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Media Create Sales: Week 21, 2014 (May 19 - May 25)

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Fularu

Banned
test_account said:
Yeah, but then you had interest in the games, otherwise you wouldnt have bought it(?) =) I bought Knack, Call of Duty Ghosts and Killzone Shadow Fall at launch. I havnt even inserted Knack and CoD Ghosts into my PS4 yet. But i still bought the PS4 because i was interested in the games. I played quite a lot of Killzone though.
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It was more of a "Oh I have those games, may as well get the system"

But as schuelma said this is off topic
 
S

sörine

Banned
gtj1092 said:
Lol the tears are delicious. To the masses they are the best versions but not all of us can be the elite discerning PC/Nintndo gamer. All of us duped by the hype just parting with $400 willy nilly.
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I guess I just don't see promise as such a negative thing. It's not worth getting so defensive over.
 
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Lumyst

Member
test_account said:
I cant see why many people would buy a PS4, or whatever gaming system it might be, early on if they have very little interest in the current offerings on the system. Makes little sense to me at least. Have anyone here done it for example? Why not just wait until the game(s) that they are interested it before they buy it instead? In that case, maybe even a price drop has happened. Even if someone buys into the hype, it means that there is excitement there to begin with, which is most likely related to the games. That excitement can of course go down after a while, but there is still a reason for that initial hype/excitement.
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Yikes, I actually bought the PS4 because I anticipated it'd be the defacto console for those "Japanophile"-ish games going forwards, looks like I should have believed that one moderator who said Japan was going to stick with the PS3 >_< Oh well, better take my pick from Evolve, Batman, Destiny, Battlefield, Fifa, Madden, Drive Club... I think Sony surely recognizes what the situation in Japan is like and will prepare some games for that market, but I recognize that right now their priority is to get Western gamers signed up for PS-Plus so they can make a profit off of their console business.

^ Correct, the PlayStation brand has been around for some time, so for many consumers interested in the top selling Western franchises, they can expect a continuation of those franchises on the PlayStation.
 
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mclem

Member
metalslimer said:
Yeah PS4 has a lineup that rivals Vita's 2012 omg how did this happen shit tier. Wii U's actually having games wins by default. It's still a bad lineup because there is nothing in between those breaks.

I mean come on if this list is accurate. And there is very little time for something big to come in the next couple months.
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One thing that strikes me as conspicuous by its absence: are there any first-party small-scale downloadable titles on the way for PS4? The equivalents of the NES Remix titles or Pushmo, approximately? I'm not really aware of any, and they'd be able to bolster the lineup quite nicely during the slower months.
 
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test_account

XP-39C²
Fularu said:
It was more of a "Oh I have those games, may as well get the system"

But as schuelma said this is off topic
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Sure, but i dont think you would have bought the system if you had next to no excitement for the games? I mean, i do kinda see what people mean with the "selling on hype" arguement, but i still feel that its worth pointing out that it is mainly the games that leads to this hype/excitement.

Yeah, its off topic when we're talking about the western sales indeed. Although i think that this arguement can be applied to any system, also in Japan.


Lumyst said:
Yikes, I actually bought the PS4 because I anticipated it'd be the defacto console for those "Japanophile"-ish games going forwards, looks like I should have believed that one moderator who said Japan was going to stick with the PS3 >_< Oh well, better take my pick from Evolve, Batman, Destiny, Battlefield, Fifa, Madden, Drive Club... I think Sony surely recognizes what the situation in Japan is like and will prepare some games for that market, but I recognize that right now their priority is to get Western gamers signed up for PS-Plus so they can make a profit off of their console business.

^ Correct, the PlayStation brand has been around for some time, so for many consumers interested in the top selling Western franchises, they can expect a continuation of those franchises on the PlayStation.
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Did you buy a PS4 at launch and put it in the closet waiting for the games to come? Thats the only situation i was referring to in that post =) I know that people can buy a gaming system early on and then be most excited about the upcoming games. But to have no interest in the current games? In that case, i dont see why people would buy a gaming system now instead of waiting for the interesting games to be released. People do what they want of course, i'm not judging, but i just dont see any reason to buy a system, put it in a closet and then wait for the games to come out.

EDIT: I guess maybe just the last paragraph was a reply to my post :)
 
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Fularu

Banned
test_account said:
Sure, but i dont think you would have bought the system if you had next to no excitement for the games? I mean, i do kinda see what people mean with the "selling on hype" arguement, but i still feel that its worth pointing out that it is mainly the games that leads to this hype/excitement.

Yeah, its off topic when we're talking about the western sales indeed. Although i think that this arguement can be applied to any system, also in Japan.
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I always buy every gaming system. The only one I'm missing right now is the Xbox One. Since I knew I would buy it down the road and I already had 3 games for it, I just picked one up.

Was I excited for it? Not really, it was a novelty. I have been a PC gamer for quite some time now (Between WoW raiding and D3 my console gaming time outside of the Ds/3DS has all but evaporated)
 
Y

Yamauchi

Banned
That spreadsheet was made by another user here, not sure who. He stopped updating the Wii U numbers some time ago, either because he was too busy or it became obvious the Dreamcast / Wii U streams would never cross.
 
F

Fularu

Banned
Yamauchi said:
That spreadsheet was made by another user here, not sure who. He stopped updating the Wii U numbers some time ago, either because he was too busy or it became obvious the Dreamcast / Wii U streams would never cross.
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That spreadsheet is up to date (Notice this week's number above Mario Kart 8, he's just some random numbers for the rest)
 
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L Thammy

Member
9thwonder said:
Lol, I wonder if Japan would be interested in the bone if that Dragons Dogma 2 rumour ends up being true.
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Is this a new rumour? To my understanding, Dragon's Dogma cratered outside Japan. It also locked up a large amount of Capcom's internal development resources, which might be part of why they became so big on outsourcing last gen. I'd be surprised if Capcom was eager to get into the same situation again.
 
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Yagharek

Member
Depressing numbers all round.

All systems desperately need to get some compelling releases and soon. If there isn't some sort of upturn in general a la the PSP MonHun bump of several years ago, then I don't see much of a future for console games in a recognisable form in Japan after this generation.
 
S

Soriku

Junior Member
9thwonder said:
Lol, I wonder if Japan would be interested in the bone if that Dragons Dogma 2 rumour ends up being true.
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If they couldn't be interested in the 360 they won't be for the Xbox One. Actually it's probably going to sell less than the 360.
 
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shinra-bansho

Member
Mpl90 said:
I don't seriously think SH like IF, CH, Nis would go to mobile, it's not worth it for their kind of games and the audience that buy them. Some efforts from the major SH would go to mobile, but certainly not all of them, due to the kind of games and the audience that buy them.
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One can replace the word mobile in your post with "Nintendo systems" quite easily. I'm not sure why one would consider the latter a more favorable environment. While the former is still a rapidly growing market.
 
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L~A

Member
Gibson tweets :

Visited local Bic Camera store 2hrs after open to see availability of MK8 today, plenty

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Bic Camera person said MK8 sales have not driven WiiU hardware and not expected to, will sell out today with new supplies tomorrow.
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L~A

Member
shinra-bansho said:
Does that imply software is selling but mainly to existing HW owners.
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Well, we've already seen people buying the console during Week 20, so it's probably just current owners buying it Day 1, the others will do it this week-end? I dunno, kinda hard (and silly) to draw any conclusion based on a few hours sales at one store, so I'll stop right there.

But anyway, not setting my expectations too high (even without Gibson's tweet, btw).
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Yeah, better wait for more general reports, or for impressions from other retailers, or for both.
 
1

1st Course

Member
Japan Retail Sales Fall at Record Pace After Tax Increase

Japan’s retail sales (JNRETMOM) dropped at the fastest pace in at least 14 years last month after the first consumption-tax increase since 1997 depressed consumer spending.

Sales in April declined 13.7 percent from the previous month, the trade ministry reported today, more than the median forecast of an 11.7 percent decline in a Bloomberg News survey of 11 economists.
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...-in-april-after-consumption-tax-increase.html
 
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CTLance

Member
Yikes.

Here I thought I was being pessimistic when I thought WiiU might double their sales for a week thanks to MK8.

Man, Japan is such a weird market. I guess we really need those mobile sales as well, or there won't be much to discuss in a few years.
 
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JoeM86

Member
And Water Blue, Purple, Brown, Amethyst, WhiteGold, Tourmaline, Moonstone etc.

They also registered the PokemonDeltaEmerald.com domain the same day they did PokemonOmegaRuby.com and PokemonAlphaSapphire.com
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
Fularu said:
It stopped selling once it went to 450$ here and the games went from a lot at launch to a trickle right now. So uh... yeah hype definitely played a huge factor in it. Hell, I bought into the god damn hype and I barely play my system.


Ergo the very definition of selling to gaming enthusiasts who were :

1 - Tired of the current generation
2 - Bought into Sony's hype machine (which was very very efficient for the western market)
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Your anecdotes mean jack shit. Sorry.

PS4 has an attach ratio of 3 and has had great software sales and has one of the most persistent online communities in games like BF and presumably FIFA and COD as well. People are buying it for the games whether that displeases you or not.

sörine;113817625 said:
Xbox One and Wii U launched with all those same franchises though. I'm not sure the games themselves were really PS4's biggest selling point.
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WiiU did not have the generation leap and evidently wasn't a very attractive console to consumers hence people sticking with PS360.

XB1 is getting outdone by the PS4. Its the more popular choice to play the biggest franchises on.

L~A said:
Gibson tweets :
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Thats not good.
 
1

1st Course

Member
Dengeki Sales: Week 21, 2014 (May 19 - May 25)

01./00. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014: Samurai Blue Challenge  (KONAMI) {2014.05.22} - 45.521 / NEW
02./00. [PS4] inFAMOUS Second Son (SCE) {2014.05.22} - 35.378 / NEW
03./03. [3DS] Yokai Watch (LEVEL-5) {2013.07.11} - 29.306 / 950.134 (-9%)
04./00. [PSV] To Love Ru Trouble: Darkness - Battle Ecstasy (Flue) {2014.05.22} - 23.447 / NEW
05./00. [3DS] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014: Samurai Blue Challenge  (KONAMI) {2014.05.22} - 19.267 / NEW
06./00. [PSV] Amnesia World (Idea Factory) {2014.05.22} - 14.400 / NEW
07./01. [PS3] The Idolmaster: One for All (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2014.05.15} - 11.112 / 92.549 (-86%)
08./02. [PSV] Genkai Totsuki Moero Chronicle (Compile Heart) {2014.05.15} - 8.676 / 44.129 (-76%)
09./00. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014: Samurai Blue Challenge  (KONAMI) {2014.05.22} - 8.355 / NEW
10./05. [3DS] Mario Party Island Tour (Nintendo) {2014.03.20} - 6.759 / 376.550 (-17%)
11./04. [3DS] Mario Golf World Tour (Nintendo) {2014.05.01} - 6.141 / 97.703 (-37%)
12./06. [PSV] Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2014.04.24} - 5.724 / 214.576 (-28%)
13./09. [WIU] Wii Party U (Nintendo) {2013.10.31} - 5.219 / 702.092 (+19%)
14./10. [WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} - 5.181 / 1.116.693 (+21%)
15./07. [3DS] Monster Hunter 4 (Capcom) {2013.09.14} - 4.517 / 3.381.239 (-22%)
16./16. [WIU] Wii Fit U (Nintendo) {2014.02.01} - 3.447 / 140.517 (+42%)
17./08. [3DS] Theatrhythm Final Fantasy: Curtain Call (Square Enix) {2014.04.24} - 3.382 / 120.806 (-38%)
18./11. [3DS] Pazudora Z (Gung Ho Online Entertainment) {2013.12.12} - 3.376 / 1.440.701 (-11%)
19./12. [3DS] Kirby Triple Deluxe star (Nintendo) {2014.01.11} - 3.347 / 571.120 (-7%)
20./18. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} - 2.853 / 2.250.167 (+20%)
21./13. [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters - Tokimeki Up! (Nintendo) {2014.04.17} - 2.659 / 39.657 (-24%)
22./14. [PS3] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zero (KONAMI) {2014.03.20} - 2.318 / 227.356 (-14%)
23./19. [PS3] Grand Theft Auto V (Rockstar Games) {2013.10.10} - 2.312 / 683.308 (-3%)
24./17. [3DS] Animal Crossing Tobidase (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} - 2.271 / 3.646.416 (-6%)
25./23. [3DS] Pokemon X (Pokemon) {2013.10.12} - 2.244 / 2.179.788 (+8%)
26./22. [WIU] Super Mario 3D World (Nintendo) {2013.11.21} - 2.200 / 525.203 (+1%)
27./28. [3DS] Harvest Moon: Linking the New World (Marvelous AQL) {2014.02.27} - 1.941 / 219.074 (+6%)
28./24. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2014 (KONAMI) {2014.03.20} - 1.929 / 69.830 (-2%)
29./33. [3DS] Pokemon Y (Pokemon) {2013.10.12} - 1.925 / 1.967.661 (+14%)
30./25. [3DS] Attack on Titan: The Last Wings of Mankind (Spike CHUNSOFT) {2013.12.05} - 1.853 / 284.749 (-5%)
31./20. [PS3] Sengoku Musou 4 (Tecmo Koei Games) {2014.03.20} - 1.688 / 229.514 (-29%)
32./35. [WIU] NES Remix 1 +2 (Nintendo) {2014.04.24} - 1.665 / 26.811 (+4%)
33./26. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters 2: Iru to Ruka no Fushigi na Fushigi na Kagi (Square Enix) {2014.02.06} - 1.641 / 772.381 (-14%)
34./32. [3DS] Fossil Fighters: Infinite Gear (Nintendo) {2014.02.27} - 1.629 / 167.104 (-5%)
35./27. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2014 (KONAMI) {2014.03.20} - 1.600 / 113.749 (-13%)
36./31. [3DS] Hero bank (SEGA) {2014.03.20} - 1.553 / 47.997 (-11%)
37./43. [3DS] Tomodachi Collection: New Life (Nintendo) {2013.04.18} - 1.394 / 1.679.025 (+15%)
38./30. [WIU] JUST DANCE (R) Wii U (Nintendo) {2014.04.03} - 1.376 / 44.089 (-22%)
39./50. [PSV] Teraria (Spike CHUNSOFT) {2014.02.06} - 1.324 / 48.499 (+19%)
40./46. [3DS] Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 1-2-3 - Naruhodo Selection (Capcom) {2014.04.17} - 1.306 / 37.477 (+13%)
41./42. [PSV] J Stars Victory Versus (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2014.03.19} - 1.194 / 148.987 (-3%)
42./60. [PS3] Battlefield 4 (Electronic Arts) {2013.11.07} - 1.159 / 237.832
43./38. [PS4] Battlefield 4 (Electronic Arts) {2014.02.22} - 1.153 / 78.687 (-17%)
44./37. [PS3] J Stars Victory Versus (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2014.03.19} - 1.147 / 178.595 (-20%)
45./41. [PS4] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Realm Reborn (Square Enix) {2014.04.14} - 1.124 / 40.231 (-9%)
46./48. [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 (Nintendo) {2012.7.28} - 1.094 / 2.176.687 (-2%)
47./21. [PSV] God of War Collection (SCE) {2014.05.15} - 1.076 / 3.359 (-53%)
48./47. [3DS] Crayon Shin-Chan: Arashi o Yobu Kasukabe Eiga Stars! (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2014.04.10} - 1.044 / 29.291 (-8%)
49./51. [PSV] Sengoku Musou 4 (Tecmo Koei Games) {2014.03.20} - 1.035 / 85.069
50./39. [3DS] Aikatsu! Both of My Princess (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2013.11.21} - 1.024 / 224.185 (-18%)

TOP 50

3DS 23
Vita 8
PS3 8
Wii U 6
PS4 3
PSP 2

TOP3/PLATFORM

[3DS] Yokai Watch (LEVEL-5) {2013.07.11} - 29.306 / 950.134 (-9%)
[3DS] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014: Samurai Blue Challenge (KONAMI) {2014.05.22} - 19.267 / NEW
[3DS] Mario Party Island Tour (Nintendo) {2014.03.20} - 6.759 / 376.550 (-17%)

[PSV] To Love Ru Trouble: Darkness - Battle Ecstasy (Flue) {2014.05.22} - 23.447 / NEW
[PSV] Amnesia World (Idea Factory) {2014.05.22} - 14.400 / NEW
[PSV] Genkai Totsuki Moero Chronicle (Compile Heart) {2014.05.15} - 8.676 / 44.129 (-76%)

[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2014: Samurai Blue Challenge (KONAMI) {2014.05.22} - 45.521 / NEW
[PS3] The Idolmaster: One for All (NAMCO BANDAI Games) {2014.05.15} - 11.112 / 92.549 (-86%)
[PS3] Metal Gear Solid V Ground Zero (KONAMI) {2014.03.20} - 2.318 / 227.356 (-14%)

[PS4] inFAMOUS Second Son (SCE) {2014.05.22} - 35.378 / NEW
[PS4] Battlefield 4 (Electronic Arts) {2014.02.22} - 1.153 / 78.687 (-17%)
[PS4] Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Realm Reborn (Square Enix) {2014.04.14} - 1.124 / 40.231 (-9%)

[WIU] Wii Party U (Nintendo) {2013.10.31} - 5.219 / 702.092 (+19%)
[WIU] New Super Mario Bros. U (Nintendo) {2012.12.08} - 5.181 / 1.116.693 (+21%)
[WIU] Wii Fit U (Nintendo) {2014.02.01} - 3.447 / 140.517 (+42%)

[360] Minecraft Xbox 360 Edition (Microsoft ) {2013.06.06} - 114 / 14.626
[360] Gears of War: Judgment (Microsoft ) {2013.03.21} - 90 / 26.602
[360] TitanFall (Electronic Arts) {2014.04.10} - 71 / 11.927

ALL SOFTWARE

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| Model | This Week | Week (%) |  FY 2014  | FY (%)  |
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| 3DS   | 134.851   | 33.30%   | 1.604.390 | 39.90%  |
| PS3   | 98.521    | 24.30%   | 934.237   | 23.30%  |
| Vita  | 77.237    | 19.10%   | 828.675   | 20.60%  |
| PS4   | 41.777    | 10.30%   | 172.419   | 4.30%   |
| Wii U | 27.765    | 6.90%    | 257.182   | 6.40%   |
| PSP   | 23.870    | 5.90%    | 186.898   | 4.70%   |
| X360  | 1.116     | 0.30%    | 34.028    | 0.80%   |
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| Total | 405.137   | 100.00%  | 4.017.829 | 100.00% |
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HARDWARE

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| Model | This Week | Week (%) | FY 2014 | FY (%)  |
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| 3DS   | 25.456    | 41.30%   | 234.509 | 40.30%  |
| Vita  | 12.539    | 20.30%   | 138.045 | 23.70%  |
| Wii U | 8.365     | 13.60%   | 49.977  | 8.60%   |
| PS4   | 7.156     | 11.60%   | 85.013  | 14.60%  |
| PS3   | 6.618     | 10.70%   | 57.053  | 9.80%   |
| PSP   | 1.433     | 2.30%    | 15.098  | 2.60%   |
| X360  | 109       | 0.20%    | 1.602   | 0.30%   |
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| Total | 61.676    | 100.00%  | 581.297 | 100.00% |
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Dengeki Sales: Week 20, 2014 (May 12 - May 18)
 
R

RiggyRob

Member
L~A said:
Gibson tweets :
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It might just be me, but I was expecting more Mario Kart 8 stock even if it's just one store, doesn't seem to be that much to me.

Bic Camera person said MK8 sales have not driven WiiU hardware and not expected to, will sell out today with new supplies tomorrow.
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Why would they expect it to not drive hardware? Or do they mean they expect all of the current Wii U owners will buy it and it'll sell out?
 
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Fularu

Banned
L~A said:
Come on, that's one store, and 2h after opening.

By the way, did we get any shipment data for MK8? Can't wait for the sellthrough data this week-end. I'm sure Nintendo overshipped the hell outta the game.
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Dude it's Psycho_Mantis, when it's anecdotal for the PS4, it means jack shit, when it's anecdotal in one single store for the WiiU, it's prety bad, you should get used to it :p
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
L~A said:
Come on, that's one store, and 2h after opening.

By the way, did we get any shipment data for MK8? Can't wait for the sellthrough data this week-end. I'm sure Nintendo overshipped the hell outta the game.
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Okay, I didn't say it was representative of MK8/WiiU sales as a whole, just that the info from the store about WiiU not getting a notable bump was not good. I didn't know it was 2 hours after opening though.
 
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Exile20

Member
Psycho_Mantis said:
Your anecdotes mean jack shit. Sorry.

PS4 has an attach ratio of 3 and has had great software sales and has one of the most persistent online communities in games like BF and presumably FIFA and COD as well. People are buying it for the games whether that displeases you or not.



WiiU did not have the generation leap and evidently wasn't a very attractive console to consumers hence people sticking with PS360.

XB1 is getting outdone by the PS4. Its the more popular choice to play the biggest franchises on.



Thats not good.
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Wow at your post man. Displeases him? Seriously? It seems you love the ps4 but come on.
 
R

Rolf NB

Member
zeromcd73 said:
Thank you.

I'm predicting PS4 will fall behind Dreamcast in week 33.
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PS4 launched in Feb. It didn't even have one holiday season yet. Once it does, you and noone else will make Dreamcast comparisons anymore, and you will no longer remember you ever did.
 
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L~A

Member
Psycho_Mantis said:
Okay, I didn't say it was representative of MK8/WiiU sales as a whole, just that the info from the store about WiiU not getting a notable bump was not good. I didn't know it was 2 hours after opening though.
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Ah, I see... my bad then. Gibson says it's 2h after opening in the first tweet, though the way he phrases everything can be confusing (like the second one... talking about new shipment for games... even though it looks like he's taking about the Wii U itself).

...

We really need shinra-bansho (?) for the launch day pics in stores!
 
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