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I see. Any reason why they removed all the weapon types from MH3 and replaced them with something else? Water battles removed can be technical limitations.
I think we should stop talking about monster hunter
Amen to that. I think I'll try to stay out of Monster Hunter talk from now on until next Switch game is announced.
When was the last time MH sold 4-5 million worldwide?
It's very weird because games like bomberman, puyo puyo tetris, Seiken Densetsu Collection sold incredibly well, but still, a lot of games missed switch.
wouldn't call Seiken incredible.
I did think it would be announced for the west as eshop exclusive this e3...but it's an effload of text to translate so I guess I'm not surprised.
not sure I follow, is Matt an insider?
Laplasakos
Member
A post of a member is official word?
DarkLordMalik
Member
Sammy Samusu
Member
Good luck selling that MHW you speak of.
Yep, he's maybe the only member I completely trust with these type of things nowadays.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Thats his speculation iirc.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Nvm. Not worth it.
You just need to take a look at the post history of the poster. Anyways, removed since I don't want to derail the thread.
MH Tri had brand new assets so it had way way less monsters and less weapons than Portable 3rd. That is my main worry about World (lack of content).
Anyway, have you guys discussed what game Nintendo is planning for the holidays in Japan? Surely Xenoblade 2 isn't their only releases for November/December.
These kind of posts add nothing to the discussion... Can we behave like adults?
SporeCrawler
Member
maybe kirby is december in japan?
Nintendo is going for ww releases.
that trailer said 2018
Have we discussed that Fire Emblem Warriors already have a release date in Japan? Maybe I overlooked it but it's coming out end of September, the 28th. The japanese eShop claims the game is japanese language only so I guess earlier Japan release? I was hoping we moved on from releasing games in Japan first and then west but then again I guess this game is Koei Tecmo rather than Nintendo.
Laplasakos
Member
I agree, although the post he was referring too also doesn't add anything to the discussion especially the way he puts it.
Graphics Horse
Member
Does Rabbids have a date for Japan?
Maybe that could swap with Warriors
Maybe that could swap with Warriors
I'm being generous. And Even that would be a significant step down for the franchise.
So did ReMake and Zero, and those are pure survival horror. Those sales tell me that RE has a solid fan base that Capcom can rely on for solid numbers, but is not enough to get the 5M+ they want.
Yeah.
He was the first one to claim that it's coming Xbox One.
And do people really believe Capcom will abandon Switch as a platform?
I don't think they would even bother porting MHXX over if they were going to do that.
I agree with those citing WW releases, but I do expect Kirby or Yoshi or both to be H1 2018 games. Kirby usually has a short window reveal to release for mainline games and Yoshi is being demoed on the show floor today at Treehouse and has a release year attached so it's not a January 2013 Direct situation.
To me, MHXX looks like a rush job. There's no reason why it shouldn't had been day and date with the Switch version.
They seem awfully ill prepared to support it for the foreseeable future at the least.
I don't disagree but it's better to ignore it then.
It's 2018 afaik.
Probably not, but I think the localisations may then be in threat unless they offload to Nintendo to do them. (Who knows if Nintendo will be willing?)
Since MHW will be their western focused MH series, there's less incentive for them to spend the money to localise the portable MH.
Edit: Any leaks for this week's data from the blog?
Yeah chances of West getting portable MH games are pretty low now unless Nintendo steps in (or if MH World flops).
I think this is the only part everyone here can agree about when it comes to Monster Hunter at the moment.
It sold a bit less than a mil in the west iirc and a bit more than 3m in Japan. Which amounts to over 4m total, which is what you asked?
Gotdatmoney
Member
Just under a million I'm pretty sure for Generations in the West.
Re: Monster Hunter stuff
1-The rumors appear to be off in that World does not appear to be a radical departure to the extent of alienating Japanese audiences. With that in mind, I think World could possibly sell more than Tri- 1.25M? I think anything more than that will be a really tall order with the lack of local coop
2-Related to point 1, and again, I know its still early, but I don't see any reason for 2 separate series. What I can see happening is a portable port to switch coming down the line that sells really well in Japan. World is on Framework and if there is one thing I have faith in, its Capcom finding a way to downport. I see no reason to go crazy on another line in the series when World appears to more an evolution then revolution.
3- Again, related to point 2, I still think evidence suggests MH will continue on Switch in some capacity. The fact that World was started before Switch was even a thing and the fact that a XX port is coming tells me they're catching up on the platform. But we'll see.
4-I still think XX Switch will be localized, but its either going to happen like in 2 months or in a year, well after World releases. And I'd bet its Nintendo that brings it over.
1-The rumors appear to be off in that World does not appear to be a radical departure to the extent of alienating Japanese audiences. With that in mind, I think World could possibly sell more than Tri- 1.25M? I think anything more than that will be a really tall order with the lack of local coop
2-Related to point 1, and again, I know its still early, but I don't see any reason for 2 separate series. What I can see happening is a portable port to switch coming down the line that sells really well in Japan. World is on Framework and if there is one thing I have faith in, its Capcom finding a way to downport. I see no reason to go crazy on another line in the series when World appears to more an evolution then revolution.
3- Again, related to point 2, I still think evidence suggests MH will continue on Switch in some capacity. The fact that World was started before Switch was even a thing and the fact that a XX port is coming tells me they're catching up on the platform. But we'll see.
4-I still think XX Switch will be localized, but its either going to happen like in 2 months or in a year, well after World releases. And I'd bet its Nintendo that brings it over.
Oh, I think the issue is that I was looking at retail sales and forgot about digital in Japan. 3:1 makes sense. Thanks.
I think with something like MHW though, Capcom is probably imagining something more like 1:4. They definitely want a big seller, and more importantly they want the mindshare outside of Japan. Capcom definitely doesn't seem content just being a successful domestic Japanese company like Level5. With their RE and SF brands on a decline, they desperately want to convert MH into an international brand on that same level.
I think with something like MHW though, Capcom is probably imagining something more like 1:4. They definitely want a big seller, and more importantly they want the mindshare outside of Japan. Capcom definitely doesn't seem content just being a successful domestic Japanese company like Level5. With their RE and SF brands on a decline, they desperately want to convert MH into an international brand on that same level.
MH4, 4U and Generations all did a weirdly consistent 4.1 million.
I also suspect they want to be able to monetize the franchise in a way Nintendo systems are not conducive to.
CaviarMeths
Member
It's still launch year and the system has been very supply constrained. I think pretty much any notable game going back to March is going to be a de facto "holiday" game.
Moor-Angol
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Sammy Samusu
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DarkLordMalik
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Ok so now that Monster Hunter has been established as a multipaltform franchise even by Nintendo fans, what's next that should go multiplatform.
Shin Megami Tensei is already multiplatform but I hope Capcom considers Ace Attorney for other platforms as well. Exclusives don't make sense anymore. The more platforms, the better.
Shin Megami Tensei is already multiplatform but I hope Capcom considers Ace Attorney for other platforms as well. Exclusives don't make sense anymore. The more platforms, the better.
test_account
XP-39C²
What makes this different from "traditional MH"? Going by the info thread, it sounds essentially like MH5.
Oh, does it simply has less content? I got the impression that the weapons were different.
I think SMT and Persona make sense to go multiplatform, at least Nintendo/Playstation multiplat with probably PC as well, since both games have similarities and a comparable origin, so releasing on both PS4 and Switch/3DS and maybe PC would probably expand both significantly.