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[HK-47]

I didnt think the DS was gonna get another 5 million seller after BA2 made it. Maybe Friend Collection matches Animal Crossing?

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

I'll get my prediction in nice and early so there won't be any bitchin :lol

Super early dude, its not like the game is out already :lol

 

[duckroll]

Man, it must be so hard for doicare to make that prediction. It's not like there was an official announcement that the game has the highest initial shipment in the series history or anything. Nope.

 

[BishopLamont]

PSP 39,125
Wii 31,460
PS3 26,481
DSi LL 21,604
DSi 13,581
DS Lite 3,920
Xbox 360 2,668
PS2 1,825
PSP go 1,191


Japan, you are not sending Nintendo the right message!!

Japan isn't the only one.

 

[Moor-Angol]

As far as we know, new Mario DS has become the top seller DS title or at least until the half year chart

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

As a Banchoholic, I am pleased with this.

 

[Road]

Dengeki Sales, Mar. 8 - 14:

01 / 01 [NDS] Pokemon Ranger: Path of Light (Pokemon) - 61,984 / 225,579
02 / 03 [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 35,580 / 3,494,939
03 / 06 [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo) - 35,291 / 2,896,096
04 / 00 [PSP] Shin Sangoku Musou: Multi Raid 2 (Koei) - 35,200 / NEW
05 / 00 [PSP] Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaikida 3D (SCE) - 34,614 / NEW
06 / 00 [PS3] Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (Electronic Arts) - 31,394 / NEW
07 / 00 [PSP] Zettai Hero: Kaizou Keikaku (Nippon Ichi Software) - 27,268 / NEW
08 / 00 [NDS] RPG Maker DS (Enterbrain) - 23,275 / NEW
09 / 09 [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 22,125 / 1,746,078
10 / 08 [PSP] God Eater (Bandai Namco Games) - 20,640 / 584,711

11 / 05 [PSP] Kenka Bancho 4: Ichinen Sensou (Spike) - 20,137 / 127,754
12 / 07 [NDS] Dragon Quest IX: Sentinels of the Starry Sky (Ultimate Hits) (Square Enix) - 18,750 / 49,880
13 / 10 [PS3] Resident Evil 5: Alternative Edition (Capcom) - 15,518 / 254,082
14 / 02 [PSP] .hack//Link (Bandai Namco Games) - 14,995 / 75,605
15 / 04 [PS3] Nobunaga no Yabou: Tendou (Koei) - 14,431 / 52,537
16 / 12 [NDS] Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Reverie (Square Enix) - 12,789 / 1,282,547
17 / 00 [360] Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (Electronic Arts) - 12,194 / NEW
18 / 16 [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP the Best Reprint) (Capcom) - 11,663 / 200,163
19 / 15 [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 10,744 / 1,812,877
20 / 11 [PSP] Minna no Tennis Portable (SCE) - 10,200 / 73,258

xx / 00 [PS2] Summon Night: Gran-Thesis - Horobi no Ken to Yakusoku no Kishi (Bandai Namco Games) - 6,276 / NEW
xx / 00 [PSP] Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars (CyberFront) - 4,994 / NEW
xx / 00 [PSP] Battle Spirits: Hero's Soul (Bandai Namco Games) - 4,706 / NEW


Other software (FW / LTD):
[WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - ? / 3,474,000
[PSP] Shin Sangoku Musou: Multi Raid (Koei) - 210,000 / 401,000
[PSP] Yuusha no Kuse ni Namaikida or2 (SCE) - 60,000 / 204,000


Notes:
- Software this week - 956,000 (-15.2% compared to last week).

Hardware |  This Week |  Last Week |    YTD     |    LTD
------------------------------------------------------------
PSP      |     46,415 |     62,654 |    712,748 | 14,102,140
NDS      |     40,174 |     44,523 |    732,294 | 29,696,999
WII      |     29,417 |     32,326 |    567,130 | 10,112,566
PS3      |     26,441 |     28,585 |    416,283 |  4,900,981
360      |     	4,291 |      4,597 |     54,546 |  1,263,201
PS2      |     	1,687 |      1,716 |     23,987 |
------------------------------------------------------------
Total    |    148,425 |    174,401 |  2,506,988 |

http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/246/246825/
http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/507/507442/
http://dps.dengeki.com/2010/03/19/p15141/

Mar. 1 - 7, 2010

 

[Brofist]

Not really sales related but I was checking out trade-in rates for PS3 games at Tsutaya today.
Hope anyone looking to trade in FFXIII already did so.

 

[faridmon]

Strikeforce 2 sucks and sells bad. Who'da guessed.

Zettai Hero...

is this any good though?

yes, but before you get excited, 3d stands for "third", not for "three dimensions".

:lol :lol :lol making fun of us gamers. love it.

 

[test_account]

Not really sales related but I was checking out trade-in rates for PS3 games at Tsutaya today.
Hope anyone looking to trade in FFXIII already did so.

http://i43.tinypic.com/307u6ap.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/elbs4i.jpg

Only a 200 yen trade-in value for FFXIII? That is quite a low amount of money for a game indeed. I guess that pretty much everyone who had had interest in playing FFXIII have already bought, rented or borrowed the game by now.

 

[faridmon]

Only a 200 yen trade-in value for FFXIII? That is quite a low amount of money for a game indeed. I guess that pretty much everyone who had had interest in playing FFXIII have already bought, rented or borrowed the game by now.

they don't have a rental service in Japan. Yeah, thats it for FF XIII. I wonder if the greatest hits will sell more than 2k

 

[wrowa]

they don't have a rental service in Japan. Yeah, thats it for FF XIII. I wonder if the greatest hits will sell more than 2k

lol

 

[justjohn]

No first day sales for yakuza 4?

 

[slaughterking]

No first day sales for anything ever again.

 

[faridmon]

lol

i guess collectors have to collect so it will sell more than that.

10k perhaps?

 

[Tmac]

That trade in pic doesnt make any sense at all. 200 yen = 2 us dollars.

 

[duckroll]

I don't think we should be thinking about a FFXIII budget release so soon. First they need to do an International release in Japan, and how successful that is will depend on how much new content there is in it. FFXII International did very poorly because there was basically no real new content aside from the gameplay system tweaks. FFX International, FFX-2 International and the KH Final Mix games do very, very well because they actually have a ton of new content and extra stuff not found in the original version nor in the US versions.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

That trade in pic doesnt make any sense at all. 200 yen = 2 us dollars.

That doesn't make sense?

Most used shops have dozens of copies of FFXIII that aren't moving even at 2000 yen. How many more do you think they need? It's worth about as much as Madden 09 at this point.

 

[onken]

Yup, makes sense. Still though that does seem pretty low.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

I don't think we should be thinking about a FFXIII budget release so soon. First they need to do an International release in Japan, and how successful that is will depend on how much new content there is in it. FFXII International did very poorly because there was basically no real new content aside from the gameplay system tweaks. FFX International, FFX-2 International and the KH Final Mix games do very, very well because they actually have a ton of new content and extra stuff not found in the original version nor in the US versions.

*10 new corridors
*Needlessly 3D Crystarium now presented in 4D

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Yup, makes sense. Still though that does seem pretty low.

It's basically the "fuck off, we don't want anymore copies" trade-in price. Any higher and they'd get saddled with even more copies destined to do nothing but collect dust for the next xty years.

 

[lowlylowlycook]

That doesn't make sense?

Most used shops have dozens of copies of FFXIII that aren't moving even at 2000 yen. How many more do you think they need? It's worth about as much as Madden 09 at this point.

So is this exceptional compared to other big RPGs or is the low price just due to the huge number sold originally and the relative lack of replayability?

 

[lupinko]

That trade in pic doesnt make any sense at all. 200 yen = 2 us dollars.

Maybe before the end of Bush's second term, it's been 200 JPY = 2.22 USD for quite awhile now.

 

[duckroll]

*10 new corridors
*Needlessly 3D Crystarium now presented in 4D

Are you desperately in need to be a troll? Or are you just dumb?

 

[apujanata]

It's basically the "fuck off, we don't want anymore copies" trade-in price. Any higher and they'd get saddled with even more copies destined to do nothing but collect dust for the next xty years.

I first thought that I can buy FF13 used for only 200 Yen, and I started sending PM to CVX to buy one for me .

Later on, I realized that the 200 Yen is the trade-in price, NOT used purchase price, so I cancel the "PM CVX" thing.
I actually smiled at the bolded part section

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

So is this exceptional compared to other big RPGs or is the low price just due to the huge number sold originally and the relative lack of replayability?

Uh, well, this is the first FF mainline release I've been in Japan for, so I don't know how it is for series standards, but I haven't seen anything quite like this before in my time here. I mean, naturally DQIX didn't do this, but DQIX's been pretty unusual in terms of legs.

For this to happen you basically have to have a huuuuge release (thus putting a lot of copies out there) combined with high upfront demand for used copies (ensuring the used shops will do all they can to get as many copies as they can) followed by a massive drop in demand such that even new copies are going for as low as half-price by seven or eight weeks after release, all wrapped up in no desire/incentive for buyers to keep their copies after completing the game.

I think if any RPG satisfied all these requirements, something similar would happen, but it's rare. FFXIII is kind of a perfect storm of cotton candy.

 

[FINALFANTASYDOG]

Uh, well, this is the first FF mainline release I've been in Japan for, so I don't know how it is for series standards, but I haven't seen anything quite like this before in my time here.

MGS4/ the X-box RPGS were very similar, when you have a game sale to close to 40%
of the install base in less then two weeks, and has very little replay value, it's bound to happen.

I mean, naturally DQIX didn't do this, but DQIX's been pretty unusual in terms of legs.

DQIX actually has replayability though and was purposely designed with measures to slow down the flow to the used market.

 

[distantmantra]

Maybe before the end of Bush's second term, it's been 200 JPY = 2.22 USD for quite awhile now.

Last time I was in Japan, $1 was 117 yen. I'm headed over in a couple weeks and now $1 is 90 yen.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

MGS4/ the X-box RPGS were very similar, when you have a game sale to close to 40%
of the install base in less then two weeks, and has very little replay value, it's bound to happen.



DQIX actually has replayability though and was purposely designed with measures to slow down the flow to the used market.

MGS4 never got as low as 200 yen. I don't think it's even there *now*. Ditto on the Xbox RPGs, though I wasn't here for Blue Dragon (I could easily imagine it being the case for BD especially because of the system bundles).

DQIX was definitely a very intelligently designed game. They really hit all the right notes for maximizing sales on it, and heck, they're still hitting the right notes even now.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Are you desperately in need to be a troll? Or are you just dumb?

Can't it be both?

Sorry if I hit a nerve. I AM an FF whore and having fun with XIII, but those are the first things that came to mind when thinking of the wrong things to expand.

 

[doicare]

Super early dude, its not like the game is out already :lol

Just about early enough to cut down on the bitchin....or not from the looks of things. :lol

Man, it must be so hard for doicare to make that prediction. It's not like there was an official announcement that the game has the highest initial shipment in the series history or anything. Nope.

Do you think if i start making predictions for games that don't even exist yet then people might run out of nice things to say about me?

 

[FINALFANTASYDOG]

MGS4 never got as low as 200 yen..

FFXIII isn't really at 200 yen though, that's just one store that has too many copies, saying they don't need more, you can find a bunch of stores that buy X-BOX360's for 500 yen in the same type of deal.

Just browsing a few of the major sites, the actual buy used copy market price is more in then 1430-1800 range.

 

[Tmac]

Exactly. 200 yen isnt a realistic price. For 2 dollars i whould ratter keep the empty ps3 box for replacement and trow away the actual game in the garbage.

 

[nli10]

So is Strikeforce 2 bad compared to Strikeforce 1 - I haven't seen much pre release about the game anywhere that seemed negative, but haven't seen any post release reviews to compare.

 

[Koren]

Exactly. 200 yen isnt a realistic price. For 2 dollars i whould ratter keep the empty ps3 box for replacement and trow away the actual game in the garbage.

Yes, but this shop prefers keeping their $2 rather than buying a 100th they will probably never sell again and waste space in their attic... It's not so surprising, that's mostly a "do not want" sign.

 

[Chris1964]

Problems with work this week made me very slow. But better late than never.

31. / 14. [NDS] Keroro RPG: The Knight, Warrior, and Legendary Pirate (Namco Bandai)
32. / 19. [NDS] Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Endless Frontier Exceed (Namco Bandai)
33. / 22. [PS3] Star Ocean: The Last Hope - International (Square Enix)
34. / 40. [WII] One Piece: Unlimited Cruise 1 - The Treasure Beneath the Waves (Everyone's Recommendation Selection) (Namco Bandai)
35. / 00. [PS2] S.Y.K.: Renshouden (Idea Factory)
36. / 28. [PSP] Power Pro Success Legends (Konami)
37. / 00. [PSP] Battle Spirits: Hero's Soul (Namco Bandai)
38. / 12. [PSP] Armored Core: Last Raven Portable (From Software)
39. / 41. [PS3] Yakuza 3 (PlayStation 3 the Best) (Sega)
40. / 30. [NDS] Dragon Quest IV: Chapters of the Chosen (Ultimate Hits) (Square Enix)
41. / 45. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii 2 (Namco Bandai)
42. / 39. [PSP] Pop 'n Music Portable (Konami)
43. / 35. [NDS] Prince of Tennis: Prince of School Festival - More Sweet Edition (Konami)
44. / 31. [NDS] Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D’s World Championship 2010: Reverse of Arcadia (Konami)
45. / 43. [PSP] Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep (Square Enix)
46. / 33. [NDS] Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games (Nintendo)
47. / 36. [PS3] Resonance of Fate (Sega)
48. / 44. [NDS] Dragon Ball: Origins 2 - Assault! Red Ribbon Gun (Namco Bandai)
49. / 00. [NDS] Lupin the 3rd: The Biggest Brain Battle in History (Namco Bandai)
50. / 00. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo)

00. / 00. [ALL] Weekly Software Sales (All Publishers) - 922.882 / 14.572.795 (-16%)


NDS - 19
PSP - 14
WII - 7
PS3 - 7
PS2 - 2
360 - 1


HARDWARE

__________________________________________________________________
|System |  This Week  |  Last Week  |        YTD  |         LTD  |
------------------------------------------------------------------
|  PSP  |     40.316  |     66.083  |    727.539  |  14.333.813  |
|  NDS  |     39.105  |     42.944  |    742.120  |  29.840.708  |
|  WII  |     31.460  |     33.880  |    592.335  |  10.033.679  |
|  PS3  |     26.481  |     28.824  |    437.971  |   4.824.970  |
|  360  |      2.668  |      2.764  |     41.867  |   1.244.661  |
|  PS2  |      1.825  |      1.839  |     25.340  |  21.631.494  |
------------------------------------------------------------------
| DSiLL |     21.604  |     23.611  |    355.078  |     791.342  |
|  DSi  |     13.581  |     15.017  |    311.849  |   4.558.334  |
|  DSL  |      3.920  |      4.316  |     75.193  |  17.905.561  |
------------------------------------------------------------------
|  PSP  |     39.125  |     64.808  |    707.086  |  14.241.508  |
| PSPgo |      1.191  |      1.275  |     20.453  |      92.305  |
------------------------------------------------------------------

 

[cvxfreak]

(Dengeki) 13 / 10 [PS3] Resident Evil 5: Alternative Edition (Capcom) - 15,518 / 254,082

Original LTD: 559,000
Total combined: 813K

Still not sure what the 360 LTD is on Dengeki. Wish I could find that number.

 

[vicissitudes]

PSP: 40k
DS: 39k
Wii: 31k
PS3: 26k

Japan not handheld nation anymore?

(Yeah I know the handhelds still sold more, but not by as much! This is HUGE!

Spoiler

Slow week.

)

 

[Galactic Fork]

PSP: 40k
DS: 39k
Wii: 31k
PS3: 26k

Japan not handheld nation anymore?

(Yeah I know the handhelds still sold more, but not by as much! This is HUGE!

Spoiler

Slow week.

)

But looking at software it's 33 games for handhelds to 17 for home consoles.

 

[Moor-Angol]

MGS4 the best is reaching 100k, a good result considering it sold around 40k in 2009

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Someone asked in the previous thread iirc, so here is all I could find over 50k with the most updated totals possible. Famitsu data.

Best selling PS3 budget re-releases (w/original LTD)
1. [PS3] Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Square Enix) - 119,300 (233,257)
2. [PS3] Minna no Golf 5 (SCEJ) - 101,201 (511,253)
3. [PS3] Metal Gear Solid 4 (Konami) - 99,500 (805,961)
4. [PS3] Valkyria Chronicles (Sega) - 82,744 (224,333)
5. [PS3] Yakuza Kenzan (Sega) - 65,236 (335,674)
6. [PS3] Yakuza 3 (Sega) - 58,100 (567,323)

 

[m.i.s.]

PSP: 40k
DS: 39k
Wii: 31k
PS3: 26k

Japan not handheld nation anymore?

(Yeah I know the handhelds still sold more, but not by as much! This is HUGE!

Spoiler

Slow week.

)

Looking at the LTD, DS is at a record 29.8million and PSP at 14.3 million (not bad for an also-ran). In other words, pretty much market saturation.

If DS continues at this pace, it should reach the 30 million LTD milestone by the end of April.

 

[Moor-Angol]

Someone asked in the previous thread iirc, so here is all I could find over 50k with the most updated totals possible. Famitsu data.

Best selling PS3 budget re-releases (w/original LTD)
1. [PS3] Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Square Enix) - 119,300 (233,257)
2. [PS3] Minna no Golf 5 (SCEJ) - 101,201 (511,253)
3. [PS3] Metal Gear Solid 4 (Konami) - 99,500 (805,961)
4. [PS3] Valkyria Chronicles (Sega) - 82,744 (224,333)
5. [PS3] Yakuza Kenzan (Sega) - 65,236 (335,674)
6. [PS3] Yakuza 3 (Sega) - 58,100 (567,323)

thx Kurosaki !

MGS4 the best debut was 3,6k in middle June
at the end of 2009 (6 months) it sold 37k
from January to middle March it sold around 60k and weekly sales are constantly at 3k


interesting to see MGS4 the best sold 22k from the relesase to the end of August (2 months and a half) and this year in the same time the sales were 62k

iirc even Kojima said MGS4 sales were pushed up after new PS3 model was introduced

i wonder how far sales could go, considering MGS has a fanbase around 800k for both PS1 and PS2 chapters

 

[Dresden]

200 yen trade in value for FFXIII, eh? This is clearly because the Japanese version of the game lacked Troy Baker.

 

[Celine]

thx Kurosaki !

i wonder how far sales could go, considering MGS has a fanbase around 800k for both PS1 and PS2 chapters

I thought it was a little bit higher for the PS2 chapters ( including the re-release).

 

[Moor-Angol]

I thought it was a little bit higher for the PS2 chapters ( including the re-release).

i just considered MGS1, MGS2 and MGS3 alone numbers, not counting the best or Subsistance and similar

Considering how low is PS3 userbase compared to PS1 and PS2 when they got a MGS title, i think MGS4 did really well

 

[bttb]

.

 

[duckroll]

I thought it was a little bit higher for the PS2 chapters ( including the re-release).

You can't really count the re-releases as additional fanbase. Not when most of the people buying them most likely bought the original as well. The re-releases are full priced and have substantial additional content.

 

[Stumpokapow]

Famitsu Top 30 Selling Titles
(Gold Cross Review Score or higher)
1996 ~ 2010.02.14

01 [GB] Pokemon Gold/Silver - 6,089,503 (33)
02 [DS] Pokemon Diamond/Pearl - 5,763,120 (35)
03 [DS] New Super Mario Bros. - 5,734,634 (36)
04 [GBA] Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire - 5,337,045 (34)
05 [DS] Animal Crossing: Wild World - 5,129,679 (37)
06 [DS] Dragon Quest 9 - 4,148,104 (40)
07 [PS] Dragon Quest 7 - 3,893,293 (38)
08 [DS] Mario Kart DS - 3,598,139 (37)
09 [DS] Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver - 3,587,970 (37)
10 [PS2] Dragon Quest 8 - 3,555,469 (39)
11 [PS] Final Fantasy 8 - 3,501,588 (37)
12 [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii - 3,329,241 (40)
13 [PS] Final Fantasy 7 - 3,277,776 (38)
14 [GBA] Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen - 3,032,154 (33)
15 [PS] Final Fantasy 9 - 2,707,301 (38)
16 [WII] Mario Kart Wii - 2,563,419 (37)
17 [DS] Pokemon Platinum - 2,530,596 (36)
18 [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G - 2,453,132 (36)
19 [PS2] Final Fantasy 10 - 2,325,215 (39)
20 [PS2] Final Fantasy 12 - 2,322,541 (40)
21 [PS] Gran Turismo - 2,185,375 (35)
22 [PS] Resident Evil 2 - 2,154,975 (37)
23 [GBA] Pokemon Emerald - 2,148,039 (34)
24 [PS2] Final Fantasy 10-2 - 1,960,937 (34)
25 [DS] Nintendogs - 1,940,590 (40)
26 [DS] Mario Party DS - 1,936,670 (33)
27 [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl - 1,912,001 (40)
28 [GB] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland - 1,911,107 (35)
29 [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII - 1,874,708 (39)
30 [GB] Pokemon Crystal - 1,871,307 (34)

Very cool.

Now here's a challenge; what are the top 30 worst selling titles with a gold score or higher?

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Famitsu Top 30 Selling Titles
(Gold Cross Review Score or higher)
1996 ~ 2010.02.14

Not that the list lacks for Pokémon (Gold/Silver in the Top 10 twice), but no original Red/Green?