Media Create Sales: Week 17, 2013 (Apr 22 - Apr 28)

The game currently has an anime adaption that just started airing airing(though the blu-ray preorders were pretty poor the last time I cheked so I'm surprised it did as well as it did) and the Vita is pretty much for Otaku at this point so that could have something to do with it.
Meh, it won't happen I think, but I wouldn't mind if they release that kind of stuff in the west. Maybe digitally since retail is even more impossible, I guess.

I'll buy stuff like that for my Vita no problem. Anything to add Vita's not-so-healthy roster of available games.
 
You mean the equivalent of this:

Can gamers expect a Wii U version this year? If not, when? Also, is there a possibility that a Vita version may appear?
“At the time we don’t plan to make PES for the Wii U or the PS Vita. This does not mean we never will. We are still exploring these exciting platforms to make a successful game that takes advantage of these platforms.”

I.e. the typical fobbing off of a question. Because that's the extent of what my google-fu can find and doesn't really imply PES14 for either platform.
No, it was a Japanese exec and might've been earlier in the year I think. It was in the PES2013 press run up, asking about ports and the answer was basically "next year".
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
I wonder more what the DS/PSP split was like before MH. Not that the PSP was doing anywhere near as poorly as the Vita is doing currently, but it was MH that really catapulted it into a true mainstream device.
2004+2005 software NDS/(NDS+PSP)=70%

ps: Previously it was supposed to mean 3DS/(3DS+PSV)

That's pretty surprising but given how a lot of the 3DS games this year has preformed and how the Vita hasn't really gotten too many big name games this year it makes sense.
Things will get worse, not better for Vita this year at software side.
 
Well it seems like it has found its niche which is quite cool I guess

And I'm probably the only happy person because of BioShock Infinite showing up :lol Hell yeah
Yes, as I already stated, a niche of otaku games and portings basically. Which is the next exclusive game that can sold over 100k on Vita? Just asking.
 
Dengeki Sales: Week 17, 2013 (Apr 22 - Apr 28)

Code:
TW(LW) SYS TITLE                                                 SALES       LTD   CHG  SELLTHROUGH        RELEASE  PUBLISHER

 1( 1) 3DS Tomodachi Collection: Shin Seikatsu                 153,569   559,789 (-62%)                  2013-04-18 Nintendo
 2(  ) PS3 Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen                         116,589       NEW       [~70% => 167,000] 2013-04-25 Capcom
 3( 4) 3DS Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon                           41,800   600,757  (-6%)                  2013-03-20 Nintendo
 4(  ) PSV PhotoKano Kiss                                       31,985       NEW                         2013-04-25 Kadokawa Games
 5(  ) PS3 Steins;Gate: Senkei Kousoku no Phenogram             31,043       NEW                         2013-04-25 5pb.
 6( 5) 3DS Animal Crossing: New Leaf                            30,976 3,073,716  (-7%)                  2012-11-08 Nintendo
 7(  ) PS3 Tomb Raider                                          30,738       NEW                         2013-04-25 Square Enix
 8(  ) PSP Horizon on the Middle of Nowhere                     26,874       NEW                         2013-04-25 Kadokawa Games
 9( 2) PS3 Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 3             20,278    99,115 (-74%)                  2013-04-18 Bandai Namco
10( 3) PSP 7th Dragon 2020-II                                   16,103    92,406 (-79%)                  2013-04-18 SEGA
11(  ) PS3 BioShock Infinite                                    15,267       NEW                         2013-04-25 Take-Two
12(  ) PS3 Mugen Souls Z                                        12,888       NEW                         2013-04-25 Compile Heart
13(  ) 3DS Detective Conan: Marionette Symphony                 10,400       NEW                         2013-04-25 Bandai Namco
14(  ) PSV Meikyuu Cross Blood: Infinity                         8,569       NEW                         2013-04-25 CyberFront
15(  ) 360 Steins;Gate: Senkei Kousoku no Phenogram              8,438       NEW                         2013-04-25 5pb.
16(  ) 360 Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen                           8,387       NEW                         2013-04-25 Capcom
17(30) 3DS Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission                  8,084   165,758(+201%)                  2013-02-28 Bandai Namco
18(  ) PS3 The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky 2nd Ch...     6,681       NEW                         2013-04-25 Nihon Falcom
19(16) WII Taiko Drum Master Wii: Chougoukaban                   5,871   450,203 (+33%)                  2012-11-29 Bandai Namco
20( 8) PS3 One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2                          5,761   386,249 (-32%)                  2013-03-20 Bandai Namco
21(  ) 360 BioShock Infinite                                     5,738       NEW                         2013-04-25 Take-Two
22(12) 3DS New Super Mario Bros. 2                               5,494 1,929,203  (-5%)                  2012-07-28 Nintendo
23( 9) 3DS Run For Money Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hu...     5,217   496,242 (-23%)                  2012-07-05 Bandai Namco
24(10) PSP Pro Baseball Spirits 2013                             4,870   136,773 (-21%)                  2013-03-20 Konami
25( 7) 3DS Cardfight!! Vanguard: Ride to Victory!!               4,789    58,596 (-50%)                  2013-04-11 FuRyu
26(14) 3DS Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate [Best Price!]               4,494   265,496  (-5%)                  2012-11-15 Capcom
27(13) PS3 Pro Baseball Spirits 2013                             4,344   155,473 (-21%)                  2013-03-20 Konami
28( 6) PSP Amnesia Crowd                                         4,238    32,224 (-85%)                  2013-04-18 Idea Factory
29(  ) 360 Tomb Raider                                           3,823       NEW                         2013-04-25 Square Enix
30(19) 3DS Dragon Quest VII: Eden no Senshitachi                 3,794 1,223,574  (-4%)                  2013-02-07 Square Enix
31(21) 3DS Mario Kart 7                                          3,659 2,006,153  (-5%)                  2011-12-01 Nintendo
32(17) PS3 Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX                           3,461   199,483 (-18%)                  2013-03-14 Square Enix
33(15) PSP Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment                     3,417   197,575 (-27%)                  2013-03-14 Bandai Namco
34(20) 3DS Professor Layton and the Azran Legacies               3,411   216,367 (-12%)                  2013-02-28 Level 5
35(  ) 360 Caladrius                                             3,310       NEW                         2013-04-25 Moss
36(22) PSV Soul Sacrifice                                        3,042   188,398 (-19%)                  2013-03-07 SCE
37(  ) PS3 Daito Giken Koushiki PachiSlot Simulator Hihou...     3,007       NEW                         2013-04-25 Paon
38(18) PSV Muramasa Rebirth                                      3,006    69,488 (-25%)                  2013-03-28 Marvelous AQL
39(23) PSV One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2                          2,989   101,094 (-18%)                  2013-03-20 Bandai Namco
40(27) 3DS Taiko Drum Master: Chibi Dragon to Fushigina Orb      2,956   460,604  (-2%)                  2012-07-12 Bandai Namco
41(24) WIU Game & Wario                                          2,678    42,437 (-22%)                  2013-03-28 Nintendo
42(26) WIU Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku O...     2,624    51,093 (-13%)                  2013-03-30 Square Enix
43(28) WIU New Super Mario Bros. U                               2,529   513,511 (-11%)                  2012-12-08 Nintendo
44(33) PS3 Dynasty Warriors 8                                    2,178   304,909  (-2%)                  2013-02-28 Koei Tecmo
45(31) PSP Uta no Prince-sama: All Star                          2,146    79,707 (-10%)                  2013-03-07 Broccoli
46(34) PS3 Far Cry 3                                             2,106    72,723  (-4%)                  2013-03-07 Ubisoft
47(37) 3DS Fantasy Life                                          2,033   283,595  (+7%)                  2012-12-27 Level 5
48(25) PSP Fate/Extra CCC                                        1,981    96,077 (-37%)                  2013-03-28 Marvelous AQL
49(36) 3DS Super Mario 3D Land                                   1,918 1,835,558  (-3%)                  2011-11-03 Nintendo
50(42) 3DS Pretty Rhythm: My Deco Rainbow Wedding                1,900    50,998  (+7%)                  2013-03-20 Takara Tomy
  (47) WII PreCure All-Stars: Zenin Shuugou Let's Dance!         1,689    25,886  (+6%)                  2013-03-28 Bandai Namco
  (  ) WII Super Smash Bros. Brawl                               1,367 2,390,925  (+9%)                  2008-01-31 Nintendo
  (  ) NDS Pokémon Black Version 2                               1,089 1,595,335  (+5%)                  2012-06-23 Pokemon Co.
  (  ) NDS Pokémon White Version 2                               1,022 1,396,935 (+26%)                  2012-06-23 Pokemon Co.
  (  ) NDS Dragon Quest VI: Realms of Revelation [Ultimat...       560   141,104  (-8%)                  2011-02-03 Square Enix

*Sellthrough rounded to the nearest 5% => estimated copies shipped.

OTHER SOFTWARE

2009-06-18 [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Nintendo) - 106,000 / 3,650,000
2012-05-24 [PS3] Dragon's Dogma [all prices] (Capcom) - 292,000 / 466,000
2012-10-11 [3DS] Bravely Default: Flying Fairy (Square Enix) - 140,000 / 294,000


TOTAL SOFTWARE
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| SYSTEM | THIS WEEK | LAST WEEK | CHANGE |
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| 3DS    |   324,578 |   573,128 |   -43% |
| PS3    |   299,112 |   149,927 |  +100% |
| PSP    |   101,833 |   166,745 |   -39% |
| PSV    |    75,078 |    31,657 |  +137% |
| 360    |    32,390 |    10,069 |  +222% |
| WII    |    22,089 |    20,450 |    +8% |
| WIU    |    12,290 |    13,555 |    -9% |
| NDS    |     9,468 |     9,192 |    +3%
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| ALL    |   876,838 |   974,723 |   -10% |
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HARDWARE
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| SYSTEM | THIS WEEK | LAST WEEK | CHANGE |
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| 3DSLL  |    37,812 |    51,471 |   -27% |
| PSV    |    17,524 |    15,141 |   +16% |
| 3DS    |    17,479 |    18,379 |    -5% |
| PS3    |    14,203 |    14,123 |    +1% |
| WIU    |     8,409 |     8,338 |    +1% |
| PSP    |     7,991 |     8,298 |    -4% |
| WII    |     1,246 |     1,302 |    -4% |
| 360    |       447 |       384 |   +16% |
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| ALL    |   105,111 |   117,436 |   -10% |
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April Market (04/01 to 04/28):

- Hardware units: 431k (-12.1%)
- Software units: 2,913k (-2.9%)

- Hardware value: 8.3 billion yen (-4.2%)
- Software value: 15.8 billion yen (-5.2%)

Lowest values for fiscal years since 2000:

- 2003: 450.1 billion yen
- 2004: 456.6 billion yen
- 2012: 459.7 billion yen


Dengeki Sales: Week 16, 2013 (Apr 15 - Apr 21)

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Yes, as I already stated, a niche of otaku games and portings basically.
Vita got Onepiece Musou 2 and will get the next Jump crossover game. Otaku can be defined narrowly or broadly. In the narrow sense they're older yet very dedicated anime fans who also play pervy anime games. You can expand from there to a more mainstream manga/anime audience and the Jump games I mentioned above are an attempt to just do that. I'm pretty sure that in the long run there will be more (and more interesting) Tales games also, as part of that expansion.

Late ports and spin offs which do better on Vita than on their original platform will help get original content also. Some games like Muramasa or Senran Kagura just sell better on Vita.

Also, if a port is released alongside the main version, it really is a multiplatform game and giving customers a choice of home and handheld version is a chance to bring existing PS gamers to Vita, not just from PSP but also PS3. PS3 software market is in good shape, sharing it with Vita can benefit it as a whole since Vita is a new platform and not saturated yet. There's a good chance that we'll see more and more cross platform games with PS3 after the relative success of Onepiece Musou 2. The Jump crossover game is the next test for that model.

Even if it won't be enough to take on 3DS, Vita might be able to use its niche to keep expanding its market.
 
2004+2005 software NDS/(NDS+PSP)=70%

ps: Previously it was supposed to mean 3DS/(3DS+PSV)
Ah, thanks, and it's about what I would have expected. DS significantly higher, but PSP had a bigger slice of the software pie than Vita vs 3DS.

Assuming they have nothing to announce for E3 or TGS, then it's flat out dead.
There will be new software announced, that much is guaranteed, whether it will make any significant impact though, remains to be seen. It needs either major software or something that becomes major right under our very nose a la Monster Hunter to completely turn its fortunes.
 
Wii U should go up during golden week, it is a Nintendo system afterall, they benefit more around the holidays, its also the reason why its even selling this much each week in the first place.
 
Vita got Onepiece Musou 2 and will get the next Jump crossover game. Otaku can be defined narrowly or broadly. In the narrow sense they're older yet very dedicated anime fans who also play pervy anime games. You can expand from there to a more mainstream manga/anime audience and the Jump games I mentioned above are an attempt to just do that. I'm pretty sure that in the long run there will be more (and more interesting) Tales games also, as part of that expansion.

Late ports and spin offs which do better on Vita than on their original platform will help get original content also. Some games like Muramasa or Senran Kagura just sell better on Vita.

Also, if a port is released alongside the main version, it really is a multiplatform game and giving customers a choice of home and handheld version is a chance to bring existing PS gamers to Vita, not just from PSP but also PS3. PS3 software market is in good shape, sharing it with Vita can benefit it as a whole since Vita is a new platform and not saturated yet. There's a good chance that we'll see more and more cross platform games with PS3 after the relative success of Onepiece Musou 2. The Jump crossover game is the next test for that model.

Even if it won't be enough to take on 3DS, Vita might be able to use its niche to keep expanding its market.
It's not automatic that third parties will take the risk to do something new and exclusive on Vita based on the sales of Muramasa and Senran Kagura. Otherwise, we would have had a new brand Resident Evil on Wii, and not on-rail shooters and portings. When they have to support PS360, next-gen, mobile/social gaming and 3DS, you can clearly see how Vita can well be left outside the business decisions.

Some multiplatform games sold well (One Piece), but other sold abysmally low (LBX W, AKB). Tales sold really bad, also. Of course Vita owners will always buy something, but if the installed base is growing so little, big projects will hardly arrive.

Assuming they have nothing to announce for E3 or TGS, then it's flat out dead.
Assuming also that 3DS won't have nothing announced for E3 or TGS, which is far more unlikely than having nothing announced for Vita.
 
Assuming they have nothing to announce for E3 or TGS, then it's flat out dead.
TGS was the last point at which Sony deserved any kind of "wait for _____" benefit of the doubt. There's just no precedent in this industry for the kind of mid-generation shift in third-party support that some are hoping for.
 
TGS was the last point at which Sony deserved any kind of "wait for _____" benefit of the doubt. There's just no precedent in this industry for the kind of mid-generation shift in third-party support that some are hoping for.
Do you feel we're at the midpoint of the generation?

Edit: I guess you do think so, for the Vita. I disagree. Not that I think there'll be a major shift particularly. I just think it's still a little too early to write off the possibility of any 'decent' announcements at all.
 
Do you feel we're at the midpoint of the generation?
You have to consider that if companies, as you said before, were incentivized to start developing on Vita given the sales of the last period (both hardware and software sales), the first games will be ready in late-2014 at the earliest, that is when Vita already have 3 years (unless they're porting / multi, of course).
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Edit: I guess you do think so, for the Vita. I disagree. Not that I think there'll be a major shift particularly. I just think it's still a little too early to write off the possibility of any 'decent' announcements at all.
What defines a 'decent' announcement for Vita (or Wii U)? Unless we start celebrations for any potential 100-200k seller.

So Dengeki also shows DB Heroes, so that's 2 against one for MC, why doesn't MC show DB Heroes? How bizarre.
It's #27 at Media Create, big deal.
 
Well, there's also the possibility they restart work on projects canceled due to the vita cratering previously... but that's far too much conjecture without any actual announcements to show for it.
 
You have to consider that if companies, as you said before, were incentivized to start developing on Vita given the sales of the last period (both hardware and software sales), the first games will be ready in late-2014 at the earliest, that is when Vita already have 3 years (unless they're porting / multi, of course).
Sure, but the announcements would probably be at E3 / TGS this year.

What defines a 'decent' announcement for Vita (or Wii U)? Unless we start celebrations for any potential 100-200k seller.
At the moment? Pretty much anything from a 'major' Japanese third party.
 
Sure, but the announcements would probably be at E3 / TGS this year.
Excluding E3, were Japanese exclusive announcements are pretty unlikely, TGS is in September and that means that games announced there hardly will be in the market before early 2014. That means another year in the market without big releases.

At the moment? Pretty much anything from a 'major' Japanese third party.
For example? Which announcements do you consider likely to happen?
 
Excluding E3, were Japanese exclusive announcements are pretty unlikely, TGS is in September and that means that games announced there hardly will be in the market before early 2014. That means another year in the market without big releases.
Sure. I still don't feel like we're currently in the midpoint of this handheld generation.

For example? Which announcements do you consider likely to happen?
No idea, I didn't have anything particular in mind.
 
Aw man, just noticed that Soul Sacrifice has fallen off the charts. It was on it's way out anyway. Good bump this week for Vita.
 
PSP was having a quite good support in its first years in the market. In terms of announcements and actual releases, ti got already Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII, Ace Combat, Metal Gear Acid, Taiko no Tatsujin, Monster Hunter, Samurai Warriors, Harvest Moon, Itadaki Street, just to mention exclusive games from series that usually sells above 100k units.
 
Something I noticed from the Dengeki Top 50:

Code:
(  ) NDS Pokémon Black Version 2                               1,089 1,595,335  (+5%)
(  ) NDS Pokémon White Version 2                               1,022 1,396,935 (+26%)
TOTAL: 2,992,270
Pokémon Black and White 2 to break 3 million in a few weeks it seems.
 
We are already in May, the last known Japanese third-party release for Wii U will be launched in just 21 days. And no company has announced new titles yet.
 
Tomodachi Collection New Life is now at 15 in the 3DS eShop all time charts. It's only the third retail game after ACNL and NSMB2 to make the all time top 20 and on track to beat NSMB2 soon.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
We are already in May, the last known Japanese third-party release for Wii U will be launched in just 21 days. And no company has announced new titles yet.
Right now there is one Japanese-developed game dated for Wii U- Pikmin 3 in July

Baffling doesn't even begin to describe Nintendo.
 
Sure. I still don't feel like we're currently in the midpoint of this handheld generation.
You're taking that word more literally than I intended, but any hypothetical surge in third-party support as a result of March/April sales wouldn't bear fruit until 2.5-3 years after Vita launched in Japan. I consider that far enough into the generation to be considered "midway through."
 
Missed this when I posted the top 50 from Dengeki: http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/633/633597/index-3.html (they need to decide in which page they're gonna be putting stuff!)

April Market (04/01 to 04/28):

- Hardware units: 431k (-12.1%)
- Software units: 2,913k (-2.9%)

- Hardware value: 8.3 billion yen (-4.2%)
- Software value: 15.8 billion yen (-5.2%)

Lowest values for fiscal years since 2000:

- 2003: 450.1 billion yen
- 2004: 456.6 billion yen
- 2012: 459.7 billion yen
 
Media Create:

21./08. [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.20} (¥8.190)
22./00. [360] Tomb Raider <ADV> (Square Enix) {2013.04.25} (¥7.980)
23./13. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800)
24./17. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
25./07. [3DS] Card Fight!! Vanguard: Ride to Victory!! <TBL> (FuRyu) {2013.04.11} (¥5.229)
26./00. [360] Caladrius # <STG> (Moss) {2013.04.25} (¥7.140)
27./41. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥5.800)
28./09. [3DS] Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.040)
29./14. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥3.980)
30./12. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥7.980)
31./06. [PSP] Amnesia Crowd # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2013.04.18} (¥6.090)
32./15. [PSP] Sword Art Online: Infinity Moment # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.14} (¥6.280)
33./00. [PS3] Daito Giken Official Pachislot Simulator: Hihouden - Taiyou o Motomeru Monotachi <TBL> (Paon) {2013.04.25} (¥6.090)
34./23. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040)
35./18. [PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 ReMIX <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.14} (¥6.980)
36./19. [PSV] Soul Sacrifice # <ACT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2013.03.07} (¥5.980)
37./16. [PSV] Muramasa Rebirth <RPG> (Marvelous AQL) {2013.03.28} (¥4.980)
38./21. [WIU] Dragon Quest X: Rise of the Five Tribes Online # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.03.30} (¥6.980)
39./22. [WIU] Game & Wario <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.03.28} (¥4.935)
40./26. [3DS] Professor Layton and the Legacy of Civilization A <ADV> (Level 5) {2013.02.28} (¥5.500)
41./23. [3DS] Dragon Quest VII: Fighters of Eden <RPG> (Square Enix) {2013.02.07} (¥6.090)
42./24. [PSV] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.20} (¥7.140)
43./30. [NDS] Pokèmon Black 2 / White 2 <RPG> (Pokèmon Co.) {2012.06.23} (¥4.800)
44./00. [PSV] Kajiri Kamui Kagura: Akebono no Hikari # <ADV> (Views) {2013.04.25} (¥6.300)
45./34. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
46./33. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} (¥5.985)
47./32. [PS3] Far Cry 3 <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2013.03.07} (¥7.770)
48./35. [PS3] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva f <ACT> (Sega) {2013.03.07} (¥7.329)
49./25. [PSP] Fate/Extra CCC # <RPG> (Marvelous AQL) {2013.03.28} (¥6.279)
50./39. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 8 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2013.02.28} (¥7.560)

Top 50

3DS - 14
PS3 – 14
PSP - 6
PSV - 6
360 - 5
WIU - 3
WII – 1
NDS - 1


SOFTWARE
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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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|  ALL  |  894.000 |    987.000 |  1.039.000 | 16.051.000 | 15.713.000 |
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Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen PS3 + 360: 72% Sellthrough