Media Create Sales: Week 18, 2014 (Apr 28 - May 04)

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That is possible yes, though they do still have that option.
Yeah, I think some took the smartphone port announcements as a sign of transition away from or in place of dedicated game systems bit I don't think that's the case. They seem comparably low budget compared to what the previous conversions and remakes entailed and I still think we could see a higher effort version of VIII for 3DS or it's successor.
 

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By the way, is there some first-day sellthrough data this week (was there any release at all this Thursday?). Comgnet numbers?

I have to admit, it's kinda funny that the MC thread for GW ended up with barely 7 pages.
 
Mar 9, 2012
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By the way, is there some first-day sellthrough data this week (was there any release at all this Thursday?). Comgnet numbers?

I have to admit, it's kinda funny that the MC thread for GW ended up with barely 7 pages.
No releases this week.
Until Mario Kart 8 there's almost nothing we can comment, except for Japan Doomed.

I guess next week is the PS4 sub 10k week. So maybe more movement will be seen lol
 
Apr 4, 2010
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That's units sold verses shipments. Famitsu's numbers aren't shipments.
Yeah but I really doubt there's 1.4 millions GBA sitting on shelves or in some warehouse somewhere in Japan. Most likely Famitsu undertracked the GBA.

By the way, is there some first-day sellthrough data this week (was there any release at all this Thursday?). Comgnet numbers?

I have to admit, it's kinda funny that the MC thread for GW ended up with barely 7 pages.
This is the slowest period of the year for games sales. Golden Week isn't that big, so it's understandable the threads slow down considerably too during that time.

The MK8 week will probably be huge, wether or not the game does well.
 
Mar 22, 2007
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That's units sold verses shipments. Famitsu's numbers aren't shipments. Obviously not all of the advance shipment sold. Maybe they moved it to another region.
Sure, i know that, but the difference is huge, about 1.4 million in difference like Alrus mentioned. I dont think that Nintendo overshipped 1.4 million in Japan and had to reallocate them later on.
 

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No releases this week.
Until Mario Kart 8 there's almost nothing we can comment, except for Japan Doomed.

I guess next week is the PS4 sub 10k week. So maybe more movement will be seen lol
No releases at all? Well damn. Post GW week is always brutal, but since the whole market has been in a kind of slump since the start of the year + no release at all = ouch. It won't be pretty, especially if PS4 drops below 10k (something I could totally see happening).

And yeah, GW isn't nearly as big as it used to be in the past. Last year was already pretty meh, but this year it was even worse. Except YW, and the usual rise for Nintendo software, it was all pretty weak.

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This week, Famitsu put the 3DS ahead of the Gameboy Advance.:

3DS: 15.539.478
GBA final: 15.527.291

Nintendo shipments:

GBA final: 16.960.000
3DS: 15.890.000
What was the final numbers for GBA in MC?

But yeah, kinda interesting that the 3DS has surpasse the GBA because :

1) GBA had virtually no competition at all.
2) 3DS has much more competition... Vita may not be much of a threat (compared to the PSP), but mobile platforms are (which is why I really don't understand why people would say Nintendo wouldn't have any competitors in the handheld space if Sony doesn't replace the Vita... that's actually the opposite, competition would be even fiercer than ever).

So all in all, I find the 3DS's performance pretty good. The drop from DS is quite clear, but for the most part, it seems to be because of casuals going away.

Handheld next-gen is gonna pretty interesting.

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Maybe shipment figure includes some Asian countries ?
I doubt it, it'd fall in the 'Other' categories (besides Japan and North America), same as Europe. I don't remember Nintendo ever putting anything else under 'Japan'. Then again, maybe Aquamarine or another sales-ager could tell us more about this discrepancy.
 

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GBA had competition because the home console market was still major with the PS2 securing most 3rd party support. 3DS has more mobile competition, but thats all there is anyway. Homeconsoles are performing like shit - it'll be years until if we get another new one with an installed base of more than 10 million.
 
Apr 22, 2007
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Years, how do they work.
I'm not sure I follow.
It's May. General sales decline is expected and completely natural as we enter the summer months. September/Octoberish they rise again.
We have a decade or more of real-world data to back this up, it's always the same. Summers are slow for hardware. Holidays are awesome. Fall and spring are somewhere in between. It's an axiom.

And yet, every single time, starting April or so people look at the numbers, note a decline from previous weeks, and proclaim assorted market deaths, uh-ohs, doomtrains and so forth.

My failure is that I am too lazy to distill this historical precedent into an obvious, clear and easy to post single-image. I've thought about it many times, but if I do it I want to do it right. The question how to mix 52-week years with 53-week years is keeping me awake at night, not to mention the scraping of all the raw data in the first place.

As a bandaid, I point to the YTD hardware sales. But with the 700k+ hole the 3DS has torn into this year's total hardware, even that will require some additional debate to make a decent point.
 
Jan 25, 2012
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Monster Hunter Smart is their iOS game for one handed play.

It had a bunch of floor space advertising at TGS and is targeted for later this year.

Edit:

Since we're on this note, Capcom had these slides up for their mobile and PC online plans:
How long until we get Resident Evil on smartphones?
 
Jan 21, 2008
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sites.google.com
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/849/849902/

- Market: worst April in 10 years.

- Research on gaming devices usage:

2011
- 41.9% dedicated consoles
- 10.7% feature phones
- 5.1% smartphones
- 0.4% tablets

2014
- 32.1% dedicated consoles
- 23.8% smartphones
- 5.6% tablets
- 4.2% feature phones

(There's no details on the research, but if you could pick multiple options, we can't add the percentages.)
 
Nov 13, 2011
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http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/849/849902/

- Market: worst April in 10 years.

- Research on gaming devices usage:

2011
- 41.9% dedicated consoles
- 10.7% feature phones
- 5.1% smartphones
- 0.4% tablets

2014
- 32.1% dedicated consoles
- 23.8% smartphones
- 5.6% tablets
- 4.2% feature phones

(There's no details on the research, but if you could pick multiple options, we can't add the percentages.)
Yikes.

And to make matters worse, unlike the Western markets that are seeing a reversal of the cyclical downturn, there's really nothing on the horizon to turn these declines around.
 
Jan 2, 2013
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http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/849/849902/

- Market: worst April in 10 years.

- Research on gaming devices usage:

2011
- 41.9% dedicated consoles
- 10.7% feature phones
- 5.1% smartphones
- 0.4% tablets

2014
- 32.1% dedicated consoles
- 23.8% smartphones
- 5.6% tablets
- 4.2% feature phones

(There's no details on the research, but if you could pick multiple options, we can't add the percentages.)
So not only have smartphones and tablets completely overtaken feature phones, but a MUCH bigger share of the market is playing exclusively on phones and tablets?

That's...actually a lot more worrying than just raw sales numbers. It sounds like people are just swearing off dedicated gaming devices entirely, handheld or no.
 
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/000/849/849902/

- Market: worst April in 10 years.

- Research on gaming devices usage:

2011
- 41.9% dedicated consoles
- 10.7% feature phones
- 5.1% smartphones
- 0.4% tablets

2014
- 32.1% dedicated consoles
- 23.8% smartphones
- 5.6% tablets
- 4.2% feature phones

(There's no details on the research, but if you could pick multiple options, we can't add the percentages.)
In case anyone is curious why Japanese publishers insist on focusing on mobile, take this and combine it with the complete collapse of Japanese publisher market share in the West.
 
Aug 10, 2012
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This week, Famitsu put the 3DS ahead of the Gameboy Advance.:

3DS: 15.539.478
GBA final: 15.527.291

Nintendo shipments:

GBA final: 16.960.000
3DS: 15.890.000
Software shipments:

3DS: 61.24m*
GBA: 73.11M

*Include DD cards but not eshop sales I believe.

Nintendo systems Japanese software shipments:

Famicom: 225.86m
Nintendo DS: 213.09m
Super Famicom: 194.85m
Game Boy: 157.06m
Wii: 75.11m
Game Boy Advance: 73.11m
Nintendo 3DS: 61.24m
Nintendo 64: 39.75m
Nintendo GameCube: 27.54m
Wii U: 5.62m
 
Jul 28, 2012
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Software shipments:

3DS: 61.24m*
GBA: 73.11M

*Include DD cards but not eshop sales I believe.

Nintendo systems Japanese software shipments:

Famicom: 225.86m
Nintendo DS: 213.09m
Super Famicom: 194.85m
Game Boy: 157.06m
Wii: 75.11m
Game Boy Advance: 73.11m
Nintendo 3DS: 61.24m
Nintendo 64: 39.75m
Nintendo GameCube: 27.54m
Wii U: 5.62m
Wow, do you have software shipments of playstation consoles. I'm curious
 
Aug 10, 2012
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Wow, do you have software shipments of playstation consoles. I'm curious
Only PS1 and PS2. Figures includ Asia.

PS1:270m (as of December 31, 2001)
PS2:228m (as of March 31, 2007)


Unfortunately the page with those figures no longer exists.

Parmenides said:
-Cumulative Production Shipments of Software

-Source: Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.


-It's no longer available, unfortunately.

-Figures for Japan include shipments to Asian countries and regions including South Korea
 

L~A

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Is there a list of previous Golden Weeks? Would be interesting to see where 2014 stacks up against recent history.
There's links in the OP with threads for the past few years. Just chose the weeks for April 29-May 5.

For example, past 3 years :

Media Create Sales: Week 18, 2013 (Apr 29 - May 05)

01./01. [3DS] Friend Collection: New Life # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} (¥4.800) - 208.814 / 758.575 (+44%)
02./03. [3DS] Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon <ACT> (Nintendo) {2013.03.20} (¥4.800) - 64.420 / 660.575 (+66%)
03./06. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 47.128 / 3.175.398 (+49%)
04./02. [PS3] Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen <ACT> (Capcom) {2013.04.25} (¥4.990) - 31.319 / 156.682 (-75%)
05./27. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.02.28} (¥5.800) - 15.094 / 177.157
06./04. [PS3] Tomb Raider <ADV> (Square Enix) {2013.04.25} (¥7.980) - 12.899 / 48.149 (-63%)
07./09. [PS3] Naruto Shippuden: Narutimate Storm 3 <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.04.18} (¥7.480) - 12.096 / 117.593 (-32%)
08./20. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥4.800) - 10.875 / 2.019.369 (+78%)
09./19. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.11.29} (¥5.040) - 9.984 / 469.436 (+61%)
10./11. [PSP] 7th Dragon 2020-II <RPG> (Sega) {2013.04.18} (¥6.279) - 8.985 / 97.862 (-41%)
11./28. [3DS] Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.05} (¥5.040) - 8.979 / 478.092 (+98%)
12./07. [PSV] PhotoKano Kiss <SLG> (Kadokawa Games) {2013.04.25} (¥7.140) - 8.632 / 38.804 (-71%)
13./24. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 8.564 / 2.043.216 (+71%)
14./34. [3DS] Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.07.12} (¥5.040) - 6.464 / 479.603
15./23. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate (Best Price!) <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.11.15} (¥3.800) - 6.302 / 301.422 (+23%)
16./14. [3DS] Detective Conan: Marionette Symphony <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.04.25} (¥5.480) - 6.061 / 15.326 (-35%)
17./29. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥3.980) - 6.012 / 139.803 (+38%)
18./21. [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2013.03.20} (¥8.190) - 5.969 / 389.990 (+11%)
19./05. [PS3] Steins;Gate: Senkei Kousoku no Phonogram # <ADV> (5pb.) {2013.04.25} (¥7.140) - 5.144 / 39.436 (-85%)
20./30. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2013 <SPT> (Konami) {2013.03.20} (¥7.980) - 4.861 / 164.386 (+15%)

Top 50

3DS - 20
PS3 - 11
PSV - 5
WII - 5
PSP - 4
WIU - 4
NDS - 1

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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|  ALL  |    827.000 |    894.000 |    836.000 | 16.878.000 | 16.549.000 |
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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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| 3DS # |     76.463 |     55.433 |     91.868 |  1.569.800 |  1.627.266 |  11.349.680 |
|  PSV  |     22.051 |     21.399 |     10.583 |    427.960 |    250.773 |   1.558.785 |
|  PS3  |     17.415 |     14.682 |     23.478 |    380.772 |    518.739 |   9.240.856 |
|  WIU  |     13.173 |      8.262 |            |    281.960 |            |     909.247 |
| PSP # |      8.443 |      7.536 |     20.033 |    250.347 |    360.213 |  19.879.358 |
|  WII  |      2.238 |      1.660 |     15.789 |     34.643 |    206.117 |  12.673.479 |
|  360  |        596 |        490 |      1.420 |     12.177 |     27.342 |   1.626.011 |
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|  ALL  |    140.379 |    109.462 |    166.693 |  2.957.659 |  3.048.195 |  57.237.416 |
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| 3DSLL |     50.190 |     37.536 |            |    992.513 |            |   3.082.884 |
|  3DS  |     26.273 |     17.897 |     91.868 |    577.287 |  1.627.266 |   8.266.796 |
|  PSP  |      8.443 |      7.536 |     20.033 |    250.347 |    360.213 |  19.703.371 |
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Media Create Sales: Week 17, 2013 (Apr 22 - Apr 28)
Media Create Sales: Week 18, 2012 (Apr 30 - May 06)



01./02. [WII] Mario Party 9 <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.04.26} (¥5.800) - 144.585 / 297.468 (-5%)
02./01. [PS3] Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.04.26} (¥6.990) - 52.428 / 304.953 (-79%)
03./03. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800) - 42.347 / 345.260 (-30%)
04./09. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - 28.528 / 1.563.527 (+82%)
05./14. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 22.881 / 1.695.305 (+96%)
06./15. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.22} (¥5.800) - 18.788 / 261.883 (+63%)
07./11. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800) - 16.496 / 1.433.370 (+21%)
08./21. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.01} (¥4.800) - 13.810 / 157.337 (+123%)
09./05. [PSP] Conception: Please Give Birth to My Child! <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2012.04.26} (¥6.279) - 10.193 / 40.039 (-66%)
10./20. [WII] Wii Sports Resort with Wii Remote Plus # <SPT> (Nintendo) {2010.11.11} (¥5.800) - 10.058 / 935.555 (+61%)
11./18. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.03.29} (¥5.980) - 9.843 / 128.409 (+48%)
12./16. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D -Dream Drop Distance- # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.03.29} (¥6.090) - 9.532 / 308.484 (+3%)
13./22. [NDS] Pokemon Conquest <SLG> (Pokemon Co.) {2012.03.17} (¥5.800) - 9.069 / 318.067 (+50%)
14./10. [3DS] Dynasty Warriors Vs. <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.04.26} (¥6.090) - 8.614 / 24.192 (-45%)
15./23. [WII] Wii Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2010.07.08} (¥4.800) - 8.503 / 2.345.476
16./19. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.03.29} (¥7.980) - 6.853 / 152.934 (+8%)
17./29. [WII] Mario Kart Wii <RCE> (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} (¥5.800) - 6.783 / 3.561.199 (+93%)
18./17. [PSP] 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Saisei-hen <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.05} (¥7.330) - 6.546 / 328.432 (-23%)
19./27. [3DS] Harvest Moon: The Land of Origin <SLG> (Marvelous AQL) {2012.02.23} (¥5.040) - 6.408 / 179.148
20./32. [WII] Go Vacation <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.10.20} (¥5.800) - 6.002 / 271.087
21./24. [3DS] Cho-ricchi! Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)
22./39. [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.27} (¥5.800)
23./30. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends <ETC> (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} (¥4.800)
24./25. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (PSP the Best) <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.09.22} (¥2.990)
25./06. [PSP] Steins;Gate: Hiyoku Renri no Darling # <ADV> (5pb.) {2012.04.26} (¥6.090)
26./35. [WII] Just Dance Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.13} (¥5.800)
27./04. [PSV] Ciel Nosurge: Ushinawareta Hoshi e Sasagu Uta # <ETC> (Gust) {2012.04.26} (¥5.040)
28./40. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2009.12.03} (¥5.800)
29./28. [NDS] Detective Conan: Prelude from the Past <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)
30./31. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2010.09.18} (¥4.800)
31./47. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Definitive Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.11.23} (¥5.040)
32./33. [3DS] Hatsune Miku and Future Stars: Project Mirai # <ACT> (Sega) {2012.03.08} (¥6.090)
33./45. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl <FTG> (Nintendo) {2008.01.31} (¥6.800)
34./00. [WII] Family Fishing # <SPT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.08.04} (¥5.040)
35./12. [PSP] Even in a Game, Listen to Me Girls. I Am Your Father! # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.26} (¥6.280)
36./13. [PSP] Ao no Exorcist: Genkoku no Labyrinth # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.26} (¥5.230)
37./41. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 XL Edition <RCE> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2012.02.02} (¥4.980)
38./42. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2011.12.15} (¥7.980)
39./43. [PSP] Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories (Rockstar Classics) <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2011.07.21} (¥2.500)
40./34. [PSP] Black Panther 2: Yakuza Ashura Chapter <ADV> (Sega) {2012.03.22} (¥6.279)
41./00. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.05.26} (¥6.090)
42./46. [PS3] Winning Post 7 2012 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.03.15} (¥7.560)
43./00. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. <ACT> (Nintendo) {2006.05.25} (¥4.800)
44./00. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Shine / Dark <RPG> (Level 5) {2011.12.15} (¥5.800)
45./48. [3DS] Mame Goma: Shiro to Kuro no Meikyuu <SLG> (Nippon) {2012.04.26} (¥5.040)
46./00. [3DS] Pokemon Rumble Blast <ACT> (Pokemon Co.) {2011.08.11} (¥4.800)
47./36. [PS3] Devil May Cry HD Collection <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.03.22} (¥4.990)
48./00. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D <ADV> (Nintendo) {2011.06.16} (¥4.800)
49./49. [3DS] Theatrhythm Final Fantasy <ACT> (Square Enix) {2012.02.16} (¥6.090)
50./50. [PS3] One Piece: Pirate Warriors # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.03.01} (¥8.190)

Top 50

3DS - 18
WII - 11
PSP - 9
PS3 - 7
NDS - 4
PSV - 1

SOFTWARE
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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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|  ALL  |    836.000 |  1.039.000 |    697.000 | 16.549.000 | 16.681.000 |
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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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|  3DS  |     91.868 |     74.282 |     29.149 |  1.627.266 |    977.695 |   5.909.409 |
|  PS3  |     23.478 |     21.114 |     20.883 |    518.739 |    491.190 |   8.155.124 |
| PSP # |     20.033 |     22.457 |     55.140 |    360.213 |    884.339 |  19.089.597 |
|  WII  |     15.789 |      9.200 |     11.520 |    206.117 |    266.389 |  12.369.338 |
|  PSV  |     10.583 |     12.299 |            |    250.773 |            |     690.759 |
| NDS # |      1.911 |      1.612 |     19.516 |     36.261 |    413.049 |  32.844.747 |
|  PS2  |      1.611 |      1.395 |      1.696 |     21.484 |     30.839 |  21.795.591 |
|  360  |      1.420 |      1.327 |      3.419 |     27.342 |     45.011 |   1.563.387 |
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|  ALL  |    166.693 |    143.686 |    141.323 |  3.048.195 |  3.108.512 | 102.417.952 |
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| DSiLL |      1.097 |        895 |     10.519 |     20.648 |    213.572 |   2.314.967 |
|  DSi  |        814 |        717 |      8.708 |     15.613 |    181.629 |   5.849.663 |
|  PSP  |     20.033 |     22.457 |     54.882 |    360.213 |    869.503 |  18.913.610 |
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Media Create Sales: Week 17, 2012 (Apr 23 - Apr 29)
Media Create Sales: Week 18, 2011 (May 2 - May 8)

01. / 01. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 - Professional (Square Enix) {2011.03.31} - 43.886 / 454.781 (-40%)
02. / 04. [PSP] Patapon 3 (SCE) {2011.04.28} - 21.546 / 70.924 (-56%)
03. / 07. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2011 (Konami) {2011.04.14} - 20.090 / 141.869 (-11%)
04. / 02. [PSP] Final Promise Story (Image Epoch) {2011.04.28} - 18.185 / 78.621 (-70%)
05. / 06. [PSP] Dai-2-Ji Super Robot Wars Z: Hakai-hen (Bandai Namco) {2011.04.14} - 13.670 / 392.674 (-49%)
06. / 08. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2011 (Konami) {2011.04.14} - 12.754/ 140.478 (-24%)
07. / 11. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) {2010.07.08} - 12.433 / 1.881.598 (+38%)
08. / 20. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White (Pokemon Co.) {2010.09.18} - 9.868 / 5.172.829 (+32%)
09. / 12. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} - 9.643 / 214.838 (+8%)
10. / 22. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} - 9.298 / 3.221.200
11. / 10. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (Capcom) {2010.12.01} - 9.019 / 4.466.245 (-16%)
12. / 28. [WII] Donkey Kong Country Returns (Nintendo) {2010.12.09} - 8.944 / 892.946
13. / 03. [PS3] El Shaddai: Ascension of the Metatron (Ignition) {2011.04.28} - 8.579 / 66.684 (-85%)
14. / 13. [3DS] Pilotwings Resort (Nintendo) {2011.04.14} - 8.260 / 54.407 (-7%)
15. / 05. [NDS] Battle & Get! Pokemon Typing DS (Pokemon Co.) {2011.04.21} - 7.499 / 99.485 (-77%)
16. / 30. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) {2009.12.03} - 6.973 / 4.281.175
17. / 29. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (w/ Remote Plus) (Nintendo) {2010.11.11} - 6.809 / 329.832
18. / 16. [PSP] Final Fantasy IV: The Complete Collection (Square Enix) {2011.03.24} - 6.560 / 186.012 (-19%)
19. / 15. [NDS] Detective Conan: Aoki Houseki no Rinbukyoku (Bandai Namco) {2011.04.21} - 6.253 / 34.749 (-28%)
20. / 21. [PSP] Earth Defence Force 2 Portable (D3 Publisher) {2011.04.07} - 6.055 / 102.261 (-17%)

21. / 27. [3DS] Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle (Level 5) {2011.02.26}
22. / 36. [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) {2006.05.25}
23. / 34. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) {2009.10.01}
24. / 18. [PSP] GachiTora! Abarenbou Kyoushi in High School (Spike) {2011.04.21}
25. / 23. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 7 (Koei Tecmo) {2011.03.10}
26. / 26. [PSP] Amagami (EBKore+) (Kadokawa Shoten) {2011.03.31}
27. / 42. [NDS] Magician's Quest: The Merchant’s Store of Sorcery (Konami) {2010.11.11}
28. / 31. [PSP] Phantasy Star Portable 2: Infinity (Sega) {2011.02.24}
29. / 47. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! The Ogre (Level 5) {2010.12.16}
30. / 40. [WII] Momotaro Railway 2010: Sengoku Ishin no Hero Daishuugou! no Maki [Everyone's Recommendation Selection] (Hudson) {2011.01.20}
31. / 00. [WII] Super Mario All-Stars (Nintendo) {2010.10.21}
32. / 41. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) {2010.11.18}
33. / 46. [NDS] Friend Collection (Nintendo) {2009.06.18}
34. / 00. [NDS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) {2005.12.08}
35. / 00. [WII] Mario Sports Mix (Nintendo) {2010.11.25}
36. / 49. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii 3 (Bandai Namco) {2010.12.02}
37. / 44. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Nintendo) {2008.01.31}
38. / 24. [PS3] SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs 4 (SCE) {2011.04.21}
39. / 39. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2011 (Konami) {2010.10.28}
40. / 00. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle (Bandai Namco) {2010.09.09}
41. / 25. [PSP] Persona 2: Innocent Sin (Atlus Co.) {2011.04.14}
42. / 38. [WII] Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles [Best Price!] (Capcom) {2011.04.21}
43. / 45. [PSP] Monster Hunter Diary: Pokapoka Ailu Village [PSP the Best] (Capcom) {2011.04.21}
44. / 00. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master DS: Dororon! Battle With the Ghouls!! (Bandai Namco) {2010.07.01}
45. / 35. [PSP] Dissidia: 012 (Duodecim) Final Fantasy (Square Enix) {2011.03.03}
46. / 37. [NDS] Original Story from Fairy Tail: Gekitotsu! Kardia Daiseidou (Hudson) {2011.04.21}
47. / 43. [PS3] Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition [PlayStation 3 the Best] (Capcom) {2010.11.11}
48. / 00. [PSP] Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker [PSP the Best] (Konami) {2011.02.24}
49. / 00. [NDS] Dragon Ball: Ultimate Fighter (Bandai Namco) {2011.02.03}
50. / 00. [NDS] Tamagotchi no Narikiri Challenge (Bandai Namco) {2010.11.11}


PSP - 15
NDS - 14
WII - 12
PS3 - 6
3DS - 3
360 - 0
PS2 - 0


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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year |        YTD |   Last YTD |            
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|  ALL  |   697.000 |   885.000 | 1.071.699 | 16.681.000 | 20.781.010 |       
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year |        YTD |   Last YTD |         LTD |            
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|  PSP  |    55.140 |    77.225 |    36.697 |    884.339 |    908.151 |  17.534.551 |      
|  3DS  |    29.149 |    28.413 |         0 |    977.695 |          0 |     977.695 |      
|  PS3  |    20.883 |    23.954 |    26.185 |    491.190 |    602.343 |   6.578.680 |      
|  NDS  |    19.516 |    17.138 |    46.393 |    413.049 |    876.857 |  32.563.748 |      
|  WII  |    11.520 |    10.889 |    31.399 |    266.389 |    662.904 |  11.546.024 |      
|  360  |     3.419 |     4.082 |     4.278 |     45.011 |     60.181 |   1.465.508 |      
|  PS2  |     1.696 |     1.582 |     1.491 |     30.839 |     34.142 |  21.726.931 |      
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|  ALL  |   141.323 |   163.283 |   146.443 |  3.108.512 |  3.144.578 |  92.393.137 |      
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| DSiLL |    10.519 |     9.235 |    26.733 |    213.572 |    455.467 |   2.161.155 |      
|  DSi  |     8.708 |     7.584 |    15.739 |    181.629 |    333.531 |   5.725.353 |      
|  DSL  |       289 |       319 |     3.921 |     17.848 |     87.859 |  18.091.769 |      
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|  PSP  |    54.882 |    76.974 |    35.233 |    869.503 |    877.793 |  17.359.291 |      
| PSPgo |       258 |       251 |     1.464 |     14.836 |     30.358 |     175.260 |      
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Media Create Sales: Week 17, 2011 (Apr 25 - May 1)


Looking back at those numbers, I'm now 100% convinced the casual boom of the Wii/DS is pretty much the main (sole?) reason GW is usually described a pretty big deal... whereas it just seems to have roughly the same effect as any other holiday.
 
Here's the exact Sega quote about converting more of their series to digital:

Sega said:
The packaged game software field in the consumer business will continue to undergo rationalization, in an effort
to establish a structure that can consistently generate profit. We will also push forth with the digital conversion of
existing package IPs.
For the fiscal year ending March 31, 2015, estimated total volume of packaged software
sales is 12,780 thousand copies, including 4,540 thousand copies in the U.S., 4,890 thousand in Europe and 3,340
thousand in Japan.

In the digital game software field, together with continuing operations of our major online service “PHANTASY
STAR ONLINE 2,” we will also strengthen our work on service for smartphones and tablet PCs. For the fiscal
year ending March 31, 2015, the Group plans to introduce 43 new titles domestically (including 13 Pay-to-play
types and 30 Free-to-play types) in the digital game software field.
Source: http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/ir/library/pdf/settlement/2014/201403_tanshin_final_e.pdf
 

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Random question, but which do you guys think will sell more in Japan? Persona 5 or Tales of Zestiria? No Persona game has touched Xillia 1 or 2 sales (600k+) and I think Zestiria has a shot at 450-500k+ (I'm not sure if it'll reach Xillia 2 sales). On the other hand P5 has a lot of build up behind it it with all the cross media promotion for the other games and lots of other Persona games and ports.

P5 is also #1 in Famitsu's Most Wanted list (also Last Remnant refuses to drop lol). FMW isn't the best metric for sales (Persona Q is two spots above Zestiria but I think everyone would agree Zestiria is going to sell more), but it's still interesting.

01/01. [PS3] Persona 5 (Atlus, Winter 2014) – 678 votes
02/05. [Wii U] Mario Kart 8 (Nintendo, 05/29/14) – 614 votes
03/02. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate (Capcom, Fall 2014) – 607 votes
04/04. [3DS] Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth (Atlus, 06/05/14) – 578 votes
05/03. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV (Square Enix, TBA) – 576 votes
06/08. [PS3] Tales of Zestiria (Bandai Namco, TBA) – 379 votes
07/06. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts III (Square Enix, TBA) – 366 votes
08/11. [PSV] Freedom Wars (SCEJ, 06/26/14) – 339 votes
 
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Random question, but which do you guys think will sell more in Japan? Persona 5 or Tales of Zestiria? No Persona game has touched Xillia 1 or 2 sales (600k+) and I think Zestiria has a shot at 450-500k+ (I'm not sure if it'll reach Xillia 2 sales). On the other hand P5 has a lot of build up behind it it with all the cross media promotion for the other games and lots of other Persona games and ports.

P5 is also #1 in Famitsu's Most Wanted list (also Last Remnant refuses to drop lol). FMW isn't the best metric for sales (Persona Q is two spots above Zestiria but I think everyone would agree Zestiria is going to sell more), but it's still interesting.
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Random question, but which do you guys think will sell more in Japan? Persona 5 or Tales of Zestiria? No Persona game has touched Xillia 1 or 2 sales (600k+) and I think Zestiria has a shot at 450-500k+ (I'm not sure if it'll reach Xillia 2 sales). On the other hand P5 has a lot of build up behind it it with all the cross media promotion for the other games and lots of other Persona games and ports.

P5 is also #1 in Famitsu's Most Wanted list (also Last Remnant refuses to drop lol). FMW isn't the best metric for sales (Persona Q is two spots above Zestiria but I think everyone would agree Zestiria is going to sell more), but it's still interesting.
i feel like persona would sell more than tales in the west but tales will beat it in japan.
 

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Persona 5 will probably be around 300k, whereas Tales of Zestiria will probably be 500k.
P4 sold ~295k according to Garaph and Golden sold ~230k. I really doubt P5 will only sell 300k. That would exhibit little growth. I think P5 will sell 400k at least.

Edit: Wait I forgot Golden shipped 350k. But point stands anyway.
 
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P4 sold ~295k according to Garaph and Golden sold ~230k. I really doubt P5 will only sell 300k. That would exhibit little growth. I think P5 will sell 400k at least.
Golden apparently did 350k when you combine shipped+digital sales, not like you can channel stuff a Vita game either, even in Japan.


edit: also the best version of P4 did like 40k I think.
 
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I'm gonna say Persona.
I think Tales of Zestiria will suffer from its yearly releases. We've already seen a decline for Xillia 2 and Symphonia HD compilation, and i'm sure first Xillia numbers are unreachable now.

In the other side, a main Persona game has been long awaited, and the fanbase is growing everyday. I can perfectly see the game reaching the 500k mark.
 
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I think Persona 4 Golden could've largely been the same audience, as was the case with Project Diva.
Other PS3 franchises have suffered due to the system's long life, so I don't think 300k is too crazy.
 
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I think Persona 4 Golden could've largely been the same audience, as was the case with Project Diva.
Other PS3 franchises have suffered due to the system's long life, so I don't think 300k is too crazy.
Definitely, a chink of the audience is there but I don't think they are that dedicated. There are definitely fans out there who don't own a Vita and the movies, anime and 3DS game will definitely bring some people in.
 
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I'm expecting somewhere around 450k for Persona 5.

I'm gonna say Persona.
I think Tales of Zestiria will suffer from its yearly releases. We've already seen a decline for Xillia 2 and Symphonia HD compilation, and i'm sure first Xillia numbers are unreachable now.

In the other side, a main Persona game has been long awaited, and the fanbase is growing everyday. I can perfectly see the game reaching the 500k mark.
I'm not expecting Zesteria to sell Xillia numbers, but Xillia 2 and Symphonia HD selling less were expected.

Definitely, a chink of the audience is there but I don't think they are that dedicated. There are definitely fans out there who don't own a Vita and the movies, anime and 3DS game will definitely bring some people in.
I really feel that all of that stuff only appeals to people who are already into the series. I don't see the games bringing in new people, while the movies and anime are basically targeting the exact same people who watched the first anime and they're the reason why the Vita game did so well.
 

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I'm gonna say Persona.
I think Tales of Zestiria will suffer from its yearly releases. We've already seen a decline for Xillia 2 and Symphonia HD compilation, and i'm sure first Xillia numbers are unreachable now.

In the other side, a main Persona game has been long awaited, and the fanbase is growing everyday. I can perfectly see the game reaching the 500k mark.
What are you comparing ToS HD numbers to? I think it's a good thing for Zestiria that the "major" Tales release for 2013 was just ToS HD. Xillia 2 released late 2012, while Zestiria is going to release late 2014. That's 2 years or so between mothership titles.

I think Persona 4 Golden could've largely been the same audience, as was the case with Project Diva.
Other PS3 franchises have suffered due to the system's long life, so I don't think 300k is too crazy.
A lot of people have been waiting for P5, and probably another Atlus console game in general (despite mobiles/handhelds taking over), so I don't think it's worth comparing it to other franchises. There are no other Megaten games on PS3 (unfortunately).

Also I find it kinda interesting that P4D doesn't appear on Famitsu's Most Wanted at all. I guess Famitsu readership isn't geared to dancing titles, even if it's Persona, though I think it'll sell fine regardless.
 
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What are you comparing ToS HD numbers to? I think it's a good thing for Zestiria that the "major" Tales release for 2013 was just ToS HD. Xillia 2 released late 2012, while Zestiria is going to release late 2014. That's 2 years or so between mothership titles.



A lot of people have been waiting for P5, and probably another Atlus console game in general (despite mobiles/handhelds taking over), so I don't think it's worth comparing it to other franchises. There are no other Megaten games on PS3 (unfortunately).
Said this a million times before but SMT IV could have done some significant numbers on PS3, not saying that the 3DS numbers weren't good though.
 
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What are you comparing ToS HD numbers to? I think it's a good thing for Zestiria that the "major" Tales release for 2013 was just ToS HD. Xillia 2 released late 2012, while Zestiria is going to release late 2014. That's 2 years or so between mothership titles.



A lot of people have been waiting for P5, and probably another Atlus console game in general (despite mobiles/handhelds taking over), so I don't think it's worth comparing it to other franchises. There are no other Megaten games on PS3 (unfortunately).

Also I find it kinda interesting that P4D doesn't appear on Famitsu's Most Wanted at all. I guess Famitsu readership isn't geared to dancing titles, even if it's Persona, though I think it'll sell fine regardless.
The issue I have with P4D is that its a Project Diva game that doesn't feature the very reasons why the series is popular.
 
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A lot of the brand strength is also specifically centered around Persona 4 and its characters as well, rather than the franchise as a whole.
So I'm just not expecting the level of growth that most of you guys are.
 

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A lot of the brand strength is also specifically centered around Persona 4 and its characters as well, rather than the franchise as a whole.
So I'm just not expecting the level of growth that most of you guys are.
Anyone know how well the P3 movie did?

Even if a lot of people are attached P4 characters, I think many of those people will be looking forward to P5 regardless.