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Man volunteers for world first head transplant operation

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Africanus

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If it is successful, the doctor and the patient are recorded in the annals of history.
If it is not, then the doctor and the patient receive a small wikipedia paragraph in the larger context of head transplanting over the eras.
 

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Considering his disease, it is easy to see why he wants try an almost impossible surgery. That 0,0000005 percent chance is still better.
 

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I mean, it's not really a head transplant, though. It's a body transplant. The guy isn't getting a new head. He's keeping his head. He's getting a new body.
The outcome is really, really interesting though.

But I still wanna know what happens if you move a functional brain to another body.. will the person stay the same? Are we our brains or souls? Ahhhh.
 

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That will probably be on the doctor, but I'm thinking that amount can certainly be reduced. On such unique cases, doctors for instance can donate their time so they do their work for free.
Sure but I'm not sure about that. For starters it's a fairly controversial proposition to begin with so they might have trouble finding willing doctors let alone ones willing to do it for free.

The procedure was supposed to last almost 10hrs last I read it and that's not going to be cheap for the hospital either, again, even if they even find a hospital willing to host it.
 

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Sure but I'm not sure about that. For starters it's a fairly controversial proposition to begin with so they might have trouble finding willing doctors let alone ones willing to do it for free.

The procedure was supposed to last almost 10hrs last I read it and that's not going to be cheap for the hospital either, again, even if they even find a hospital willing to host it.
they will, probably in china where head transplant experiments are ongoing as we speak.
 

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Sure but I'm not sure about that. For starters it's a fairly controversial proposition to begin with so they might have trouble finding willing doctors let alone ones willing to do it for free.
I think they'll have more problems with making sure the insurance stuff is in order than finding candidates.

The procedure was supposed to last almost 10hrs last I read it and that's not going to be cheap for the hospital either, again, even if they even find a hospital willing to host it.
10 hours is long, but not that long. There have been surgeries lasting up to four days. If the hospital is worried about losing the OR for that time, they can plan it in the weekend when no-non urgent operations happen.
 

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Hmmm.... would it be possible to transplant a male head on a female body??................................
 

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Hmmm.... would it be possible to transplant a male head on a female body??................................
Certainly would be a lot less threads on Gaf about guys with girl troubles, which creepily enough commonly involves a cousin or two............that was this years best thread by far.
 

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Would it not be easier to just connect the head to various machines which supply it with whatever a head needs to survive? Futurama style heads in jars seem plausible to me.
 

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Would it not be easier to just connect the head to various machines which supply it with whatever a head needs to survive? Futurama style heads in jars seem plausible to me.
Well, a donor's body is doing the same exact thing as machines would. I guess it is easier to keep a head alive with a body than it would with machines.
While artificial lungs and a heart would be possible, how would you supply the head with nutrition through the bloodstream? I'm pretty sure it's easier to have an actual body attached doing that.
 

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Well, a donor's body is doing the same exact thing as machines would. I guess it is easier to keep a head alive with a body than it would with machines.
While artificial lungs and a heart would be possible, how would you supply the head with nutrition through the bloodstream? I'm pretty sure that's easier if you have an actual body attached that does that.
Basic nutrition ie glucose solution would be simple enough to provide. Protein would probably be the hardest to emulate plus there is a lot of chemical process your body performs in order to keep your brain alive.
 

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they will, probably in china where head transplant experiments are ongoing as we speak.
Hmm, didn't consider China as an option. That would make sense.

I think they'll have more problems with making sure the insurance stuff is in order than finding candidates.

10 hours is long, but not that long. There have been surgeries lasting up to four days. If the hospital is worried about losing the OR for that time, they can plan it in the weekend when no-non urgent operations happen.
Insurance and possible negative publicity is why many hospitals would reject these proposals. Same goes with doctors.
 

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i thought that, anatomically, it's far easier to attach a head facing backwards that facing the normal way
 

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But what will happen to all his memories? Plus will he then retain the memories of the other guy?
 

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This is weird why would you do a head transplant? and whose head would he be getting. sounds creepy fuck
 

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I suppose the one good thing about this is that being such a high profile event, when it fails (AND IT WILL) this whacko will be delicensed and disbarred from the medical practice. It's just a damn shame he managed to manipulate some poor soul already. I just can't believe this guy is being allowed to do this at all. Who is funding this?
 

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Hope science has discovered enough about the human body to make this work. Maybe if the the head (brain) is alive, it can make the new body work.

edit: I think it should be made clear that the person who volunteered is suffering from a terminal disease. This is more of a body transplant than a head transplant..he wants a new body.
 

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Insurance and possible negative publicity is why many hospitals would reject these proposals. Same goes with doctors.
At the same time, it is not the first time almost impossible stuff went through. The first time they transplanted anything has a high chance of going wrong and they managed to avoid those.
 

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I hope that this is successful. Muscle wasting disorders are no laughing matter. Everyone deserves to get ahead in life.
It won't, and even if he somehow manages to connect the millions of neuron fibers in the right order so that his ANS kicks in so he doesn't suffocate, either the guy's immune system rejects the head and he dies to GvH several days later or he has to take so many immunosuppressants that he dies to a common cold virus several days later. It's practically criminally irresponsible.
 

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It won't, and even if he somehow manages to connect the millions of neuron fibers in the right order so that his ANS kicks in so he doesn't suffocate, either the guy's immune system rejects the head and he dies to GvH several days later or he has to take so many immunosuppressants that he dies to a common cold virus several days later. It's practically criminally irresponsible.
That article also says the same operation almost succeeded on a monkey.

Even if there is little chance for this to work, the man who volunteered knows this maybe as good as electing for an euthanasia. Given his illness, he doesn't have much choice. But if his operation could result in findings that can help maybe the next operation succeed, humanity as a whole would significantly benefit from breaking this biological barrier.
 

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I'm not sure how I feel about this...the dude is going to die anyway, why not die being apart of some really fucked up experiment that has a 1% chance of being successful?

If I were in his shoes I...might consider it.

(I'd be way too scared)
 

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It won't, and even if he somehow manages to connect the millions of neuron fibers in the right order so that his ANS kicks in so he doesn't suffocate, either the guy's immune system rejects the head and he dies to GvH several days later or he has to take so many immunosuppressants that he dies to a common cold virus several days later. It's practically criminally irresponsible.
(Graft) Rejection =/= Graft versus Host Disease, more like the opposite. In GVHD immune cells from the graft (the transplanted tissue) attack the host's body, usually after bone marrow or stem cell transplants.
 

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The residual hormones within the body will likely change his personality/mood permanently. I hope they pull it off; anything can be done when we humans pool our resources, and 10 million for what sounds like a week-long procedure sounds about right. Key is to continually oxygenate the brain, perfectly match the sleep meds during the length of the procedure (he wouldn't want to wake up halfway!), and have a fresh corpse that
was decapitated cleanly so all the neurons are exposed. Finding the right body will probably take the longest time.

I'm optimistic, and I wish them the best. Maybe throw in 20 million.

Do it, Russia.
 
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