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Media Create Sales: August 2-8

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Media Create August 2-8

01. / 00. [PSP] Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon X (Bandai Namco) - 108.356 / NEW
02. / 03. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 82.698 / 611.718 (+0%)
03. / 01. [PS3] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom) - 57.021 / 299.719 (-77%)
04. / 02. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva 2 (Sega) - 35.865 / 277.332 (-85%)
05. / 00. [PSP] StormLover (D3 Publisher) - 20.087 / NEW
06. / 13. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo) - 16.695 / 748.897 (-7%)
07. / 10. [NDS] Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow (Nintendo) - 15.845 / 213.011 (-26%)
08. / 05. [WII] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom) - 15.387 / 65.209 (-69%)
09. / 00. [NDS] Battle Spirits: Digital Starter (Bandai Namco) - 15.338 / NEW
10. / 00. [NDS] Heart Catch PreCure! Oshare Collection (Bandai Namco) - 15.091 / NEW
11. / 00. [NDS] Tetris Party Deluxe (Hudson) - 14.016 / NEW
12. / 11. [WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix) - 13.198 / 205.640 (-37%)
13. / 00. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Spark (Level 5) - 13.118 / 401.796
14. / 04. [NDS] Kamen Rider Battle: Ganbaride Card Battle Taisen (Bandai Namco) - 12.939 / 77.206 (-80%)
15. / 09. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 12.360 / 115.454 (-44%)
16. / 14. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Battle With the Ghouls!! (Bandai Namco) - 12.212 / 162.042
17. / 06. [NDS] Metal Max 3 (Kadokawa Shoten) - 11.645 / 58.599 (-75%)
18. / 16. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) - 11.510 / 3.364.020
19. / 00. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Bomber (Level 5) - 11.106 / 349.831
20. / 23. [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo) - 10.417 / 108.422

21. / 00. [PS2] J-League Winning Eleven 2010: Club Championship (Konami)
22. / 12. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami)
23. / 17. [NDS] Harvest Moon: Twin Villages (Marvelous Entertainment)
24. / 15. [PS3] ModNation Racers (SCE)
25. / 24. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
26. / 25. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo)
27. / 00. [PS3] Assassin's Creed II: Special Edition (Ubisoft)
28. / 26. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo)
29. / 27. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom Unite [PSP the Best Reprint] (Capcom)
30. / 34. [NDS] Digimon Story: Lost Evolution (Bandai Namco)
31. / 30. [PSP] Momotaro Railway Tag Match: Friendship - Cooperation - Winning Volume! (Hudson)
32. / 33. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
33. / 20. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles: Awakening of Light and Darkness (SCE)
34. / 18. [PSP] Last Ranker (Capcom)
35. / 41. [NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold / Soul Silver (Pokemon Co.)
36. / 42. [PSP] Busou Shinki: Battle Masters (Konami)
37. / 00. [PS2] Persona 4 [PlayStation 2 the Best] (Atlus Co.)
38. / 08. [PSP] Ys Vs. Sora no Kiseki: Alternative Saga (Nihon Falcom)
39. / 47. [PSP] Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker (Konami)
40. / 22. [NDS] Quiz! Hexagon II (Bandai Namco)
41. / 36. [NDS] Tokimeki Memorial: Girl's Side 3rd Story (Konami)
42. / 00. [WII] Tetris Party Deluxe (Hudson)
43. / 45. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo)
44. / 19. [NDS] Kaidan Restaurant: Ura Menu 100-Sen (Bandai Namco)
45. / 38. [NDS] Love Plus + (Konami)
46. / 21. [PSP] Fate/Extra (Marvelous Entertainment)
47. / 32. [NDS] Katekyoo Hitman Reborn! DS Flame Rumble XX: Kessen! Real 6 Chouka (Takara Tomy)
48. / 40. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 (Square Enix)
49. / 46. [NDS] Tamagotchi no Pichi Pichi Omisecchi (Bandai Namco)
50. / 43. [PSP] Naruto Shippuden: Kizuna Drive (Bandai Namco)
51. / 39. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010: Blue Samurai Challenge (Konami)


00. / 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) - 973.222 / 33.305.976 (-33%)

NDS - 22
PSP - 13
WII - 9
PS3 - 5
PS2 - 2
360 - 0



HARDWARE

Code:
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|System |  This Week  |  Last Week  |        YTD  |         LTD  |
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|  NDS  |     43.708  |     45.128  |  1.414.867  |  30.693.947  |
|  PSP  |     31.106  |     49.380  |  1.265.138  |  15.008.226  |
|  PS3  |     28.630  |     45.224  |    887.417  |   5.388.784  |
|  WII  |     18.238  |     20.038  |    925.156  |  10.530.355  |
|  360  |      5.639  |      6.929  |    136.217  |   1.345.889  |
|  PS2  |      1.524  |      1.444  |     52.880  |  21.663.057  |
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| DSiLL |     21.018  |     23.120  |    751.243  |   1.258.150  |
|  DSi  |     18.318  |     17.950  |    523.527  |   4.862.473  |
|  DSL  |      4.372  |      4.058  |    140.097  |  17.987.853  |
------------------------------------------------------------------
|  PSP  |     30.398  |     48.603  |  1.222.860  |  14.890.193  |
| PSPgo |        708  |        777  |     42.278  |     118.033  |
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Obon saved us this week. But let's hope this early leak continues (doubtful)

Wii Party shows (again) that Wii_ titles are stronger than Mario titles. Media Create because we have more recent data.

[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 264.953 / 264.953
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 134.786 / 399.739
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 103.889 / 503.628
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 112.724 / 616.352
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 48.803 / 665.155
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 39.019 / 704.174
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 28.237 / 732.411
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 23.906 / 756.317
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 22.372 / 778.689
...
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - / 1.426.343


[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 234.892 / 234.892
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 112.850 / 347.742
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 98.564 / 446.306
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 82.713 / 529.019
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 82.698 / 611.718


This week it's Obon in Japan and Wii Party will go (way?) up. Last year Wii Sports Resort went from 73.089 to 104.972.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
03. / 01. [PS3] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom) - 57.021 / 299.719 (-77%)
Liking what I'm reading!
 

Busaiku

Member
Is there any reason why Media Create split Inazuma Eleven 3's sales, despite combining them before?

Also, still nice to see Super Mario Galaxy 2 hanging on, though it's a shame New Super Mario Bros Wii completely died out.
Seems only the US can support both titles.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Busaiku said:
Is there any reason why Media Create split Inazuma Eleven 3's sales, despite combining them before?
Media Create subscribers get seperate sales, it goes combined only public. After all this is a leak.
 

Vic

Please help me with my bad english
Busaiku said:
Is there any reason why Media Create split Inazuma Eleven 3's sales, despite combining them before?

Also, still nice to see Super Mario Galaxy 2 hanging on, though it's a shame New Super Mario Bros Wii completely died out.
Seems only the US can support both titles.
NSMB is probably still within the top 30. I wouldn't call it dead.
 

Shikamaru Ninja

任天堂 の 忍者
Does anyone keep top ltd of Nintendo games? Working on my blog site and would like to have a section for that?
 

Vic

Please help me with my bad english
Shikamaru Ninja said:
Does anyone keep top ltd of Nintendo games? Working on my blog site and would like to have a section for that?
Mind sharing the link of your blog, braw?
 

Bebpo

Banned
I still think Narikiri Dungeon marketing hurt it. If you weren't paying close attention you'd think it was just another release of Tales of Phantasia.

It'll do ok, and at least make some money for Tales studio, but properly marketed I think it would've opened around 150k, not 110k.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Media Create

03/03/05 [PSP] Tales of Eternia (Namco) - 80.650 / 157.043
07/09/06 [PSP] Tales of Phantasia: Full Voice Edition (Bandai Namco) - 66.263 / 111.300
21/12/06 [PSP] Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology (Bandai Namco) - 122.889 / 251.941
15/02/07 [PSP] Tales of Destiny 2 (Bandai Namco) - 73.022 / 124.509
19/03/08 [PSP] Tales of Rebirth (Bandai Namco) - 46.719 / 80.033
29/01/09 [PSP] Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology 2 (Bandai Namco) - 212.765 / 333.181
06/08/09 [PSP] Tales of Vs. (Bandai Namco) - 133.076 / 213.837
05/08/10 [PSP] Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon X (Bandai Namco) - 108.356 / 108.356

And the original (Famitsu)
10/11/00 [NGB] Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon (Namco) - 64.242 / 154.602
 

Bebpo

Banned
SlipperySlope said:
How does the Tales game compare to other Tales games fw?

Better opening than Vesperia X360, Tales of Innocence (those were ~100k)
About the same as Graces
Worse than any of the Radiant Mythology games or Tales of Versus (those were ~130k+)
Way worse than big PS2/PS3 Tales (200-300k)

I'm guessing PSP will never get a real Tales again after this. Why make real Tales for PSP, when you can make fanservice spinoffs Tales for PSP that will sell better.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Bebpo said:
Better opening than Vesperia X360, Tales of Innocence (those were ~100k)
About the same as Graces
Worse than any of the Radiant Mythology games or Tales of Versus (those were ~130k+)
Way worse than big PS2/PS3 Tales (200-300k)
[WII] Tales of Graces (Bandai Namco) - 143.215 / 194.378
 
Chris1964 said:
Media Create

03/03/05 [PSP] Tales of Eternia (Namco) - 80.650 / 157.043
07/09/06 [PSP] Tales of Phantasia: Full Voice Edition (Bandai Namco) - 66.263 / 111.300
21/12/06 [PSP] Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology (Bandai Namco) - 122.889 / 251.941
15/02/07 [PSP] Tales of Destiny 2 (Bandai Namco) - 73.022 / 124.509
19/03/08 [PSP] Tales of Rebirth (Bandai Namco) - 46.719 / 80.033
29/01/09 [PSP] Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology 2 (Bandai Namco) - 212.765 / 333.181
06/08/09 [PSP] Tales of Vs. (Bandai Namco) - 133.076 / 213.837
05/08/10 [PSP] Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon X (Bandai Namco) - 108.356 / 108.356

And the original (Famitsu)
10/11/00 [NGB] Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon (Namco) - 64.242 / 154.602

Thanks. How does it compare to Tales games on other systems?
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
SlipperySlope said:
Thanks. How does it compare to Tales games on other systems?
You are asking for a very big list.

Famitsu because it's complete

15/12/95 [SFC] Tales of Phantasia (Namco) - 84.373 / 228.738
23/12/97 [PS1] Tales of Destiny (Namco) - 450.099 / 829.618
23/12/98 [PS1] Tales of Phantasia (Namco) - 267.543 / 550.393
10/11/00 [NGB] Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon (Namco) - 64.242 / 154.602
30/11/00 [PS1] Tales of Eternia (Namco) - 384.790 / 669.248
31/01/02 [PS1] Tales of Fandom Vol. 1 (Namco) - 51.611 / 88.948
25/10/02 [GBA] Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 2 (Namco) - 86.587 / 186.413
28/11/02 [PS2] Tales of Destiny 2 (Namco) - 498.142 / 762.861
07/03/03 [GBA] Tales of the World: Summoner's Lineage (Namco) - 14.828 / 52.102
01/08/03 [GBA] Tales of Phantasia (Namco) - 55.970 / 134.608
29/08/03 [GCN] Tales of Symphonia (Namco) - 183.527 / 322.779
22/09/04 [PS2] Tales of Symphonia (Namco) - 269.073 / 394.312
16/12/04 [PS2] Tales of Rebirth (Namco) - 372.767 / 596.493
06/01/05 [GBA] Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3 (Namco) - 67.535 / 113.414
03/03/05 [PSP] Tales of Eternia (Namco) - 74.630 / 193.458
25/08/05 [PS2] Tales of Legendia (Namco) - 242.003 / 343.332
15/12/05 [PS2] Tales of the Abyss (Namco) - 368.316 / 556.465
07/09/06 [PSP] Tales of Phantasia: Full Voice Edition (Bandai Namco) - 65.417 / 112.367
26/10/06 [NDS] Tales of the Tempest (Bandai Namco) - 83.298 / 205.541
30/11/06 [PS2] Tales of Destiny (Bandai Namco) - 256.288 / 367.998
21/12/06 [PSP] Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology (Bandai Namco) - 97.156 / 214.128
15/02/07 [PSP] Tales of Destiny 2 (Bandai Namco) - 65.503 / 114.757
28/06/07 [PS2] Tales of Fandom Vol. 2: Luke / Tia (Bandai Namco) - 45.354 / 86.337
06/12/07 [NDS] Tales of Innocence (Bandai Namco) - 106.733 / 246.420
31/01/08 [PS2] Tales of Destiny: Director's Cut (Bandai Namco) - 97.476 / 142.301
19/03/08 [PSP] Tales of Rebirth (Bandai Namco) - 44.888 / 83.016
26/06/08 [WII] Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World (Bandai Namco) - 151.138 / 212.408
07/08/08 [360] Tales of Vesperia (Bandai Namco) - 101.272 / 204.305
18/12/08 [NDS] Tales of Hearts: Anime Movie / CG Movie Edition (Bandai Namco) - 141.610 / 261.751
29/01/09 [PSP] Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology 2 (Bandai Namco) - 210.297 / 317.730
06/08/09 [PSP] Tales of Vs. (Bandai Namco) - 153.366 / 231.351
17/09/09 [PS3] Tales of Vesperia (Bandai Namco) - 227.506 / 362.359
10/12/09 [WII] Tales of Graces (Bandai Namco) - 143.309 / 203.770
 
Chris1964 said:
You are asking for a very big list.

Famitsu because it's complete

15/12/95 [SFC] Tales of Phantasia (Namco) - 84.373 / 228.738
23/12/97 [PS1] Tales of Destiny (Namco) - 450.099 / 829.618
23/12/98 [PS1] Tales of Phantasia (Namco) - 267.543 / 550.393
10/11/00 [NGB] Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon (Namco) - 64.242 / 154.602
30/11/00 [PS1] Tales of Eternia (Namco) - 384.790 / 669.248
31/01/02 [PS1] Tales of Fandom Vol. 1 (Namco) - 51.611 / 88.948
25/10/02 [GBA] Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 2 (Namco) - 86.587 / 186.413
28/11/02 [PS2] Tales of Destiny 2 (Namco) - 498.142 / 762.861
07/03/03 [GBA] Tales of the World: Summoner's Lineage (Namco) - 14.828 / 52.102
01/08/03 [GBA] Tales of Phantasia (Namco) - 55.970 / 134.608
29/08/03 [GCN] Tales of Symphonia (Namco) - 183.527 / 322.779
22/09/04 [PS2] Tales of Symphonia (Namco) - 269.073 / 394.312
16/12/04 [PS2] Tales of Rebirth (Namco) - 372.767 / 596.493
06/01/05 [GBA] Tales of the World: Narikiri Dungeon 3 (Namco) - 67.535 / 113.414
03/03/05 [PSP] Tales of Eternia (Namco) - 74.630 / 193.458
25/08/05 [PS2] Tales of Legendia (Namco) - 242.003 / 343.332
15/12/05 [PS2] Tales of the Abyss (Namco) - 368.316 / 556.465
07/09/06 [PSP] Tales of Phantasia: Full Voice Edition (Bandai Namco) - 65.417 / 112.367
26/10/06 [NDS] Tales of the Tempest (Bandai Namco) - 83.298 / 205.541
30/11/06 [PS2] Tales of Destiny (Bandai Namco) - 256.288 / 367.998
21/12/06 [PSP] Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology (Bandai Namco) - 97.156 / 214.128
15/02/07 [PSP] Tales of Destiny 2 (Bandai Namco) - 65.503 / 114.757
28/06/07 [PS2] Tales of Fandom Vol. 2: Luke / Tia (Bandai Namco) - 45.354 / 86.337
06/12/07 [NDS] Tales of Innocence (Bandai Namco) - 106.733 / 246.420
31/01/08 [PS2] Tales of Destiny: Director's Cut (Bandai Namco) - 97.476 / 142.301
19/03/08 [PSP] Tales of Rebirth (Bandai Namco) - 44.888 / 83.016
26/06/08 [WII] Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World (Bandai Namco) - 151.138 / 212.408
07/08/08 [360] Tales of Vesperia (Bandai Namco) - 101.272 / 204.305
18/12/08 [NDS] Tales of Hearts: Anime Movie / CG Movie Edition (Bandai Namco) - 141.610 / 261.751
29/01/09 [PSP] Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology 2 (Bandai Namco) - 210.297 / 317.730
06/08/09 [PSP] Tales of Vs. (Bandai Namco) - 153.366 / 231.351
17/09/09 [PS3] Tales of Vesperia (Bandai Namco) - 227.506 / 362.359
10/12/09 [WII] Tales of Graces (Bandai Namco) - 143.309 / 203.770

Thanks! How long did it take you to fully DB the entire Famitsu sales data?
 

DR2K

Banned
Chris1964 said:
Obon saved us this week. But let's hope this early leak continues (doubtful)

Wii Party shows (again) that Wii_ titles are stronger than Mario titles. Media Create because we have more recent data.

[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 264.953 / 264.953
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 134.786 / 399.739
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 103.889 / 503.628
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 112.724 / 616.352
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 48.803 / 665.155
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 39.019 / 704.174
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 28.237 / 732.411
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 23.906 / 756.317
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 22.372 / 778.689
...
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - / 1.426.343


[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 234.892 / 234.892
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 112.850 / 347.742
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 98.564 / 446.306
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 82.713 / 529.019
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 82.698 / 611.718


This week it's Obon in Japan and Wii Party will go (way?) up. Last year Wii Sports Resort went from 73.089 to 104.972.

How is it stronger when it's selling less each week? Sans the 5th one. Also isn't Mario Bros Wii the top selling console game, well above any Wii ___ title?
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
SlipperySlope said:
Thanks! How long did it take you to fully DB the entire Famitsu and Media Create sales data?
You don't want to know
1 year with 3-4 hours per day
DR2K said:
How is it stronger when it's selling less each week? Sans the 5th one. Also isn't Mario Bros Wii the top selling console game, well above any Wii ___ title?
Are you ready for a bet?
 
This isn't a leak. It's posted on 4Gamer, and they're a legit site. They say they'll be sharing the sales every week on Thursday from now on, which seems to to mean Wednesday night at midnight.

Different from the version of the charts that appear at Gpara and Inside Games, the 4gamer version splits the sales between SKUs (like Pokemon Black and White will each get a separate listing) and also show sales for the top 20. But they don't show entries 21 to 30. We'll find out tomorrow when Gpara and Inside Games post their charts if this is Media Create's new way of doing things, or if 4gamer has some sort of special deal set up.
 

Rocksteady33

Junior Member
I like Galaxy's staying power. Is it likely that it could stay to the holidays or is that completely out of the question at this point?
 
These numbers I think change a few assumptions from just a few weeks ago (which are where the home of the Tales games should be).

The assumption a few weeks ago were the Tales games should be on the PSP/PS3 because those ones sell the best.

What's the synopsis now?

I'll give my opinion. They should release every tales game, on the same date, on every system. Why not? The games aren't technically impressive. They shouldn't be hard to port. And the current system of switching the Tale's home every year obviously isn't working.

That way they can nurture Tales fans on all systems. And it would make porting the games to the West much more economically feasible. Seems win/win to me. And nobody feels left out.

Anyone else want to chime in?
 
Chris1964 said:
Media Create August 2-8

01. / 00. [PSP] Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon X (Bandai Namco) - 108.356 / NEW
Expected worse given comgnet preorders and sales (which were less than 2/3rds of Vs. iirc) and yso guys predictions (most on the 80k-90k range), but still feels like Namco didn't quite market it well. On paper it should have been at least on Vs/RM1 numbers. Its not even good by post-PS2 standards. Barely better than straight ports but worse than outsourced spinoffs isn't hot at all for a 2nd rate remake with extra phantasia port. Okay maybe that last point actually goes against it :lol
 
03. / 01. [PS3] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom) - 57.021 / 299.719 (-77%)
12. / 11. [WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix) - 13.198 / 205.640 (-37%)

It's time to move on, Nintendo.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
AndriaSang said:
This isn't a leak. It's posted on 4Gamer, and they're a legit site. They say they'll be sharing the sales every week on Thursday from now on, which seems to to mean Wednesday night at midnight.

Different from the version of the charts that appear at Gpara and Inside Games, the 4gamer version splits the sales between SKUs (like Pokemon Black and White will each get a separate listing) and also show sales for the top 20. But they don't show entries 21 to 30. We'll find out tomorrow when Gpara and Inside Games post their charts if this is Media Create's new way of doing things, or if 4gamer has some sort of special deal set up.
I find hard to believe that 4Gamer will continue to provide top 20 with numbers and hardware every Wednesday midnight since this will make the Media Create site update almost unecessary. I hope this continues but I won't be surprised if next week they don't provide hardware or limit the numbers to top 10. It must be a hell of a deal with Media Create if this trend continues as it is right now.
 
DR2K said:
How is it stronger when it's selling less each week? Sans the 5th one. Also isn't Mario Bros Wii the top selling console game, well above any Wii ___ title?
All about the legs.

Willy105 said:
It seems more like they are neck and neck so far, Mario had a better premiere, Wii Party only performed better than MP8 in the 5th week, only one week so far.
The 5th week happens to be the most important one. It's the week that determines how well its going to sell compared to MP8. It's not as neck and neck as you think since Wii Party is going to start taking over very rapidly from now on.
 

WillyFive

Member
Chris1964 said:
Obon saved us this week. But let's hope this early leak continues (doubtful)

Wii Party shows (again) that Wii_ titles are stronger than Mario titles. Media Create because we have more recent data.

[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 264.953 / 264.953
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 134.786 / 399.739
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 103.889 / 503.628
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 112.724 / 616.352
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 48.803 / 665.155
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 39.019 / 704.174
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 28.237 / 732.411
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 23.906 / 756.317
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 22.372 / 778.689
...
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - / 1.426.343


[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 234.892 / 234.892
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 112.850 / 347.742
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 98.564 / 446.306
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 82.713 / 529.019
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 82.698 / 611.718


This week it's Obon in Japan and Wii Party will go (way?) up. Last year Wii Sports Resort went from 73.089 to 104.972.

It seems more like they are neck and neck so far, Mario had a better premiere, Wii Party only performed better than MP8 in the 5th week, only one week so far.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Willy105 said:
It seems more like they are neck and neck so far, Mario had a better premiere, Wii Party only performed better than MP8 in the 5th week, only one week so far.
It's not so difficult to see the upcoming weeks

[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 264.953 / 264.953
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 134.786 / 399.739
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 103.889 / 503.628
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 112.724 / 616.352
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 48.803 / 665.155
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 39.019 / 704.174
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 28.237 / 732.411
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 23.906 / 756.317
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 22.372 / 778.689
...
[WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - / 1.426.343


[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 234.892 / 234.892
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 112.850 / 347.742
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 98.564 / 446.306
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 82.713 / 529.019
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 82.698 / 611.718
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 100.000+
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 70.000+
...
[WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 1.500.000-2.000.000
 
Willy105 said:
It seems more like they are neck and neck so far, Mario had a better premiere, Wii Party only performed better than MP8 in the 5th week, only one week so far.

Wii Party will be getting a boost next week though, so it'll be a good bit ahead. Then it shouldn't drop as much as Mario Party 8 did after Obon.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Full Famitsu sales so that some people understand what I'm talking about.

famitsu 2007 30 23/07/07 29/07/07 01 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 282.389 / 282.389
famitsu 2007 31 30/07/07 05/08/07 01 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 147.084 / 429.473
famitsu 2007 32 06/08/07 12/08/07 02 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 114.445 / 543.918
famitsu 2007 33 13/08/07 19/08/07 01 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 115.709 / 659.627
famitsu 2007 34 20/08/07 26/08/07 04 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 49.539 / 709.166
famitsu 2007 35 27/08/07 02/09/07 04 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 42.770 / 751.936
famitsu 2007 36 03/09/07 09/09/07 03 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 27.784 / 779.720
famitsu 2007 37 10/09/07 16/09/07 06 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 20.933 / 800.653
famitsu 2007 38 17/09/07 23/09/07 06 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 18.584 / 819.237
famitsu 2007 39 24/09/07 30/09/07 14 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 15.628 / 834.865
famitsu 2007 40 01/10/07 07/10/07 14 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 10.405 / 845.270
famitsu 2007 41 08/10/07 14/10/07 20 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 9.488 / 854.758
famitsu 2007 42 15/10/07 21/10/07 23 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 7.814 / 862.572
famitsu 2007 43 22/10/07 28/10/07 26 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 7.878 / 870.450
famitsu 2007 44 29/10/07 04/11/07 26 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 6.837 / 877.287
famitsu 2007 45 05/11/07 11/11/07 23 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 6.804 / 884.091
famitsu 2007 46 12/11/07 18/11/07 28 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 5.493 / 889.584
famitsu 2007 47 19/11/07 25/11/07 xx [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 7.083 / 896.667
famitsu 2007 48 26/11/07 02/12/07 xx [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 7.868 / 904.535
famitsu 2007 49 03/12/07 09/12/07 29 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 13.914 / 918.449
famitsu 2007 50 10/12/07 16/12/07 16 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 29.130 / 947.579
famitsu 2007 51 17/12/07 23/12/07 13 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 60.320 / 1.007.899
famitsu 2007 52 24/12/07 30/12/07 13 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 46.035 / 1.053.934
famitsu 2008 01 31/12/07 06/01/08 09 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 68.175 / 1.122.109
famitsu 2008 02 07/01/08 13/01/08 12 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 16.221 / 1.138.330
famitsu 2008 03 14/01/08 20/01/08 10 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 15.318 / 1.153.648
famitsu 2008 04 21/01/08 27/01/08 15 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 9.352 / 1.163.000
famitsu 2008 05 28/01/08 03/02/08 27 [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 7.173 / 1.170.173
famitsu 2008 08 18/02/08 24/02/08 xx [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - / 1.184.836
famitsu 2008 13 24/03/08 30/03/08 xx [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - / 1.205.242
famitsu 2008 17 21/04/08 27/04/08 xx [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - / 1.216.737
famitsu 2008 19 05/05/08 11/05/08 xx [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - / 1.224.921
famitsu 2008 26 23/06/08 29/06/08 xx [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - / 1.239.716
famitsu 2008 52 22/12/08 28/12/08 xx [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - / 1.310.766
famitsu 2009 13 23/03/09 29/03/09 xx [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - / 1.342.300
famitsu 2009 28 06/07/09 12/07/09 xx [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - / 1.354.885
famitsu 2009 52 21/12/09 27/12/09 xx [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - / 1.376.750
famitsu 2010 13 22/03/10 28/03/10 xx [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - / 1.396.911
 

Spiegel

Member
Re ToPX

Do we have numbers for the GBC game?
The best selling psp Tales are original full 3D games but Namco decided to make a remake of a not that popular gbc game (I think, I'd appreciate if someone knows how many copies that game sold).

This "remake" has always seemed pointless to me. It seemed like after making Hearts they had some free staff and this game was the best choice they could choose, so actually I don't know if these sales are good/bad/okay for Namco.

Also announcing 3 Tales games (including 2 mainline and one sequel to a popular spinoff) the week before releasing the game wasn't the best idea in my opinion.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Spiegel said:
Re ToPX

Do we have numbers for the GBC game?
The best selling psp Tales are original full 3D games but Namco decided to make a remake of a not that popular gbc game (I think, I'd appreciate if someone knows how many copies that game sold).
Posts #18, 21
 

Cygnus X-1

Member
Impressive legs of Wii Party, but I'm happy mostly because of the return in the top 10 of Super Mario Galaxy 2. I'm really hoping it will break someday the million barrier.

Chris1964 said:
This week it's Obon in Japan and Wii Party will go (way?) up. Last year Wii Sports Resort went from 73.089 to 104.972.

Wikipedia said:
Obon (&#12362;&#30406;) or just Bon (&#30406;) is a Japanese Buddhist custom to honor the departed (deceased) spirits of one's ancestors. This Buddhist custom has evolved into a family reunion holiday during which people return to ancestral family places and visit and clean their ancestors' graves, and when the spirits of ancestors are supposed to revisit the household altars. It has been celebrated in Japan for more than 500 years and traditionally includes a dance, known as Bon-Odori.

The festival of Obon lasts for three days; however its starting date varies within different regions of Japan. When the lunar calendar was changed to the Gregorian calendar at the beginning of the Meiji era, the localities in Japan reacted differently and this resulted in three different times of Obon. "Shichigatsu Bon" (Bon in July) is based on the solar calendar and is celebrated around 15 July in areas such as Tokyo, Yokohama and the Tohoku region. "Hachigatsu Bon" (Bon in August) is based on the solar calendar, is celebrated around the 15th of August and is the most commonly celebrated time. "Kyu Bon" (Old Bon) is celebrated on the 15th day of the seventh month of the lunar calendar, and so differs each year. "Kyu Bon" is celebrated in areas like the northern part of the Kant&#333; region, Ch&#363;goku, Shikoku, and the Southwestern islands. These three days are not listed as public holidays but it is customary that people are given leave.

For everyone who does not know Obon. Included myself.
 
SlipperySlope said:
These numbers I think change a few assumptions from just a few weeks ago (which are where the home of the Tales games should be).

[Snipped for brevity]

Anyone else want to chime in?

I would suggest perhaps releasing a version on all three viable platforms - for the purposes of the discussion I'm thinking PS3, Wii and PSP - would be the best route. The Tales style plays to the graphical weaknesses of the Wii/PSP platforms, and given that the games aren't particularly demanding you could have a nice dev setup building for Wii, porting down to PSP and up to PS3 without the issues you would have with something like, say, Dead Rising.

Frankly, I'm surprised that releasing a version of your main titles on all major platforms isn't already more common in Japan. Look at Basara 3 - it's going to end up selling most on the PS3, but once the Wii version tops out Capcom will have another 90-100k sold on top of wherever the PS3 version ends up, as well as bringing their game to another audience.
 

duckroll

Member
I'll chip in about how I feel regarding Narikiri Dungeon X in terms of sales.

Remember when several people were saying some time last year that Namco should most definitely just make a "real" Tales RPG for the PSP, and I disagree because I felt that the actual RPG audience for the series are on consoles (more specifically on the PS3 now), and that the PSP games sold really well because the audience "expects" fanservice games to be portable yet not a ton of them care to actually play a full RPG like Tales on portables?

Yeah, I think what we're looking at is evidence of this. The fanbase already knows that more mainline major RPGs are coming out on the PS3 in the near future. There is a Graces port coming in December, and next year there will be a brand new Tales on the PS3. They also know that Radiant Mythology 3 is coming out early next year, which is what they probably want anyway. Narikiri Dungeon X might have lots of ToP fanservice, but it doesn't have crossover fanservice for the ENTIRE series of Tales.

The game will end up doing about 200k like all Tales games do at least, which isn't bad considering it's an escort title. But I really don't think Namco has any reason to make an original non-fanservice Tales game on the PSP at all. They should keep releasing stuff like Radiant Mythology and Tales of Versus instead, while putting their main resources on consoles.
 
duckroll said:
I'll chip in about how I feel regarding Narikiri Dungeon X in terms of sales.

Remember when several people were saying some time last year that Namco should most definitely just make a "real" Tales RPG for the PSP, and I disagree because I felt that the actual RPG audience for the series are on consoles (more specifically on the PS3 now), and that the PSP games sold really well because the audience "expects" fanservice games to be portable yet not a ton of them care to actually play a full RPG like Tales on portables?

Yeah, I think what we're looking at is evidence of this. The fanbase already knows that more mainline major RPGs are coming out on the PS3 in the near future. There is a Graces port coming in December, and next year there will be a brand new Tales on the PS3. They also know that Radiant Mythology 3 is coming out early next year, which is what they probably want anyway. Narikiri Dungeon X might have lots of ToP fanservice, but it doesn't have crossover fanservice for the ENTIRE series of Tales.

The game will end up doing about 200k like all Tales games do at least, which isn't bad considering it's an escort title. But I really don't think Namco has any reason to make an original non-fanservice Tales game on the PSP at all. They should keep releasing stuff like Radiant Mythology and Tales of Versus instead, while putting their main resources on consoles.

Why incorporate an Or strategy instead of an And strategy?
 
SlipperySlope said:
Why incorporate an Or strategy instead of an And strategy?

I'd assume that the best reason for doing so would be limited dev resources - in that case, you want to direct your time, money and manpower to developing on the platform that will give you the best return for your investment.
 

duckroll

Member
SlipperySlope said:
Why incorporate an Or strategy instead of an And strategy?

Because when you release 2-3 games a year. you don't want all of them to be the same thing (big main RPG) otherwise as we have actually SEEN in the last few years, you basically destroy interest. People get burnt out, and they're less interested. That's why main Tales sales declined from over 500k to under 500k.

If you're going to want to release 2-3 games a year anyway, it makes sense to have one main game on consoles, supported by fanservice games developed externally which has shown to be a release format that the fanbase embraces. They don't mind buying a silly crossover game in Summer, and then a major Tales RPG in Winter.
 
Personally, I'm just glad that Namco can finally focus on a single platform for main titles and another for spinoffs/quick ports like with PS1/GBC and PS2/GBA.

PS3/PSP certainly took long enough :p

At least I hope going into the next gen, they don't get into the same mess.
 
Looking at the Wii LTD and weekly sales, it's becoming increasingly clear that it won't ever reach the PS2. PS3 LTD may even over the long term come to compare favourably with it in a hypothetical scenario where this generation does last ten years.

Interesting.

Don't have much more to add other than the fact that the Miis seem to have replace Mario as Nintendo's go-to mascot for "new" IPs.
 
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