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Sales-Age Media Create Sales: Week 24, 2016 (Jun 13 - Jun 19)

Mpl90

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When does it launch?
October 8th.

I know that Comgnet itself states how YW3 preorders are lower than Busters, but it seems too strange to see the next main entry in the franchise facing a possible big drop in sales despite recent spin-offs selling very well (Yokai Sangokushi performed great, and it released just a few months ago, not ages ago). I wonder if it's possible that sales won't be SO down compared to Yokai Watch 2, despite the current preorders situation, due to customers getting the game more directly in spot without preorders compared to the past entries...
 
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October, still plenty of time. But it's not normal for a Monster Hunter game to have pre-orders that low.
Stories is kind of aiming at a different/younger audience than typical Monster Hunter games, so it wouldn't be a surprise if it just followed a different trajectory entirely with regards to pre-order levels/speed.

Of course, it could also just fail to interest younger children at all and bomb completely.
 

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So PS4 vs. Wii U LTD

2.931.366 vs. 3.189.686

Difference - 258.32

Assuming PS4 holds this baseline average of 20k until August when Berseria releases, then I expect the difference to slash in half. It is completely possible for the PS4 to surpass Wii U LTD sales in September when Persona 5 and FFXV will launch for it.

Time to release Ace Attorney on Steam Capcom
I'll actually buy a 3ds again just to play this game
That won't be a bad idea as Japanese visual novels are finding their place on Steam. I still don't understand why they kept it as 3DS exclusive. Should've been multiplatform including PS4/Vita/PC.
 
Wait MHS is looking bad? Eff I had pegged for an easy million seller...
Yes, it is. Commented this on last week's thread. MH Stories pre-orders started some weeks ago, and it seems it didn't move any units aside from the first day the game was open for reservations. It's not in the thirty games available for pre-orders on HMV, neither on Rakuten nor Joshin, and Capcom didn't even expect one million for this game.

No way YW3 will launch below Busters (...right?!) even though Comgnet numbers are lower.
I don't think so. However, it will be very close to it. Yo-Kai Watch time has totally passed, and it's not going to return.The important thing is that Hino keeps his promise on delivering the updates at the right times and them to be very packed in order to give the game some good legs.
 

Chris1964

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I don't think so. However, it will be very close to it. Yo-Kai Watch time has totally passed, and it's not going to return.The important thing is that Hino keeps his promise on delivering the updates at the right times and them to be very packed in order to give the game some good legs.
YW3 having similar first week to Busters means half first week sales of YW2. I don't know if the collapse will be so sharp when Yo-Kai Sangokushi shows there is still power left at YW.
 

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What happened to KanColle Vita in the end? What's the latest LTD for it? Did it sell the first shipment?
 
This is fair, of course I was thinking more long-term and I feel so far (when these titles have come and gone) has still been in the short term and the overall number of titles they've axed or failed to support is still low. But you do win the point in that people are still buying so you are probably right in that the title getting chopped are those with little interest in them.
Related to this discussion in general, Square Enix has trademarked Cosmos Rings, so I wonder if this will be one of their first attempts at a more expensive mobile game: http://gematsu.com/2016/06/square-enix-trademarks-cosmos-rings
 

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What happened to KanColle Vita in the end? What's the latest LTD for it? Did it sell the first shipment?
15./10. [PSV] Kan Colle Kai # <SLG> (Kadokawa Games) {2016.02.18} (¥5.800) - 5.646 / 177.546 (-41%)

Last Media Create sales we got from it, will likely be slightly higher due to 20 - leaving tumble.

First shipment was 175,573 by my calculation (80.17% sellthrough according to Media Create), so it got a second shipment at least.
 

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15./10. [PSV] Kan Colle Kai # <SLG> (Kadokawa Games) {2016.02.18} (¥5.800) - 5.646 / 177.546 (-41%)

Last Media Create sales we got from it, will likely be slightly higher due to 20 - leaving tumble.

First shipment was 175,573 by my calculation (80.17% sellthrough according to Media Create), so it got a second shipment at least.
It's a shame since it was a game shaping up to be a 300k+ seller in Japan if not for all the delays and poor word of mouth.
 

LiveFromKyoto

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I literally cannot understand why Xbox One still has shelf space in this country. Whatever MS is paying for it cannot make up for the fact that it generates zero revenue.
 

perorist

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It is? Bummer, that's not what I wanted to hear. Based on?
Impressions from 2ch (here's a matome), sitting at 3/5 stars on PSN, and some amazon reviews (already 42% off).

I'm sure some people enjoyed it but the main complaints are that the scenario is lacking (especially all the routes outside of the true route), and the main character is incredibly dislikable and kind of psychopathic.
 

Takao

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ios port sold for $1 will save phoenix wright

the world doesn't need 10 ace attorney games

speaking of capcom negativity, what's the worst sellin Resident Evil game in Japan? Gun Survivor? Gaiden? Darkside Chronicles? Asking because Capcom's first current gen home console exclusive (not paid for by a first party) could beat it.
 

Chris1964

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Well, yeah. I referred more to not hitting the million mark on first week. I'm quite sure that 900k will be hard to get.
Every previous YW has exceeded my expectations. I'm expecting the collapse but I don't see already from YW3 to begin so quickly. Since there won't be a third version this time legs will be a little better and LTD shouldn't end so much behind YW2.

That the franchise has found its roof and downfall has started is given.
 

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I figured Monster Hunter Stories would be a bigger Gaist Crusher.
Capcom cannot seem to launch a family brand.
 

Ōkami

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ios port sold for $1 will save phoenix wright

the world doesn't need 10 ace attorney games

speaking of capcom negativity, what's the worst sellin Resident Evil game in Japan? Gun Survivor? Gaiden? Darkside Chronicles? Asking because Capcom's first current gen home console exclusive (not paid for by a first party) could beat it.
From the data we have it's Revelations on 360.

There's no data for Gaiden or Code Veronica on GameCube so it could be either really. Survivor was released during the peak of RE's popularity, it actually sold more than any RE game on Nintendo.

You're talking about Resident EVII.?
 

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Ace Attorney 6 will fail to sell its first shipment.
Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3 sales increased this week according to both trackers, meaning that probably price drops started already.

All 3DS software is underperforming this year, Taiko it's this week victim. I know that it will have legs, but obviously in a slower pace than past entries.

Pre-orders for Yo-kai Watch 3 are very ugly (lower than Busters). But the big bombas of the year will probably be Puzzle & Dragons X and even Monster Hunter Stories pre-orders look very bad.

Yeah, a lot of negativism but it's reality.
As a positive thing, Harvest Moon 3 is looking solid, a good opening should be expected, but probably will be more frontloaded than past entries, so LTD might be lower at the end.
Japan welcoming their Mobile overlords.
 

Chris1964

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speaking of capcom negativity, what's the worst sellin Resident Evil game in Japan? Gun Survivor? Gaiden? Darkside Chronicles? Asking because Capcom's first current gen home console exclusive (not paid for by a first party) could beat it.
They removed "Resident Evil" for west but Japan still has it named as Bio Hazard.

Worst selling original RE that isn't a port is this. Umbrella will beat it.

[GMB] Resident Evil Gaiden |GameBoy Color| <ADV> (Capcom) {2002.03.29} (¥4.200) - 5.343 / 20.850
 

Takao

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&#332;kami;208037622 said:
From the data we have it's Revelations on 360.

There's no data for Gaiden or Code Veronica on GameCube so it could be either really. Survivor was released during the peak of RE's popularity, it actually sold more than any RE game on Nintendo.

You're talking about Resident EVII.?
Umbrella Corps, actually.

Famitsu has Gaiden at 20k. Excluding multi-plats (Revelations 2 XB1 is probably the worst selling general RE release in JP) and late ports, that's the basement. Second worst is Gun Survivor 4 at 40k.
 

Ōkami

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Umbrella Corps, actually.

Famitsu has Gaiden at 20k. Excluding multi-plats (Revelations 2 XB1 is probably the worst selling general RE release in JP) and late ports, that's the basement. Second worst is Gun Survivor 4 at 40k.
Umbrella Crops is F2P though, it's selling in the same way something like Lost Reavers on Wii U is selling.

btw Chris, where did you get data for Gaiden? It didn't chart the week it came out and it wasn't part of Famitsu's Top 300 of 2002.
 

Chris1964

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Gaiden first week is from 2001 FY and LTD from update the week 3DS RE: Revelations came out

[PS4] Umbrella Corps <STG> (Capcom) {2016.06.23} (¥5.990)
[PS4] Umbrella Corps (&#949;) _PS Store Download Version_ |DL| <STG> (Capcom) {2016.06.23} (¥3.694)
 

DarkLordMalik

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I don't expect Umbrella Corps to do that much worse since it is technically the only 'new' third person RE game that is going to be released before REVII. I mean I don't expect it to set a new record but not end up being the lowest selling either.
 

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I don't expect Umbrella corps to do well at all, nor even OK. It's not a Mercenaries spin-off with well-known characters, and it seems to have less marketing behind it than the bad Operation Raccoon City...
 

Vena

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I don't expect Umbrella corps to do well at all, nor even OK. It's not a Mercenaries spin-off with well-known characters, and it seems to have less marketing behind it than the bad Operation Raccoon City...
The reviews and word of mouth impressions won't do it any favors.
 

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Japan welcoming their Mobile overlords.
the market is not only 3DS, FYI


it's clear 3DS can't do miracles, market already saturated from last year, I really am surprised that nintendo is waiting 2017 for a new handheld; the only thing that would revitalize a little the 3DS is a price cut, let's see if it happens on next Q3 as leaked from NoA announcement.

on the other side some titles are selling "well" or at least not as bad as it was thought, for example Konami's Powapuro, even DQH2 has not been deeply affected by the "Musou syndrome", but of course a single platform (cause PS3 is already out of the market and Vita keeps going on with Minecraft and niche games) can't save the market

hope NX will add some new features without being too much "Wii", considering how Sony and m$ are going PC-oriented, the only "new" thing can be brought by Nintendo.
As usual.
 

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market already saturated from last year, I really am surprised that nintendo is waiting 2017 for a new handheld;
I believe that even 2017 looks not really likely for the next handhelds...

They will release NX in March 2017, now the only possible chance for be a 3DS successor is if is both handhelds+home, no way it's not a home considering the 800K Wii U shipments in the intere FY.

Could be possible if they launch a new handhelds in the holidays 2017, definitively possible... but i think starting 2018 seem more likely, imo.
 

Vena

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I believe that even 2017 looks not really likely for the next handhelds...

They will release NX in March 2017, now the only possible chance for be a 3DS successor is if is both handhelds+home, no way it's not a home considering the 800K Wii U shipments in the intere FY.

Could be possible if they launch a new handhelds in the holidays 2017, definitively possible... but i think starting 2018 seem more likely, imo.
I have it pegged for mid to holiday 2017 if it's not part of the March launch.
 

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October, still plenty of time. But it's not normal for a Monster Hunter game to have pre-orders that low.
I wouldn't really think of it as a Monster Hunter game so much as a brand new RPG for the kid audience in a Monster Hunter setting. How the market approaches the game is going to be very different. Kid and family audiences tend not to bother too much with preorders, and I don't think diehard fans of the series are that interested in this take of it. There's also a year long anime for it starting later this year, so Capcom is probably hoping that they have a good product that can build word of mouth over a period of time as the anime airs, even if it doesn't explode right at launch.
 

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How are Sony becoming PC-oriented?
system upgrades, they also said a couple of days ago "we launch Neo and we hope users will stop moving to PC"
forcing people to hw upgrades it's the best way to assimilate the "PC mentality"
really wanna see reactions when games for PS4 and Neo will be realesed and performances will be different

is not that a "PC oriented" situation?

m$ is doing much worst cause considering all games will be released also on PC I dont see any reason to own a XBO actually and in the future
but this is a Japan sales thread so talking about m$ consoles in not necessary
 

Moor-Angol

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I believe that even 2017 looks not really likely for the next handhelds...

They will release NX in March 2017, now the only possible chance for be a 3DS successor is if is both handhelds+home, no way it's not a home considering the 800K Wii U shipments in the intere FY.

Could be possible if they launch a new handhelds in the holidays 2017, definitively possible... but i think starting 2018 seem more likely, imo.

in this case price drop or... good luck ninty

the new colours have been already released and sales didnt grew up so much, a Q3 price drop would guarantee a big push especially for winter holidays

Didnt remember that NX is supposed to be released at the end of 2016 FY, they expect to still selling with Splatoon ?
 

Vena

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in this case price drop or... good luck ninty

the new colours have been already released and sales didnt grew up so much, a Q3 price drop would guarantee a big push especially for winter holidays

Didnt remember that NX is supposed to be released at the end of 2016 FY, they expect to still selling with Splatoon ?
I think a price drop is all but guaranteed before the holidays even hit. The 2DS dropping in price (and showing up in a limited run bundle) is the first sign of it and the leak of it later on for NA all but guarantees for the world, in my opinion, as it indicates an attempt to move the last bits of hardware they can and to start clearing channels of all old models and, eventually, whatever is left the *New* line.
 

LiveFromKyoto

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system upgrades, they also said a couple of days ago "we launch Neo and we hope users will stop moving to PC"
forcing people to hw upgrades it's the best way to assimilate the "PC mentality"
really wanna see reactions when games for PS4 and Neo will be realesed and performances will be different

is not that a "PC oriented" situation?

m$ is doing much worst cause considering all games will be released also on PC I dont see any reason to own a XBO actually and in the future
but this is a Japan sales thread so talking about m$ consoles in not necessary
I don't think it's that they're oriented towards PC so much as oriented towards the sales figures Apple gets out of incremental hardware updates without having to start from zero install base for software every time.

The number of people that actually have a more powerful system than a PS4 is like 2-5% of the PC user base.
 

Vena

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The number of people that actually have a more powerful system than a PS4 is like 2-5% of the PC user base.
Do you mean the gaming PC community? In which case this would be, I am almost certain, patently false. Or just the "PC community" in general which is effectively the vast majority of the civilized human world where within meaningful statistics would be impossible to catalogue and many of said people neither care for nor are interested in gaming in any capacity.

Just looking at steam's hardware breakdown surveys, a lot of people have far more capable hardware than a laptop-CPU Jaguar with a glorified 7870.
 

Chris1964

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The reviews and word of mouth impressions won't do it any favors.
Umbrella Corps heads for a very low first week for RE since at every retailer preorders are non existant, word of mouth isn't what will keep it back.