Fixed. All hail our new items overlord.
P.S. When MK8's week results will come, and Wii U will heavily outsell PS4 (if it happens), I'm expecting so many Donkey Kong pics to be used. Like...
The lighting and depth of field in MK really is beautiful.
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Media Create Sales: Week 17, 2014 (Apr 21 - Apr 27)
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The lighting and depth of field in MK really is beautiful.
shinra-bansho
Member
I just really don't see why they would spend money funding titles specifically for Japan. It just isn't worth it.
Even Beast's Souls or whatever, that Japan Studios is co-developing with From and presumably funding has a good global market to sell to (if it follows the likes of Dark Souls in terms of numbers it should do a good 350K or so NPD).
Final Fantasy, Kingdom Hearts, Metal Gear, Resident Evil, these will come when they come, and there's not much that's worthwhile or plausible for Sony to do to move them along. Throwing money at S-E or Capcom is basically throwing it into a fire.
A Bundle?Apparently you missed what cultural phenomenon Knack is
ArchedThunder
Banned
Good points all around. While it would be possible for the PS4 to inch by to the PS3's LTD it isn't super likely. We might see a Vita situation where the hardware doesn't sell all that well but it still manages to push software well enough.
Honestly the only company that I think could revitalize the console market in Japan is oddly enough Nintendo, but only if they take the approach they took with the DS and Wii. Cheap and easily accessible hardware with software that appeals to a wide audience. Sony is focused on the "core" right now, and for good reason. The core market in the west is massive now and their focus on that is doing very well for them. The PS4 is just too expensive and not as accessible to many Japanese gamers as mobile or handhelds are.
Yeah, I'm starting to worry it's going to get delayed.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I think an October or November worldwide release would be perfect for the game, since Smash U is "Winter" it will probably end up being a December game. Nintendo is probably going to try to do that "One game a month" thing they did last year again.
The only money/assistance they could throw is at making some titles cross gen, to fill the gaps in the release schedule (plug a gaping hole?).
I would imagine smaller developers such as Gust, Nisa and Compile Heart and co will be one of the first to develop exclusively on PS4. They don't particulary care about install base because their games are pretty niche. Their target audience are probably most likely to be an early adopters of PS4 anyway. Their games are not exactly technological marvels and will benefit simply from increases resolution and fps and some esy extra bells and whistles, especially true in Gust's case. Lack of games on PS4 will probably be to their advantage.
It's not going to do miracles but if you take as base most predictions here that it won't sell 1 million unbundled that's a target it will beat.
Considering it will continue to sell for the lifetime of the Wii U (so 2-3 years), I agree that 1 million LTD is reasonable. It will probably be the Smash Bros Melee of the system.
Apparently you missed what cultural phenomenon Knack is
Everyone missed it, not only in JP but also worldwide.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Yeah I wholeheartedly agree with you here. The thing I can think of that could do that is Sony's VR but that's still up in the air really.
Agree.
Sammy Samusu
Member
http://www.comgnet.com/ranking/
Golden Week Comgnet:
Youkai Watch: 58pt (+33)
Monster Hunter 4: 47 (+9)
Mario Party: 34pt (+7)
Famicom Remix: 17pt (+2)
Style Savvy: 13pt (+4)
Harvest Moon: 12pt (+3)
Launch week comparison:
Mario Party - 293pt (135.419)
Mario Tennis - 226pt (124.377)
Mario Golf - 87pt (?)
Golden Week Comgnet:
Youkai Watch: 58pt (+33)
Monster Hunter 4: 47 (+9)
Mario Party: 34pt (+7)
Famicom Remix: 17pt (+2)
Style Savvy: 13pt (+4)
Harvest Moon: 12pt (+3)
Launch week comparison:
Mario Party - 293pt (135.419)
Mario Tennis - 226pt (124.377)
Mario Golf - 87pt (?)
Doesn't look good for mario golf, was the last one any good sales wise.
Sammy Samusu
Member
And from what I've seen, Golf looks so much better than Tennis did too. Oh well.
To me the core issue here is what Nintendo did then relative to where the market is now.
When the DS and Wii came out, Nintendo basically looked at games and correctly determined "Video games are too inaccessible for a large audience of people. If we simplify things such as input control, make some of the games more simplistic, and lower the price, we can attract a large audience." And they ended up doing just that.
However, in 2014, everyone owns a smartphone, so the hardware cost is irrelevant. You can't make an easier interface than no button touch. You can't make games simpler than auto runners, match 3 titles, and tap to win stamina games. And finally, you can't sell games for cheaper than free.
Mobile essentially took what Nintendo offered and brought it to its logical conclusion.
At this point, you're basic option is to offer something slightly more complicated. This is why things like Animal Crossing or Mario or Pokemon do well on 3DS, because they're accessible, but have a but more depth than what you tend to find on phones. Games like Brain Age on the other hand tank as there is zero reason to not just grab a phone game like that if you want one.
The issue Nintendo faces here is that this is a more limited audience in number of people, hence why the 3DS has sold quite a bit less than the DS.
Where console gaming gets into even more trouble (and the Vita as well) is that basically the main appeal of those systems is for audiences that want something even more computationally or control-interface complex than the 3DS can handle. The issue here is that in Japan the genres and types of games that fit that bill aren't popular, so there's almost no demand. Mobile and 3DS don't handle FPS and open world games well? Who cares?
Now if someone could invent a new genre or type of game that was ragingly popular in Japan, and only functioned in consoles, they might have something, but without that I see very little to drive recovery.
MisterGrey3000
Member
This sums up my feelings on the matter. We'll just have to wait, and see what effect it'll have on the market. Either way it'll be interesting.
Tsutaya rankings are up; SAO managed to beat out Yo-kai Watch for Golden Week. Hopefully Child of Light did better on PSN.
http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html?rank=top_sub
http://www.tsutaya.co.jp/rank/game.html?rank=top_sub
i think the next step is vr or some sort of headset. in japan that means less space required for gaming (and theoretically no need to have it next to a tv). it's the sort of thing that seems like it belongs in the not-too-distant future like the wii remote originally was, and can speak to imagination more, or at least pique some curiosity despite lacking skill associated with video games. i remember watching a mom try to play excite truck and isntead of turning the controller like you would a steering wheel (like when you drive a car in real life), it was all about overexaggerated movements. i assume she had very rarely, if ever, played a video game before, but it was interesting and new and worth trying out. i think that's something vr can do for the market, even if it's mostly visual.
Looks like Nintendo consoles had a pretty good Golden Week software-wise... now to see Hardware sales.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I wonder if the SAO game is actually any good.
Even if they moneyhat now, games still take years to make. I'm sure Sony knew the JP lineup was slim, but they're focused on the Western market now.
It's probably foolish to expect some sort of big resurgence for consoles. The market's changed a lot since 2006, and even with the PS3 being $600 and PS4 being $400, the price difference alone isn't going to close the gap. I'm not counting on the PS4 to beat the PS3, but I hope we see a similar type of support for it. At least Tales, Yakuza, Souls, FF, KH, Gust games, etc. will be on it. Some people complain about the lack of output from JP devs on consoles on PS3, but I think the output is/was still pretty good despite a larger mobile focus, so more of the same wouldn't be bad IMO.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Nationwide, I think Youkai will rank higher, but who knows, it's being given away with every 3DS XL sold.
Youkai Watch is now #2 on the eShop charts so I guess the free downloads are counting there (AC:NL has also re-charted) which is sure to affect its retail sales (I still expect an amazing Golden Week however).
Well it's being localized so I'm sure we will find out
Sammy Samusu
Member
Youkai Watch PS3?
No, usual time.
Today is the last holiday day in Japan. So usually Golden Week is held on week 18, and the following week 19 is the week of drops. But since this year, monday 5th and tuesday 6th are public holidays, i guess the drop won't be as big as other years. And a harder drop will happen on week 20.
Ah ok, thanks. But I wonder, when did they compile the data then, since Monday and Tuesday are holidays?
And yeah, GW is a spread on two weeks this year, so post-GW week drop won't be too hard. Curious to see how 3DS sales will be holding, with the new promotion.
By the way, I believe there's no major game coming out in May for the 3DS... nothing really important until June 5 with Persona Q. Guess Youkai Watch won't have much of a competition
Most of the process is automatic, and many people still work on holidays anyway.
4Gamer has a warning they will only updated May 8th. This means a 2 to 26 hour delay.
Famitsu didn't say anything.
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Random, but if you're the person who asked and happens to be reading this, here's the link for PS1 sales: https://sites.google.com/site/japanltdrank/show?platform=PS1
Just change the name after "platform=" to (almost) any of the older systems too. You can find their three letter code in the home page.
Ah, thanks a lot for the info. I was sure Golden Week was THE week where nobody in Japan was working, so I didn't know.
I remember MC being a bit late last year (a couple of hours), but then again maybe it was another week. Not that I'd be craving for numbers tomorrow, anyway, with the Nintendo financials.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Youkai Watch PS3?
That Nintendo betrayal.
i dont think thats possible.
Youkai Watch PS3?
I think it originally was a PS3 game judging from the first screenshots:
Level 5 always shows ridiculous bullshots when they announce a new game. They did the same with LBX. I wouldn't read too much into it.
Youkai Watch PS3?
You betrayed us by wearing this avatar, you beyoncé slave
Sammy Samusu
Member
Or Wii U, lolol.
Level 5 should add some sort of multiplayer mode to Youkai Watch 2, get that social appeal.
what if it is like no no kuni? release on 3ds first and then ps3 later
Considering this game is mostly geared toward the Japanese market and Ni No Kuni PS3 was a failure there, I'm not sure they're too keen on trying that plan again.
Lol, I don't know why I'm dying of laughter.
Youkai Watch PS3?
I wonder how much Sony had to pay for that product placement lol
theprodigy
Member
Nintendo's fiscal stuff releases in 3 hours?
*grabs popcorn*
*grabs popcorn*
Finally, a PS4 game which is NOT a port.
Ok, it's a Compile Heart game, which won't sell that much (due to being niche), whihc is a "idol x RPG"...but it's finally something. I hope there are more announcements for the next months, situation for 2014 is still awful.
Comgnet's retail chain preorder comparisons, as of May 7th, 2014
[3DS] Yokai Watch 2 - 124pt + 97pt = 221pt
[Wii] Mario Kart Wii - 108pt
[3DS] Mario Kart 7 - 97pt
[WiiU] Mario Kart 8 - 103pt
[PSV] Persona 4 The Golden - 121pt
[3DS] Etrian Odyssey IV - 46pt
[3DS] Shin Megami Tensei IV - 80pt
[3DS] Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl - 39pt
[3DS] Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth - 78pt
[PSV] Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 2 - 25pt
[PSV] Chō Megami Shinkō Noire: Gekishin Black Heart - 34pt + 19pt = 55pt
Ok, it's a Compile Heart game, which won't sell that much (due to being niche), whihc is a "idol x RPG"...but it's finally something. I hope there are more announcements for the next months, situation for 2014 is still awful.
Comgnet's retail chain preorder comparisons, as of May 7th, 2014
[3DS] Yokai Watch 2 - 124pt + 97pt = 221pt
[Wii] Mario Kart Wii - 108pt
[3DS] Mario Kart 7 - 97pt
[WiiU] Mario Kart 8 - 103pt
[PSV] Persona 4 The Golden - 121pt
[3DS] Etrian Odyssey IV - 46pt
[3DS] Shin Megami Tensei IV - 80pt
[3DS] Etrian Odyssey Untold: The Millennium Girl - 39pt
[3DS] Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth - 78pt
[PSV] Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 2 - 25pt
[PSV] Chō Megami Shinkō Noire: Gekishin Black Heart - 34pt + 19pt = 55pt
You should add Shin Megami Tensei IV, i think it will be a very good comparation.