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Matt Booty on Forza Reboot: "It’s amazing. It’s going to, again, reset the high bar for what simulation and competitive racing games can be."
- Thread starter Eddie-Griffin
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Trazyn the Infinite
Member
Yeah it did multiple times
No, it never did. For simulators there were constant other titles that shat all over Forza. IRACING, Assetto Corsa, Gran Turismo on consoles - Forza never was better than any in the simulation department. Even for arcade/simcade, there were constantly other, better racers out during that time. Forza always was a jack of all trades, master of none ever since its inception.
Trazyn the Infinite
Member
No, they *should* be run like a AA studio. AA games tend to have more risks taken, focus on gameplay and unique elements, while having a lot of variety in what they can create.
Instead, Matt Booty/Phil Spencer/whomever is leading this shitfest is treating the XGS like AAA while managing them like an alcoholic Father. Fucking terribly. AAA games almost universally are trash these days because they refuse to take risks, focus on pushing MTX and GAAS design, or use the most shallow/barebones gameplay systems with a focus on graphical fidelity and animations because the greater public have brains the size of peas.
Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
Jim Ryan other Clone
Banned
My dude, this profile picture took me many years back when I had more "spicy" hobby and there was an obnoxious member in a forum who pretended that he was with the members side but he was a promoter. (Like some here with Sony/Xbox) but at least he was "eating" good.
nightmare-slain
Member
i'm excited for the new forza. it's my favourite car game. F7 is quite dated now. still good to play but i want new cars and better visuals.
0neAnd0nly
Member
While I actually enjoy Forza… a good bit.
It’s definitely an arcade / sim mixed game. Not full simulation.
I’m a car guy, have been building race cars since 2003/2004, so I play / have played many as it is a nice virtual additive to my hobby.
I wouldn’t expect meta critic to understand that, or most reviewers …
But that isn’t a knock. Forza is a fun package that does a lot right. I don’t consider the mainline series fully arcade or anything, but I don’t really consider it fully sim either… by a good bit.
Just putting that out there from my perspective. Can’t speak for the people quoted.
Calverz
Member
Aye it did. For consoles anyway.
transformer
Member
I believe this is exactly what they are doing. It’s been five years since a Forza Motorsport and this will be the first release on current gen.
Icymanipulator
Member
Excited that it’s current Gen only. Won’t be hard for them to create something better then GT7 imo.
Jimmyisback
Banned
Forza Motorsport continues to be the King of simulation racing.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
And tech going by what this game is doing.
Eddie-Griffin
Banned
Which is what's happening?
Dreamcast, too much detail for N64.
No it wasn't, what are you talking about? Sequels weren't radically different form the original game like Zelda 2.
Even the racing sims that count how many lines are on the road, and whether a tree branch causes realistic spin, speaking about tire grip gave Forza higher marks.
Eddie-Griffin
Banned
There has been one Forza Motorsport game released in the last nearly 7 years.
BlackTron
Member
lol wow man I can't believe you edited my quote. Don't really want to address the rest of your post after tomfoolerly like that come on.
Eddie-Griffin
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You listed what you think a reboot would entail, and I showed that Forza met one of the criteria you listed.
Also Zelda II wasn't normal. Sequels weren't radically different than their predecessors in most cases, that was rare. instead developers would branch out in more genres more either with spin-offs or new IP.
In Cold Blood
Banned
Probably my most anticipated game from a fidelity point of view. This will be the first game on a engine built from the ground up to take advantage of the Xbox Series X and the new DX12 Ultimate extensions.
It is also going to be amazing for the Forza MS vs GT7 comparison threads.
It is also going to be amazing for the Forza MS vs GT7 comparison threads.
JackMcGunns
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Remember when native 4K was supposed to be impossible on Xbox One X other than on simple arcade games or games like Ori, then along came Red Dead Redemption, one of the most ambitious games graphically and still delivered 4K. The reason I mention this is because you just don't know. Let's see.
skit_data
Member
I still think this whole ”Ray-tracing on track” sounds a bit wierd, but I’ll be the first one to be very impressed if they pull it off.
I mean, Insomniac managed to pull off 4k ~40-50 fps with RT in Spider-Man on PS5 so I wouldn’t say it’s out of question that there’s enough headroom in a close circuit racer with a slightly bigger GPU on Series X.
I mean, Insomniac managed to pull off 4k ~40-50 fps with RT in Spider-Man on PS5 so I wouldn’t say it’s out of question that there’s enough headroom in a close circuit racer with a slightly bigger GPU on Series X.
CeeJay
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Turn 10 kept getting asked the same thing and we ended up with that weird statement, it went something like this;
Turn 10: FM is 4K/60 with RT!
Warriors: Ah but is that just in Forza Vista Mode?
Turn10: No This is during races too!
Warriors: Ah but is that just in replays?
Turn10: Look, this is getting stupid, IF YOU ARE ON THE TRACK THEN ITS GOT RT FFS!
Warriors: That's a weird statement...
Bergoglio
Member
Always superior to GT and other racing saga metacritic/review/awards.
Eddie-Griffin
Banned
Pretty much. Turn 10 and Playground have been the most consistent devs at Xbox, so it never made sense to be so skeptical of their claims.
Thirty7ven
Banned
Game reviewers don’t know shit about racing.
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