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Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Gameplay/Pre-Launch Discussion Thread
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This is why Big Band is my favorite character in Skullgirls.
Bunch of super-cheap preorders got Dino Crisis'd.
It's Europe region only so if you are NA and you ordered CDkeys, better get the refunds quick.
Spider Man BnB from Killer Kai:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r7CBtlCiiQ
And some Iron Man swag:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcVYjvC40fo
Jeff Stephen
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I knew that $24 deal a week ago was too good to be true.
ZeroTheShadow
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I got it. Man movement is butt. If you try to WD traditionally you'll get random dd moves you try to do f+Lp+Hp d you get random supers. You can ONLY dash with two punches too. I though maybe if I tried dashing with LK+HP I could avoid the random supers but no.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
That's definitely good news so it would give people who have those five costumes a sense of entitlement of "exclusive" for few months I suppose. Why I think it's a good news since it would give us a hope that Captain Marvel potentially getting Ms. Marvel (OG) costume.
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I really like former one but I know it's more likely to be latter one tho.
HelloNewman
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Man just like Injustice 2 feels like I'm the only guy on Neogaf with an xbox one lol. : (
TheTylerRob
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Do you have to wavedash slower or something?
PS4's are cheap nowadays. You could do a trade-in.
HelloNewman
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I got to many games digitally on Xbox to get rid of it plus all my movies and tv shows.
from where?! i'm dying over here
ZeroTheShadow
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That but there is more to it. Check my updated post.
No. You're supposed to just WD with down+forward/back instead of down in this game.
So something like f+LPHP, df, f+LPHP, df, repeat.
Yea, submit a support ticket and for the category just select Refund. That's what I did and stated I wanted a refund. They refunded me later on.
I sent them an email this morning (with my order #) after gaf made me aware the amazing deal on cdkeys was indeed too good to be true ;(
They refunded my money promptly.
ZeroTheShadow
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Basic Zero BnB. Full corner carry 5700 some odd damage builds a bar.
Charging, c.LK, HP, f+HP, f+HK, qcf+LK, buster cancel, dash, f+HP, dd+HP, buster cancel, dash f+HP, c.HP, j.LK, j.lK, HP, HK, f+HP, buster cancel, dd+Lp+Hp
Charging, c.LK, HP, f+HP, f+HK, qcf+LK, buster cancel, dash, f+HP, dd+HP, buster cancel, dash f+HP, c.HP, j.LK, j.lK, HP, HK, f+HP, buster cancel, dd+Lp+Hp
ZeroTheShadow
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You do that you will get a super.
I don't know if it's what he meant, but you wave dash marvel 2 style, canceling with down. You have to let the animation rock a little longer than usual for it to be worth while though, otherwise you cancel the dash to early and you don't get the distance you want.
I've been working on this for a while, but I thought I could compile all of the Fox ban nonsense into one post. Keep in mind that everything in the first quoted post below was as of June 14th, 2016.
However, as of October 2016, Bill Rosemann (VP of Marvel Games) made this post on Twitter.
TL;DR: The lack of X-Men & Fantastic Four characters in MvCI's base roster (& likely the 2017 Character Pass) is NOT Capcom's fault, but rather the fault of the higher-ups at Marvel Entertainment (likely Ike Perlmutter, if you want to get specific).
Marvel legally has the rights to give developers access to their entire cast of characters thanks to Activision's hold on certain franchises (the X-Men for example) expiring back in 2014. The only license Activision has left is the Spider-Man movie tie-in license, which expires next year. This isn't a matter of Marvel not being able to use X-Men & Fantastic Four characters, it's the fact that they don't want to. Marvel's been trying to minimize the exposure of the X-Men & the Fantastic Four in an attempt to lower the popularity of both properties (which would in turn screw over Fox). Within the last few years, Marvel has had a bit of a feud with 20th Century Fox over the properties they still hold the movie rights for (the X-Men & the Fantastic Four). It grew to the point where, after the release of Marvel: Contest of Champions (the mobile Injustice knock-off by Kablam), Marvel imposed a complete ban on all X-Men & Fantastic Four characters in games made after Contest of Champions. One of the first victims of the ban was Marvel Mighty Heroes, whose developer (DeNA) had this to say on the matter.
To clarify what this ban means....
As for the timeline on how this has affected post-CoC games...
- As stated earlier, all new games made after Contest of Champions are not allowed to use any X-Men & Fantastic Four characters. This includes the likes of Wolverine, Deadpool, Doctor Doom, Cyclops, Jean Grey/Phoenix, X-23, Storm, Magneto, Super-Skrull, Sentinel, & more.
- Games made before the ban with active contracts, like Marvel Heroes (the PC MMO), can add whoever they want until their current contracts expires (Ex: Gazillion's existing contract with Marvel expires in 2019).
- Remasters &/or ports of older games can be re-released untouched (Ex: The Deadpool remaster for PS4 & XB1).
- The Maximoff Twins, Quicksilver (Pietro Maximoff) & Scarlet Witch (Wanda Maximoff), are only allowed on a case-by-case basis (Ex: Lego Marvel's Avengers). Only their comic book & MCU incarnations can be used in the event that Marvel allows a developer to use one or both of the Twins, & zero references to their X-Men history can be made. They've also been banned from games more times than not, but their inclusion in certain games isn't impossible.
- Avengers Alliance 2: No X-Men, No Fantastic Four, No Maximoff Twins
- Avengers Academy: No X-Men, No Fantastic Four, No Maximoff Twins
- Lego Marvel's Avengers: The Maximoff Twins are present, No X-Men, No Fantastic Four
- Marvel Mighty Heroes: No X-Men, No Fantastic Four, No Maximoff Twins
- Marvel Future Fight: No X-Men, No Fantastic Four, No Maximoff Twins
- Disney Infinity 2.0 & 3.0: No X-Men, No Fantastic Four, No Maximoff Twins
However, as of October 2016, Bill Rosemann (VP of Marvel Games) made this post on Twitter.
This led many to speculate that maybe the end of the X-Men part of the ban was upon us. And as of June 2017, we started to see Marvel Entertainment reel back on their X-Men restrictions for games when Marvel Future Fight finally added X-Men characters to the roster. This lines up with what Ryce reported around the time of MvCI's initial reveal.Bill Rosemann said:Who loves the #XMen? @MarvelGames loves the #XMen! #ResurrXion
But given that we know that MvCI's development started as far back as Summer 2015, Marvel Entertainment's change-of-heart was too late to have any impact on MvCI's base roster or the 2017 Character Pass. That being said, even though the X-Men are starting to come back in Marvel games, the Fantastic Four are now more screwed over than ever. Marvel Heroes, one of the games made before the ban even started, recently had to remove all Fantastic Four characters with the exception of Doctor Doom (likely since he was the main villain of the game). While the Ryce post implies that Capcom made the DLC deal with Marvel before they doubled down on the F4 ban, we're still talking about a rumor in Ryce's case. And as such, this recent development throws the chances of Doctor Doom & Kl'rt/Super-Skrull joining the MvCI roster into question.
TL;DR: The lack of X-Men & Fantastic Four characters in MvCI's base roster (& likely the 2017 Character Pass) is NOT Capcom's fault, but rather the fault of the higher-ups at Marvel Entertainment (likely Ike Perlmutter, if you want to get specific).
You don't if you never hit down.
Still weird how the last Season 1 Capcom character isn't there.
ElBoxyBrown
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I'm sure people know at this point the lack of X-Men and F4 is Marvel. Anyone who still thinks it's Capcom isn't doing any research.
I'm going to be #TeamMeio until then even with the story mode leaks.
Thanks, Neoxon.
Makes me think how modern-day MvC has been subjected to so much Corporate decision influence and design. MvC3 was authorized around the time when Marvel was really pushing their Phase 1 stuff. (AKA getting people hyped for The Avengers 1, introducing them to these characters). The MCU was pretty much Iron Man, Cap, Black Widow, and Thor. The inclusion of the X-Men didn't include the likes of Cyclops, Gambit, Venom etc., but looking back it's almost a miracle Wolvie, Storm, Dr. Doom, Magneto were in at all. Bet Seth Killian had a big hand in that (with Sentinel's return directly affected by him).
It's all about the new hotness, and pushing the latest product, which is why you get Rocket, Iron Fist, Nova, for Ulitmate. And why were getting Thanos, Gamora, Ultron, and Black Panther. The X-ban being a symptom of that is probably my least favorite aspect of these games going forward. But, on the plus side, it DOES introduce new faces and creates new fan-favorites.
Makes me think how modern-day MvC has been subjected to so much Corporate decision influence and design. MvC3 was authorized around the time when Marvel was really pushing their Phase 1 stuff. (AKA getting people hyped for The Avengers 1, introducing them to these characters). The MCU was pretty much Iron Man, Cap, Black Widow, and Thor. The inclusion of the X-Men didn't include the likes of Cyclops, Gambit, Venom etc., but looking back it's almost a miracle Wolvie, Storm, Dr. Doom, Magneto were in at all. Bet Seth Killian had a big hand in that (with Sentinel's return directly affected by him).
It's all about the new hotness, and pushing the latest product, which is why you get Rocket, Iron Fist, Nova, for Ulitmate. And why were getting Thanos, Gamora, Ultron, and Black Panther. The X-ban being a symptom of that is probably my least favorite aspect of these games going forward. But, on the plus side, it DOES introduce new faces and creates new fan-favorites.
Keep reading, I mentioned the F4 part later in the post. The initial quote was as of June 2016.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Marvel also didn't want Magneto and Storm in 3. Seth had to fight for them too.
ZeroTheShadow
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Omg you guys are so dumb. It is not like Marvel 2. Read my post.
I'm done posting about the game. This is ridiculous.
Except it is like Marvel 2. But instead of explaining what your issue is you just call people dumb.
It's rollback & impressions seem positive, but we should wait until the game actually comes out for people to try out the netcode under actual stress.
Mechanized
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Is the CDKeys issue with just current keys or all of them? When I pre-ordered on the 11th it showed the region as global.
People say it's good but it's way too early on any type of concensus.
I expect "ITS GREAT! (until your opponents are playing on WiFi and you blame the netcode)".
I usually take what you say with a grain of salt since you have a tendency to overreact to things and blow it out of proportion.
A wise choice.
Thanks. I guess the jury's still out on the online so until then I'll go physical over digital.
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