Loki's motives made complete sense. Never really got the aliens. Either they wanted Earth and were giving Loki the cube, or the other way around. I dunno, they were just sort of there, as far as I could see.
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Marvel's The Avengers |OT| (Dir. Joss Whedon) [Spoilers unmarked]
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Loki's motives made complete sense. Never really got the aliens. Either they wanted Earth and were giving Loki the cube, or the other way around. I dunno, they were just sort of there, as far as I could see.
Hot Coldman
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Pretty sure that's going to be the tagline for when they make a Thunderbolts film.
Join the club, haha.Damnit, I always seem to end up posting stuff when the thread goes haywire so it'll end up getting lost in the crossfire.
But thanks for the post, that actually filled in the gap on how they used the pictures they took to create the city and use them in the scenes. I always wondered if they actually re-build the entire city by hand in 3D, but figured that would take waaaaaay too long and too many people, I was right. They actually just animated the pics they took, took out the people and cars digitally, then re-added them where they needed them. Also looks like that CG model of the city was rendered procedurally from the photos. Makes way more sense. Can't believe for how long I've been in the game industry as a 3D artist, I still don't know 90% of the tricks Hollywood uses to make their stuff.
you're trying too hard
Yup. The party poopers are here. Wrap it up, guys. We're done here.
Jack Scofield
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What an asinine, absolutely fucking stupid complaint. Just because someone/something has mastered space travel doesn't mean they're immune to conventional weapons.
Hell, humans have learned how to harness nuclear energy, gone to the moon, and have made shittons of scientific and medical advancements in the past few decades, but I can still beat the shit out of you with a baseball bat.
cutmeamango
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Loki knew where the Cosmic Cube was, he had no interest in it.
He would take the Chitauri to the cosmic cube if they helped him flatten Earth.
The Cosmic Cube would help the Chitauris become one of the most powerful races in the universe and yada yada.
That's pretty simple.
Loki fails because his motivations were childish. And that's why he is with that face in the end of the movie. He'll get home, get a buttslap from daddy Odin, and escape his grounding to do more tricks.
EDIT: Only thing that bothered me about the Chitauri is the way they died after the 'ship exploded/portal closed' because that made them a bit of a sucky race, which they are not in the comics.
FlutterPuffs
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He has the arc reactor, but the light emanating out of it didn't seem that bright due to the lighting conditions.
Phoenixazure
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Could also do Thunderbolts
GotEmRunnin
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Pretty much this. Everything to Loki was nothing more than a game a way to get under Thor's skin. The Chitarui were the real threat.
or at least the driving force behind them was i.e thano
Ape Gone Insane
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I think I missed this other Avengers post credit scene. I watched it a few days after it came out in the UK but only seen one post credit scene.
Hot Coldman
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The new scene was US-only. Youtube "avengers shawarma".
I think I'd have a stroke if they did a movie based on the Korvac saga.
The Liberators from Ultimates 2 would be pretty ballsy.
ViewtifulJC
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It was only in US releases.
Auron_Kale
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Been wondering. Was the eyeball extractor thingy that Loki used on the German scientist SHIELD tech or something built due to Hawkeye's 'vision' from the cube?
It's one of these things where I wouldn't be surprised if it is SHIELD tech, but it seems a bit... extreme for them to use.
It's one of these things where I wouldn't be surprised if it is SHIELD tech, but it seems a bit... extreme for them to use.
lol, nice.
Are you kidding? I've been waiting for this. *grabs popcorn*
bob_arctor
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Yeah I just saw it with my kids and was shocked at how awesome she was. I went in thinking she would be an afterthought but her and Hulk were my favorites. Tony too but Robert Downey Jr is always the shit no matter the movie. As for the movie proper: greatest pure superhero flick of all-time imo, especially considering the team aspect. Some truly incredible nerd moments as well which I went full geek on--my kids were trying to get me to stop cheering so hard. Pacing at the beginning is a little suspect but that'd be my only complaint really. And let it be said: Hulk is strongest one there is. Goddamn he got me so amped!!! Great, fun movie and if they pull off the Cosmic Cube saga.....
Anton Sugar
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Let's get real here: the bad guy designs were absolute shit, vehicles and all. Excluding the giant Gears of War things.
EDIT: Forgot about unmarked spoilers.
EDIT: Forgot about unmarked spoilers.
Good Job Bob
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Yeah, truly awful and generic stuff.
I remember them looking kinda creepy but not particularly memorable. The giant snake thing is definitely the enemy highlight.
Good Job Bob
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The giant enemy snake thing is pretty awful as well --- looks straight out of Transformers.
entremet
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A co-worker called them "Lord of the Rings rejects" lol.
Wasn't even really the design for me, at least I think. Mostly it was that you just didn't get to see them clearly since they were constantly jumping/flying around. (the 3D didn't make it easier.... or that they were all grey)
Manus
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It's an alien and so are the Transformers...
Questionable things about The Avengers:
-Opening scene. Clunky dialogue and awkward execution.
-Hero fights. Seem forced in parts.
-Character motivations. See above point.
-SHIELD carrier battle. Did anyone actually know what Iron Man was talking about with Cap? I felt kind of spaced out during the majority of that sequence. Didn't seem interesting.
That's about it. Loved the one-liners, most of the character interactions, the final action sequence, and the promise of Thanos. Very good summer blockbuster.
-Opening scene. Clunky dialogue and awkward execution.
-Hero fights. Seem forced in parts.
-Character motivations. See above point.
-SHIELD carrier battle. Did anyone actually know what Iron Man was talking about with Cap? I felt kind of spaced out during the majority of that sequence. Didn't seem interesting.
That's about it. Loved the one-liners, most of the character interactions, the final action sequence, and the promise of Thanos. Very good summer blockbuster.
You mean when he was trying to get the engine going?
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Was pretty straightforward to me. Fix cooling system, dislodge debris blocking fan rotor, restart engine through manual "jumpstart" by getting the rotor going, once its running on its own Cap disengages maglev bit to slow down the rotors at the bottom for Stark to escape.
Yeah. Maybe I just don't know enough about fan systems.
CherryWoodFuton
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Really???? I wouldn't want to be your friend you buzz killington
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
The dialogue was pretty clear on what had to be done, but RDJ did talk rather quickly.
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Hate how they gave Eric O'Grady a more classic/dorky costume. Looks so old-timey and dorky.
Yeah, his original one was the shit.
Escape Goat
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You can't have characters act mean in movies.
Indeed. The Box Office sales thread was/is a delight as well.
Some more behind the scenes shots.
ILM photographers taking shots of NYC:Original plate:
Final comp with digital city backdrop and assorted debris/objects:
MORE! I'd love to see some shots in the woods where IM vs Thor went down.
Well they did want you to empathize with Cap a bit in that scene, but the plan wasn't hard to follow at all.
Anton Sugar
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That sequence was a little confusing to me, because at one point you spend more time with the other Avengers in the ship, that when it cut back to Iron Man pushing the rotor and then worrying about the "red switch", I thought, "Wait, what's going to happen again? Oh yeah, he'll get fucked up."
It was a pretty busy, chaotic sequence, but overall I thought it was pulled off very well. There was a lot of unnecessary techno-jargon though, and it is OH SO hard to pat Whedon on the back when he still slips in shit like "IN ENGLISH PLEASE".
It was between him and Whedon for president of his high school's chess club, and Whedon won.
cutmeamango
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Can't you see that Whedon is Kevin Feige's puppet yet he is one envious fuck, trying to destroy all of Kevin's efforts by being an asshole to a woman!?
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Well, the first time the phrase was used by RDJ it felt to me like something appropriately condescending that Stark would say. Cap would have never used it if he wasn't present for that, and I thought it was a nice turnaround where he got to use the term back at him. If it wasn't used in the first circumstance, I agree it would have felt much more "Whedon-ismy" as some would put it.
Yes, it was a direct callback to Stark being Stark back on the ship. Which is an extremely Whedon thing to do.
Escape Goat
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The whole engine repair scene was perfectly clear. The only thing I thought was odd was that Steve knew what Stark meant in the first place when he told Cap to go to the relay panel (I forget what Stark called it). "Its, uh, electrical." kind of addresses what the audience is already thinking. And its off and moving again to the next sequence.
cutmeamango
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Stark explains some would appear to be off and he should turn it on again.
I don't remember perfectly but weren't there red lights on and he switches it all?
HP_Wuvcraft
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Finally seeing this tonight.
I expect many, many ass-shots.
I expect many, many ass-shots.
Anton Sugar
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It's pretty glorious. Black Widow is even pinned by fallen machinery...but sexily.
Escape Goat
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I think it was the interrogation scene with Widow and Loki where shes standing and its just a slow push towards her ass. I had visions of Miranda Lawson.
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