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Magic: the Gathering |OT12| Hour of Devastation - Hour of Jace getting dunked on
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Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I just opened a diabolic edict.
Training grounds is the card that I want to make work in my cube the most. It just seems like it's be a lot of fun if you can put the right deck together.I just found a foil copy of Training Grounds in a shoebox.
Cool. I still have never opened a Masterpiece/Invocation/Expedition :'(
Bought a box, since I buy a box of every set, and this is probably around Dragon's Maze levels of bad. Not opening an Invocation puts the value down even more.
Just get the few cards youbwamt and call it a day. If you want some full arts, yupu cam get about twenty in the fat pack and still play pack lottery, but I don't recommend it.
Imperfected
Member
"Were you waiting for a juicier target to Negate?"
"No, no... I would just... prefer that he have Dovin Baan, really."
Listened to Roswatters Amonkhet design podcast on my run this morning and there were a few interesting things
- the trials were originally quests you would play and had several objectives you would try to fulfill during the match and after completing all of them you would cash in the trial for a big reward. They liked the flavor but they were too much of build arounds to be fun. There were also only originally only three trials, White, green and black.
- there was "super cycling" at one point that would allow you to discard the cycling card and an additional card to draw two cards
- An early idea for the split cards was that they would all be sorcery on one side and instant on the other. Rosewatters idea was that this would help with delirium.
- at one point there were hieroglyphs which got removed because they were too close to clue tokens after they changed the mechanic in SOI during development.
- the trials were originally quests you would play and had several objectives you would try to fulfill during the match and after completing all of them you would cash in the trial for a big reward. They liked the flavor but they were too much of build arounds to be fun. There were also only originally only three trials, White, green and black.
- there was "super cycling" at one point that would allow you to discard the cycling card and an additional card to draw two cards
- An early idea for the split cards was that they would all be sorcery on one side and instant on the other. Rosewatters idea was that this would help with delirium.
- at one point there were hieroglyphs which got removed because they were too close to clue tokens after they changed the mechanic in SOI during development.
SigmasonicX
Member
Very first Nicol Bolas cast!
And it's dead!
And it's dead!
Imperfected
Member
I'm more excited by all of this Jace.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/store-play-evolves-2017-07-16
Starting with Ixalan, no more FNM promos, from now on all foil tokens WTF
Also, Standard Showdown boosters will now include a foil Rebecca Guay land hnnng I really need some of those.
Game Day ceases to exist and now replaced by "Store Championship" at the end of a set's life.
Starting with Ixalan, no more FNM promos, from now on all foil tokens WTF
Also, Standard Showdown boosters will now include a foil Rebecca Guay land hnnng I really need some of those.
Game Day ceases to exist and now replaced by "Store Championship" at the end of a set's life.
blindrocket
Member
Wow
I wonder if FNM attendance is still low and it's not worth it to support them with Promos?
One of the four LGS in my town (which admittedly is probably too many) lost their ability to host FNM due to low attendance.
EDIT: I actually read the article now. I see how it's changing.
Haha i starter second guessing if I've just been pronouncing it incorrectly all this time.
Standard FNM promos rarely ever motivated me to play.
Foil Guay lands is excellent though.
He's the literal worst.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Well most of them were bad but I haven't been to an FNM since I got my 4th aether hub.
I gotta be ready for September and fatal push.
and I still owe Tunoku his aether hub.
Ultimate_Trainer
Member
I hope they have good tokens for promos. I always wanted a cool foil ragavan
They'll be for the current set, so there'll be 3 different double sided foil tokens for Ixalan.
To dump it on a day that will provoke less outrage. It's deliberate, SaffronOlive noted its a pattern now (and he's compeletely right about it)
I haven't gone to barely any FNMs ever, so this is w/e to me.
Ultimate_Trainer
Member
There's gotta be a pirate companion that's a token.I'll be down for it
Does anyone know if other countries have their promos in their respected language? Going to Tokyo the weekend following Ixalan release so I may look into it if they'll be in another language. Was just planning on picking up a booster box of Ixalan and maybe a few other things while there.
So far we know of Treasure tokens and 1/1 white lifelink Vampire tokens I think. So there has to be a few more.
I know other European countries get Spanish, Italian, French, German, etc so I assume Japan is the same.
blindrocket
Member
I really like that double sided foil Zombie token they put out. I only have one but could use a few more actually to use with Kalitas.
charlequin
Banned
The Game Day change is smart. Right now there's a limit how much people care about the Game Day events, putting them at the end of each set and leading with cards from the next set makes these make more sense overall.
The Standard Showdown change is very good, people are gonna go nuts for those foil Guay lands.
The FNM change is kind of mystifying to me. It's not like this is cheaper (on the contrary, it's probably pricier.) I guess the idea is that they want FNM promos to promote the current set (logical) and they can't reliably pick three cards from the current set that will be desirable to use as promos, while tokens will usually have a lot of value no matter what? I guess? It seems to me like it'd be hard to get this to provide the level of "free" value that they want FNMs to have.
The Standard Showdown change is very good, people are gonna go nuts for those foil Guay lands.
The FNM change is kind of mystifying to me. It's not like this is cheaper (on the contrary, it's probably pricier.) I guess the idea is that they want FNM promos to promote the current set (logical) and they can't reliably pick three cards from the current set that will be desirable to use as promos, while tokens will usually have a lot of value no matter what? I guess? It seems to me like it'd be hard to get this to provide the level of "free" value that they want FNMs to have.
Joe Molotov
Member
Now they're talking about how Selfless Spirit would save the board from Sweltering Suns, when a Soul Scar Mage is in play. Pro-tier commentary, bros.
I think the promo changes are partially linked to the need to get Median pack EV back up. This is the second change that directly affects it. (first being killing off Masterpieces)
charlequin
Banned
Okay, pack it up y'alls, I don't think anyone's gonna beat "the FNM changes are part of WotC's concerted effort to kill off paper" for galaxy-brain-level hot takes on these announcements.
This seems a lot more indirect. How are FNM promos, given the supply they're at, negatively affecting EV?
This seems a lot more indirect. How are FNM promos, given the supply they're at, negatively affecting EV?
Ah, I brainfarted and mixed those changes up w/ the Game Day ones. Ignore that.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Yeah, there's gotta be nearly a 100% chance that a "Pirate" token is in Ixalan, right?
What stats would it have? 1/1 Menace?
Still a minor tragedy that Ragavan is not a Pirate Monkey
Yeah, there's gotta be nearly a 100% chance that a "Pirate" token is in Ixalan, right?
What stats would it have? 1/1 Menace?
Still a minor tragedy that Ragavan is not a Pirate Monkey
If I recall correctly, Ixalan has 2/2 black pirate tokens with presumably lifelink.
Therr are some rares leaked that create the token.
Therr are some rares leaked that create the token.
blindrocket
Member
Fraying Sanity is $6 each now (and still trending upward at this point). Glad we all got in on it early.
blindrocket
Member
I saw someone streaming U/W Monument in Modern today and doing okay with it at least from what I watched.
charlequin
Banned
"Psychatog was originally the name for the white/blue Atog in the cycle, but at the last minute I swapped its name with the blue/black one (I was in Charge of names for Odyssey) because I thought Psychatog was the best name and the blue/black one was the strongest card."
this is (as far as I can tell) a brand new trivium, and I think in retrospect he clearly made the right call.
this is (as far as I can tell) a brand new trivium, and I think in retrospect he clearly made the right call.
FreedomFrisbee
Member
The promo changes just smack of throwing in the towel. They're not gonna be able to make FNM any more appealing than it already is without notably impacting their bottom line. It's also cutting their losses, there's an entire cycle of players that they pushed out of standard and into modern and EDH that will never be coming back so they're moving on.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Oh, nice! I honestly didn't look at the spoiled cards very closely - was too much of a hassle to read the blurry text
Oh, nice! I honestly didn't look at the spoiled cards very closely - was too much of a hassle to read the blurry text
There are sites out there that have a text spoiler for you to read, in case you wanted to look them up.
Giant Panda
Member
They had a hard time of reliably picking cards from previous sets for FNM promos too. They recently had Call the Bloodline, Fortune's Favor, Incendiary Flow, and Servo Exhibition/
SigmasonicX
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Or was it~
now I'm not sure if this was the plan
SigmasonicX
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For those not watching, Jonathan Job used Eldrazi Obligator to take control of Elder Deep-Fiend, then used Ahn-Crop Crasher and Ramunap Ruins for the win.
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