Man wearing ‘MAGA’ hat says woman berated him at California Starbucks for supporting Trump

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Man wearing ‘MAGA’ hat says woman berated him at California Starbucks for supporting Trump

A 74-year-old man said a woman berated and called him a racist at a California Starbucks on Monday after she spotted him wearing a “Make American Great Again” hat in support of President Trump.

The man, who was identified as Victor, told KTVU he was wearing the iconic red hat when the woman began yelling at him outside the coffee shop in Palo Alto.

“This woman came over and not only started screaming at me, she turned to the Starbucks audience and said, ‘Hey, everybody come here! This guy's a racist! This guy hates brown people!’” Victor told the news station.

Victor, who is Jewish, also told other news outlets that the woman called him a Nazi.

The woman, who later identified herself as Rebecca Mankey, admitted in a lengthy Facebook post that she yelled at Victor and called for anyone who spotted the 74-year-old wearing the “MAGA” hat to “please confront him.”

“I yelled at him. Called the entire Starbucks to order and yelled at him more about how it’s not okay to hate brown people…I called him more names and told him to call the police…He wouldn’t call the police so I called him a wimp, He got his stuff together to leave. I followed him to the register while he complained about me,” read the post on Mankey’s page, which has since been deactivated. “Then chased him out of Starbucks yelling at him to get the f--- out of my town.”


She later wrote in a comment that she was “going to publicly shame him in town and try to get him fired and kicked out of every club he is in.”

Palo Alto police said both parties did not file a report on the incident. Mankey, however, was fired from her job at Gryphon Strings, a guitar sales and repair shop, after the store owner was made aware of the altercation.
If you want to see what this wonderful human being looks like google her name. I can't seem to post the image. Lets just say its probably pretty close to what you are imagining.
 

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Ok got a pic to post so there she is in all her TDS glory.
 
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Justice served.....I guess.

I say only wimps call the police in such an altercation but in her twisted view of things calling an armed enforcement arm of the government to come win your arguments is actually a sign of bravery. huh.
 

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She coudn't stop the evil. Why people didn't help her? /s

Meanwhile we got this gold from the same youtube comments:

"Fascists love using fascism as an excuse to practice fascism on people that aren’t fascists at all. "
 

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He should have called the police on her harassing ass.

But she got fired so it's all good.
 
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Mankey, however, was fired from her job at Gryphon Strings, a guitar sales and repair shop, after the store owner was made aware of the altercation.
Swift poetic justice of, get woke go broke.

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Perhaps losing her job will teach her to mind her own business.

Probably not
Pretty sure she will double down and blame the Mossad, International Jewery, and AIPAC for her fireing. The guy was Jewish so obvisouly he hypnotized her boss into fireing her because its all about the Benjamins.

I bet this guy wasn't even in the towers during 9/11 when some people did something, most likely Jews since they were dancing on the streets after the towers collapsed.

/s
 

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Fox News busy creating the reality they already sold.
What does this even mean?

Fox didn't do anything but report on a story of a crazy lady harrasing an old man for wearing a hat. At least they didn't pull a CNN and say he was smirking at her so he is racist. I guess her being white saved him from being falsely accused of a hate crime.
 

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No, but I'm in favor of verbal altercations in a Starbucks not being considered national news just because they fit an agenda.
Given that my leap of logic is smaller than those you've put forward in this thread, you're going to need to do better than that.
And, do me a favour, next time you consider putting the word "agenda" in your counterpoints, take a good, long look in the mirror first. Then wait 5 minutes. Then do it again.
 
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Given that my leap of logic is smaller than those you've put forward in this thread, you're going to need to do better than that.
And, do me a favour, next time you consider putting the word "agenda" in your counterpoints, take a good, long look in the mirror first. Then wait 5 minutes. Then do it again.
Fox News is 24/7 busy creating a world where immigrants a great threat, white conservative Americans are the victims, democrats are evil and un-american socialists and experts are lying elites who want to change the American Way Of Life with their fake climate science.

It's a twilight zone that revolves around fear and prejudice and ignorance.
And if you have internalized all of this, the crazy lady in Starbucks is simply functioning as validation of these convictions.


I see. So if a random white man harassed an Arab muslim woman in a Starbucks for wearing a hijab, you would just yawn and shrug about that too?
Uhh, if made a big ordeal every time a muslim in the US is faced with some racist remarks I would be very busy.
 
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Fox News is 24/7 busy creating a world where immigrants a great threat, white conservative Americans are the victims, democrats are evil and un-american socialists and experts are lying elites who want to change the American Way Of Life with their fake climate science.

It's a twilight zone that revolves around fear and prejudice and ignorance.
You don't need to create a fictional version of Fox News in order to portray them as a partisan media outlet.
 

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No, but I'm in favor of verbal altercations in a Starbucks not being considered national news just because they fit an agenda.
I’m also in favor of a drumming Indian nut job harassing smirking children not being national news, or fake hate crimes against celebrities not being national news, but this is the 🤡🌎 we live in.
 

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‘Hey, everybody come here! This guy's a racist! This guy hates brown people!’
“...and yelled at him more about how it’s not okay to hate brown people..."
These people really like to bring attention to skin color, don't they.

How people can ever stop giving attention to skin color when people who are against racism constantly bring it up themselves?

I swear the next generation is going to cringe at these "progressives" today when they are looking at them call certain groups of people by their skin color. Like really, to this woman there are groups of "brown people" around who constantly need her help from people with red slogan hats. That's amazingly condescending towards the people she thinks she helps.
"Oh, is your skin brown? Here, let me help you by yelling at that old man there. I'm sure you appreciate my efforts because your skin is brown and that man has that hat."


Ok got a pic to post so there she is in all her TDS glory.
Culturally appropriating Native Americans, tut tut!
 
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Fox News is 24/7 busy creating a world where immigrants a great threat, white conservative Americans are the victims, democrats are evil and un-american socialists and experts are lying elites who want to change the American Way Of Life with their fake climate science.

It's a twilight zone that revolves around fear and prejudice and ignorance.
And if you have internalized all of this, the crazy lady in Starbucks is simply functioning as validation of these convictions.




Uhh, if made a big ordeal every time a muslim in the US is faced with some racist remarks I would be very busy.
"Gosh Fox news is the real problem here

Right guys....guys... please don't ignore me."
 

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That's not what was asked.
You need to do better at hiding your double-standards.
You just assume that it is always filmed. If it is filmed and makes its way to the internet it will probably make national headlines.
If it isn't filmed it just one of hundreds of such incidents happening all over the US every day.

The important difference is that Muslims in the US are actually discriminated against and they're facing a lot of hate and stigmatization.
The same can't be said about white conservatives who feel like they are discriminated against because people call them out on their racism.(Not that I think this was the case in the video)
Because, let's face it, if you are a Trump support today still, you are either racist yourself or you care about racism little enough that you are willing to look past the Trump administrations racism or you are so massively misinformed and stupid that you don't realize that this administration is racist and that you are supporting a racist agenda.



I’m also in favor of a drumming Indian nut job harassing smirking children not being national news, or fake hate crimes against celebrities not being national news, but this is the 🤡🌎 we live in.
This is the country you live in. Be better.


"Gosh Fox news is the real problem here

Right guys....guys... please don't ignore me."
I don't think a single one of my posts in this forum, ever since the "exodus", failed to attract at least a couple responses.
I feel like a troll on here because everything thats not an opinion from the US right wing hive-mind stirs the pot on GAF in a way that would make any troll proud.
The US has moved so far to the right that basic centrist viewpoints seem like a provocation to them.

I actually believe by now that the resurgence of nationalist, right wing ideology in the US and Europe is one of the biggest threats we are facing right now.
Not only is its identitarian nature destined to create an environment ripe with conflict and violence, but its also an extremely anti-intellectual ideology thats ignoring science and reason to be able to stick with positions that feel emotionally right.
Humanity is at a point where it can't afford any more violent conflict considering our ever increasing capabilities for destruction. The last thing we need now is more division on an ethnic, religious, racial and national level that will only create new existential conflicts between these groups.
And considering we are facing actual existential threats in the form of climate change, but also in the form of new technologies we need to control and new societal challenges we need to solve, this is a time were we should rely on science and expertise more than ever, but instead we do it less and less.

My job is to tell people, so that nobody can claim they didn't know afterwards.


You don't need to create a fictional version of Fox News in order to portray them as a partisan media outlet.
Isn't Fox News pretty much the prime example of a partisan outlet? Like, CNN has its bias towards sensationalism, which is bad enough, but their partisan appearance is just a result of the fact that the GOP is a mess you simply can't report any more positively on.
But Fox News is literally used in journalism courses in Europe to illustrate framing tactics, propaganda and misinformation.
I would never think of trying to portray them as partisan, because I think its common knowledge that Fox News is a propaganda outlet.
 

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My job is to tell people, so that nobody can claim they didn't know afterwards.
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So you're a self-righteous religious zealot.

Glad we can all safely put you on Ignore now, knowing that you have literally no value to add to this forum.

Fuck off with the moralizing. We're attempting to build a community and you brainwashed crusaders are still busy trying to purge wrongthink. There's already a forum for that: resetera.com
 

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You just assume that it is always filmed. If it is filmed and makes its way to the internet it will probably make national headlines.
If it isn't filmed it just one of hundreds of such incidents happening all over the US every day.

The important difference is that Muslims in the US are actually discriminated against and they're facing a lot of hate and stigmatization.
The same can't be said about white conservatives who feel like they are discriminated against because people call them out on their racism.(Not that I think this was the case in the video)
Because, let's face it, if you are a Trump support today still, you are either racist yourself or you care about racism little enough that you are willing to look past the Trump administrations racism or you are so massively misinformed and stupid that you don't realize that this administration is racist and that you are supporting a racist agenda.




This is the country you live in. Be better.



I don't think a single one of my posts in this forum, ever since the "exodus", failed to attract at least a couple responses.
I feel like a troll on here because everything thats not an opinion from the US right wing hive-mind stirs the pot on GAF in a way that would make any troll proud.
The US has moved so far to the right that basic centrist viewpoints seem like a provocation to them.

I actually believe by now that the resurgence of nationalist, right wing ideology in the US and Europe is one of the biggest threats we are facing right now.
Not only is its identitarian nature destined to create an environment ripe with conflict and violence, but its also an extremely anti-intellectual ideology thats ignoring science and reason to be able to stick with positions that feel emotionally right.
Humanity is at a point where it can't afford any more violent conflict considering our ever increasing capabilities for destruction. The last thing we need now is more division on an ethnic, religious, racial and national level that will only create new existential conflicts between these groups.
And considering we are facing actual existential threats in the form of climate change, but also in the form of new technologies we need to control and new societal challenges we need to solve, this is a time were we should rely on science and expertise more than ever, but instead we do it less and less.

My job is to tell people, so that nobody can claim they didn't know afterwards.



Isn't Fox News pretty much the prime example of a partisan outlet? Like, CNN has its bias towards sensationalism, which is bad enough, but their partisan appearance is just a result of the fact that the GOP is a mess you simply can't report any more positively on.
But Fox News is literally used in journalism courses in Europe to illustrate framing tactics, propaganda and misinformation.
I would never think of trying to portray them as partisan, because I think its common knowledge that Fox News is a propaganda outlet.
Why do you love to diverge the subject so much? The thead subject was so simple to understand.
 

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I don't think a single one of my posts in this forum, ever since the "exodus", failed to attract at least a couple responses.
I feel like a troll on here because everything thats not an opinion from the US right wing hive-mind stirs the pot on GAF in a way that would make any troll proud.
The US has moved so far to the right that basic centrist viewpoints seem like a provocation to them.

I actually believe by now that the resurgence of nationalist, right wing ideology in the US and Europe is one of the biggest threats we are facing right now.
Not only is its identitarian nature destined to create an environment ripe with conflict and violence, but its also an extremely anti-intellectual ideology thats ignoring science and reason to be able to stick with positions that feel emotionally right.
Humanity is at a point where it can't afford any more violent conflict considering our ever increasing capabilities for destruction. The last thing we need now is more division on an ethnic, religious, racial and national level that will only create new existential conflicts between these groups.
And considering we are facing actual existential threats in the form of climate change, but also in the form of new technologies we need to control and new societal challenges we need to solve, this is a time were we should rely on science and expertise more than ever, but instead we do it less and less.

My job is to tell people, so that nobody can claim they didn't know afterwards.



Isn't Fox News pretty much the prime example of a partisan outlet? Like, CNN has its bias towards sensationalism, which is bad enough, but their partisan appearance is just a result of the fact that the GOP is a mess you simply can't report any more positively on.
But Fox News is literally used in journalism courses in Europe to illustrate framing tactics, propaganda and misinformation.
I would never think of trying to portray them as partisan, because I think its common knowledge that Fox News is a propaganda outlet.
What is with liberals and the sense of arrogance they carry. Yeah dude, it's all "right wing" conjecture. Couldn't possibly be the crazy idea that creating a public scene and harassing a innocent person over a stupid hat is dumb. Nope, it's the fault of fox news
 

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She bragged about trying to shame him and get him fired and thrown out of every place (for wearing a fuckin hat) but didn't the opposite happen, or the reverse happen (whatever)? DId I read that she, in fact, has been fired, or am I mixing up my "let's harass people for wearing a hat" stories?

This shit has gotta stop, man. This kind of stuff kills me. Misdirected hostility, wasted energy. This kind of stuff, in my opinion, is a big reason why the left lost/is losing.
 
I don't think a single one of my posts in this forum, ever since the "exodus", failed to attract at least a couple responses.
I feel like a troll on here because everything thats not an opinion from the US right wing hive-mind stirs the pot on GAF in a way that would make any troll proud.
The US has moved so far to the right that basic centrist viewpoints seem like a provocation to them.

I actually believe by now that the resurgence of nationalist, right wing ideology in the US and Europe is one of the biggest threats we are facing right now.
Not only is its identitarian nature destined to create an environment ripe with conflict and violence, but its also an extremely anti-intellectual ideology thats ignoring science and reason to be able to stick with positions that feel emotionally right.
Humanity is at a point where it can't afford any more violent conflict considering our ever increasing capabilities for destruction. The last thing we need now is more division on an ethnic, religious, racial and national level that will only create new existential conflicts between these groups.
And considering we are facing actual existential threats in the form of climate change, but also in the form of new technologies we need to control and new societal challenges we need to solve, this is a time were we should rely on science and expertise more than ever, but instead we do it less and less.
You mean like drawing a line in this country by skin color? Ever heard the term POC? Understand it's not just the right divding this country. Sure they may be more focused on traditional values but someone has to. I feel like both progressive and conservative viewpoints are important for this countries growth and health. It's the yin and the yang(CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!) of positive change. We need to move forward but not lose sight of what got us here while still considering the cost in human suffering. It's not a pretty process. But one side having all the power has always proved disastrous. If you don't see the danger of the social justice movement, you don't know history or even the current world. Destroying people via social media and taking away their ability to make a living for themselves under what is an ever-changing code of ethics is scary as fuck. The fact that hailed progressives can find themselves cast off and destroyed a few years/months later for not conforming to whatever some left wing nutbag considers the latest litmus test for those who are GOOD is a huge problem staring progressives right in their smug faces. So really this isn't growth but rather switching from religious puritan values to some weird academia human block chain set of ideals that is heavily susceptible to mental illness.


Isn't Fox News pretty much the prime example of a partisan outlet? Like, CNN has its bias towards sensationalism, which is bad enough, but their partisan appearance is just a result of the fact that the GOP is a mess you simply can't report any more positively on.
Fox news sprung up due to an extremely unbalanced news media. I have turned on the channel only a few times in my life and I find lately I feel the same of CNN and MSNBC. Fox played up on peoples fears and emotion and now CNN and MSNBC have followed suit. So rather than fix the cause they emulated the results to try and CAPITALIZE on Fox's success. Which in a strange way the right should respect... =\
 

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You mean like drawing a line in this country by skin color? Ever heard the term POC? Understand it's not just the right divding this country.
The important factor here is always the power dynamic. A majority that, on top of being a majority, also holds disproportionally large amounts of the power in a country functions in a way that fundamentally different from a disenfranchised minority that tries to protect its identity and culture and right in a society that threatens these aspects.

Sure they may be more focused on traditional values but someone has to. I feel like both progressive and conservative viewpoints are important for this countries growth and health.
What are these conservative and traditional values you think are important?



We need to move forward but not lose sight of what got us here while still considering the cost in human suffering. It's not a pretty process. But one side having all the power has always proved disastrous.
Think outside the box man. Why are you talking about two sides even?
There are no two sides, but y'all still try to shoehorn the countries political leaning into a binary way of expression because a couple hundred years ago people who never even anticipated the problems we are facing today created a voting system that automatically leads to a two party system.
And people have internalized this status quo to the point where they aren't even capable of conceptualizing an America that works differently.


If you don't see the danger of the social justice movement, you don't know history or even the current world.
Social justice has been at the core of german politics for the past 80 years.
It's the reason why we have universal healthcare, free college education, a robust social net and much more.
Soziale Gerechtigkeit (social justice) is one of the top voter concerns in Germany.

Destroying people via social media and taking away their ability to make a living for themselves under what is an ever-changing code of ethics is scary as fuck.
Or you can call it responsibility, an important aspect of free speech.
This was always an integral part of free speech, but for the longest time people didn't realize that because their speech only reached very few. Today you can reach everyone and with reach grows responsibility and also consequences.
But people act like they are still entitled to be treated as if they were talking to their 3 best friends in a treehouse.

The fact that hailed progressives can find themselves cast off and destroyed a few years/months later for not conforming to whatever some left wing nutbag considers the latest litmus test for those who are GOOD is a huge problem staring progressives right in their smug faces. So really this isn't growth but rather switching from religious puritan values to some weird academia human block chain set of ideals that is heavily susceptible to mental illness.
I don't even know what you are talking about.

If there is a problem on the left then I think it's the way criticism is received.
No better way to expose narcissism than criticizing a person and watching them interpret it as a personal attack.



Fox news sprung up due to an extremely unbalanced news media. I have turned on the channel only a few times in my life and I find lately I feel the same of CNN and MSNBC. Fox played up on peoples fears and emotion and now CNN and MSNBC have followed suit. So rather than fix the cause they emulated the results to try and CAPITALIZE on Fox's success. Which in a strange way the right should respect... =\
CNN and MSNBC both have the aforementioned bias towards sensationalism, but unlike Fox News they usually get scientific facts in their reporting right and don't go to extreme lengths to frame and issues alongside a specific agenda.
I don't think it's good journalism or reporting, but at least it can still be called that. While Fox News is straight up propaganda and has nothing to do with journalism.
 

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CNN and MSNBC both have the aforementioned bias towards sensationalism, but unlike Fox News they usually get scientific facts in their reporting right and don't go to extreme lengths to frame and issues alongside a specific agenda.
I don't think it's good journalism or reporting, but at least it can still be called that. While Fox News is straight up propaganda and has nothing to do with journalism.
 

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What is their agenda other than ratings?
MSNBC and CNN are neither pushing leftist nor progressive nor conservative agendas. They are simply all over the place depending on the dynamic an issues takes on.

And I think that fucking sucks. In my opinion the best media outlets are the one with clear and open convictions. For example ARD and ZDF who clearly and openly push the agenda of Germanys constitutional value foundation.

Glimpses of similar approaches can be seen in the NYT and WaPo, but only very limited by comparison.
 

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What is their agenda other than ratings?
MSNBC and CNN are neither pushing leftist nor progressive nor conservative agendas. They are simply all over the place depending on the dynamic an issues takes on.

And I think that fucking sucks. In my opinion the best media outlets are the one with clear and open convictions. For example ARD and ZDF who clearly and openly push the agenda of Germanys constitutional value foundation.

Glimpses of similar approaches can be seen in the NYT and WaPo, but only very limited by comparison.


Just... stop.
 
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What is their agenda other than ratings?
MSNBC and CNN are neither pushing leftist nor progressive nor conservative agendas. They are simply all over the place depending on the dynamic an issues takes on.

And I think that fucking sucks. In my opinion the best media outlets are the one with clear and open convictions. For example ARD and ZDF who clearly and openly push the agenda of Germanys constitutional value foundation.

Glimpses of similar approaches can be seen in the NYT and WaPo, but only very limited by comparison.
God, can you be any more full of shit.
 

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When y'all don't know what to say anymore you resort to posting gifs or some other forms of shit posts. Anything in order to avoid having to formulate a further argument.
Not just you and not just in this thread.

I hope that, even though y'all would never admit it, you at least realize how weak your viewpoints must have been when you can't even defend it against a bunch of simple counter points.
 

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When y'all don't know what to say anymore you resort to posting gifs or some other forms of shit posts. Anything in order to avoid having to formulate a further argument.
Not just you and not just in this thread.

I hope that, even though y'all would never admit it, you at least realize how weak your viewpoints must have been when you can't even defend it against a bunch of simple counter points.
You are a waste of text, because you are nothing more than a full of shit troll.
 

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You just assume that it is always filmed. If it is filmed and makes its way to the internet it will probably make national headlines.
If it isn't filmed it just one of hundreds of such incidents happening all over the US every day.

The important difference is that Muslims in the US are actually discriminated against and they're facing a lot of hate and stigmatization.
The same can't be said about white conservatives who feel like they are discriminated against because people call them out on their racism.(Not that I think this was the case in the video)
Because, let's face it, if you are a Trump support today still, you are either racist yourself or you care about racism little enough that you are willing to look past the Trump administrations racism or you are so massively misinformed and stupid that you don't realize that this administration is racist and that you are supporting a racist agenda.
That's not what was asked.
You need to do better at hiding your double-standards.
 

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What is their agenda other than ratings?
MSNBC and CNN are neither pushing leftist nor progressive nor conservative agendas. They are simply all over the place depending on the dynamic an issues takes on.

And I think that fucking sucks. In my opinion the best media outlets are the one with clear and open convictions. For example ARD and ZDF who clearly and openly push the agenda of Germanys constitutional value foundation.

Glimpses of similar approaches can be seen in the NYT and WaPo, but only very limited by comparison.