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[Oldschool]

I think he means the cat spinoff MH game.

Yep.

It will be out next week.

 

[Road]

Dengeki Sales, Aug 09 - 15, 2010:

01 / 02 [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 129,359 / 731,123
02 / 03 [PS3] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom) - 40,822 / 346,937
03 / 01 [PSP] Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon X (Bandai Namco) - 32,011 / 145,847
04 / 04 [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva 2nd (Sega) - 26,863 / 306,141
05 / 11 [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo) - 20,847 / 785,882
06 / 06 [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: Sekai e no Chousen!! Spark (Level 5) - 20,200 / 430,610
07 / 19 [NDS] Art Academy DS (Nintendo) - 18,339 / 141,046
08 / 12 [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: Sekai e no Chousen!! Bomber (Level 5) - 17,928 / 369,369
09 / 15 [NDS] Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Dororon! Yokai Daikessen!! (Bandai Namco) - 17,917 / 177,102
10 / 07 [NDS] Tetris Party Premium (Hudson) - 17,780 / 33,930
11 / 21 [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo) - 15,553 / ?
12 / 13 [WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix) - 15,289 / 223,891
13 / 05 [WII] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom) - 14,367 / 85,375
14 / 00 [PSP] Corpse Party: Blood Covered Repeated Fear (5pb.) - 13,670 / 13,670
15 / 17 [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 13,485 / 113,247
16 / 14 [NDS] Kamen Rider Battle: Ganbaride Card Battle Taisen (Bandai Namco) - 12,478 / 81,851
17 / 08 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Shin Monshou no Nazo - Hikari to Kage no Eiyuu (Nintendo) - 12,321 / 230,759
18 / 23 [NDS] Harvest Moon: Futago no Mura (Marvelous Entertainment) - 11,506 / 11,506
19 / 09 [NDS] Heart Catch PreCure! Oshare Collection (Bandai Namco) - 11,439 / 27,039
20 / 26 [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 10,731 / ?



Other software (LTD):
[PS2] Sengoku Basara 2 (Capcom) - 284,000
[PS2] Sengoku Basara 2 (Playstation 2 the Best) (Capcom) - 140,000




Notes:
1) Obon week throughout the years:

	HARDWARE	SOFTWARE

2007	325,000		1,548,000
2008	233,000		1,369,000
2009	207,000		1,284,000
2010	163,000		1,006,000

(Units.)

Hardware |  This Week |  Last Week |    YTD     |    LTD
------------------------------------------------------------
NDS      |     59,908 |     45,172 |  1,630,688 | 30,595,385
PSP      |     35,763 |     29,415 |  1,428,370 | 14,817,762
PS3      |     34,353 |     27,929 |  1,030,348 |  5,515,046
WII      |     26,266 |     19,061 |  1,086,383 | 10,631,819
360      |     	5,096 |      5,886 |    172,708 |  1,381,363
PS2      |     	1,928 |      1,311 |     	| 		
------------------------------------------------------------
Total    |    163,314 |    128,774 |

http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/292/292897/
http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/548/548741/
http://research.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/054/54360/index.html

Aug 02 - 08
Jul 26 - Aug 01
Jul 19 - 25
Jul 12 - 18
Jul 05 - 11
Jun 28 - Jul 04
Jun 21 - 27, 2010

 

[duckroll]

arent musou titles pretty interchangable though

What do you mean by that? That's like saying that all fighting games are interchangable.

 

[farnham]

What do you mean by that? That's like saying that all fighting games are interchangable.

well i meant that sengoku just got replaced by gundam or hokuto no ken musou

 

[duckroll]

well i meant that sengoku just got replaced by gundam or hokuto no ken musou

No, they're different series which appeal to different audiences. There is no "replacement" at all. There's Shin Sangoku Musou (Romance of the Three Kingdoms, set in China), Sengoku Musou (Japanese feudal era, set in Japan), Musou Orochi (crossover between Shin Sangoku and Sengoku, features characters from both series), Gundam Musou (Gundam crossover universe, published by Bandai Namco), and Hokuto Musou (Fist of the North Star game, aimed at much older fans, much more violence).

Totally different series for different types of audiences. The core gameplay is similar in the sense that they're all in the same genre and they're all by Omega Force, but beyond that the story, setting, characters, specific gameplay systems, level design, etc are all totally different. There were new installments of Shin Sangoku Musou, Sengoku Musou, Musou Orochi, and Gundam Musou very close together too, so there's no way that they have replaced each other in any way. The sales between the different series are pretty different too.

 

[onken]

Speaking of Koei, where the fuck are the Musous? Last one was Hokuto just before fiscal year ended for some needed make-up.

Then nothing. Nothing on the horizon other than the western vaporware Troy Musou.
Shin Sangoku Musou 5 Xtreme Legends? Shin Sangoku Musou 6? Sengoku Musou 3 Special? Sengoku Musou 3 Empires? Warriors Orochi 3? Gundam Musou 3? Hokuto Musou 2?

I don't know whats more surprising, that nearly 5 months in the fiscal year there has been 0 musou and there are 0 announced, or that Koei hasn't announced bankruptcy yet given that.

I guess they're still riding high on good Hokutou Musou sales, though yeah they need to announce something asap. I think a new Orochi could be next, Z has had very good word of mouth and still costs 5000Y+ second hand, a sequel should do quite well.

 

[noobie]

Dengeki Sales, Aug 09 - 15, 2010:

01 / 02 [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 129,359 / 731,123
02 / 03 [PS3] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom) - 40,822 / 346,937
03 / 01 [PSP] Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon X (Bandai Namco) - 32,011 / 145,847
04 / 04 [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva 2nd (Sega) - 26,863 / 306,141
05 / 11 [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo) - 20,847 / 785,882
06 / 06 [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: Sekai e no Chousen!! Spark (Level 5) - 20,200 / 430,610
07 / 19 [NDS] Art Academy DS (Nintendo) - 18,339 / 141,046
08 / 12 [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: Sekai e no Chousen!! Bomber (Level 5) - 17,928 / 369,369
09 / 15 [NDS] Taiko no Tatsujin DS: Dororon! Yokai Daikessen!! (Bandai Namco) - 17,917 / 177,102
10 / 07 [NDS] Tetris Party Premium (Hudson) - 17,780 / 33,930
11 / 21 [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo) - 15,553 / ?
12 / 13 [WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix) - 15,289 / 223,891
13 / 05 [WII] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom) - 14,367 / 85,375
14 / 00 [PSP] Corpse Party: Blood Covered Repeated Fear (5pb.) - 13,670 / 13,670
15 / 17 [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) - 13,485 / 113,247
16 / 14 [NDS] Kamen Rider Battle: Ganbaride Card Battle Taisen (Bandai Namco) - 12,478 / 81,851
17 / 08 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Shin Monshou no Nazo - Hikari to Kage no Eiyuu (Nintendo) - 12,321 / 230,759
18 / 23 [NDS] Harvest Moon: Futago no Mura (Marvelous Entertainment) - 11,506 / 11,506
19 / 09 [NDS] Heart Catch PreCure! Oshare Collection (Bandai Namco) - 11,439 / 27,039
20 / 26 [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 10,731 / ?



Other software (LTD):
[PS2] Sengoku Basara 2 (Capcom) - 284,000
[PS2] Sengoku Basara 2 (Playstation 2 the Best) (Capcom) - 140,000




Notes:
1) Obon week throughout the years:

	HARDWARE	SOFTWARE

2007	325,000		1,548,000
2008	233,000		1,369,000
2009	207,000		1,284,000
2010	163,000		1,006,000

(Units.)

Hardware |  This Week |  Last Week |    YTD     |    LTD
------------------------------------------------------------
NDS      |     59,908 |     45,172 |  1,630,688 | 30,595,385
PSP      |     35,763 |     29,415 |  1,428,370 | 14,817,762
PS3      |     34,353 |     27,929 |  1,030,348 |  5,515,046
WII      |     26,266 |     19,061 |  1,086,383 | 10,631,819
360      |     	5,096 |      5,886 |    172,708 |  1,381,363
PS2      |     	1,928 |      1,311 |     	| 		
------------------------------------------------------------
Total    |    163,314 |    128,774 |

http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/292/292897/
http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/548/548741/
http://research.ascii.jp/elem/000/000/054/54360/index.html

Aug 02 - 08
Jul 26 - Aug 01
Jul 19 - 25
Jul 12 - 18
Jul 05 - 11
Jun 28 - Jul 04
Jun 21 - 27, 2010

is Obon week becoming more like a normal week or this year was a special case.? this year its half of 2007 units.. n 33% less software than 2007..

 

[sprsk]

Basara succeeded because:

A. The game is much better than Sengoku Musou.
B. The Anime is popular.
C. The Merchandising is popular.
4. Basically Capcom built a multimedia property out of a game and succeeded whereas Koei just put out sequels.

 

[Busaiku]

I don't think the U.S. looks so untouchable.

It's important to note, that as far as Nintendo is concerned, DS sales have dropped the most this year (relatively) in the US.
Hardware sales in their Q4 2010 compared to their Q4 2009, so it's definitely slowed down drastically since its great 2009 (calender year).
Software's still strongest in the US though.

But either way, as GBA has shown, Nintendo probably wouldn't want to miss out on the crucial holiday season in the US just because their previous system is doing alright.
As GBA has also shown, the US is far more likely to support both systems anyway.

 

[onken]

is Obon week becoming more like a normal week or this year was a special case.? this year its half of 2007 units.. n 33% less software than 2007..

Mainly because Wii and DS are dropping off now.

 

[cvxfreak]

Basara succeeded because:

A. The game is much better than Sengoku Musou.
B. The Anime is popular.
C. The Merchandising is popular.
4. Basically Capcom built a multimedia property out of a game and succeeded whereas Koei just put out sequels.

5. Capcom made it multiplatform on the top 2 systems. :lol

 

[Michan]

is Obon week becoming more like a normal week or this year was a special case.? this year its half of 2007 units.. n 33% less software than 2007..

The console life cycle is maturing. Plus, the Wii/DS are no longer as sought-after as they were 2 - 3 years ago. Add that to the fact that there aren't really any massive titles at the moment and you've got an explanation.

Things will be back up next year, hopefully in time for the busy Easter period.

 

[noobie]

waiting for this week numbers.

 

[thestopsign]

waiting for this week numbers.

You'll be waiting a while. At soonest they are up tomorrow.

 

[Chris1964]

Hey guys, what can we expect for the new Monster Hunter for PSP? Will it be a big hit like MH or Animal Crossing?

Monster Hunter Diary < (1/10)*AVERAGE(Monster Hunter Portable 3rd, Animal Crossing: Wild World)

 

[Chris1964]

No, they're different series which appeal to different audiences. There is no "replacement" at all. There's Shin Sangoku Musou (Romance of the Three Kingdoms, set in China), Sengoku Musou (Japanese feudal era, set in Japan), Musou Orochi (crossover between Shin Sangoku and Sengoku, features characters from both series), Gundam Musou (Gundam crossover universe, published by Bandai Namco), and Hokuto Musou (Fist of the North Star game, aimed at much older fans, much more violence).

Sengoku Musou -> Samurai Warriors
Sangoku Musou, Shin Sangoku Musou -> Dynasty Warriors
Sangoku Shi -> Romance of the Three Kingdoms

I think that's the correct.

 

[Moor-Angol]

Basara succeeded because:

A. The game is much better than Sengoku Musou.
B. The Anime is popular.
C. The Merchandising is popular.
4. Basically Capcom built a multimedia property out of a game and succeeded whereas Koei just put out sequels.

5. PS3 version is sold at very cheap price compared to the standard ones


and i mean new copy, not used

 

[duckroll]

Sengoku Musou -> Samurai Warriors
Sangoku Musou, Shin Sangoku Musou -> Dynasty Warriors
Sangoku Shi -> Romance of the Three Kingdoms

I think that's the correct.

Errr, I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Romance of the Three Kingdoms is a Chinese novel series. There are many, many games based on it. Shin Sangoku Musou is also based on it.

 

[Chris1964]

Errr, I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Romance of the Three Kingdoms is a Chinese novel series. There are many, many games based on it. Shin Sangoku Musou is also based on it.

There's Shin Sangoku Musou (Romance of the Three Kingdoms, set in China)

Romance of the Three Kingdoms isn't Shin Sangoku Musou.

 

[FINALFANTASYDOG]

Romance of the Three Kingdoms isn't Shin Sangoku Musou.

Ancient Roman/Greek mythology isn't god of war either.

Shin Sangoku Musou is pretty unarguably based on Romance of the Three kingdoms.

I think Chris's point though is that the game called Romance of the Three Kingdoms is also called Sangoku Shi in Japanese.

 

[Pureauthor]

Ancient Roman/Greek mythology isn't god of war either.

Shin Sengoku Musou is pretty unarguably based on Romance of the Three kingdoms.

I think Chris's point though is that the game called Romance of the Three Kingdoms is also called Sangoku Shi in Japanese.

Sengoku isn't the same as Sangoku, FYI.

For what it's worth, I like the aesthetic/design of Sengoku Musou over Basara, even if Basara does play better.

 

[duckroll]

Romance of the Three Kingdoms isn't Shin Sangoku Musou.

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Romance of the Three Kingdoms is a story. I'm referring to that. I'm not referring to the strategy games also by Koei. Shin Sangoku Musou is most definitely a Rot3K game. I'm not sure why you're even arguing this.

 

[farnham]

off topic but is there a decent translation of the original romance of three kingdom from Lou Guanzhong in english ?

 

[Pureauthor]

off topic but is there a decent translation of the original romance of three kingdom from Lou Guanzhong in english ?

http://threekingdoms.com/

Scroll down past the strange political bullshit at the top.

 

[farnham]

Ancient Roman/Greek mythology isn't god of war either.

Shin Sengoku Musou is pretty unarguably based on Romance of the Three kingdoms.

I think Chris's point though is that the game called Romance of the Three Kingdoms is also called Sangoku Shi in Japanese.

Sengoku Musou is based on the so called sengoku jidai (&#25126;&#22269;&#26178;&#20195. its the period between the muromatchi and edo bakufu.

Sangoku Musou is based on a novel called romance of the three kingdoms which is based on the historical sangoku jidai (&#19977;&#22269;&#26178;&#20195 which is a period between the han and the jin dynasty

 

[FINALFANTASYDOG]

Sengoku Musou is based on the so called sengoku jidai (&#25126;&#22269;&#26178;&#20195. its the period between the muromatchi and edo bakufu.

Sangoku Musou is based on a novel called romance of the three kingdoms which is based on the historical sangoku jidai (&#19977;&#22269;&#26178;&#20195 which is a period between the han and the jin dynasty

Yeah, sorry I'm aware of the difference, was too caught up in the &#19977;&#22269;&#24535;&#12288;<=>&#12288;&#19977;&#22269;&#28961;&#21452;&#12288;&#12289;&#12288;that I confused my English lettering, if it was Japanese, the kanji would have been easily seen.

Just so I can add something of some input: many Japanese retailer blogs are predicting a sangoku musou 6 announcement at TGS.

 

[farnham]

Yeah, sorry I'm aware of the difference, was too caught up in the &#19977;&#22269;&#24535;&#12288;<=>&#12288;&#19977;&#22269;&#28961;&#21452;&#12288;&#12289;&#12288;that I confused my English lettering, if it was Japanese, the kanji would have been easily seen.

Just so I can add something of some input: many Japanese blogs are predicting a sangoku musou 6 announcement at TGS.

wouldnt really surprise anyone

 

[duckroll]

It's not really a prediction when Play-Asia mysteriously added a listing for Shin Sangoku Musou 6 on Xbox360 this month. :lol

 

[Pureauthor]

It's not really a prediction when Play-Asia mysteriously added a listing for Shin Sangoku Musou 6 on Xbox360 this month. :lol

Wonder where they'll go with character addition/designs.

Also wonder when we'll get Orochi 3.

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu top 10: 16/08/10-22/08/10

01. [PS3] Another Century's Episode R (Bandai Namco)
02. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
03. [PS3] Super Dimensional Game Neptune (Compile Heart)
04. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Spark / Bomber (Level 5)
05. [PS3] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom)
06. [PSP] Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon X (Bandai Namco)
07. [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo)
08. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
09. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva 2 (Sega)
10. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Battle With the Ghouls!! (Bandai Namco)

Another Century's Episode R had the best opening of the series so far.

[PS2] Another Century's Episode (Banpresto) - 175.729 / 254.527
[PS2] Another Century's Episode 2 (Banpresto) - 119.918 / 181.052
[PS2] Another Century's Episode 3: The Final (Banpresto) - 156.693 / 237.041

 

[u_neek]

Another Century's Episode R had the best opening of the series so far.

What do you guys expect the first week numbers to be? I'd say they're well above previous entries.
Did we have a thread with predictions?

 

[Chris1964]

What do you guys expect the first week numbers to be? I'd say they're well above previous entries'.

We 'll know in 2 hours.

 

[Majmun]

I'm just glad that SMG2 is still in the top 10.

 

[Xater]

Famitsu top 10: 16/08/10-22/08/10

01. [PS3] Another Century's Episode R (Bandai Namco)
02. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
03. [PS3] Super Dimensional Game Neptune (Compile Heart)
04. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Spark / Bomber (Level 5)
05. [PS3] Sengoku Basara 3 (Capcom)
06. [PSP] Tales of Phantasia: Narikiri Dungeon X (Bandai Namco)
07. [NDS] Art Academy (Nintendo)
08. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo)
09. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva 2 (Sega)
10. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Battle With the Ghouls!! (Bandai Namco)

Another Century's Episode R had the best opening of the series so far.

[PS2] Another Century's Episode (Banpresto) - 175.729 / 254.527
[PS2] Another Century's Episode 2 (Banpresto) - 119.918 / 181.052
[PS2] Another Century's Episode 3: The Final (Banpresto) - 156.693 / 237.041

And from impressions we have here on GAF it sems to be the worst in the series. :/

Basara succeeded because:

A. The game is much better than Sengoku Musou.
B. The Anime is popular.
C. The Merchandising is popular.
4. Basically Capcom built a multimedia property out of a game and succeeded whereas Koei just put out sequels.

Doesn't it also have a female audience? At least that's what I have been told.

 

[Chris1964]

And from impressions we have here on GAF it sems to be the worst in the series. :/

Impressions from Japanese blogs are the same. If it really has bad word of mouth it will have limited legs.

 

[Xater]

Oh and about future KOEI titles:

I totally expect a Fist of the Northstar 2. They didn't cover the whole story in the first game and it sold pretty well in Japan right? I also think they will do something to release Samurai heroes 3 on other platforms than the Wii.

 

[wrowa]

Oh and about future KOEI titles:

I totally expect a Fist of the Northstar 2. They didn't cover the whole story in the first game and it sold pretty well in Japan right? I also think they will do something to release Samurai heroes 3 on other platforms than the Wii.

Wasn't a PS3 port of SW3 announced one or two weeks ago? Or was that just a hoax?

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Oh and about future KOEI titles:

I totally expect a Fist of the Northstar 2. They didn't cover the whole story in the first game and it sold pretty well in Japan right? I also think they will do something to release Samurai heroes 3 on other platforms than the Wii.

Think the first one sold about 500k so yeah it did well.

 

[Pureauthor]

Oh and about future KOEI titles:

I totally expect a Fist of the Northstar 2. They didn't cover the whole story in the first game and it sold pretty well in Japan right? I also think they will do something to release Samurai heroes 3 on other platforms than the Wii.

They announced a Samurai Warriors 3DS at E3, didn't they?

 

[androvsky]

Whoa, best-selling Idea Factory / Compile Heart game ever with Neptune?

 

[Hero of Legend]

They announced a Samurai Warriors 3DS at E3, didn't they?

That's right, and I think they also have a Dynasty Warriors 3DS underway as well.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Wasn't a PS3 port of SW3 announced one or two weeks ago? Or was that just a hoax?

The scan was fake.

 

[farnham]

Oh and about future KOEI titles:

I totally expect a Fist of the Northstar 2. They didn't cover the whole story in the first game and it sold pretty well in Japan right? I also think they will do something to release Samurai heroes 3 on other platforms than the Wii.

is Sengoku Musou of any importance ? they can release sangoku, gundam and hokuto every year

 

[onken]

Oh and about future KOEI titles:

I totally expect a Fist of the Northstar 2. They didn't cover the whole story in the first game and it sold pretty well in Japan right? I also think they will do something to release Samurai heroes 3 on other platforms than the Wii.

I guess the only problem with that being is they

Spoiler

killed off Raou, Rei, Jaggi and Toki, who's the hell's going to be in it except Ken? :lol

 

[7Th]

Doesn't it also have a female audience? At least that's what I have been told.

"Also"? Basara has huge female audience, it would be a lot more accurate to say that it "also" has a male audience.