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Sales-Age Media Create Sales: Week 16, 2017 (Apr 17 - Apr 23)

ethomaz

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PS4 needs a big release in Japan until the Juggernaut DQXI.
 

noobie

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PS4 VS PS3

Code:
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|    |   PlayStation 3   |   PlayStation 4   |  Difference  | 
|    |    (2006/11/11)   |    (2014/02/22)   |              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   PS4 - PS3  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
| 164|  110.519|4.387.000|   24.512|4.637.968|       250.968|  
| 165|  114.367|4.501.367|   21.922|4.659.890|       158.523|  
| 166|   61.591|4.562.958|   19.334|4.679.224|       116.266| 
| 167|   35.156|4.598.114|         |         |              | 
| 168|   26.966|4.625.080|         |         |              | 
| 169|   34.431|4.659.511|         |         |              |
| 170|   25.450|4.684.961|         |         |              |
| 171|   24.811|4.709.772|         |         |              |
| 172|   32.130|4.741.902|         |         |              |
| 173|   27.763|4.769.665|         |         |              |
| 174|   28.824|4.798.489|         |         |              |
| 175|   26.481|4.824.970|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

Look like PS4 is gonna fall behind PS3 after all until or unless something big releases soon.
 

SporeCrawler

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I think it has more to do with Gaiden not being a very good game than Fates having issues.

fates had some story issues and they charged a lot but it was a very good FE gameplaywise.

fates isnt strictly a FE game imho. its main attraction is on collecting characters through the gatcha system rather than clearing maps.

i think the problem of echoes is that gaiden generally is not considered to be the best in the series. i mean mystery of the emblem is widely considered to be the best in the series and yet the remake did similar numbers to echoes. I do think a geneology of the holy war remake would have done much better
 

Soph

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I thought people expected a dip in Switch sales due to a drought until MK8, bet those people won't comment in this topic/ As always.

Bomberman, wow Hudson must be proud

i mean mystery of the emblem is widely considered to be the best in the series

Oh hell naw
 

Jim_Cacher

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I am going to Tokyo next week, hopefully I can witness the true glory of MK8D in stores or will it be all sold out?
 

kuroneko0509

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fates had some story issues and they charged a lot but it was a very good FE gameplaywise.

fates isnt strictly a FE game imho. its main attraction is on collecting characters through the gatcha system rather than clearing maps.

i think the problem of echoes is that gaiden generally is not considered to be the best in the series. i mean mystery of the emblem is widely considered to be the best in the series and yet the remake did similar numbers to echoes. I do think a geneology of the holy war remake would have done much better

I guess you meant to say heroes there
also eh mote being the best in the series....
 

darkstar0155

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I'm surprised at how many people are buying a Switch in Japan without buying Zelda.

I'm sure the digital ratio is affecting the attach rate, I would suspect more people bought it physical at launch due to being unsure of the online system, and the ratio of digital/physical is going to slowly grow. Now how much that is affecting the attach rate, who knows
 

thestopsign

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Switch is about 200k behind the 3DS, and needs to sell 220k next week if it wants to pass 3DS. While that is not going to happen imo, do you guys think it would be possible the week after, when there is hopefully a higher number of units available than the base 40k-50k we have seen these past few weeks?

It might happen at some point in May or early June, no way Nintendo gets close to 200k in stock next week though. I'd say best bet is 100k and then back to the 40-50k range assuming it's still selling out.
 

Mr. Pointy

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I know we won't get actual figures from MC or Famitsu until after Golden Week, but I'm hoping for some press releases from Nintendo about the Switch and MK8DX destroying everything.
 

BitStyle

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I know we won't get actual figures from MC or Famitsu until after Golden Week, but I'm hoping for some press releases from Nintendo about the Switch and MK8DX destroying everything.

I'd expect some for MK8D, Switch we may have to wait
 
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That's ways off though. Mostly talking about surpassing the 3DS before than (though obviously the 3DS will dramatically come back). We'll what happens when we reach that week. Will certainly be interesting

I think it's possible for the switch to stay ahead this year. The holidays are where the 3DSwrnt insane. With splatoon 2 in July I can see switch sales remaining high for the rest of the year. Should be a fun race to watch.

Look like PS4 is gonna fall behind PS3 after all until or unless something big releases soon.

That was pretty much always going to happen, the question was when. PS3 had a long tail that the PS4 simply won't have.
 

jonno394

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I know we won't get actual figures from MC or Famitsu until after Golden Week, but I'm hoping for some press releases from Nintendo about the Switch and MK8DX destroying everything.

I think we'll definitely get something for MK8D, especially if it sells over 1m in the first weekend WW.
 

cheesekao

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I have to ask, is there really any reason to hold back Switch stock? It's gonna sell out regardless anyway.
 

Power Shot

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I lurked in the last thread, but I'm pretty impressed with the Switch's hold on the Japanese market (particularly without too many of the big multiplayer titles). Now that we're advancing towards MK8D, though, it'll be interesting to see if the supply really has been constrained (to better meet demand on Friday) like I think it has.

Oh, and I would like to motion that we stop talking about a game that hasn't even been announced yet, and is as such not really worth talking about until we've seen what it is. Speculation is fun, but this Monster Hunter 5 stuff is personally starting to get a little too off topic for me.
 

Aostia

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Switch HW very stable, let's see how it will pan out with the release of MK8 Deluxe!
But the real winner here is Bomberman R!
Vita is the new Wii U...
FE performs similarly to the previous remakes, so it dind't benefit from the surge of the FE brand awarness the last couple of episodes/the mobile spin off brought in
 

Salex_

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Are people buying it in advance because they know the big 3DS franchises + Splatoon are coming eventually?

It's weird to see it hold in the 40k range with nothing but launch titles in the top 20 and Zelda is the only game in the 5 digits.
 

lyrick

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Are people buying it in advance because they know the big 3DS franchises + Splatoon are coming eventually?

It's weird to see it hold in the 40k range with nothing but launch titles in the top 20 and Zelda is the only game in the 5 digits.

It can only sell what's available.
 

borghe

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I have to ask, is there really any reason to hold back Switch stock? It's gonna sell out regardless anyway.

no, and anyone whoever mentions artificial restraint is talking urban legends through their ass. The ONLY holding back stock we've had in recent times is for specific street dates. Like I am guessing many stores in the US are keeping Switches off the floor until Friday.

Are people buying it in advance because they know the big 3DS franchises + Splatoon are coming eventually?

It's weird to see it hold in the 40k range with nothing but launch titles in the top 20 and Zelda is the only game in the 5 digits.

1) used copies of games?
2) yes Splatoon 2 and MK8DX
3) digital games?
4) Bomberman
 

Kouriozan

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We're reaching 2 months since it launched and they still have stock issues, this will negatively impact Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
 

Zedark

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no, and anyone whoever mentions artificial restraint is talking urban legends through their ass. The ONLY holding back stock we've had in recent times is for specific street dates. Like I am guessing many stores in the US are keeping Switches off the floor until Friday.

There are plenty of reports in the stock situation thread of retailers doing just that (though, I think Cheesekao was referring to that fact?).
 

JonnyDBrit

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Switch VS Other Launches


Code:
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|  |    3DS   |    PSV   |    WIU   |    PS4   |    NSW   |
|La|2011.02.26|2011.12.17|2012.12.08|2014.02.22|2017.03.03|
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
| 1|   374.764|   324.859|   308.142|   309.154|   329.152|
| 2|   209.623|    72.479|   126.916|    65.685|    61.998|
| 3|    96.463|    42.648|   122.843|    35.294|    49.913|
| 4|    61.394|    42.915|    69.386|    29.677|    78.441|
| 5|    50.710|    18.361|    67.083|    30.201|    45.509|
| 6|    42.979|    15.219|    20.715|    23.327|    41.193|
| 7|    32.910|    18.942|    16.654|    13.401|    45.673|
| 8|    28.252|    17.141|    13.746|    13.034|    48.694|
| 9|    23.038|    13.939|    12.959|    14.396|          |
|10|    28.413|    12.309|    12.185|    12.712|          |
|11|    29.149|    11.186|    10.744|    11.486|          |
|12|    18.324|    10.023|     9.633|     8.480|          |
|13|    17.240|    10.041|    10.021|     6.792|          |
|14|    24.283|    10.021|     9.454|     7.543|          |
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+


Jesus, that Switch trajectory. The thing's legs would need to absolutely collapse for it not to stay ahead of the Wii U for the rest of the year, at this rate.

I mean, still well behind the 3DS cumulatively, but if the sales hold up, this could get interesting.
 

Resistance100

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Are people buying it in advance because they know the big 3DS franchises + Splatoon are coming eventually?

It's weird to see it hold in the 40k range with nothing but launch titles in the top 20 and Zelda is the only game in the 5 digits.

People going digital? Plus that and people know its going to be hard to get hold of this year now, best to snap one up while you can
 

KillerMan91

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That was pretty much always going to happen, the question was when. PS3 had a long tail that the PS4 simply won't have.

While eventually I think PS4 dies sooner than PS3 I think that PS3 and PS4 will still switch places couple of times in that chart.

Jesus, that Switch trajectory. The thing's legs would need to absolutely collapse for it not to stay ahead of the Wii U for the rest of the year, at this rate.

I mean, still well behind the 3DS cumulatively, but if the sales hold up, this could get interesting.

Well things would be interesting until that price drop 3DS spike. I don't see how Switch could match it.
 

Soph

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You mean konami :) since hudson died in 2012.
Unless you mean the ghost of hudson soft that can still be heard on a quiet night, as some claim.

How many of the people in the credits are old Hudson Soft? For me those will always be Hudson soft people, not about to give Konami credit for something they only financed.

If it was all Konami.. then I don't get why they even bothered buying the damn studio.


The ghost of Hudson Soft obviously!
 

E-phonk

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Jan 1, 2006
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We're reaching 2 months since it launched and they still have stock issues, this will negatively impact Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.

You can't just add manufacturing lines and expect units to be ready a few weeks later. This will take a while, certainly more then two months.

I think they'll have bigger weekly shipments by around the time splatoon is here.
 

cheesekao

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There are plenty of reports in the stock situation thread of retailers doing just that (though, I think Cheesekao was referring to that fact?).
If retailers are indeed holding back stock for whatever reason, is there any justifiable reason for them to do so? What do they stand to gain besides giving their employees a harder time?
 

theprodigy

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I hope I don''t see posts these were the expected sales for this FE.

you gotta dig up the receipts from the Media Create threads when this game was first announced

edit: luckily for other people Switch preorders cut this discussion short, otherwise more people would've likely ended up in this wall:

I can't see Double Cross shipping more than 2 million LTD, not by March.

As for FE, DS remakes are the base for sales.

Nice for Yoshi lol. Guess it is going to be another title doing well after being freed from the Wii U shackles lol.

And u and Chris lol. Are u guys twin there.^^ I can see Capcom shipping 2 mil actually lol. I mean, they need something to sell more here lol as their other software is not going to do any big there.^^

FE doing around FE:Shadow Dragon seems impossible for me lol. I mean, at least this one had much much better art vs SD there so that should already help a lot.

Lol. Wrong about there being a new 3DS FE. Now wrong about FE sales next!

Nah, I don't agree with him about FE. I think the game has potencial for >300k. Better than the DS versions for sure.

Definitely. Fans don't care if about it being a remake. Most of them weren't born when this was released.

I disagree with you here Chris actually. Even if this is a remake, i don't think it is comparable with the remake number here.

The reason i feel for this is tx to several factors actually.

1. FE Heroes push will help sell this title for sure as we had seen with Nintendo software sales number
2. FE this time just come out of a huge number which is Fates unlike FE:SD which come from FE on Wii which does not seems to resonate that much with JP gaming market.
3. FE: Gaiden is known by older fans as one of the worst FE actually. And if Echoes is promoted as the remake which repaired many of the older mistakes and with much better graphics, i can see it do better.

The only problem i feel is 3DS is on its Twilight(Lol how many twilight 3DS must have lol.) So, i can't see it going to have longer legs.

350k+ for me should be quite easy to reach here.

I think that the 3DS Fire Emblem revival will have an effect on echoes vs FE11-12 on DS. I dont see 500k, but 250k seems too low as well. Maybe 300-350k?
 

E-phonk

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How many of the people in the credits are old Hudson Soft? For me those will always be Hudson soft people, not about to give Konami credit for something they only financed.

If it was all Konami.. then I don't get why they even bothered buying the damn studio.

I actually don't know if hexadrive (who developed the game) has a lot of Hudson staff, but it's also something I don't follow closely. A big part of hudson now works at NDCube.
 

Pandora012

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Wait there's a DT 2-2? I wonder if they will localize it. Atlus usually doesn't care releasing games at the endlife of systems.
 

Chrom

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dude its the original remade + a new game on top. people loved that shit. also geneology and thracia took the series to completely different places so mystery is actually representing the roots of the series.

mystery's more popular but i'd still say it's actually the jugdral games which are generally more highly regarded in the fandom
 

Mr. Pointy

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Looking at the launch graph, I honestly think the 3DS and Switch will cross streams before week 20. Though they might uncross because that 3DS price drop was too strong.
 

casiopao

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Switch HW very stable, let's see how it will pan out with the release of MK8 Deluxe!
But the real winner here is Bomberman R!
Vita is the new Wii U...
FE performs similarly to the previous remakes, so it dind't benefit from the surge of the FE brand awarness the last couple of episodes/the mobile spin off brought in

But Vita means life.O_O