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[DeepEnigma]

No one ask for photo realistic we asked for next gen experience not just iterative upgrade as digital foundry said , rift apart looks next gen upgrade, that's what we want for spiderman 2

What's a next-gen experience? Explain.

 

[Turk1993]

That spiderman movie suit looks way better than their own suits in the game. I thought that shot was from the movie lol.

I took my own shot back in the day. looks amazing even on the PS4.

i have no idea how people can look at that awful venom suit and think this looks a generation ahead. Even the miles suit in Spiderman Miles look better than these ones.

Yeah it really looks nothing like that in the game, i also took some shots back in the day on my PS4Pro and it looked like this

I've never had a ps4 pro so I had to search on YouTube. The screenshots do not look different from the game sans blurring effects, which I actually think takes away from the image.

Bruh come on look up lol, and they are all from photomode

 

[ChiefDada]

Yeah it really looks nothing like that in the game, i also took some shots back in the day on my PS4Pro and it looked like this

Bruh come on look up lol, and they are all from photomode

Maybe I don't understand your definition of bullshot. One thing I knew to look for in your photos, particularly last 2, were the textures and shading of the standard spidey suit. I knew immediately it was from the non remastered game because of the texture inferiority and ugly, orange like tone. As far as geometry, i am aware that insomniac no longer uses different in game models for cutscene vs gameplay since miles morales but even here, i do not see any uplift in character geometry. Also be aware that photo mode is still being rendered on the gpu in real time.

 

[Msamy]

What's a next-gen experience? Explain.

Next gen graphics and gameplay, and here mainly I am talking about graphics

 

[DeepEnigma]

Next gen graphics and gameplay

Explain what that is.

 

[Represent.]

Nobody in here is saying its the next coming of jesus in graphics, but it also does not mean it looks bad, I don't have to agree to a bad opinion, you earn respect you don't just get it

It straight up looks like a PS4 game. It does look bad. Just admit it.

Those are bullshots man, Insomniac always show some high quality enhanced bullshots with added effects.

This was there PS4 Pro shots for the OG game lol

When the PS4 PRO bullshots look a generation ahead of the PS5 Bullshots... You know they done FUCKED up. Wow.

 

[ChiefDada]

Next gen graphics and gameplay

When someone asks you to define a term, you should never use said term in your answer lol.

 

[PeteBull]

It straight up looks like a PS4 game. It does look bad. Just admit it.

When the PS4 PRO bullshots look a generation ahead of the PS5 Bullshots... You know they done FUCKED up. Wow.

Savage

 

[ChiefDada]

When the PS4 PRO bullshots look a generation ahead of the PS5 Bullshots... You know they done FUCKED up. Wow.

Lol Stop the madness you all have gone completely off the reservation now!

 

[Msamy]

Explain what that is.

Easy I want game that looks close to this in lighting , textures, character models

not game that looks like this shit

 

[arkhamguy123]

Boom! Graphical fidelity in an actual shipped game not a demo. Thanks!

This is not the checkmate you think it is man

 

[DeepEnigma]

Easy I want game that looks close to this in lighting , textures, character models

not game that looks like this shit

But that's a cross-gen game.

 

[Turk1993]

Maybe I don't understand your definition of bullshot. One thing I knew to look for in your photos, particularly last 2, were the textures and shading of the standard spidey suit. I knew immediately it was from the non remastered game because of the texture inferiority and ugly, orange like tone. As far as geometry, i am aware that insomniac no longer uses different in game models for cutscene vs gameplay since miles morales but even here, i do not see any uplift in character geometry. Also be aware that photo mode is still being rendered on the gpu in real time.

Just look at the Rami suite, don't you see the difference in quality vs the real game. And also look at the webshooters and the quality of the motion blur on them which is not even in the games photomode. They enhanced the fuck out of those shots as always and they are not a good indication of how the games gonna look.

 

[Msamy]

But that's a cross-gen game.

Yes cross gen game which look better rhan that shit showcase which nit even match that cross gen game

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yes cross which look better yhan that shit showcase which even match that cross gen game

But that's not next-gen. It's still a cross-gen game.

So what's next-gen graphics and gameplay?

 

[PeteBull]

Gyazo

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[Msamy]

But that's not next-gen. It's still a cross-gen game.

So what's next-gen graphics and gameplay?

Go see burning shores , you may understand

 

[John Wick]

It straight up looks like a PS4 game. It does look bad. Just admit it.

When the PS4 PRO bullshots look a generation ahead of the PS5 Bullshots... You know they done FUCKED up. Wow.

You haven't even seen the final game but where shown an unknown build of a game still in development, yet they fucked up? I mean are you really that stupid some of you? It's been stated by various developers that the spit and polish happens in the final months of development. The game will look and perform better.

 

[Msamy]

But that's not next-gen. It's still a cross-gen game.

So what's next-gen graphics and gameplay?

Horizon burning shores looks way better than ps4 version , and if you don't see that's your problem

 

[Represent.]

PS4 Bullshot

Real PS5.

Insomniac cannot be trusted anymore until the game comes out and I judge for myself. Im not listening to anything they say about "early build".

This is egregious.

I dare anyone to look at these shots and say they can trust this developer.

Talent has left the studio.

 

[Msamy]

You haven't even seen the final game but where shown an unknown build of a game still in development, yet they fucked up? I mean are you really that stupid some of you? It's been stated by various developers that the spit and polish happens in the final months of development. The qgame will look and perform better.

I keep saying if the final build looks better I will be happy but currently I am not

 

[93xfan]

Easy I want game that looks close to this in lighting , textures, character models

not game that looks like this shit

But Horizon 2 doesn’t have a full city and need for ray traced reflections on buildings. Not nearly as many NPCs on screen in H2

 

[Msamy]

But Horizon 2 doesn’t have a full city and need for ray traced reflections on buildings. Not nearly as many NPCs on screen in H2

So I am must be convinced by this shit because of that

 

[DeepEnigma]

Horizon burning shores looks way better than ps4 version , and if you don't see that's your problem

Yes, but it's still a cross gen game/engine.

So what's next gen gameplay?

 

[John Wick]

I am the one who make this thears so please get your shit out of here

You made this thread to complain about a game still in development. Why don't you save yourself from being embarrassed and wait till the actual game comes out then cry like a bitch?
Save yourself some further embarrassment by not comparing it to an on rails demo. There is a huge difference between unreal engine demos and actual shipped games.

 

[Mr Moose]

Easy I want game that looks close to this in lighting , textures, character models

not game that looks like this shit

That's different art direction and not "next gen", Horizon is at its base a PS4 game.
Look at what Naughty Dog did with TLoU 2 on PS4, the models look really good.
You can like one art style more than the other, that's fine.
Spider-Man on PS4 looks Amazing Spider-Man imo.

 

[John Wick]

No one want next gen generation graphics in switch , also you either don't read the theard title or come to here to talk just bullshit

So why aren't you gaming on PC exclusively? It has the best and next gen graphics. Why are you wasting everyone's time about SM2 and PS5? You should have a 4090 PC.

 

[midnightAI]

Imagine taking the time out of your day to create this cringe image and post it....
With that, this thread is going on ignore.

It's probably for the best, the hyperbole in here is off the chart, (guessing mods are having a day off with some of the warring going on)

 

[midnightAI]

Those are bullshots man, Insomniac always show some high quality enhanced bullshots with added effects.

This was there PS4 Pro shots for the OG game lol

It's called 'photo mode'

 

[John Wick]

It's absolutely embarrassing.

Remember when you seen HFW and were complaining about how shit it looked while in development??? It's crossgen...........
Don't learn eh?

 

[SlimySnake]

Yeah it really looks nothing like that in the game, i also took some shots back in the day on my PS4Pro and it looked like this

Bruh come on look up lol, and they are all from photomode

Needs hero lighting. Thats what is making the suit pop in cutscenes. The silver linings are glowing/reflecting in cutscenes only.

Crazy that Horizon came out over a year ago, and ND, SSM, and Insomniac are sleeping on this. GOW looks more or less fine without hero lighting but TLOU looks straight up bad in some areas where characters kind of blend in to the environments despite them supposedly using cutscene quality character models.

 

[hyperbertha]

Are you stupid? Watch Dogs reveal was clearly proven to not be real gameplay even though it looked like gameplay. It's not my fault you believe those initial reveals were gameplay of those systems when it clearly wasn't

Ok I get it. You got your ass whooped due to your outlandish claim that those games weren't real gameplay, and now resort to trolling to ignore the fact that you just turned into a laughing stock.
Here this everyone, mister John wick thinks the ghost of tsushima and tlou 2 gameplay demos were not real gameplay. Just in engine trailers like the Spiderman teaser.

 

[hyperbertha]

Yes, but it's still a cross gen game/engine.

So what's next gen gameplay?

Fucking let the devs figure it out. Whatever next gen gameplay is, it's not the exact same as previous gen gameplay. Nuff said.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Fucking let the devs figure it out. Whatever next gen gameplay is, it's not the exact same as previous gen gameplay. Nuff said.

I’m not the one asking for next gen gameplay. That person and several others are. So, I ask again since I have yet to get an answer.

What constitutes next gen gameplay?

 

[hyperbertha]

I’m not the one asking for next gen gameplay. That person and several others are. So, I ask again since I have yet to get an answer.

What constitutes next gen gameplay?

I didn't tell you were and you just ignored my answer.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I didn't tell you were and you just ignored my answer.

Because that’s a non answer for those demanding it in here.

If you demand something, you should be able to describe what it is that you’re demanding. Otherwise, you’re pissing in the wind and complaining just to complain.

And it goes back to what has been said by many as well, people don’t even know what they want. But they sure want it.

 

[hyperbertha]

Because that’s a non answer for those demanding it in here.

If you demand something, you should be able to describe what it is that you’re demanding. Otherwise, you’re pissing in the wind and complaining just to complain.

And it goes back to what has been said by many as well, people don’t even know what they want. But they sure want it.

So we are expected to be game designers now? Sorry that's the game devs job. Their job to wow us the same way gta 4 wowed us coming from San Andreas. Same way Spiderman 2 on PS2 wowed us coming from Spiderman on ps1.

 

[DeepEnigma]

So we are expected to be game designers now? Sorry that's the game devs job. Their job to wow us the same way gta 4 wowed us coming from San Andreas. Same way Spiderman 2 on PS2 wowed us coming from Spiderman on ps1.

Ironic.

 

[staticshock]

Why do people completely ignore developers to replace it with their own reality? What drive is the person using in this video, what RAM does the person have?

If you actually care about the tecnology and want to be informed just watch an actual developer providing information on it. You can see Spiderman 1s streaming budget and speed was set by the hard drive speed, you can compensate with RAM by loading tiles ahead but don't assume your streaming speed has nothing to do with what's possible:

The same way game devs say "This is impossisble!" or "This will take an inhuman level of work to do!".. and modders do it in 24 hours?

All I'm going by is the actual facts. Simply download the Mod and run Spiderman on your PC with a hard-drive and you will have all your answers.

The facts are this generation bs theory that "This could only be done with a superfast SSD and I/O" is pure lies.
Most of the time the SSD/IO isn't even being used.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Damn.... this thread though.

 

[Three]

Just look at the Rami suite, don't you see the difference in quality vs the real game. And also look at the webshooters and the quality of the motion blur on them which is not even in the games photomode. They enhanced the fuck out of those shots as always and they are not a good indication of how the games gonna look.

Those are loading screen shots like this

The same way game devs say "This is impossisble!" or "This will take an inhuman level of work to do!".. and modders do it in 24 hours?

All I'm going by is the actual facts. Simply download the Mod and run Spiderman on your PC with a hard-drive and you will have all your answers.

The facts are this generation bs theory that "This could only be done with a superfast SSD and I/O" is pure lies.
Most of the time the SSD/IO isn't even being used.

Devs don't need to sell crap to other devs. Just watch the GDC video.

What are the facts? The game Spiderman 1 was built with streaming budgets designed around a HDD. I have no idea what speed HDD or other specs that mod video is based on but you can see him/her breaking the streaming by setting movement speed high enough that it not only fails to keep up streaming higher quality textures but meshes for collision detection and breaks the game on whatever his/her drive/SSD speed is.

 

[SlimySnake]

Remember when you seen HFW and were complaining about how shit it looked while in development??? It's crossgen...........
Don't learn eh?

No idea what you are talking about. Horizon got a downgrade from its original teaser and even its gameplay reveal trailer. I was the only one pointing this out too. Odd that you chose HFW as the game that looked BETTER at launch when it looked worse than both the teaser and gameplay reveal.

Original reveal teaser:



Gameplay reveal trailer:

 

[Danjin44]

Damn.... this thread though.

 

[Msamy]

Yes, but it's still a cross gen game/engine.

So what's next gen gameplay?

Yes same engine but with way better graphics go see burning shores

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yes same engine but with way better graphics go see burning shores

I did. It’s one of, if not arguably the best looking game currently out.

 

[Msamy]

Ironic.

You guys come here trying to convince us that this shit showcase looks good , easily you cannot do that , this showcase is far away from being next gen graphics

 

[Msamy]

I did. It’s one of, if not arguably the best looking game currently out.

So don't come here trying to convince me that this shit showcase looks good

 

[Msamy]

You made this thread to complain about a game still in development. Why don't you save yourself from being embarrassed and wait till the actual game comes out then cry like a bitch?
Save yourself some further embarrassment by not comparing it to an on rails demo. There is a huge difference between unreal engine demos and actual shipped games.

I am not the one who embarrassed , that's clearly you

 

[DeepEnigma]

You guys come here trying to convince us that this shit showcase looks good , easily you cannot do that , this showcase is far away from being next gen graphics

Where have I been trying to convince anyone that it looks good? It’s all subjective.

What I’m asking, is for people to describe what they claim they want. Most don’t even know what they want. But they sure do want it.

Next-gen graphics and next-gen gameplay. Describe. You don’t need to be a game designer to describe them anymore than you need to be to criticize them.

That’s the ironic part of the person I quoted.

 

[Msamy]

Where have I been trying to convince anyone that it looks good? It’s all subjective.

What I’m asking, is for people to describe what they claim they want. Most don’t even know what they want. But they sure do want it.

That's not me I clearly know what I want and that's what make dissapointed about that showcase, that said if the game will end looking good I will be happy