Hollywood Hitman
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9.9k on a Friday night, man that seems low af 
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Fake
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Look at that fucking asshole, it angers me just to see these shitty characters
Funny how they call 'fans are review bombing' instead of 'chuds' or 'haters'.
Is this a Hogwarts Legacy situation?
falconhoof
Member
9.9k on a Friday night, man that seems low af
You're wrong. It's 13.8K, oh no, wait sorry I was reading D2 numbers.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Huge ratings bombing. Down to 83.27%. Literally dropped almost 0.40% overnight by only 1k additional reviews. Yesterday was 49k, now 50k.
Will do final recap in an hour when it settles. But looks like it'll be about flat vs yesterday's 12.1k. It was actually up fine all day, but USA tanked. At 4 pm est Euro hour it was up 10%.
Plague Doctor
Member
Clearly that number is too low for a live service game from company the size of Bungie. Makes sense why they would shut it down.
Imagine if it was less than that?
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falconhoof
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Marathon wishes it could see a 14k CCU peak.
StreetsofBeige
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Peaked at 11.8k. Huge drop in review ratings. Now at 83.27%, dropping almost 40 pts. ARC now way higher at 83.60%
All time peak was launch day 88.3k. Today's peak at 11.8k is -76.5k or -87%
Today vs yesterday: 11.8k vs 12.1k (-0.3k or -2.5%)
Yesterday's low 3.5k. If the rate holds, low tonight will be 3.4k. But it's Friday night, might be more like 4.2k
Fri vs Fri: k 11.8vs 13.1k (-1.3k or -10%). Trending lately is about -5 to -15% since early May
Ratio method to estimate peaks and valleys
Mon-Thur 3.3:1. For example, a peak of 12k will have a low of 3.6k. For Fri/Sat, gamers stay up playing so the ratio is 2.5:1
Steam Rankings
Daily Active Users: 163
Global Top Sellers: 189
Weekly Top Sellers: Unknown. Not on top 100
Top Rated Games: 6,432 (83.27%)
All time peak was launch day 88.3k. Today's peak at 11.8k is -76.5k or -87%
Today vs yesterday: 11.8k vs 12.1k (-0.3k or -2.5%)
Yesterday's low 3.5k. If the rate holds, low tonight will be 3.4k. But it's Friday night, might be more like 4.2k
Fri vs Fri: k 11.8vs 13.1k (-1.3k or -10%). Trending lately is about -5 to -15% since early May
Ratio method to estimate peaks and valleys
Mon-Thur 3.3:1. For example, a peak of 12k will have a low of 3.6k. For Fri/Sat, gamers stay up playing so the ratio is 2.5:1
Steam Rankings
Daily Active Users: 163
Global Top Sellers: 189
Weekly Top Sellers: Unknown. Not on top 100
Top Rated Games: 6,432 (83.27%)
ChorizoPicozo
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Some people here... Cof Cof Men_In_Boxes could think that Sony is choosing Marathon over Destiny because they see more potential... Of course is very stoopid to think that. It's very clear to see that Marathon (Escape from Roblox) is way cheaper to keep around.. In other words:
Sony knows Bungie doesn't have a future, so why commit?
Spend as little as possible until they make the public execution.
So.. It's like.. You are gonna eat shit regardless.... Better to eat the least amount until we get over it
Kronark
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Some people here... Cof Cof Men_In_Boxes could think that Sony is choosing Marathon over Destiny because they see more potential... Of course is very stoopid to think that. It's very clear to see that Marathon (Escape from Roblox) is way cheaper to keep around.. In other words:
Sony knows Bungie doesn't have a future, so why commit?
Spend as little as possible until they make the public execution.
So.. It's like.. You are gonna eat shit regardless.... Better to eat the least amount until we get over it
If it's true they rejected an expansion themed around Xivu Arath and doubled down on their Star Wars garbage, I'm even madder at Bungie leadership. Taken King and Witch Queen are two of the most beloved expansions in the Destiny franchise and Xivu Arath would have completed the trilogy of the Hive siblings and their fates. Not to mention Crown of Sorrow was the only new Hive themed raid in Destiny 2 and it got fucking vaulted a year after it came out. King's Fall and Crota's End are the only others and they were from Destiny 1 and over 10 years old. Absolutely moronic behaviour from Bungie as usual.
OuterLimits
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Marathon wishes it could see a 14k CCU peak.
Damn, Destiny 2 may significantly outperform Marathon in June when it gets the final update and Marathon starts season 2.
Hell, it probably already is considering console players actually play Destiny 2.
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MayauMiao
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9.9k on a Friday night, man that seems low af
Hey now, its Friday so maybe they went on a date or picking up hot women at some bars.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
That's 100% it.
Marathon can do Destiny.
Destiny can't do Marathon.
Back in late March / early April I was telling all the Marathon bros in the OT that Marathon was a restaurant that only served raw veal. Great for people who like raw veal, but not a particularly great menu if you're a restaurant that wants to make money.
Bungie is now adding burgers and pizza to their menu.
The framework of Marathon/Extraction is just objectively better than the Destiny framework.
Darchaos
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It already is and always has been, yes. And that is good and how it should be.
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ValiantInstance
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They didn't double down on it, they gave the dreaded vote of confidence.
Moridianae
Member
Oh, so according to
Men_in_Boxes
they(Sony) are going to eat that massive loss, end evelopment on a game, lay off a bunch of people and *reinvest* for a Final Fantasy XIV-style complete overhaul over time on a game that has lost 80%+ of it's playerbase.Really? You are certain of this?
What are you smoking? I'll take two.
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diffusionx
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tfw you realize about 50%-75% of blast havers have left the game
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
No. Nothing like that.Oh, so according to
Really? You are certain of this?
What are you smoking? I'll take two.
They'll just do what Hunt Showdown and Escape from Tarkov did. Improve the game and watch the CCU grow.
clarky
Gold Member
I don't come into this thread often but are you really still banging on about raw veal?
You put me off baby cows for life at launch can we at least change the food stuff? How about Foie Gras?
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
You got to admit, Bungie kind of agreed with me there. My own people (the Marathon bros) persecuted me because I told the truth. My therapist made a lot of money listening to my raw veal argument.
I would like Foie Gras but I'd prefer if they served them partially or mostly alive.
Madserb2023
Member
So there is no more content for Destiny 2. They weren't working on a Destiny 3. So with a company the size of Bungie they made a game that launched with just three maps with a tenth the content of Destiny 1. Whether you like Marathon or not, there is a definite scam here.
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Roman Empire
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With all the Bungie news and everything. I feel like how when we burned the Erdtree in Elden Ring or how Dottore felt with the Irminsul burning in Genshin. It's glorious:
falconhoof
Member
I think D2 is going to smash the fuck out of Marathon. I can even see the game obliterating Marathon's 88k CCU peak in June, fuck it, I can see it doubling Marathon's peak.
People are going to come back to D2 to enjoy a final moment, even if the game isn't what it was. It was still the place that millions of people enjoyed. Marathon doesn't have that.
Plague Doctor
Member
The entire studio will now be devoted to making the best looking nerf guns and super soaker 2000s for Marathon.
We might even get skins that will look totally perfect for a Jaguar commercial.
This little Niche Extraction Shooter is going AAAA, if not AAAAA. Destiny 2 was only AAA.
All for the sweats to shoot each other and the 6 thousand other enjoyers.
Fuck you Destiny 2 fans. Fuck you.
We have Vaulted the future.
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Venzik
Member
Oh, so according to
Sony could fart out enough money in their sleep to change Marathon into a VR baseball waifu extraction gacha overnight....
Let's not be too hasty...
M_i_B never said bungie would be successfull.
He said Marathon would.
mdkirby
Gold Member
Sony should just have all of bungie and a small group from naughty dog wrap up factions 2. Then have naughty dog wash their hands of it whilst bungie support the game.Oh, so according to
Really? You are certain of this?
What are you smoking? I'll take two.
It was apparently great and close to finished, and it was bungie who told them to stop, as supporting a GaaS such as that would mean naughty dog would have to stop making single player games. It would be fitting.
It would also give bungie a purpose given their own games are basically dead men walking, if they start something new it'll be more than half a decade before it sees the light of day, and even then it may have no interest, tons of people were excited about factions. It seems an easy decision.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I have been blessed. And I'm not even religious!@StreetsofBeige
Let it be known I grace the Marathon gods for giving me the opportunity to entertain and enlighten more people than who actually play the game itself.
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Hero_Select
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Today 1 pm completed hour (yesterday USA peak was 12.1k).
Today 8.9k
Yesterday 7.9k, peaked at 11.8k. Peak is 1.50x 1 pm. Peak today would be 13.3k (8.9k x 1.50)
Last Sat 9.8k, peaked at 12.6k. Peak is 1.29x 1 pm. Peak would be 11.5k (8.9k x 1.29)
Marathon's CCUs skew to cryo days where weekends tail off. Almost every other top Steam game (doesnt matter which region of the world it's popular in) has weekend peaks more than Thurs/Fri.
Ballpark estimate today should be about 11.4-11.8k. Historically, every Saturday has been lower than Fri by a handful of %.
Today 8.9k
Yesterday 7.9k, peaked at 11.8k. Peak is 1.50x 1 pm. Peak today would be 13.3k (8.9k x 1.50)
Last Sat 9.8k, peaked at 12.6k. Peak is 1.29x 1 pm. Peak would be 11.5k (8.9k x 1.29)
Marathon's CCUs skew to cryo days where weekends tail off. Almost every other top Steam game (doesnt matter which region of the world it's popular in) has weekend peaks more than Thurs/Fri.
Ballpark estimate today should be about 11.4-11.8k. Historically, every Saturday has been lower than Fri by a handful of %.
CrustyBritches
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Yikes
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Zacfoldor
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Majima Everywhere System
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I'm sorry, but none of the incomprehensible words in this paragraph would have saved Destiny. I played Destiny 1, 2, and maybe even an expansion and none of this means a damn.
There are pitches that could have worked, I would be willing to go into Destiny 2 or 3, but it has nothing to do with Xanu Artemis or whoever.
Sony was right to pass on this shit. What works is bigger, badder, and more badass. I don't know what this means for Destiny, but I and Sony would know it when we saw it. Open world? New vehicles? New multi modes? Factions? I don't think loot or raids meant much to me, that's what drove the current player base.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Sony doing the good 'ol desperate gambler routine.Yikes
1. Lost tons of money already
2. Instead of going home calling it quits, actually takes out more money to fund all night gambling
3. Takes his last wad of cash from the ATM and goes to the nearest table putting all of it on a long shot loser bet
Go big or go home. The type of gambler who only goes home when every last dime is spent.
On the other hand, the times I rarely go to the track or Vegas, I'll browse bets with my whopping $150. Once that is done, I'm done. Time to just chill and grab some food. If I had Sony's mentality, I'd be logging into the closest ATM for more money every hour till my account says $0.
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falconhoof
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Marathon last hit 15K CCU briefly on May 9th.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Sony doesn't have a fuckin clue, and this is proof. Seeing fanboys continue to suck them off for their record profits after they flushed a whole gen chasing the GAAS dragon is repulsive. They piss this money away then raise prices on their customers for their own mistakes. Even looking at my PS5 Pro makes me disgusted. I think I'm going to put a paper bag over it's head from now on.
Thebonehead
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Hero of Spielberg
Member
Destiny can't kill a studio in a few months. Marathon can.
falconhoof
Member
Saturday UTC time is over
Whilst Marathon did see a weekend uptick getting a DAU midpoint just above 100k again, it still got crushed by D2. I think June is going to be interesting to watch with the final update arriving for Destiny and Marathon getting its season 2 launch.
EDIT: Not that the way I have to extract this data from graph points means it can lose a few numbers due to the resolution of it and D2 did get above 16K CCU today though the numbers here show it just below.
Whilst Marathon did see a weekend uptick getting a DAU midpoint just above 100k again, it still got crushed by D2. I think June is going to be interesting to watch with the final update arriving for Destiny and Marathon getting its season 2 launch.
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| Game | Date UTC | Coverage h | Avg CCU | Peak CCU | Player-hours | DAU range | DAU midpoint |
| Destiny 2 | Sat 2026-05-23 | 24.0 | 12,196 | 15,997 | 292,709 | 97,570-234,167 | 146,355 |
| Marathon | Sat 2026-05-23 | 24.0 | 8,342 | 11,795 | 200,209 | 66,736-160,167 | 100,105 |EDIT: Not that the way I have to extract this data from graph points means it can lose a few numbers due to the resolution of it and D2 did get above 16K CCU today though the numbers here show it just below.
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Kronark
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I think there's a lot of gameplay and design decisions Bungie fucked up that burned the community and doomed the game. The game became too hardcore, too grindy, too streamer focused, and it lost it's casual entry points with the vaulting of the introduction campaigns and associated stories so new players were kind of lost. I promise you a lot of people who were there and walked away still really care about the world / IP of Destiny. Players were fed up with the state of the game around Lightfall and I saw player after player basically commit to come back for the final expansion just to experience it then dip, and they did just that. CCU counts show that the Final Shape did about as well as a prior expansions in terms of player activity, but under performed financially because none of these people were buying eververse items or the season / dungeon pass. They came to see the thing they loved through to the end and then leave. I don't think players who hate a game's world or IP do that.
You might not personally care about Xivu Arath but Bungie had been building the character up for years through seasonal story telling. The Hive were by far the most fleshed out race lore wise and two of the game's best critically received expansions were about the other two Hive siblings (Witch Queen / Taken King). The Witch Queen explicitly made news headlines for how good it's campaign and story telling were:
Destiny 2: The Witch Queen Review - Yes, It’s Better Than The Taken King
Destiny 2's The Witch Queen is it best expansion ever and a better campaign than even the vanilla D1 and D2.
www.forbes.com
The Witch Queen Is The Best Campaign Destiny's Ever Had - Kotaku
Destiny 2: The Witch Queen stands on its own as a great Bungie first-person shooter campaign
kotaku.com
Destiny 2: The Witch Queen Review - The One That'll Pull You Back In
Destiny 2 plays phenomenally, and the balance The Witch Queen strikes makes it an ideal place to jump back in. I won’t be putting it down for a long time.
cogconnected.com
It was a genuine high point after years of mediocrity with the Shadowkeep and Beyond Light expansions basically doing their monster of the week style forgettable story telling. The campaign was interesting, involved critically relevant major story events / characters at the time, and offered genuine motivation beyond "get the mcguffin" style story telling. Casual players finally got to be part of critically relevant story events, instead of having them relegated to the raid or lore events outside of their participation. It's one of the best campaigns Bungie has ever produced and it was worth the price on the package itself. I would not say that about most other Destiny expansions with their forgettable and irrelevant campaigns.
Part of what burned player sentiment around the next expansion Lightfall so badly was just how stupid and poor the story was in comparison to the Witch Queen. The community had been hyped up, basically told this was the penultimate story moment. Lightfall was supposed to be the Infinity War of Destiny after 10 years of build up. Instead what we got was a find the mcguffin adventure with poochie on a space surf board in a neon city that made no sense. We needed to find the "veil" because it would help us defeat the big baddie. What is the veil and what does it do? We're not telling you that yet tee hee hee, you'll have to keep playing the seasonal content to find out. What an absolute wet shart of an expansion for what players had been waiting 10 years for, especially after the Witch Queen. It was basically proof that no matter how many times things looked good for Destiny, Bungie would still fuck up the next thing. This was the cherry on top of a lot of other greviences with the game for most players and ultimately when the momentum flipped against Bungie.
Xivu Arath could have been a re-enty point for those players. It was one of the few things left that I think Bungie could actually entice former Destiny players with and there are even news articles about this leak and how disappointing it is that Bungie never explored this direction ( https://www.polygon.com/destiny-xivu-arath-ending/ ). There of course would have been a whole host of other changes needed to make good on the state of the game and entice people but if I heard Bungie had actually worked on unvaulting content like the old raids / campaigns, worked on making the game less hardcore focused (More of the rewards structure tilted toward casual / medium core play), and were doing a badass Xivu Arath campaign on par with the Witch Queen or Taken King? Shit I'd have been there day one. Instead we got Star Wars because dipshit leadership wanted a cash grab tie in. The general reaction I saw from most of the community was why the fuck are you ruining the IP / universe of Destiny by shoving lightsabers into it? It had the opposite effect. People didn't go ohhh star wars, I love star wars... They were offended that Destiny was going to be ruined by having all this non universe shit shoved into it.
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StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Came in at the low end of the range. Peaked at 11.4k. Steam ratings still dropping. Almost down to the 82's
All time peak was launch day 88.3k. Today's peak at 11.4k is -76.9k or -87%
Today vs yesterday: 11.4k vs 11.8k (-0.4k or -3%)
Yesterday's low 4.4k. If the rate holds, low tonight will be 4.3k
Sat vs Sat: 11.4k vs 12.6k (-1.2k or -9.5%). Trending lately is about -5 to -15% since early May
Ratio method to estimate peaks and valleys
Mon-Thur 3.3:1. For example, a peak of 12k will have a low of 3.6k. For Fri/Sat, gamers stay up playing so the ratio is 2.5:1
Steam Rankings
Daily Active Users: 163
Global Top Sellers: 186
Weekly Top Sellers: Unknown. Not on top 100
Top Rated Games: 6,501 (83.16%)
Boss at Bungie: So, tell me about the numbers on Marathon.
Random: Well, boss, we are losing to Destiny 2. We are trying different things to get publico now.
Boss: I have an idea
*ends development for Destiny 2*
StreetsofBeige
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