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Sales-Age Media Create Sales: Week 20, 2017 (May 15 - May 21)

goldage

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staggered releases is an outdated practice

i hope nintendo convinces every third party to do simultaneous ww releases from now on
 

Eolz

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staggered releases is an outdated practice

i hope nintendo convinces every third party to do simultaneous ww releases from now on

That's not their job. Just like it wasn't Sony's job to make Persona 5 come out faster in the west.
 

thestopsign

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Why would they anticipate an enhanced port from the start? I think you're overestimating the perception of the casual players here (I doubt a lot of people were following Capcom statements were they suggested an enhanced port later).

Anyway, I think being close to a million is a very optimistic scenario but we'll see! I'm not good at sales predictions unfortunately :|

It was originally suspected that XX would be a potential Switch/3DS title from the start. I can't proclaim to know what casual gamers follow, but there were a few obvious hints towards a Switch port from Capcom. Lastly, I think general fatigue of the series on a weaker 3DS weakened its potential especially coming out after the Switch was on the market.

I can't really claim to being great at sales predictions either, but I find it fun to speculate anyways. I tend to stick to lower ranges of potentials normally, but I think this is a good move by Capcom and should be a popular/successful title even as a port.
 

goldage

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mh xx for switch is an easy 1m seller

i dont see anything stopping it from putting up similar performances to mh3 for 3ds, it'll have a bit over a year to sell until mh5 comes out imo

mh xx performance was relatively weak due to 3ds being old and the amount of mh games already released on the console, switch version wont have such a problem
 

ZSaberLink

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Ōkami;238610610 said:
This is probably the dumbest these threads have gotten yet.

Yeh I admit it's a new level. I find it less annoying than the usual round-about conversations. Partly because it's so weird xD.
 

Ōkami

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All

01. Minecraft: Wii U Edition (Wii U) - 18,286
02. Splatoon (Wii U) - 65,029 >170.000
03. Dragon Quest X Online (Wii U) - 14,315
04. Super Mario Maker (Wii U) - 21,353 >90.000
05. Mario Kart 8 (Wii U) - 34,988 >50.000
06. Egokoro Kyoushitsu: Sketch (Wiii U-DL) - 2,974
07. Pokémon Scramble U (Wii U-DL) - 2,342
08. Super Mario World (Wii U-VC) - 1,865
09. MOTHER2 (Wii U-VC) - 4,542
10. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U (Wii U) - 31,325 >50.000
11. Famicom Remix (Wii U-DL) - 1,939
12. Hoshi no Kirby Super Deluxe (Wii U-VC) - 1,130
13. Super Mario 3D World (Wii U) - 20,321
14. Super Mario Bros. (Wii U-VC) - 679
15. Dr Kawashima’s Brain Training: How Old Is Your Brain? (Wii U-VC) - 4,297
16. Pikmin 3 (Wii U) - 13,642
17. MOTHER3 (Wii U-VC) - 640
18. Hoshi no Kirby Wii (Wii-DL) - 759
19. Super Mario 64 (Wii U-VC) - 650
20. New Super Mario Bros. U (Wii U) - 33,400

All

(Tobidase Doubutsu no Mori)*
01. Pokémon AR Searcher (3DS-DL) - 27,965
02. The Battle Cats POP! (3DS-DL) - 10,275 >400.000
03. Monster Hunter 4 (3DS) - 56,473 >300.000
04. Monster Hunter X (3DS) - 11,725 >300.000
05. Bike Rider DX (3DS-DL) - 16,439
06. Cube Creator 3D (3DS-DL) -8,996
07. Pokémon Battle Trozei (3DS-DL) - 6,252
08. Super Mario Bros. (3DS-VC) - 32,285
09. Puyo Puyo!! Mini Version (3DS-DL) - 12,807
10. Super Mario Bros. 3 (3DS-VC) - 11,020
11. Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS (3DS) - 47,551 >250.000
12. Pocket Monsters Pikachu Version (3DS-VC) - 1,429
13. Kirby Fighters Z (3DS-DL) - 5,221
14. Hako Boy! (3DS-DL) - 4,855
15. 10 Second Run (DSiWare) - 10,638
16. Denpa Ningen no RPG (3DS-DL) - 27,896
17. 3D Classics: Kirby’s Adventure (3DS-DL) - 13,255
18. Monster Hunter 4G (3DS) - 16,488
19. Bike Rider DX2 Galaxy (3DS-DL) - 5,475
20. Urban Trial: Freestyle (3DS-DL) - 3,869

This are some guesstimates based on shipment data, and some PR, the best we can hope for.

All the best selling games on 3DS should be above 70k at least, maybe even 100k.
 

KtSlime

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staggered releases is an outdated practice

i hope nintendo convinces every third party to do simultaneous ww releases from now on

If the game is not difficult to translate, maybe something like Smash or Arms, sure. However, I am against delaying a release in Japan just so that it can be translated into a bunch of other languages. Surely that is not fair. Nor is it practiced the other way around, American developers don't wait till the game is translated into Japanese to release, if they did how do you think people would react?
 

goldage

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If the game is not difficult to translate, maybe something like Smash or Arms, sure. However, I am against delaying a release in Japan just so that it can be translated into a bunch of other languages. Surely that is not fair. Nor is it practiced the other way around, American developers don't wait till the game is translated into Japanese to release, if they did how do you think people would react?
localisations don't have to delay a game if it's done/taken into account during development

pokemon has managed to release ww now, there's nothing stopping any other game from doing so

im not talking about multiple languages either, just from japanese to english should be sufficient

western devs don't have the same incentive since the industry is more western-centric now, unlike in previous gens when japanese development/market was just as relevant, it is japanese developers that need to target the west asap, not the other way around

i believe nintendo themselves have said they will try to release their games simultaneously going forward
 

watershed

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They are targeting 20 million per the report, even with supply limits due to competition they are still going to vastly outstrip ten million. The runs that Nintendo has scheduled will be wiggled/expanded and increased for capacity over what the previous runs would have been.

The question now is not "10 million", its where about between 15-20 million parts they will be able to source this year.

There's a bit of a misconception from that report. They have competition so they can't just straight up and easily pull 20 million parts, but they will still greatly increase the 10 mil base.

Yes I get that this report is saying Nintendo is targeting a higher number, I thought it was 18 million for the fy and that's a production number. But Nintendo's official guidance is still 10 mil sold/shipped? and this report raises the issue of securing parts and potential shipping issues. I think Nintendo's official guidance to investors is more credible than a rumor/inside source even if it is a conservative target.
 

Pranay

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Yes I get that this report is saying Nintendo is targeting a higher number, I thought it was 18 million for the fy and that's a production number. But Nintendo's official guidance is still 10 mil sold/shipped? and this report raises the issue of securing parts and potential shipping issues. I think Nintendo's official guidance to investors is more credible than a rumor/inside source even if it is a conservative target.

The way people are discussing that rumour here in this thread, makes me as if they are discussing facts from an official source.
 
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Ōkami;238613967 said:
This are some guesstimates based on shipment data, and some PR, the best we can hope for.

All the best selling games on 3DS should be above 70k at least, maybe even 100k.
Circle tweeted (years ago at this point) that Urban Trials did more than 100K in Japan. (It's why they commissioned a sequel).

The base is 100K+
 

Vinnk

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So are we anticipating a bigger or smaller shipment this week.

Anecdotally I have been seeing tons of TV ads for the Switch this week but no Switch units on shelves. When I saw the ads I figured they must having some units to sell if they are running so many. But it doesn't seem that they was any larger shipment, at least in my town.

I saw a used switch. It was 45,000yen, no box. Lunacy.

Get it together Nintendo.
 

Mbolibombo

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What is expected?

Another sales-gimped week of ~25k? or back to earlier "baseline" of 45-ish? For the Switch that is
 

Passose

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What is expected?

Another sales-gimped week of ~25k? or back to earlier "baseline" of 45-ish? For the Switch that is
with Mario Kart dropping to the 3rd this week, plus the Nintendo vs Apple thing, I guess it will be even worse than the last two weeks
 

Vinnk

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with Mario Kart dropping to the 3rd this week, plus the Nintendo vs Apple thing, I guess it will be even worse than the last two weeks

Lord...

It's gonna be another fun week for people with agendas.

For those who hate Nintendo:

Step 1: Laugh at the low sales
Step 2: After being pointed out that it's sold out, question if it's really "sold out". Use anecdote of seeing one available as proof. Amazon counts.
Step 3: Once Famitsu confirms the supply constraints, change scorn to "Artificial scarcity".
Step 4: Predict that if more supply was available they wouldn't sell because demand has declined.
Step 5: Conspiracy theory about how Nintendo keeps lowering the supply to make it seem more popular.
Step 6: Ignore sales altogether and speculate that Monster Hunter 5 will be on the PS4 exclusively.

For the Nintendo fans:

Step 1: State that it's sold out and you can't sell more than what exists.
Step 2: Say "Even Nintendo was surprised by how many they sold" as an explanation.
Step 3: Pretend the ridiculous supply is a strategy to hold more units for the big games coming up.
Step 4: Say "Factories can't magically make them overnight" (or 3 months..)
Step 5: Blame Apple
Step 6: Ignore supply all together and claim that Splatoon 2 will have an 80% attach rate.

For everyone else (both of you):

Step 1: Compare historical sales trends
Step 2: Graphs, lots of graphs.
Step 3: Wonder why people keep quoting https://www.merriam-webster.com/

So you know, the usual.
 

Mory Dunz

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Lord...

It's gonna be another fun week for people with agendas.

For those who hate Nintendo:

Step 1: Laugh at the low sales
Step 2: After being pointed out that it's sold out, question if it's really "sold out". Use anecdote of seeing one available as proof. Amazon counts.
Step 3: Once Famitsu confirms the supply constraints, change scorn to "Artificial scarcity".
Step 4: Predict that if more supply was available they wouldn't sell because demand has declined.
Step 5: Conspiracy theory about how Nintendo keeps lowering the supply to make it seem more popular.
Step 6: Ignore sales altogether and speculate that Monster Hunter 5 will be on the PS4 exclusively.

For the Nintendo fans:

Step 1: State that it's sold out and you can't sell more than what exists.
Step 2: Say "Even Nintendo was surprised by how many they sold" as an explanation.
Step 3: Pretend the ridiculous supply is a strategy to hold more units for the big games coming up.
Step 4: Say "Factories can't magically make them overnight" (or 3 months..)
Step 5: Blame Apple
Step 6: Ignore supply all together and claim that Splatoon 2 will have an 80% attach rate.

For everyone else (both of you):

Step 1: Compare historical sales trends
Step 2: Graphs, lots of graphs.
Step 3: Wonder why people keep quoting https://www.merriam-webster.com/

So you know, the usual.

MC had to overtake NPD threads somehow.

I for one welcome our shipping overlords.
 

watershed

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Even discussing numbers in fairly predictable fashion is more interesting than debating the meaning of "a couple."
 

hiska-kun

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My computer is dead so I won't be able to post any graph for a couple of weeks (that's when it should be repaired).
Hopefully ready for Arms launch.

It isn't a joke
 

Skullwaker

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Yeah, I don't really expect the supply issue to be resolved for a couple weeks, at least until ARMS hits. But if nothing is fixed by the launch of Splatoon 2, that would be very concerning. Nintendo needs big shipments surrounding that game to capitalize on the hype, since it will likely be their biggest game launch of the year in Japan (unless Pokemon is actually coming, but even then I would expect Pokemon to have the bigger FW, but Splatoon 2 to have the bigger LT sales).