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Media Create Sales: Week 15, 2014 (Apr 07 - Apr 13)

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saichi

Member
Mory Dunz said:
Not even sure why Vita vs 4DS is even a topic when the Vita hasn't even been competing sales-wise with the 3DS....
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cause VITA is selling a couple thousands more units this week...\

sörine;108431763 said:
Well, even your exceedingly bullish projections would still signal a decline for both platform lines. So I guess it isn't all on Nintendo then?
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12 is almost 20... don't you know?
 
Laughing Banana

Laughing Banana

Weeping Pickle
Vita and 3DS' fans shouldn't be arguing about this beat that, because it looks so sad when someone's dancing on being a victor when the house is all burning all around him.

Instead, we should hold hands together :)

...Really though, it's a bit worrying the trends so far in Japan for fans of traditional gaming.
 
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AniHawk

Member
Laughing Banana said:
Vita and 3DS' fans shouldn't be arguing about this beat that, because it looks so sad when someone's dancing on being a victor when the house is all burning all around him.

Instead, we should hold hands together :)

...Really though, it's a bit worrying the trends so far in Japan for fans of traditional gaming.
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yeah, 20-25k in a week is more what formerly popular systems on their way out do. systems that have been around about five years or so. to see that as the best any platform does in a week is pretty pretty... pretty bad.
 
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cafemomo

Member
DaBoss said:
No.

They went with the colors Gold and Silver.

What other franchise went with those colors for the sequels?

They're gonna try and go big time.
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at least they didn't go with diamond or pearl, otherwise, it would have been a horrid boring mess :^)
 
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Road

Member
According to Japanese blogs, Hino said to Famitsu they have already manufactured 1 million copies of Youkai Watch.

Retailers will probably buy them all. It's just a matter of time now.
 
S

Slixshot

Banned
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V

vinnygambini

Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Road said:
According to Japanese blogs, Hino said to Famitsu they have already manufactured 1 million copies of Youkai Watch.

Retailers will probably buy them all. It's just a matter of time now.
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There it is :)

Youkai Watch now a million-seller title!

Nintendo and Level-5 must be ecstatic - great partnership.
 
E

EmptySpace

Banned
Laughing Banana said:
Vita and 3DS' fans shouldn't be arguing about this beat that, because it looks so sad when someone's dancing on being a victor when the house is all burning all around him.

Instead, we should hold hands together :)

...Really though, it's a bit worrying the trends so far in Japan for fans of traditional gaming.
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and why is that, exactly?

there's way less people in japan than us, europe, etc.

some games here in the west can't even sell 500k, yet those games are still a success to some, especially indie games.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Road said:
According to Japanese blogs, Hino said to Famitsu they have already manufactured 1 million copies of Youkai Watch.

Retailers will probably buy them all. It's just a matter of time now.
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Since supply will finally meet demand we'll see 1 million at sales before Youkai Watch 2 hits.
 
D

Deleted member 125677

Unconfirmed Member
I'm so happy that Vita has managed to maintain a healthy baseline in Japan. Hope we get lots of interestin mid-range japanese games localised over the year!

Well done, little beauty. The Madeleine cake of handhelds. If Proust was alive, you'd be the starting point of a seven volume novel
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
PS3 first 15 weeks

01. 81.639 / 81.639
02. 42.099 / 123.738
03. 32.662 / 156.400
04. 31.436 / 187.836
05. 50.171 / 238.007
06. 70.942 / 308.949
07. 76.882 / 385.831
08. 71.727 / 457.558
09. 69.944 / 527.501
10. 25.531 / 553.032
11. 21.105 / 574.137
12. 19.996 / 594.133
13. 18.727 / 612.860
14. 23.431 / 636.291
15. 20.676 / 656.967


PS4 first 8 weeks

01. 309.154 / 309.154
02. 65.685 / 374.839
03. 35.294 / 410.133
04. 29.677 / 439.810
05. 30.201 / 470.011
06. 23.327 / 493.338
07. 13.401 / 506.739
08. 13.034 / 519.773

2 weeks?
 
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fredrancour

Member
tilinelson2 said:
Why would they want to lose the revenue from the people that buy 2 or 3 pieces of the same hardware?
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I would hazard a guess that the number of people willing to occasionally buy a random piece of software is far larger than the number of people who would buy a whole foreign system.

Maybe the number isn't larger by a wide enough margin though, who knows.
 
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Phoenician_Viking

Banned
Magicpaint said:
The entire argument hinges a lot on 'what if's. Maaaaybe there's room for Vita to grow tremendously via some phenomenon like Monster Hunter or maybe it'll be more like a PS3 that just lingers on. We don't know. What we do know is that current hardware and software sales do not paint a picture of the kind of longevity that'd be necessary for Vita to remain competitive past the conventional lifespan of a handheld. It's crazy that a 25k week is bringing up these 'out there' theories all of a sudden.
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That is not the argument at all. The Vita does not need MH to get more third party support. It´s already getting plenty. Which would make 3DS successor compete with third party coming to Vita.

Lol at anyone who think 4DS will release in 2016. 2015 at the latest.
 
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Atram

Member
Phoenician_Viking said:
That is not the argument at all. The Vita does not need MH to get more third party support. It´s already getting plenty. Which would make 3DS successor compete with third party coming to Vita.

Lol at anyone who think 4DS will release in 2016. 2015 at the latest.
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There is no reason for Nintendo to release a successor for the 3DS in 2015...
 
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Pristine_Condition

Member
Atram said:
There is no reason for Nintendo to release a successor for the 3DS in 2015...
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Maybe. But on the other hand, less than 30k total hardware units across all SKUs in the home territory when you aren't doing well abroad either is unsustainable and bound to create a sense of urgency, even in a traditionally-insular company like Nintendo.
 
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Atram

Member
Pristine_Condition said:
Maybe. But on the other hand, less than 30k total hardware units across all SKUs in the home territory when you aren't doing well abroad either is unsustainable and bound to create a sense of urgency, even in a traditionally-insular company like Nintendo.
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They can fix many with a pricecut or one last revision. Software wise the 3DS is the most healthy platform in Japan (taking the mobile market out).

I didn´t see any reason for Nintendo to release a New HH in 2015.
 
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Foshy

Member
Atram said:
There is no reason for Nintendo to release a successor for the 3DS in 2015...
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There is. Hardware sales are in decline in all territories and support is slowly dwindling down from both first and third party. They have to announce the successor while the 3DS is still fresh and well regarded in everybody's mind, otherwise they're going to end up with a Wii -> Wii U situation again where the old console has been basically dead for the last few years and consumers lost their interest in the brand.

I'm expecting the 3DS successor to hit in early 2015. If they wait too long, it's going to bomb.
 
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Atram

Member
Foshy said:
There is. Hardware sales are in decline in all territories and support is slowly dwindling down from both first and third party. They have to announce the successor while the 3DS is still fresh and well regarded in everybody's mind, otherwise they're going to end up with a Wii -> Wii U situation again where the old console has been basically dead for the last few years and consumers lost their interest in the brand.

I'm expecting the 3DS successor to hit in early 2015. If they wait too long, it's going to bomb.
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early 2015 or bomb.....aaaaaaalright. This is not how this things work. Comparing their HH Business with the console Business sounds very wrong. They have strong 3rd Party boundrys in Japan for their HH and the most of the High Quality HH Games are coming to the 3DS not the Vita.
 
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Magicpaint

Member
Phoenician_Viking said:
That is not the argument at all. The Vita does not need MH to get more third party support. It´s already getting plenty. Which would make 3DS successor compete with third party coming to Vita.

Lol at anyone who think 4DS will release in 2016. 2015 at the latest.
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It definitely needs MH-level of software to even get to the point where such a far fetched argument can be taken seriously, that's for sure. Mediocre numbers do not give us a long term picture of any hardware and the Vita is no exception.
 
W

watershed

Banned
Foshy said:
I'm expecting the 3DS successor to hit in early 2015. If they wait too long, it's going to bomb.
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I fully expect Nintendo to make the same mistake again, especially since their QoL platform must be dominating their hardware division for the next year plus.
 
1

1st Course

Member
Dengeki Sales: Week 15, 2014 (Apr 07 - Apr 13)

01./00. [PS3] 3rd Super Robot Wars Z: Jigoku-Hen (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2014.04.10} - 155.176 / NEW
02./00. [PSV] 3rd Super Robot Wars Z: Jigoku-Hen (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2014.04.10} - 130.400 / NEW
03./02. [3DS] Yokai Watch (LEVEL-5) {2013.07.11} - 36.472 / 686.752
04./01. [3DS] Mario Party Island tour (Nintendo) {2014.03.20} - 28.261 / 287.216
05./00. [PSV] Mato Kurenai Yuugekitai: Tokyo Twilight Ghosthunters (Arc System Works) {2014.04.10} - 14.719 / NEW
06./00. [3DS] Crayon Shin-Chan: Arashi o Yobu Kasukabe Eiga Stars! (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2014.04.10} - 14.090 / NEW
07./04. [PS3] Sengoku Musou 4 (Tecmo Koei Games) {2014.03.20} - 9.783 / 205.712
08./00. [X360] Titan Fall (Electronic Arts) {2014.04.10} - 9.530 / NEW
09./05. [PS3] Metal Gear Solid V ground Zerozu (KONAMI) {2014.03.20} - 8.900 / 200.716
10./00. [PS3] Mato Kurenai Yuugekitai: Tokyo Twilight Ghosthunters (Arc System Works) {2014.04.10} - 8.867 / NEW
11./03. [WIU] JUST DANCE (R) Wii U (Nintendo) {2014.04.03} - 7.289 / 25.986
12./00. [PS3] Dream C Club Gogo. (D3 Publisher) {2014.04.10} - 6.608 / NEW
13./07. [PS3] J Stars Victory Versus (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2014.03.19} - 6.394 / 163.372
14./13. [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe star (Nintendo) {2014.01.11} - 6.139 / 536.682
15./08. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2014 (KONAMI) {2014.03.20} - 6.005 / 95.416
16./10. [3DS] Fossil Fighters: Infinite Gear (Nintendo) {2014.02.27} - 5.867 / 146.399
17./15. [3DS] Pazudora Z (Gung Ho Online Entertainment) {2013.12.12} - 5.661 / 1.410.291
18./06. [PSV] Hatsune Miku-Project DIVA-F 2nd (SEGA) {2014.03.27} - 5.379 / 118.244
19./23. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom) {2013.09.14} - 4.817 / 3.344.303
20./19. [3DS] Harvest Moon: Linking the New World (Marvelous AQL) {2014.02.27} - 4.628 / 201.975
21./09. [PSV] J Stars Victory Versus (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2014.03.19} - 4.549 / 135.657
22./12. [PS3] Dark Souls 2 (From Software) {2014.03.13} - 4.472 / 323.630
23./18. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Iru to Ruka no Fushigi na Fushigi na Kagi (Square Enix) {2014.02.06} - 4.395 / 754.550
24./16. [PSV] Sengoku Musou 4 (Tecmo Koei Games) {2014.03.20} - 4.154 / 73.089
25./22. [WIU] Wii Party U (Nintendo) {2013.10.31} - 4.078 / 673.952
26./11. [PS3] Hatsune Miku-Project DIVA-F 2nd (SEGA) {2014.03.27} - 3.961 / 78.598
27./25. [3DS] Hero bank (SEGA) {2014.03.20} - 3.950 / 31.569
28./24. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} - 3.783 / 1.090.186
29./14. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2014 (KONAMI) {2014.03.20} - 3.678 / 53.987
30./27. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V (Rockstar Games) {2013.10.10} - 3.356 / 667.240
31./21. [PS4] Metal Gear Solid V ground Zerozu (KONAMI) {2014.03.20} - 3.111 / 117.984
32./28. [3DS] Animal Crossing Tobidase (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} - 3.065 / 3.627.688
33./26. [PSV] Pro Baseball Spirits 2014 (KONAMI) {2014.03.20} - 2.779 / 43.275
34./34. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} - 2.747 / 508.003
35./41. [3DS] Battle For Money Sentouchuu: Densetsu no Shinobi no Survival Battle! (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2013.10.17} - 2.735 / 314.652
36./29. [PS3] Winning Post 8 (Tecmo Koei Games) {2014.03.27} - 2.700 / 25.027
37./00. [PSV] Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai (5pb.) {2014.04.10} - 2.546 / NEW
38./36. [3DS] Pokemon X (Pokemon) {2013.10.12} - 2.512 / 2.162.878
39./33. [3DS] Attack on Titan: The Last Wings of Mankind (Spike CHUNSOFT) {2013.12.05} - 2.489 / 269.088
40./20. [PSV] NAtURAL DOCtRINE (Kadokawa Games) {2014.04.03} - 2.226 / 8.852
41./39. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} - 2.212 / 2.234.070
42./35. [PS4] Battlefield 4 (Electronic Arts) {2014.02.22} - 2.206 / 68.611
43./00. [PSP] Houkago Colorful Step: Bunkabu! (honeybee) {2014.04.10} - 2.162 / NEW
44./32. [PSV] Soul Sacrifice delta (SCE) {2014.03.06} - 2.074 / 83.818
45./40. [3DS] Pokemon Y (Pokemon) {2013.10.12} - 2.033 / 1.953.640
46./30. [PS3] NAtURAL DOCtRINE (Kadokawa Games) {2014.04.03} - 1.933 / 6.021
47./42. [WIU] Donkey Kong tropical freeze (Nintendo) {2014.02.13} - 1.926 / 86.465
48./44. [PSV] Phantasy Star Online 2 Episode 2 Deluxe package (SEGA) {2014.03.20} - 1.763 / 25.076
49./17. [PS4] NAtURAL DOCtRINE (Kadokawa Games) {2014.04.03} - 1.739 / 9.006
50./38. [3DS] Tomodachi Collection new life (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} - 1.659 / 1.668.382

Top 50

3DS - 17
PS3 - 12
PSV - 10
WiU - 5
PS4 - 3
PSP - 2
X360 - 1

TOP3/PLATFORM

[3DS] Yokai Watch (LEVEL-5) {2013.07.11} - 36.472 / 686.752
[3DS] Mario Party Island tour (Nintendo) {2014.03.20} - 28.261 / 287.216
[3DS] Crayon Shin-Chan: Arashi o Yobu Kasukabe Eiga Stars! (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2014.04.10} - 14.090 / NEW

[PSV] 3rd Super Robot Wars Z: Jigoku-Hen (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2014.04.10} - 130.400 / NEW
[PSV] Mato Kurenai Yuugekitai: Tokyo Twilight Ghosthunters (Arc System Works) {2014.04.10} - 14.719 / NEW
[PSV] Hatsune Miku-Project DIVA-F 2nd (SEGA) {2014.03.27} - 5.379 / 118.244

[PS3] 3rd Super Robot Wars Z: Jigoku-Hen (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2014.04.10} - 155.176 / NEW
[PS3] Sengoku Musou 4 (Tecmo Koei Games) {2014.03.20} - 9.783 / 205.712
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V ground Zerozu (KONAMI) {2014.03.20} - 8.900 / 200.716

[PS4] Metal Gear Solid V ground Zerozu (KONAMI) {2014.03.20} - 3.111 / 117.984
[PS4] Battlefield 4 (Electronic Arts) {2014.02.22} - 2.206 / 68.611
[PS4] NAtURAL DOCtRINE (Kadokawa Games) {2014.04.03} - 1.739 / 9.006

[WIU] JUST DANCE (R) Wii U (Nintendo) {2014.04.03} - 7.289 / 25.986
[WIU] Wii Party U (Nintendo) {2013.10.31} - 4.078 / 673.952
[WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} - 3.783 / 1.090.186

[360] Titan Fall (Electronic Arts) {2014.04.10} - 9.530 / NEW
[360] Metal Gear Solid V ground Zerozu (KONAMI) {2014.03.20} - 145 / 4.294
[360] Monster Hunter Frontier G1 Premium Package (Capcom) {2013.04.17} - 137 / 8.364

ALL SOFTWARE

Code: 
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| Model | This Week | Week(%) |  FY 2014  | FY (%)  |
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| PS3   | 249.371   | 36.20%  | 376.316   | 31.30%  |
| Vita  | 193.385   | 28.10%  | 277.124   | 23.10%  |
| 3DS   | 174.065   | 25.30%  | 376.683   | 31.30%  |
| Wii U | 26.787    | 3.90%   | 71.980    | 6.00%   |
| PSP   | 18.636    | 2.70%   | 41.473    | 3.40%   |
| PS4   | 14.511    | 2.10%   | 41.706    | 3.50%   |
| X360  | 11.974    | 1.70%   | 16.949    | 1.40%   |
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| Total | 688.729   | 100.00% | 1.202.231 | 100.00% |
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HARDWARE

Code: 
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| Model | This Week | Week(%) | FY 2014 | FY (%)  |
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| 3DS   | 23.487    | 34.50%  | 53.885  | 36.20%  |
| Vita  | 17.868    | 26.30%  | 36.738  | 24.70%  |
| PS4   | 12.584    | 18.50%  | 24.193  | 16.30%  |
| PS3   | 6.842     | 10.10%  | 16.903  | 11.40%  |
| Wii U | 4.957     | 7.30%   | 11.939  | 8.00%   |
| PSP   | 2.008     | 3.00%   | 4.605   | 3.10%   |
| X360  | 282       | 0.40%   | 533     | 0.40%   |
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| Total | 68.028    | 100.00% | 148.796 | 100.00% |
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Dengeki Sales: Week 14, 2014 (Mar 31 - Apr 06)
 
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Foshy

Member
Odd how Dengeki always has the Vita so much lower than other trackers.

watershed said:
I fully expect Nintendo to make the same mistake again, especially since their QoL platform must be dominating their hardware division for the next year plus.
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Yeah, QoL is the only thing that makes me think that they might delay the 3DS successor. They really, really shouldn't though.
 
1

1st Course

Member
Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze sales (Dengeki)

02./00. [WIU] Donkey Kong tropical freeze (Nintendo) {2014.02.13} - 35.829 / 35.829
11./02. [WIU] Donkey Kong tropical freeze (Nintendo) {2014.02.13} - 14.939 / 50.768
16./11. [WIU] Donkey Kong tropical freeze (Nintendo) {2014.02.13} - 10.488 / 61.256
15./16. [WIU] Donkey Kong tropical freeze (Nintendo) {2014.02.13} - 6.867 / 68.123
17./15. [WIU] Donkey Kong tropical freeze (Nintendo) {2014.02.13} - 5.329 / 73.452
30./17. [WIU] Donkey Kong tropical freeze (Nintendo) {2014.02.13} - 4.688 / 78.140
41./30. [WIU] Donkey Kong tropical freeze (Nintendo) {2014.02.13} - 3.882 / 82.022
42./41. [WIU] Donkey Kong tropical freeze (Nintendo) {2014.02.13} - 2.517 / 84.539
47./42. [WIU] Donkey Kong tropical freeze (Nintendo) {2014.02.13} - 1.926 / 86.465
 
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mclem

Member
Faustek said:
What's stopping Nintendo from releasing a region free 3DSi(break the cycle)? I know I would buy it even though I already have access to the 3 regions.
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Existing licensing agreements may have been signed on the understanding that the hardware was region-locked.
 
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GhostTrick

Banned
Phoenician_Viking said:
That is not the argument at all. The Vita does not need MH to get more third party support. It´s already getting plenty. Which would make 3DS successor compete with third party coming to Vita.

Lol at anyone who think 4DS will release in 2016. 2015 at the latest.
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Of course Vita needs something like MH. For now, the only 3rd party support it's getting is niche, port of PS3 titles, support. Why do you think that best selling Vita titles are hunting games ?
 
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phanphare

Banned
Phoenician_Viking said:
That is not the argument at all. The Vita does not need MH to get more third party support. It´s already getting plenty. Which would make 3DS successor compete with third party coming to Vita.

Lol at anyone who think 4DS will release in 2016. 2015 at the latest.
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I would say the opposite honestly. Nintendo has a nice install base with the 3DS and I'm sure they want to sell more software before they release their next handheld.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Atram said:
early 2015 or bomb.....aaaaaaalright. This is not how this things work. Comparing their HH Business with the console Business sounds very wrong. They have strong 3rd Party boundrys in Japan for their HH and the most of the High Quality HH Games are coming to the 3DS not the Vita.
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I see moves from Nintendo for Japan lately that show me they start taking handheld market more seriously. MH4U only one year after MH4, Smash coming to 3DS first, Animal Crossing/Youkai Watch promotion. A price drop or a redesign must not be very far and the time of DQXI announcement the same. Sales of summer and later will show how longer Nintendo can rely on 3DS.

But of cource 4DS isn't coming at early 2015 no matter how bad Nintendo plans for 3DS will go.
 
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Mr Swine

Banned
Chris1964 said:
I see moves from Nintendo for Japan lately that show me they start taking Japanese handheld market more seriously. MH4U only one year after MH4, Smash coming to 3DS first, Animal Crossing/Youkai Watch promotion. A price drop or a redesign must not be very far and the time of DQXI announcement the same. Sales of summer and later will show how longer Nintendo can rely on 3DS.

But of cource 4DS isn't coming at earky 2015 no matter how bad Nintendo plans for 3DS will go.
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Doesn't this depend on how much worse the 3DS sells next year? It's hovering around 20-30k a week and if it drops 50% YoY it's going to be 10-15k. Software sales will be great but Can Nintendo really sustain a near dead 3DS HW sales if Vita keeps on selling better YoY?
 
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Busaiku

Member
It's not as though Nintendo can just pluck hardware from trees. It takes extensive planning to properly launch a new platform. Nintendo's done nothing to indicate they're ready for an early 2015 launch. If 3DS continues to flounder, it may very well damage their brand further, but the last thing they want to do is rush out hardware again.
 
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phanphare

Banned
Mr Swine said:
Doesn't this depend on how much worse the 3DS sells next year? It's hovering around 20-30k a week and if it drops 50% YoY it's going to be 10-15k. Software sales will be great but Can Nintendo really sustain a near dead 3DS HW sales if Vita keeps on selling better YoY?
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until 2016? absolutely.
 
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test_account

XP-39C²
GhostTrick said:
Of course Vita needs something like MH. For now, the only 3rd party support it's getting is niche, port of PS3 titles, support. Why do you think that best selling Vita titles are hunting games ?
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I wonder what will happen with the Vita support once the publisher start moving over to PS4. Many of the PS3/Vita games arent ports in the "traditional way" (as in releasing for another platform later on), but they are rather multiplatform games. Is it easy to do a PS4/Vita game? I know that some indie game(s) comes out on PS4/Vita, but i wonder if its an easy process that can be done for most games.
 
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