yankeeforever2
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Is DBZ considered a bomba, how did the other games do?
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Media Create Sales 6/9 - 6/15
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Jaded Alyx
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Vinnk said:
ToS and used PS3s.
norinrad21
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creamsugar said:
I thought MGS4 was going to bump things up? wow that's depressing
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
MGS4--I'm not sure this drop is really all that astronomical. Let me briefly use Josh's numbers to establish a precedent here;
MGS2. Week one: 456k. Week two: 88k. Dropoff: 80%
MGS3. Week one: 487k. Week two: 127k. Dropoff: 74%
MGS4's dropoff is slightly sharper than MGS2's (I think MGS2 is a better comparison than MGS3 based on the point in the lifespan and the fact that MGS3, while critically acclaimed, is the most oddball of the series marketing/sales wise--it's a prequel, in my experience it wasn't advertised as much, it wasn't a "system seller" like MGS2 was along with FFX that same year) but it's not substantially worse.
Anecdotally, everyone I've spoken to has mentioned used copies bubbling up, so it seems the game's length and MGO weren't enough to hold off the tide.
Mario Baseball opens slightly weaker than the GCN installment, but better than I expected. Good first day->first week growth. Still, I feel as though prolonged sales will be lower due to the generally bad word of mouth.
Taiko Drum Master 2 still chugging, but it's interesting to see TDM1 still around. I haven't heard reports about the song variety on either to know whether or not this is an indication that the first game is better (or a good complement), but if the second shows the same longevity as the first, it'll pull good numbers and generally reverse the trend in direct DS sequels not selling as well as their predecessors.
:lol DBZ :lol Same as last week, DBZ continues to demonstrate what a mis-step it was. Family Trainer drops quickly, not displaying typical non-game resilience. I suspect the fact that it's not Balance Board compatible means that the buyers here are not likely the Balance Board / Nintendo fan crew, and as a result this software is going to look more like similar offerings last gen than the decent offchart growth we've seen on the DS and Wii this gen.
Yamamura Misa Suspense drops harder than its predecessor but I have a feeling the overall LTDs will be virtually identical. The first topped out at 150k, so I'd guess that they've got pretty much the same market installment to installment with little growth but also no haemorrhaging
Hardware-wise, we still have yet to see if the PS3 "baseline" moves or not. Obviously last weeks sales were mostly attributed to the bundle. 25k represents a serious improvement over the awful sales before, but as with last week before the majority of the game's sales are the existing PS3 owners.
Mario Baseball used copies, please. Don't care about new stock. Just used; this game is a dud and I want to see if it's getting the typical reaction that duds get.
MGS2. Week one: 456k. Week two: 88k. Dropoff: 80%
MGS3. Week one: 487k. Week two: 127k. Dropoff: 74%
MGS4's dropoff is slightly sharper than MGS2's (I think MGS2 is a better comparison than MGS3 based on the point in the lifespan and the fact that MGS3, while critically acclaimed, is the most oddball of the series marketing/sales wise--it's a prequel, in my experience it wasn't advertised as much, it wasn't a "system seller" like MGS2 was along with FFX that same year) but it's not substantially worse.
Anecdotally, everyone I've spoken to has mentioned used copies bubbling up, so it seems the game's length and MGO weren't enough to hold off the tide.
Mario Baseball opens slightly weaker than the GCN installment, but better than I expected. Good first day->first week growth. Still, I feel as though prolonged sales will be lower due to the generally bad word of mouth.
Taiko Drum Master 2 still chugging, but it's interesting to see TDM1 still around. I haven't heard reports about the song variety on either to know whether or not this is an indication that the first game is better (or a good complement), but if the second shows the same longevity as the first, it'll pull good numbers and generally reverse the trend in direct DS sequels not selling as well as their predecessors.
:lol DBZ :lol Same as last week, DBZ continues to demonstrate what a mis-step it was. Family Trainer drops quickly, not displaying typical non-game resilience. I suspect the fact that it's not Balance Board compatible means that the buyers here are not likely the Balance Board / Nintendo fan crew, and as a result this software is going to look more like similar offerings last gen than the decent offchart growth we've seen on the DS and Wii this gen.
Yamamura Misa Suspense drops harder than its predecessor but I have a feeling the overall LTDs will be virtually identical. The first topped out at 150k, so I'd guess that they've got pretty much the same market installment to installment with little growth but also no haemorrhaging
Hardware-wise, we still have yet to see if the PS3 "baseline" moves or not. Obviously last weeks sales were mostly attributed to the bundle. 25k represents a serious improvement over the awful sales before, but as with last week before the majority of the game's sales are the existing PS3 owners.
Vinnk said:
Mario Baseball used copies, please. Don't care about new stock. Just used; this game is a dud and I want to see if it's getting the typical reaction that duds get.
norinrad21
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TheBranca18 said:
oh i guess it was a huge bump according to PS3 standards then.
Maybe it will have legs like Galaxy?
test_account
XP-39C²
Anyone know why there is so big of a difference? Different price? Lower Wii supply? Its a big userbase difference between PS2 and Wii, sure, but Wii is the hot console at the moment so i'm alittle suprised that there is so big of a difference.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but i dont think any MGS game sold 1 million copies in Japan (not counting re-releases etc. since MGS4 hasnt had re-releases yet (i dunno if it will get it either, but maybe)).Jaruru said:
norinrad21
Banned
So basically every huge game for the PS3 has peaked around 500k?
norinrad21
Banned
teepo said:
Whats left in Sony's armor? ICO perhaps? It seems the most biggest and long awaited games couldn't save the PS3 in Japan, maybe quality 3rd party games will?
At this point, i can see why they deliberately keep delaying Final Fantasy, could end up being the biggest bomb in history over there
OokieSpookie
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Gaborn said:
Anyone who actually played MGS4 definitely feel it is the year of the PS3, people who spend their days jerking off over numbers instead of playing games can do what they want.
As with most games, I assume the fanbase is on the PS2, so there's little reason for the Wii game. That said, looking at the previous games (all PS2) on Garaph (thanks Joshua!), this one had a big opening:test_account said:
2004-12-22 Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 3 - 22,496
2005-04-01 Harukanaru Toki no Naka de ~Hachiyoushou~ - 9,480
2005-09-22 Harukanaru Toki no Naka 3 - 36,663
2006-03-23 Harukanaru Toki no Uchi de 3: Unmei no Meikyuu - 33,621
It's LTD is already beyond any of those.
OokieSpookie
Banned
schuelma said:
Yep, on a gaming board.
Oh the dilemma!
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
creamsugar said:
Oh man...
Dragona Akehi
Retired
OokieSpookie said:
You were pretty happy "jerking off" to numbers last week. Funny how things change.
AnimeTheme
Member
norinrad21 said:
Was there anyone here seriously expecting a SINGLE game which was not even from a million seller series to "save" PS3? You?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
norinrad21 said:
Just in case you're curious.
Shadow of the Colossus; opening 129k on lifetime of 190k. (the Best opening on 25k, no lifetime update--total across SKUs ~215k)
ICO; opening 15k, no lifetime update (the Best opening on 4k on lifetime of 8k, the Best 2nd release lifetime 90k--total across SKUs ~125k)
norinrad21
Banned
AnimeTheme said:
I always expect good games to sell regardless of console. Just because a game didn't sell well last gen, doesn't mean a new installment won't bring about change.
very depressing to see such awesome games not do so well.
Paracelsus
Member
norinrad21 said:
Hm...no.
It will probably end up selling less than previous installments, but it won't be a bomba, just like MGS4 is not a bomba.
Problem here is not software, but the hardware.
If people keep shunning HD consoles even with such big releases, it becomes even more clear that a PSP-like comeback is impossible.