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Beam said:
Fairy tail
Lucy + Natsu + Unison Fire Raid = goodbye Ultear and Kain.
Why the hell does Lucy not use Gemini on all of her opponents? Geez.

The very fact that she used what are arguably her 3 weakest spirits against him is to most likely to help set up the win that Natsu and her are gonna get when she uses her actually good spirits.
 
DoomXploder7 said:
The very fact that she used what are arguably her 3 weakest spirits against him is to most likely to help set up the win that Natsu and her are gonna get when she uses her actually good spirits.
What Steroyd said. The zodiac spirits are not weak. Besides Lucy needs to show that she is powerful on her own, of course i include her with her spirits, Not with some help from Natsu or anyone else. All the fights she had should have made her strong on her own (+spirits). It is like she has not learned anything from her experiences.

One can predict what will happen next based on the title of the next chapter. Lucy´s fire implies that she might use Gemini, copy Natsu´s ability and make a unison attack.
 
DoomXploder7 said:
The very fact that she used what are arguably her 3 weakest spirits against him is to most likely to help set up the win that Natsu and her are gonna get when she uses her actually good spirits.

But they were 3 Zodiac keys, we're supposed to believe that the twelve of them are the creme de la creme of all the keys.

That is unless the author starts busting out platinum keys.
 
So I went through Hiroaki Samura's torture/bondage artbook, The Love of a Brute/Hitodenasi no Koi. It's, uh, whoa.
You should totally go through it, cosmic.

It's basically of women getting tied up/torn/beaten/raped/mutilated, about one hundred exceptionally drawn scenes. It's genuinely horrifying stuff, and the art is impeccable.

Here's the postscript:



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Koharu no Hibi:

I love how even the most heartwarming moments suddenly turn so creepy with this girl.
 
Neoriceisgood said:
Fairy Tail

I don't feel like rereading to doublecheck, but somehow Lucy's shirt being blown/torn half off seems awfully familiar.

I feel like he does it every arc?

DoomXploder7 said:
The very fact that she used what are arguably her 3 weakest spirits against him is to most likely to help set up the win that Natsu and her are gonna get when she uses her actually good spirits.

Hopefully Loki and Capricorn are out of recovery status, or that there is water around for the other spirit...unless shes out on a date again.
 
Kozue Amano is such an awesome illustrator.
Received my Birth artbook today and half of it is dedicated to Aria. Such beautiful art, makes me want to go and pick up Aqua and Aria again.
 
Dresden said:
So I went through Hiroaki Samura's...

*stuff*
Lol, so this post looks a lot different now that I got some sleep.

I've always been a fan of Blade of the Immortal, and that certainly didn't lack for bloody shit, but the artbook was just on whole another level (perhaps because of the overtly sexual nature of it)--hence the fascination. I don't think anyone who follows horror films would be fazed by it, but there's a certain allure about the superb craftsmanship that Samura brings to this. Not to mention an additional level of disgust thanks to the subject matter--I missed the 'erotica' part of entirely, but the rest, I got--and overall I thought it interesting enough to share.

Anyways, I won't waste more time about it. There's Fairy Tail to discuss.

Lucy's shirt is somehow staying on.
 
Started Shingeki no Kyojin. Was gonna wait until it got further, but I thought what the hell. It's pretty damn awesome. The titans are some scary ass villains. I never expected Eren would be a decoy protagonist. Even the strong people are fucked.
 
cosmicblizzard said:
Started Shingeki no Kyojin. Was gonna wait until it got further, but I thought what the hell. It's pretty damn awesome. The titans are some scary ass villains. I never expected Eren would be a decoy protagonist. Even the strong people are fucked.
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cosmicblizzard said:
Started Shingeki no Kyojin. Was gonna wait until it got further, but I thought what the hell. It's pretty damn awesome. The titans are some scary ass villains. I never expected Eren would be a decoy protagonist. Even the strong people are fucked.

Keep reading...
 
OP

Yeah, I don't see how Hodi or Decken can be the main antagonists of the arc unless Luffy/Zoro get MAJOR handicaps. Zoro already has one and he essentially one-shotted Hodi. Maybe a bigger enemy is lurking around that Hodi works for or something.

Edit: BTW, does anyone think One Piece may be in danger of getting censored? I mean there's a decent chance FI could get flooded or something. Though I guess it wouldn't matter to a majority of the citizens living there.
 
One Piece

Great chapter. I'm surprised at the strength of the Luffy and Zoro. They just destroyed the guys who we all thought were supposed to be main villains. Well, Zoro kicking that guy's ass is a bit of a stretch since you don't see a resolution but I wouldn't be surprised if Hodi is done. Decken is a wimp. Luffy is so awesome.

Anyone know what Nami is talking about? I get the feeling that I should know what she's talking about in her page.
 
Ninjimbo said:
One Piece

Great chapter. I'm surprised at the strength of the Luffy and Zoro. They just destroyed the guys who we all thought were supposed to be main villains. Well, Zoro kicking that guy's ass is a bit of a stretch since you don't see a resolution but I wouldn't be surprised if Hodi is done. Decken is a wimp. Luffy is so awesome.

Anyone know what Nami is talking about? I get the feeling that I should know what she's talking about in her page.
Death of the Queen would be my guess.
I think it's pretty much confirmed that Hodi and Decken aren't the main villains in this arc when Keimi said Hachi said there are stronger guys than Hodi around.
 
Ninjimbo said:
One PieceAnyone know what Nami is talking about? I get the feeling that I should know what she's talking about in her page.

I'm thinking, Jimbe warned Luffy not to fight Hodi because he know he can kick his ass, but if he does so, it would be like Luffy is a Fishman hater after crushing Arlong and then his inherited will as well. Jimbe perhaps feels responsible and wants to make amends himself or something...
 
One Piece

Was not expecting Zoro to one shot Hodi underwater. O_O

Well at least Hodi still has his Steroids.

cosmicblizzard said:
Edit: BTW, does anyone think One Piece may be in danger of getting censored? I mean there's a decent chance FI could get flooded or something. Though I guess it wouldn't matter to a majority of the citizens living there.

I doubt it would because the whole arc is underwater, Whitebeard rocking Marineford would have been too blatent though.

but if he does so, it would be like Luffy is a Fishman hater after crushing Arlong and then his inherited will as well.

I don't think Arlong's crew is well liked at fisherman's island.

Edit: Yeah Hachi is referred to as a "thug".
 
One Piece

Hachi saying that there were stronger guys than Hodi and the way Luffy and Zoro just fucking embarrassed Van Der Decken and Hodi with a single blow all but confirms that they're not the final antagonists of this arc.

It's probable that Hodi will still come back from this with his energy steroids, but if his "base" strength can be one shotted with one sword slice, and Jinbe's warning has nothing to do with Hodi's strength, then there's probably somebody lurking above him.
 
One Piece:

Yeah, neither of these guys are final villains. Hodi is garbage. If he can be beat with one slash from Zoro underwater then I don't care how many pills he takes. Luffy should still absolutely demolish him. Decken might be somewhat of a threat if he takes a lot of pills but I doubt it. That assassin octopus seems stronger than both of these guys.
 
nelsonroyale said:
Holy shit this weeks chapter of OP was awesome...Luffy and Zoro are monsters

My thoughts exactly.

Finally we get the chapter to show how strong the crew has grown in the timeskip. Most badass chapter of OP in a while. Both Luffy & Zoro were amazing.
 
One Piece

That's cool that Zoro one shotted that scrub Hodi but I'm disappointed we didn't get to see the slash :( oh well, he's small time anyway and he'll probably get another shot with the pills as well. Looking forward to the meeting between Luffy and Jimbei and what he'll learn there.

Fairy Tail

Capricorn is bound to pull some kind of cool move because Lucy is worthless otherwise against these opponents. The Gemini idea some said here is intersting though, forgot about that summon.

Ended up choosing History's Greatest Disciple Kenichi as the new series to read and am almost at the hundreth chapter. Long way to go still, close to as far along as One Piece was when I first started it.
 
One Piece

Vander Decken probably shouldn't be written off quite so easily. He took a Jet Hammer from Luffy (another one of those insta-Gear attacks, apparently) and was up and ordering subordinates around just moments later.

Still totally badass stuff from Luffy and Zoro. The Zoro panel at the end was definitely a "fuck yeah!" moment.

Maybe this is all going to lead up to a confrontation with Big Mam after all?
 
I also have a feeling now that those other leaders in Hodi's gang are all stronger than him. He's really starting to seem like a figurehead to me.
 
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One Piece
The fights have begun , zoro and luffy were awesome this week.
I still think oda going make hodi take pills to give zoro a better fight he already handicap him anyway.
 
One Piece

Great chapter. Loved Zoro and Luffy one shotting Decken and Hodi, which basically confirms neither of them will be the main villain of the arc.
 
One Piece 618:

Anyone who is surprised by how easily Zoro and Luffy took on Decken and Hodi needs to read more Shounen. There's been a two year time skip and we've yet to see the full extent of the Straw Hat's training. Decken, Hodi, the rest of their crew and any enemies that show up to face the Straw Hats are destined to be "showcase enemies" until we see the "fruits" of their training. The most anyone should be looking forward to is Luffy and co showing off maybe one or two new techniques while stopping this rebellion.

And no one should be getting their hopes up for "stronger bad guys" showing up for the Fishman Island arc (I can already see the complaints when this arc is over, even though many of us have been saying this was going to happen for weeks now). And if stronger opponents do show up, expect them to be taken down quickly. Oda is establishing the Straw Hats as bad asses after the two year time skip and until they show their abilities no one should expect any long battles or the Straw Hats doing any real struggling against opponents.
 
Kreed said:
One Piece 618:

Anyone who is surprised by how easily Zoro and Luffy took on Decken and Hodi needs to read more Shounen. There's been a two year time skip and we've yet to see the full extent of the Straw Hat's training. Decken, Hodi, the rest of their crew and any enemies that show up to face the Straw Hats are destined to be "showcase enemies" until we see the "fruits" of their training. The most anyone should be looking forward to is Luffy and co showing off maybe one or two new techniques while stopping this rebellion.

And no one should be getting their hopes up for "stronger bad guys" showing up for the Fishman Island arc (I can already see the complaints when this arc is over, even though many of us have been saying this was going to happen for weeks now). And if stronger opponents do show up, expect them to be taken down quickly. Oda is establishing the Straw Hats as bad asses after the two year time skip and until they show their abilities no one should expect any long battles or the Straw Hats doing any real struggling against opponents.

The problem with this is that Oda doesn't know how to properly display how bad ass they are because he didn't set up the villains better. DBZ did it right, show the ginyuu force destroy the other fighters including Vegita who was pretty strong up till then to really emphasize how strong the enemies were so that when Goku came and one shot Recume, it was a big deal. Zoro one shot Hodi, good, because Hodi is a scrub so he should. Doesn't emphasize how strong Zoro actually is because none of us respect Hodi in the first place. How many posts have we had talking about how weak Hodi is, that he needs drugs to have any sort of power, etc.? You need some kind of build up for the enemies, make them look badass and strong before the protagonists crush them if you really want to display the protag's new found strength.
 
We already seen a person who is stronger then Hodi. That swordsman fishman guy from several chapters back. I bet he is one of the true villains.
 
Kreed said:
One Piece 618:


And no one should be getting their hopes up for "stronger bad guys" showing up for the Fishman Island arc (I can already see the complaints when this arc is over, even though many of us have been saying this was going to happen for weeks now).
One of the characters straight up said that there were people "much stronger than Hodi," in a way that wouldn't make much sense unless talking about what's going on on Fishman Island.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
One of the characters straight up said that there were people "much stronger than Hodi," in a way that wouldn't make much sense unless talking about what's going on on Fishman Island.
That was apparently a translation error.


http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=2173039&postcount=110
Oh for GOD'S SAKES.
Another terrible translation mistake.

Camie never said there are people lot stronger than Hodi. Geez, who is this translator?

Here's the correct translation.
"I know you guys are really strong, but not only is Hodi very strong, but also has a really dangerous mind. Hacchin told me so."
 
Squall ASF said:
The problem with this is that Oda doesn't know how to properly display how bad ass they are because he didn't set up the villains better. DBZ did it right, show the ginyuu force destroy the other fighters including Vegita who was pretty strong up till then to really emphasize how strong the enemies were so that when Goku came and one shot Recume, it was a big deal. Zoro one shot Hodi, good, because Hodi is a scrub so he should. Doesn't emphasize how strong Zoro actually is because none of us respect Hodi in the first place. How many posts have we had talking about how weak Hodi is, that he needs drugs to have any sort of power, etc.? You need some kind of build up for the enemies, make them look badass and strong before the protagonists crush them if you really want to display the protag's new found strength.


How you can say Oda doen't know how to properly set up villains? Just because he isnt' following some cookie cutter plot at the moment.

Crocodile, Arlong, Lucci, Ennu, Blackbeard, etc etc were set up perfectly and uniquely. Give the man time no one knows what he plans to do.

Why would anyone want One piece to be like DBZ in any way!?!?
 
josephdebono said:
I'm thinking, Jimbe warned Luffy not to fight Hodi because he know he can kick his ass, but if he does so, it would be like Luffy is a Fishman hater after crushing Arlong and then his inherited will as well. Jimbe perhaps feels responsible and wants to make amends himself or something...
Jimbe's warning was probably that defeating Hodi will summon the real arc villain.
 
Yeah, uh, unfortunately the OP translator for at least the last few chapters has been pretty awful. Until they get someone else I get the feeling there's going to be a lots of mistranslations going around. :\
 
One Piece 618

It was awesome, as usual. I appreciate the fact that it isn't going to be a complete walk in the park and after reading the correct translation from Ap, things are looking pretty different now. Hopefully, Hodi isn't truly strong, but the people who support him are just using him as a front. The scapegoat, since the octopus swordman even said he follows whoever pays the most. Blah, idk, I'm excited for next week.
 
Squall ASF said:
The problem with this is that Oda doesn't know how to properly display how bad ass they are because he didn't set up the villains better. DBZ did it right, show the ginyuu force destroy the other fighters including Vegita who was pretty strong up till then to really emphasize how strong the enemies were so that when Goku came and one shot Recume, it was a big deal. Zoro one shot Hodi, good, because Hodi is a scrub so he should. Doesn't emphasize how strong Zoro actually is because none of us respect Hodi in the first place. How many posts have we had talking about how weak Hodi is, that he needs drugs to have any sort of power, etc.? You need some kind of build up for the enemies, make them look badass and strong before the protagonists crush them if you really want to display the protag's new found strength.
Why the Hell does Hodi have to be strong? You think this nobody villain should destroy a few Strawhats first?

I think you're missing the point, they may be strong but they won't compare to Luffy or Zoro for the time being
 
RagnarokX said:
Jimbe's warning was probably that defeating Hodi will summon the real arc villain.

I get the feeling Jimbe's warning was to protect Hodi, not because defeating Hodi will summon some real boss, but rather that Hodi is rash and misguided but he doesn't deserve a pummeling to near-death that Luffy would easily give him.

It probably all relates back to the Queen and for all we know Hodi is the queen's son and real successor and Jimbe wants to keep him from harm.
 
Doc Holliday said:
How you can say Oda doen't know how to properly set up villains? Just because he isnt' following some cookie cutter plot at the moment.

Crocodile, Arlong, Lucci, Ennu, Blackbeard, etc etc were set up perfectly and uniquely. Give the man time no one knows what he plans to do.

Why would anyone want One piece to be like DBZ in any way!?!?

You need to read Kreed's comment and then my comment again in context of replying to what he said. I'm not saying that Oda doesn't know how to do villians. My comment was in regards to if this arc settled with the end result being Vanderdecken and Hodi getting slaughtered instantly as Kreed implied ( with no stronger enemies coming). I personally agree with others on here that there are stronger villains that will come out during this arc and that Hodi and Vanderdecken are the small fry so build up isn't really required for them.
 
Yoboman said:
Why the Hell does Hodi have to be strong? You think this nobody villain should destroy a few Strawhats first?

I think you're missing the point, they may be strong but they won't compare to Luffy or Zoro for the time being

Hmm I guess I just worded it poorly because both of you misinterpreted what I was saying. Reading back, yeah, I didn't phrase it correctly.
 
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