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'mainly young people with a migration background' riot in Stuttgart/germany.

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Yobs attacked police with stones and bottles after a German teenager was arrested for a drugs offence in clashes which quickly escalated into the city's worst-ever night of rioting.

Of the 24 people arrested, 12 were foreign nationals while three of the other 12 were German nationals with a migrant background, police announced at a press conference on Sunday.

Hans-Jürgen Kirstein, the head of a police union, told Bild that 'young people with a migration background were at the front of the riots'.

German chancellor Angela Merkel today condemned the violence as 'abhorrent' after even paramedics were attacked with bottles while trying to help an injured person.

Police say there was no sign of a political motivation, blaming alcohol and the 'party scene' for the outbreak of violence - although some have linked the riots to the anti-police protests in the United States.

Footage verified by German media showed some of the rioters chanting 'Allahu Akbar', meaning 'God is great' in Arabic, as they ran down a street during the night-time violence.
Amazing times to live in...
 

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Not sure about this, to be honest.
We will have to see how this develops with the current police discussion going on.
These assholes make me so angry. They should be sent back to their countries of origin if they think they need to behave like that here.
Half of them were Germans. So the countries of origin would be Germany... the other half will end in jail or in their country of origin. Maybe not now but ultimately.

the current police discussions are not really that connected to the German police. Sure not everything is perfect, but they are far far far away from what is Happening in the USA.

yeah those idiots make me angry too but they will face their penalties.

F flibbertyjibbert that has nothing to do with voting for Merkel or not voting for Merkel.
The government is stable and That is not bound to her. What do you want to see? A AfD lead government?
 

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It depends only on that one scenario?
Absolutely. Are they really a part of Germany if they do that like this mob did? Or are they just North Africans/Middle Easterners living there?

It's like if I moved to Japan - unless I fit in perfectly, got the language, understood their culture, etc. I would never be "Japanese". Culture is a set of behaviors that I think people can learn and adapt to, but in this case these people clearly have not.
 
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These people do not belong in Europe. Western Europe you used to have a proud culture, i had used to to think the world wars took it away from you by taking your best men but now i start to think it began in the industrial revolution.

This is what you have lost. You gave this away for multiculturalism, there was a general EUROPEAN culture and now it is mocked and dismissed as white supremacy while you let these foreigners ruin your countries.

I hope that in the near future you all come together and take back what is yours.

 

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Absolutely. Are they really a part of Germany if they do that like this mob did? Or are they just North Africans/Middle Easterners living there?

It's like if I moved to Japan - unless I fit in perfectly, got the language, understood their culture, etc. I would never be "Japanese". Culture is a set of behaviors that I think people can learn and adapt to, but in this case these people clearly have not.
Indeed. Its why we have the legal definition of what it means to be a citizen, and then an arbitrary one.
 

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Indeed. Its why we have the legal definition of what it means to be a citizen, and then an arbitrary one.
None of that matters, it always comes back to the culture you come from.

The Russian/Ukraine conflict, many ethnic Russians in Ukraine in the police and military switched sides and supported the Russian rebels in the east overnight. Russian and Ukrainian are the closest tied together cultures i can think of, almost indistinguishable other than accent and yet they went to war.

You think the pakistanis and "asians" in your country wont betray your nation if they get the chance?
 
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None of that matters, it always comes back to the culture you come from.

The Russian/Ukraine conflict, many ethnic Russians in Ukraine in the police and military switched sides and supported the Russian rebels in the east overnight. Russian and Ukrainian are the closest tied together cultures i can think of, almost indistinguishable other than accent and yet they went to war.

You think the pakistanis and "asians" in your country wont betray your nation if they get the chance?
The ones I know personally are second/third generation. They are as English as anyone else i know. I'm actually a first generation immigrant to the UK, came over when I was really young, and I see myself as English.
 
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Indeed. Its why we have the legal definition of what it means to be a citizen, and then an arbitrary one.
I could become a Japanese citizen, but I would never be Japanese. I could become a German citizen, and never be German. I could become a British citizen, but I would never be British. I could become a Nigerian citizen, but I would never be Nigerian.

American on the other hand has no race connotation associated with it. Anyone can come here and become an American. But you can't be an American if you don't follow our culture.

So yeah, none of these thugs are German. They just hold paperwork that allows them to live there.
 
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American on the other hand has no race connotation associated with it. Anyone can come here and become an American. But you can't be an American if you don't follow our culture.
Well except the native Americans I suppose. Same as British, are descendents of Normans, Romans, Saxons, Angles, Vikings, Jutes, Celts British or some of them? Where is the line drawn?
 

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Absolutely. Are they really a part of Germany if they do that like this mob did? Or are they just North Africans/Middle Easterners living there?

It's like if I moved to Japan - unless I fit in perfectly, got the language, understood their culture, etc. I would never be "Japanese". Culture is a set of behaviors that I think people can learn and adapt to, but in this case these people clearly have not.
Even if you integrated perfectly into their culture you would still not be japanese. And that's ok.
 
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Just English. Ive seen them introduce themselves to foreigners and they say English too. Does that change your answer?
Not really to be honest, it just makes me doubt their character. Not that it really matters, the proof is found in the pudding i believe is the saying. Regardless of what you , me or anyone says time will tell. Current events point towards native european cultures being overrun by foreigners. Their culture is already considered toxic and problematic, despite being the ones to create the modern world and drag the savages into it with them only for their great grandchildren to reject and rebel against it.

Countries with strong ethnic and family cultures will survive., i really believe the west will fall.
 
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Even if you integrated perfectly into their culture you would still not be japanese. And that's ok.
That is true, so Japan was probably not the best comparison. Their culture doesn't accept foreigners hardly at all beyond tourism.

But at least you can make an attempt at it. Like if I wanted to work over there as an engineer, I would have to pass the JLPT and be as language proficient as a native speaker, and to work there I would have to be valuable enough to overcome any cultural stigma towards a foreigner.

These guys do not even attempt to be German, and Germany has tried to get rid of what being "German" means.
 
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Do native Germans still value traditional marriage and having children? I heard they have one of the lowest birth rates in Europe.
 

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i think america and canada are the only two countries you can become a citizen of while being biologically from another part of the world, and still call yourself american or canadian

the united kingdom is kinda in the middle but it's headed in the direction of the united states/canada in my opinion

15 years ago you think england you think ricky gervais, david beckham, harry potter

today it's the same, but you kinda also think riz ahmed, idris elba..

the national food of the UK is fucken chicken tikka masala

in other cases for example, i don't think you can be nicaraguan, become a citizen of japan and then call yourself japanese

or if you're from nepal and you become a citizen of sweden, it doesn't make you swedish

or if you're swedish and you become a citizen of nepal, you aren't nepalese
 

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Well except the native Americans I suppose. Same as British, are descendents of Normans, Romans, Saxons, Angles, Vikings, Jutes, Celts British or some of them? Where is the line drawn?
The controlling majority culture.

And well, Native Americans are practically a myth, they are like 2% of the population. If they don't want to be part of the majority American culture, then meh, they have reservations to live in and casinos to run.
 
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The cultures they were brought up in and take with them, are not evolved for the culture/environment that exists in Europe.
They differ on certain fundamental levels, and this is what clashes.
I weep for the wonderful things in Europe that are just steadily destroyed.

There is no need to tolerate the intolerant. Misbehaviour needs to get punished and if you are unable to adapt to where you are, then it is only natural that you get removed one way or the other.
 

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so? what do want to tell me? That someone with brown skin can't be german?
Have you ever spoken to an immigrant? They don’t call themselves German, English, French or Belgian.

My father still says he’s Italian and he’s lived in the uk far longer than he ever lived in Italy.
 
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Half of them were Germans. So the countries of origin would be Germany... the other half will end in jail or in their country of origin. Maybe not now but ultimately.

the current police discussions are not really that connected to the German police. Sure not everything is perfect, but they are far far far away from what is Happening in the USA.

yeah those idiots make me angry too but they will face their penalties.

F flibbertyjibbert that has nothing to do with voting for Merkel or not voting for Merkel.
The government is stable and That is not bound to her. What do you want to see? A AfD lead government?

"With a migrant background" doesn't mean German. If a French woman gives birth while on holiday in Japan, that doesn't make her child Japanese. These rioters do not consider themselves German even if the state recognises them as such.
 
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It is sad to see such a beautiful city get trashed by trash.
Stuttgart is neither very livable nor particularly beautiful. I've never had a good plate of 'linsen mit spätzle' there
either so they can burn that place right down for all I care.