I still think it will be 2017. Memory suppliers do not make the final call on hardware launch dates. Nintendo does. I still think its not happening for the console version this year.
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I still think it will be 2017. Memory suppliers do not make the final call on hardware launch dates. Nintendo does. I still think its not happening for the console version this year.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
yeah, and even in time for a new Nintendo console. The gif that keeps on giving, only now every game is not pure hyperbole, which is hilarious.
I Wanna Be The Guy
U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
People lost their shit with the original Xbox One reveal that required an online check once in 24 hours. How do you think people would react to not only online being a requirement for every game, but also full downloads being mandatory?
You're right that people wouldn't like that small of card. Especially Nintendo, since they have plenty of games way over 5GB.
Watch Dogs was about 14GB. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze was about 12GB.
I'm assuming Nintendo has given up trying to get 3rd party games like Assassin's Creed and COD. And will try to get their handheld 3rd party partners to make console games (cross buy, same cartridge works on both systems). If that's the case they are probably going to go with cartridges 8GB for small games to 16GB for medium games to 32GB for large games.
The games are functional without patches, so not really the same (unless it's Tony Hawk Pro Skater 5).
Really? Wild. That game had to have been poorly optimized. Isn't Xenoblade X only in the 20s?
Jonneh3003
Banned
I want as much cartridge as I can get.
Graphics Horse
Member
the discs only support 25ish.
I think 16GB would be an acceptable maximum to start with, they can increase it later for when the next Xenoblade launches
Fourth Storm
Member
I'm pretty sure Macronix lists their ROM products as up to 32 Gigabits. This matches up with the 4 Gigabyte cartridges currently used by some 3DS games. We have yet to see an 8 GB 3DS cartridge. Although early reports claimed that they were in the works, they never seem to have materialized.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
No HDMI out because it's a hybrid god damn it.
They'll have a separate HDMI signal sender for the TV play. It's all falling into place for me.
ClubCyberia
Member
"Your heart rate is a bit high, why not take a break?"
DKC:TF has an absolute shit ton of assets in it. There's a unique music track for every level in the game, too.
XCX is 22.7GB.
Jonneh3003
Banned
A combined handheld and console library makes me extremely excited. No need to fulfil multiple franchise installments to both sets of consumers, hopefully this leads to Nintendo covering more franchises and it can only cause software sales to rise. There are a lot of handheld Nintendo fans who don't buy Nintendo consoles so it'll be interesting to see how those guys effect the sales of games that are traditionally on consoles.
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Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
InPhase Technologies doesn't exist anymore, and all of their patents (apart from the joint patents they had with Nintendo) have been aquired by Akonia Holographics. Whether Nintendo and Akonia have any relationship I don't know.Übermatik;193590287 said:
There's this however:
Source: http://akoniaholographics.com/patents/
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
Come on ninty give us that direct.
Night Angel
Member
If the cartridges are small, RIP 3rd party support. Please don't fuck up another generation by picking a stupid format, Nintendo.
crooked spin
Member
Moratorium on the term "cartridges". Probably gives most people the wrong idea/flashbacks to playground arguments circa 1997...
There's 100GB+ SD cards out there. It's gonna be fine.
And how much do they cost compared to a standard Bluray disc and how long do they take to produce?
Fourth Storm
Member
I'm with you on that. They've been called Game Cards since the DS.
Graphics Horse
Member
People shouldn't be concerend with cost, Nintendo has been shipping tons more cards than discs as it is.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Why do people keep saying cartridges? It'll use SD cards or some proprietary variant a la the DS
MisterHero
Super Member
FFVII Remake Anthology on NX Cartridge
Oh the humanity
Oh the humanity
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
Well DS/3DS games are still cartridges technically, just very small.
FreedomFighter
Member
I have no idea why Nintendo never did that again. It breathed so much new life into my N64.Memory, you say? I wonder if they are reviving the
Pokemaniac
Member
It's nowhere near as easy to implement as it sounds. The capacity for upgrades needs to be designed into the system from day 1.
They made the DS & 3DS cartridges.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Murder. She Wrote
Member
I'm expecting the NX to be noticeably (but not by much) weaker than the Xbone, that way it will be impossible for me to be disappointed
If Nintendo wants the same physical medium used across consoles & handhelds, they have to go with cartridges.
Astral Dog
Member
what is a ROM
crooked spin
Member
back in my day, a ROM was something you downloaded from ye olde WAREZ site along with a few dozen viruses
A miserable little pile of data.
Well, a card could contain multiple rom chips. Furthermore, I wouldn't pay a whole lot of attention to what sizes they have on their website. Nintendo is most likely the largest buyer in the world, by a large margin, of multi-gigabit ROMs, so it's quite likely that Macronix won't tool up to produce given ROM sizes until Nintendo starts putting in orders for them. Macronix were apparently ready to produce 8GB 3DS cards back in 2010, so there's no reason to believe they shouldn't be able to produce 64GB or even 128GB cards today (although at what cost is a different matter).
The DS/3DS doesn't use a variant of SD cards (which are NAND flash memory), they use mask ROMs produced by Macronix, and the OP seems to confirm that the NX handheld will continue to do so.
Edit: That said, Nintendo's term for them is "game card", rather than cartridge.
UnemployedVillain
Member
Can someone point me in the direction of where 2016 was actually stated? Because it's definitely not in that slide
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Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
As I stated before: Due to the broken English, I cannot tell if the "NX in 2016" part is from the reporter or something CY Lu said. We will have to wait until someone fluent in Mandarin can provide a better translation (of both the article and webcast).
Pokemaniac
Member
Read Only Memory. Cartridges typically use solid state ROM chips.
So here's something I thought about: What if there's still discs for the console and cartridges for the handheld, but the console also has a slot for the cartridges? Maybe there are benefits to playing your handheld games in the console. Of course, games on the disc wouldn't be able to go over to the handheld, but these would be games designed for the more powerful console anyway.
EDIT- One other possibility for a universal medium: entirely digital... not that I think Nintendo would do this.
That would still result in 2 versions of the same game being sold in stores, which would be counter-intuitive to the whole "shared platform" thing.