey, even 64 fall way behind
There is something unique in it, being maybe the setting, the atmosphere, the gameplay, I don't know, but...I love that game, I replay it almost every year
Stiflers Mom
Banned
It kind of never really recovered.. :/
#Phonepunk#
Banned
it wasn't until i played through this that i realized just how much of Sunshine is in Odyssey. the capless mini levels are straight up takes on the Fluddless areas.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
ahh this King Boo boss fight... was SO GOOD!!
also feel like i've fought repeating giant squid boss a number of times now. 3? still a fun fight but you can tell they are stretching the content.
honestly that's my only complaint. just realized i am getting to the end of the game and there were only 10 levels. a huge step back from 64's 16 levels.
also feel like i've fought repeating giant squid boss a number of times now. 3? still a fun fight but you can tell they are stretching the content.
honestly that's my only complaint. just realized i am getting to the end of the game and there were only 10 levels. a huge step back from 64's 16 levels.
#Phonepunk#
Banned
This level right here! Maybe the best Mario level I have ever played.
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