metalslimer
Member
In Japan. The Wii U is a diaster in Europe, is collapsing hard in Japan, and I wouldn't expect much from the USA in January.
Uh...no?
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Media Create Sales: Week 2, 2013 (Jan 07 - Jan 13)
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In Japan. The Wii U is a diaster in Europe, is collapsing hard in Japan, and I wouldn't expect much from the USA in January.
Uh...no?
Well some of them are pretty old, or pretty dead.
KillerMan91
Member
As a side note, Sony really should drop the price of both Vita and PS3 now when christmas season is over. Especially that plastic new slim PS3 must have insane margins with so strong yen.
...no? It's a standard post-holiday drop.
The majority of those titles are very minor games though, and it also includes three versions of the same game.
Edit: beaten
Errr...I doubt very much that Iwata & co. are worried about their jobs.
Re-release Xenoblade Chronicles.
Which was expected.
No way it gets consistent 10k levels. Nintendo is in a very bad spot right now, but people really forget how easily they can turn it around.
Pokemon MMO for the console. BAM 10 billion units sold.
WiiU Fit. BAM 10 billion units sold (although they should've released that this past holiday season so people could buy it for their New Year's Resolutions).
Super Smash Brothers. BAM. 10 billion units sold.
Nintendo doesn't even really have to dig that deep to sell the console. They just have to do it. I still expect them to do well- but they have to provide a new experience. They don't necessarily have to convince other companies to help them provide new experiences, but it'd certainly help with consumers.
So, YoY the number of titles being released in this period has nearly doubled? That's crazy!
Aquamarine
Member
metalslimer
Member
With that kind of drop off, Wii U will be sub 10k consistently through February at least. Wii U Fit will give a temporary few week modest boost.
electroplankton
Banned
That's pretty poor given that last year was a post-launch period, and this year is the second one in the market for Vita; never seen such an abysmal performance software-wise. 360 had a better line-up in the same period 6 years ago.
It is.
Level-5 apologizes for the lack of supply.
It is a year further into its life. Same thing applies to the comparison with the Wii U.
Kacho
Gold Member
No way, dude.
Bruno MB
Member
Code:
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| | [B]AC: Wild World[/B] | [B]AC: New Leaf[/B] |
| | [NDS] (2005/11/23)| [3DS] (2012/11/08)|
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|
|Week| Weekly | LTD | Weekly | LTD |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|
| 1 | 335.425| 335.425| 721.786| 721.786|
| 2 | 142.869| 478.294| 315.317|1.037.103|
| 3 | 116.965| 595.259| 237.823|1.274.926|
| 4 | 192.571| 787.830| 118.898|1.393.824|
| 5 | 381.927|1.169.757| 115.556|1.509.380|
| 6 | 169.795|1.339.552| 213.329|1.722.709|
| 7 | 152.339|1.491.891| 400.320|2.123.029|
| 8 | 64.242|1.556.133| 163.948|2.286.977|
| 9 | 89.892|1.646.025| 135.971|2.422.948|
| 10 | 93.443|1.739.468| 86.926|2.509.874|
| 11 | 69.401|1.808.869| | |
| 12 | 55.169|1.864.038| | |
| 13 | 53.594|1.917.632| | |
| 14 | 57.383|1.975.015| | |
| 15 | 88.709|2.063.724| | |
| 16 | 93.508|2.157.232| | |
| 17 | 88.292|2.245.524| | |
| 18 | 101.839|2.347.363| | |
| 19 | 95.034|2.442.397| | |
| 20 | 68.889|2.511.286| | |
| 21 | 49.596|2.560.882| | |
| 22 | 40.608|2.601.490| | |
| 23 | -| -| | |
| 24 | -|2.713.688| | |
| 25 | 30.887|2.744.575| | |
| 26 | 31.802|2.776.377| | |
| 27 | 36.245|2.812.622| | |
| 28 | 30.319|2.842.941| | |
| 29 | 29.343|2.872.284| | |
| 30 | 29.525|2.901.809| | |
| 31 | 24.808|2.926.617| | |
| 32 | 23.200|2.949.817| | |
| 33 | 20.480|2.970.297| | |
| 34 | 17.968|2.988.265| | |
| 35 | 25.361|3.013.626| | |
| 36 | 21.083|3.034.709| | |
| 37 | 21.501|3.056.210| | |
| 38 | -| -| | |
| 39 | -|3.115.414| | |
| 40 | 21.492|3.136.906| | |
| 41 | 22.565|3.159.471| | |
| 42 | 18.772|3.178.243| | |
| 43 | 20.634|3.198.877| | |
| 44 | 20.447|3.219.324| | |
| 45 | 19.713|3.239.037| | |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|
|Year| YTD | LTD | YTD | LTD |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|
| 1 |1.169.757|1.169.757|2.286.977|2.286.997|
| 2 |2.485.264|3.665.021| 222.897|2.509.874|
| 3 | 858.501|4.513.522| -| -|
| 4 | 338.531|4.852.053| -| -|
| 5 | 258.996|5.111.049| -| -|
| 6 | 46.432|5.157.481| -| -|
| 7 | 37.181|5.194.662| -| -|
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|
| LTD| -|5.194.662| -|2.509.874|
----------------------------------------------Some of those titles will be lucky to hit 20k ltd.
Who are you quoting?
I swear, this thread is ridiculous. One minute it's OK to bring up the EU / US Vita release schedule for no reason, the next minute you can't be surprised at the number of titles being released for a system because they aren't system sellers.
Look, the Vita is doomed. Everyone knows it's doomed. Nothing can or will save it. Your narrative is not in any danger so you don't need to step to every (slightly) positive comment like it spat in your face.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Come one, come all, and bare witness to The Final Nintendo Home Console.
All in on handhelds from the next junction point, theres just nothing they have to bring to the home box market any longer.
All in on handhelds from the next junction point, theres just nothing they have to bring to the home box market any longer.
test_account
XP-39C²
Yeah, i think it was maybe 2 persons saying that. It wont happen potentially before a price drop. In comparison, i think more people expected the WiiU to be a slaughter (in a good way) in Japan and get the main share of 3rd party support. Whoops there as well :/ But nothing wrong about being wrong though, in my opinion. These things are mostly based around guesses afterall, and unexpected things (for better or worse) can happen.
metalslimer
Member
2 bungled launches in a row? Unless they fix this very quickly, someone is losing their jobs. Wii U is having one of the slowest console performances ever in the UK.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Nintendo really seems to have no feel on the market right now.
Guess NSMB isn't as huge as I (or Iwata it seems) thought in terms of system selling power.
Think they can still turn it around if they start making casual hits again, but they haven't had many recently and Sony and Microsoft will be competing against them in that space in this generation so it's going to be even harder than before.
Guess NSMB isn't as huge as I (or Iwata it seems) thought in terms of system selling power.
Think they can still turn it around if they start making casual hits again, but they haven't had many recently and Sony and Microsoft will be competing against them in that space in this generation so it's going to be even harder than before.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
20k? :lol holy shit, I wouldn't have gone that low even as a joke prediction.
Based on a Japan sales thread, no-one is losing their job at Nintendo over this just yet unless they are really short-sighted. They recovered the 3DS and DS. Then Wii was a hit we all know it was so they'll give this time. Not even the most short-sighted of companies would kick people out after a few short weeks.
Worldwide, someone needs to do something with NoE. They are just horrible.
Not at all surprising IMO considering the < 10K numbers it was pulling prior to December.
The Horror the horror
Banned
Nintendo's game announcement policy is a joke.
They think they're still in the 90s and early 2000s again, surrounded by plagiarizing competitors looking to undercut Nintendo on its own ideas, so they keep the lid on the news until the last possible minute. Newsflash Nintendo: No one cares, and even if they did, with the current development cycles it would take them at least a year to copy.
They think they're still in the 90s and early 2000s again, surrounded by plagiarizing competitors looking to undercut Nintendo on its own ideas, so they keep the lid on the news until the last possible minute. Newsflash Nintendo: No one cares, and even if they did, with the current development cycles it would take them at least a year to copy.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
More likely we'll see a convergence between the handheld and console market. 4DS able to function as a Wii U pad?
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
The 3DS momentum picked up eventually with Zelda 3D, Star Fox, Mario Kart and Mario 3D Land though, all of which were announced prior 3DS launch. The Wii U has nothing except for probably Pikmin 3.
Well to be honest there's a strong chance this will be the last gen of home consoles by Nintendo,Sony or Microsoft...certainly in the form we have come to know them.
metalslimer
Member
I wasn't suggesting that they will all be fired in a few weeks or even a few months. The true impact of this will need to be measured. Oh, but yeah NoE is screwed either way, they couldn't even have the first couple of weeks be mediocre.
Kacho
Gold Member
Yeah, the consecutive poor launches aren't good, but they've managed to turn things around with the 3DS. I'm sure Iwata and company will be given some time to turn things around in all the markets with the Wii U.
Aquamarine
Member
It looks like some people can't take it when billion-dollar-companies get criticized and ridiculed.
Well, I think this about puts the final nail in the coffin of their strategy of not announcing games early. They need to scrap that idea completely and begin announcing games even if they are just names and titles. The public needs something to look forward to to show that making the investment in the Wii U is worth it.
pieatorium
Member
Is it really that different to the way you guys shouted "Apocalyptic Scenario!", "Sony should discontinue the Vita" and would boo everytime the vita didn't sell under 10k?
electroplankton
Banned
3DS picked up with Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Kart 7 and Monster Hunter 3G, along with the price cut. And two of those 3 games were announced after the 3DS launch.
The fact is that they do have games for these months: Game and Wario, Wii Fit U, Pikmin 3, The Wonderful 101; the problem is that they are not announcing any release date, which is far beyond any stupid strategy.
metalslimer
Member
The next Nintendo Direct and investors meeting should be fun.
NSMB has selling power but realistically how much can we expect 2D Mario to push a $300+ console? I think that's what it boils down to.
But as far as "casuals" Sony and Microsoft's competition is laughable. Even if it's not really true you'd be better off saying iOS killed it because it has plausibility.
Everything except W101 is a "launch" delay. That's why they don't have dates.
I don't think they're completely irrelevant though. Sony presumably doesn't lose money on Vita hardware but gets royalties for every game sold. Even though they won't sell much individually, their rising number is positive for Sony, as even little profits do add up.
Sure, Sony should most certainly prefer to sell just more of everything but the Wii strategy of selling hardware at a non loss making price and selling lots of shovelware (in Vita's case cheap otaku games) still does work to some extent for Vita.
I don't think it needs 'saving', it's just a disappointment. A sustainable disappointment, with some chance for minor growth.
thehypocrite
Member
The Wii U results don't surprise me at all.
It was obvious to me.
Any reason why the WiiU *won't* dominate Japan?
It was obvious to me.
Any reason why the WiiU *won't* dominate Japan?
electroplankton
Banned
Yes, royalties will help; but the situation is still worrying. It's one of the worse lineup ever for a platform in its second year in the market.
I think posts like these are still just a bit premature.
thehypocrite
Member
Aquamarine
Member
I'm looking forward to Nintendo's FY Q3 2012 earnings release later this month.
With it there might be a slew of new Wii U announcements.
The stock can't keep dropping...right?
Looking back at the previous media create sales during the years, it's really impressive that the 3DS has almost sold as much as PSP LTD in 2009. It took 4 years for vita to reach 11 million and 3DS is soon there in 2 years and probably 3 months!
But yeah I predicted that sales would drop this week
But yeah I predicted that sales would drop this week
michaelius
Banned
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Nintendo's arrogance has just long required being taken down a peg or two. Underpowered systems, region locking, no account tied downloads, refusal to bring their A-game from the start of a systems life due to penny pinching and moronic oversights (no 2nd stick on 3DS, tiniest battery possible in WiiU GamePad), slow software house expansion despite sitting on billions in profit, and more are all stuff as a consumer and avid follower of the industry I have been gradually becoming absolutely sick of.
I know every system has its exclusives, thats why I get round to buying each and every single one along the generations way. But whenever it comes to having to pick up a Nintendo system, theres always just these unforgivable flaws and arrogance on show that makes it a begrudging buy. Them getting an ass whoopin' in markets all around the world is going to be good if it forces them to change some of their shitty ways and thus good for consumers. And thats what I am, not an employee or a shareholder.