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Media Create Sales: Mar 29-Apr 4, 2010

TheThunder said:
I'm not really up on Japanese sales but I don't think the PSP ever had a 1+million week one game. You think that MH3 would be the first ?

Yes, expect a 1 - 2 million first week depending on how much Capcom ships. It is coming out in the winter also. It will be huge.

Pretty interesting it is going up against pokemon. Japan may see a loss of productivity that week.
 

Road

Member
Thanks, bttb!

bttb said:
11. Tales of Vesperia (Bandai Namco Games) - 362359
Up to 2009-12-27 it was at 337,783. Incredible legs (given the circumstances).

Wii Sports also sold considerably under the hood. I guess one more week for NSMBWii to surpass it.

Hero of Legend said:
So are these up 'til now?
I don't know if bttb edited after you asked, but it's up to 03/28.




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Dengeki Sales, Mar. 29 - Apr. 04:

01 / 00 [NDS] Etrian Odyssey III: Seikai no Raihousha (Atlus) - 81,607 / NEW
02 / 01 [PS3] Hokuto Musou (Koei) - 74,692 / 479,492
03 / 00 [PS3] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2010 (Konami) - 68,629 / NEW
04 / 00 [PSP] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2010 (Konami) - 67,709 / NEW
05 / 04 [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 42,533 / 3,624,432
06 / 02 [PS3] Ryuu Ga Gotoku 4: Densetsu wo Tsugumono (Sega) - 35,161 / 502,328
07 / 03 [NDS] Pokemon Ranger: Path of Light (Pokemon) - 35,033 / 361,862
08 / 06 [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo) - 33,083 / 3,000,902
09 / 00 [PSP] Dead or Alive Paradise (Koei Tecmo Games) - 27,479 / NEW
10 / 00 [PS2] Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2010 (Konami) - 25,211 / NEW
11 / 00 [NDS] Nicola Kanshuu: Model Oshare Audition (Alchemist) - 18,221 / NEW
12 / 09 [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 17,953 / 1,789,965
13 / 05 [PS3] God of War III (SCE) - 17,563 / 59,254
14 / 00 [NDS] Hudson x GreeeeN Live!? DeeeeS!? (Hudson) - 14,479 / NEW
15 / 11 [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP the Best Reprint) (Capcom) - 14,278 / 247,541
16 / 08 [PSP] Gundam Assault Survive (Bandai Namco Games) - 13,406 / 136,611
17 / 13 [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 11,311 / ?
18 / 12 [PSP] God Eater (Bandai Namco Games) - 10,800 / 625,357
19 / 18 [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 10,331 / 1,845,377
20 / 14 [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Sky (Ultimate Hits) (Square Enix) - 9,761 / 87,164


Other software (FW / LTD):
[NDS] Etrian Odyssey II: Heroes of Lagaard (Atlus) - 81,000 / 154,000


Code:
Hardware |  This Week |  Last Week |    YTD     |    LTD
------------------------------------------------------------
PSP      |     40,323 |     46,894 |    841,183 | 14,230,575
PS3      |     38,642 |     50,791 |    550,545 |  5,035,243
NDS      |     37,480 |     43,638 |    850,337 | 29,815,034
WII      |     28,639 |     36,953 |    660,727 | 10,206,163
360      |     	2,817 |      3,079 |     64,299 |  1,272,954
PS2      |     	1,852 |      1,861 |     29,289 | 	
------------------------------------------------------------
Total    |    149,753 |    183,216 |  2,996,380 |

Fiscal year 2009 and 2008 comparison.

- Top 10 titles sold 61.1% more than in 2008.

- Number of titles:
Code:
		2009	2008
> 1000k 	  10	   8
200k ~ 500k	  35	  54
< 30k		 163 	 117



http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/252/252680/
http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/513/513181/

Mar 22 - 28, 2010
 

donny2112

Member
Thanks, bttb! :D

neutralgamer02 said:
Yes, expect a 1 - 2 million first week depending on how much Capcom ships.

Games with a > 1.5m opening week:

Final Fantasys
Dragon Quests
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl

I really don't see MHP3 joining that list and certainly not 2 million. ;)
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
bttb said:
Wii Software Top 15
01. Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 3634806
02. New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 3587755
03. Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 3560889
04. Wii Play (Nintendo) - 2776759
05. Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 2607839
06. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo) - 1924424
07. Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 1822725
08. Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 1787860
09. Mario Party 8 (Nintendo) - 1396911
10. Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) - 1215828
11. Monster Hunter 3 (Capcom) - 1016812
12. Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo) - 977178
13. Wario Ware: Smooth Moves (Nintendo) - 647130
14. Taiko no Tatsujin Wii (Bandai Namco Games) - 646709
15. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (Nintendo) - 594157

NSMBW basically has a chance of becoming the best-selling Wii game before its first anniversary. 2D Mario is freaking humongous.
 

duckroll

Member
hxa155 said:
Monster Hunter Portable 3 will definitely do 1 million week one.

I don't think it's certain. MHP as a series is very similar to how certain Nintendo games sell, which is a good indication that the series is very successful and popular among mainstream audiences including kids and people who aren't particularly the type who are super hyped up to rush out and buy a game on the first day.

Certainly, it will do very well in the first week, and I doubt it'll sell less than 900k. Capcom will definitely ship over a million, like they did with MH3, but it doesn't mean it'll sell a million in the first week that easily. Ultimately, it means very little to the series, since it has never been particularly front loaded, and it keeps selling because the interest and appeal is there.
 

onken

Member
Road said:
Thanks, bttb!


Up to 2009-12-27 it was at 337,783. Incredible legs (given the circumstances).

Yup, must be the best performance for a late port since RE4. Great game, deserves it.
 

Spiegel

Member
I can't see MHP3 doing less than 1.5 million in the first week. MHP2G didn't sell >1M in the first week only because Capcom didn't ship enough copies and now the franchise is more than twice as big as it was when that game launched.

MHP3 should be much more frontloaded.
 

donny2112

Member
Spiegel said:
MHP2G didn't sell >1M in the first week only because Capcom didn't ship enough copies

Capcom's first week shipment:
~990K

MHP2G first week sales:
MC: 880K
Fam: 823K

Will MHP3 sell > 1 million first week? Possible, if not likely.
Is it definite? duckroll did a good job explaining why it's not definite and why it won't particularly matter in the long run.
 

Spiegel

Member
That's weird. I though lack of supply was the reason MHP2G had one of the biggest 2nd week ever.

Thanks for the correction, donny.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
donny2112 said:
Capcom's first week shipment:
~990K

MHP2G first week sales:
MC: 880K
Fam: 823K
Media Create had an estimated shipment of 920k. For them (and from reports from Japanese retailers) there was a first week sellout.
 

donny2112

Member
Spiegel said:
That's weird. I though lack of supply was the reason MHP2G had one of the biggest 2nd week ever.

Going with MC's sales numbers, it still would've had 89% sell-through on the first week and needed a 400K second week shipment just to cover the sales that week. That indicates that supply wasn't flowing freely on that first week, at least.

Spiegel said:
Thanks for the correction, donny.

As pointed out by Chris1964 above, MC's estimated first week shipment was 7% less than Capcom's reported first week shipment. There may be some statistical worth in using MC's shipment estimate with MC's sales estimate, but the actual shipment according to Capcom was 0.99m.
 

Hesemonni

Banned
Games industry sometimes really blows donkey balls, but looking at #1s like this make me a happy panda. Now, hurry up that localization :)
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
MH3P vs. Pokemon Black/White will be an epic battle - damn.
 
cw_sasuke said:
MH3P vs. Pokemon Black/White will be an epic battle - damn.

Yep!

But is it fair to expect Pokemon to come on top? I think it will, I also expect a higher first week.

Even for one version, maybe that too.

Didn't the previous pairs do over 1 Million for each version 1st week?
 

justchris

Member
Hero of Legend said:
Yep!

But is it fair to expect Pokemon to come on top? I think it will, I also expect a higher first week.

Even for one version, maybe that too.

Didn't the previous pairs do over 1 Million for each version 1st week?

If Nintendo cleverly release the 3DS around the same time as Pokemon Black/White, and add 3DS enhancements to PB/W, then I think that will give both the 3DS and Pokemon itself a fairly large boost, which should be more than enough to push it past MHP3.
 

Mr.Wuggles

Neo Member
cw_sasuke said:
MH3P vs. Pokemon Black/White will be an epic battle - damn.

call me crazy, but i actually think MHP3 will outsell PKMN B&W in the long run. B&W might have a better first week, but i think MHP3 will have longer legs, ultimately outselling gen5.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
justchris said:
If Nintendo cleverly release the 3DS around the same time as Pokemon Black/White, and add 3DS enhancements to PB/W, then I think that will give both the 3DS and Pokemon itself a fairly large boost, which should be more than enough to push it past MHP3.
When HG/SS sells more than 4 million is there any doubt that Black/White will sell more than 5 million, even without 3DS? Pokemon Co. has set D/P as sales target which means 5,5-6 million.

Mr.Wuggles said:
call me crazy, but i actually think MHP3 will outsell PKMN B&W in the long run. B&W might have a better first week, but i think MHP3 will have longer legs, ultimately outselling gen5.
You are crazy.
 
I remember the pokemon that was released in 2008 had a bigger first week than MHFU but that year MH went on to be the best selling game on all platforms and it sold better LTD than pokemon (Platinum?)

It sure will be an interesting period for the Japanese market.
 

justchris

Member
Chris1964 said:
When HG/SS sells more than 4 million is there any doubt that Black/White will sell more than 5 million, even without 3DS? Pokemon Co. has set D/P as sales target which means 5,5-6 million.

There is always doubt, but yeah, it doesn't seem very likely. And someone posted above that expectations for MHP3 were 5 million. It could be close.

But it probably isn't going to be.
 

cvxfreak

Member
Would be interesting to see MHP3 outsell MHP2G. Don't think it'll happen, since few of Capcom's number 3 games do as well as the number 2. Incidentally though, MH3 is one of those few. :lol
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
cvxfreak said:
Would be interesting to see MHP3 outsell MHP2G. Don't think it'll happen, since few of Capcom's number 3 games do as well as the number 2. Incidentally though, MH3 is one of those few. :lol

What else besides RE2 are we talking about here? Rockman 2? Onimusha II? Certainly not Viewtiful Joe 2. I could see it happening with Lost Planet 2...
 

cvxfreak

Member
Man God said:
What else besides RE2 are we talking about here? Rockman 2? Onimusha II? Certainly not Viewtiful Joe 2. I could see it happening with Lost Planet 2...

Biohazard 2 > Biohazard 3
Onimusha 2 > Onimusha 3
Devil May Cry 2 > Devil May Cry 3
Street Fighter II > Street Fighter III
Street Fighter Alpha 2 > Street Fighter Alpha 3
Rockman Zero 2 > Rockman Zero 3

Examples of the contrary:

Monster Hunter 3 > Monster Hunter 2
Rockman EXE 3 > Rockman EXE 2
 

m.i.s.

Banned
test_account said:
DS reaching 30 million units sold next week, maybe? :) Amazing sales!

Just 33540 to go. It should've already passed it last week (April 5th - 11th) unless DS has another slow week.
 

cvxfreak

Member
duckroll said:
Phoenix Wright 3 > Phoenix Wright 2

This one's interesting.

Phoenix Wright 3 GBA > Phoenix Wright 2 GBA
Phoenix Wright 2 DS > Phoenix Wright 3 DS

They're pretty close to each other, but it is pretty true that PW3 brought the series' popularity forward. That said, how could I forget to list Phoenix Wright. :lol
 

duckroll

Member
Breath of Fire 3 could very well also be higher than Breath of Fire 2. BoF3 sold 420k or so lifetime, while BoF2 seems to have sold about 150k in 6-7 weeks before it vanishes off the charts.

As far as PW goes, only the GBA ones should count. Otherwise we'll have to start digging up sales for all ports and budget re-releases to compare too. :p
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
PW 3 selling more doesn't surprise me, it's the better game by far.

Though that doesn't always mean anything when it comes to sales, I mean, DMC2 over 3 is practically a hate crime.

Surprised as hell about Alpha 2 though as there are so many versions of Alpha 3.
 

cvxfreak

Member
Man God said:
PW 3 selling more doesn't surprise me, it's the better game by far.

Though that doesn't always mean anything when it comes to sales, I mean, DMC2 over 3 is practically a hate crime.

Surprised as hell about Alpha 2 though as there are so many versions of Alpha 3.

The Saturn version of Alpha 2 sold 309,593 and the PS1 version sold 538,532. Alpha 2 PS1 is a bit above Alpha 3 PS1, but the Dreamcast, GBA and PSP versions of Alpha 3 had pretty lol-worthy sales.
 

duckroll

Member
Capcom is one of the few companies where we can actually have a serious discussion about "entry 3 selling more than entry 2", and have a wide range of franchises to compare sales with. :lol
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
cvxfreak said:
The Saturn version of Alpha 2 sold 309,593 and the PS1 version sold 538,532. Alpha 2 PS1 is a bit above Alpha 3 PS1, but the Dreamcast, GBA and PSP versions of Alpha 3 had pretty lol-worthy sales.

What about the ever important SFC sales??? :lol
 

cvxfreak

Member
duckroll said:
Capcom is one of the few companies where we can actually have a serious discussion about "entry 3 selling more than entry 2", and have a wide range of franchises to compare sales with. :lol

The ability to have this discussion is a miracle considering the complications brought forth by the Capcom milk machine.

If/when MHP3rd outsells MHP2nd, but not 2nd G, does that count? :lol
 

Spiegel

Member
Thanks to this (page 16) now we know sales expectations and actual sales for Atlus games.


Japan:

- Shin Megami Tensei STRANGE JOURNEY (DS) - 152k sold / 170k expected
- Persona 3 Portable (PSP) - 225k sold / 170k expected

NA:

- Persona (PSP) - 49k sold / 35k expected
- Demon's Souls (PS3) - 280k sold / 75k expected
- 101 in 1 Party Megamix (Wii) - 189k sold / 100k expected
 

duckroll

Member
cvxfreak said:
The ability to have this discussion is a miracle considering the complications brought forth by the Capcom milk machine.

If/when MHP3rd outsells MHP2nd, but not 2nd G, does that count? :lol

I would say yes. But if MHP3 outsells MHP2 (not 2G), then I think we should look to see if MHP3G will outsell MHP3 (and MHP2G). That will be a good indication of the sort of growth the series has.

Spiegel said:
Thanks to this (page 16) now we know sales expectations and actual sales for Atlus games.


Japan:

- Shin Megami Tensei STRANGE JOURNEY (DS) - 152k sold / 170k expected
- Persona 3 Portable (PSP) - 225k sold / 170k expected

NA:

- Persona (PSP) - 49k sold / 35k expected
- Demon's Souls (PS3) - 280k sold / 75k expected
- 101 in 1 Party Megamix (Wii) - 189k sold / 100k expected

This indicates to me that Atlus actually had difficulty restocking SJ, as opposed to them not being interested in shipping more copies. I bet using a 1gbit cart factored into their problems. The same thing happened with Infinite Space for Sega. It seems if you have a low print run for a 1gbit game, and demand is higher than expected, you can't immediately ship more as fast as you would need to capitalize on the demand.
 
demon's soul sold 280k in US alone? that's pretty high for the game.

how much did it sell in japan? 170k?

it sold almost 500k copies, not bad at all. factoring in a PAL release it should be able to reach 600k copies, possibly something more.
 

duckroll

Member
Hero of Legend said:
Shame we didn't get NA numbers for Shiren the Wanderer Wii, has Atlus said anything sales-wise about it?

I don't think you want to know how much it sold. Your heart probably can't take it. :p
 

Man God

Non-Canon Member
There's a very simple way to find out if it sold within expectations though. If Atlus publishes the next Shiren game stateside, you'll know it was a success! :lol
 

ccbfan

Member
duckroll said:
I would say yes. But if MHP3 outsells MHP2 (not 2G), then I think we should look to see if MHP3G will outsell MHP3 (and MHP2G). That will be a good indication of the sort of growth the series has.

MHP is some whack phenomenon rarely ever seen in the industry. Every time its looks like growth have finally levelled off, it just keep out performing.

When MHP came out everyone barely noticed it and said it was a pokemon clone PS2 port. The series went out to be a surprise hit.

Then MHP2 came out and people were predicting it might make 1 million before budget release. The series grew to being one of the top 3rd party franchises in Japan.

Then MHP2G came out and most people didn't think it would outsell MHP2. I mean expansion+ rarely ever outsell the original. The series grew to become the 2nd biggest 3rd party franchise in Japan (Maybe the 2nd best selling 3rd party game ever in Japan too) and the best selling non-Nintendo, non S-E game ever.

Who knows what MHP3 could do. All I know is never underestimate a MH game on the PSP.

Pokemon will still destroy it though
 

cvxfreak

Member
What a trooper.

Let's start a prediction game! How many weeks will Galaxy 2 be above NSMB Wii on the tracker of your choice? :lol

I vote 4.
 
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