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[Dark Cloud]

To be fair, the term is used with other games as well. LEGS only becomes punny with ARMS.

why not? It's not a sales thread when people don't discuss about games "legs"

Eh. I'm not complaining, but I'm sure for other games people say "well lets see how long this last or how long this game will sell well".

Again I was just joking with it.

 

[LordOcidax]

Arms outsells Tekken....did not see that coming. Props to Nintendo its a super fun fighter.

+SFV

 

[Charamiwa]

It's going back to 20k next week isn't it?

 

[mclem]

Zelda and Mario went up!

I wonder if Zelda can maintain >10k for a while if Switch supplies can manage >35k.

 

[FreedomFighter]

Was really hoping for at least 50k Switch units. ARMs would've been a little higher too if they could've provided that many units. Oh, well... it's a shame Nintendo can't get more units out due to part shortages.

Still, great showing for ARMS, debuting over 100k. I hope it can leg it out to 500k at least. Would be an amazing showing for a fighting game in Japan (

Spoiler

that isn't Smash

).

 

[Mpl90]

I wonder if Zelda can maintain >10k for a while if Switch supplies can manage >35k.

My main curiosity (that only Famitsu and Dengeki can satisfy) is to see if and how other Switch games reacted to the higher hardware supply.

 

[heringer]

Wasn't Switch stock capping at ~25k per week? Did Nintendo ship more for Arms?

 

[Usobuko]

My Ys and NieR sales !

Great for ARMS too.

Arms and Splatoon are what I want from Nintendo going forward with new IPs.

 

[Kureransu]

TP is at 600k in Japan I believe.

is that Wii+GC? If so the BotW is well over 600k for WiiU+Switch.

 

[Skittzo0413]

TP is at 600k in Japan I believe.

Just on Wii or does that count Gamecube? And the remaster? BotW is at 633k combined just physical.

It's going back to 20k next week isn't it?

That's the big question, yeah.

 

[marmoka]

Great for ARMS. I didn't expect this game would make Switch sell 10000 more this week.

I have interest in this game, seems fun and useful for home workout.

 

[Graphics Horse]

Wasn't Switch stock capping at ~25k per week? Did Nintendo ship more for Arms?

I would have thought it will drop a little next week yes, but who knows really.

 

[Litri]

Ok, ARMS beat my expectations. Not bad.

 

[encephalon]

06./06. [PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2017.05.25} (¥6.800) - 4.697 / 47.964 (-12%)

These seem like good numbers for a year old port of a Ys game. I wonder if Sen III can pull off 150k.

 

[NotLiquid]

Well done ARMS. Now let's see those arms- I mean, uh, legs. Wouldn't be surprised if it's close to 400-500k worldwide when accounting for US and the rest of Europe.

I can see it get a boost throughout the summer and when Splatoon 2 comes out. People are gonna wanna buy additional games for their Switches.

 

[random25]

Good job ARMS!

Zelda keeps chugging along. Nice.

 

[13ruce]

Just 74 (just 74!) more and Arms would have had a better opening week than Tekken 7 and Street Fighter V combined.

Pretty sure digital sales would pass that so we might aswell say it did

Zelda Switch at half a million damn!

 

[JonnyDBrit]

Zelda still having a strong association with Switch hardware itself is nice. 500k passed on the Switch version, now for the long march to 600k!

 

[Oregano]

It's sad that component shortages are holding Switch back so much.

Nintendo can't catch a break.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

Does Media Create count bundles or could the Arms sales be even higher? I assume the bundle would sell out.

 

[Chauzu]

It's sad that component shortages are holding Switch back so much.

Nintendo can't catch a break.

Maybe they should make a Switch TV to avoid NAND issues.

 

[Pranay]

Pretty sure digital sales would pass that so we might aswell say it did

Zelda Switch at half a million damn!

Digital sales don't exist for tekken and sf5?

 

[Power Shot]

"Titanic" debate from clueless posters as usual maybe.

To be fair to my wording, is there any better example of clueless behavior than the Titanic?

 

[FreedomFighter]

So Zelda can leg it out to a much higher LTD if Nintendo could just ship enough units.

 

[Chauzu]

Digital sales don't exist for tekken and sf5?

I think people are saying this because:

1) for digital only Switch users, buying digitally from Japan is cheapest and you get the game early. A lot of people did this for ARMS, including me.

2) ARMS on Amazon included a discount code for Splatoon 2 if you bought there and it charted pretty high.

 

[Aters]

These seem like good numbers for a year old port of a Ys game. I wonder if Sen III can pull off 150k.

Indeed it's a good number. Ys VIII has better WoM than any other Falcom releases in recent years, which shows in the sales.

 

[Eolz]

Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition opened at more than 40,000 (MC)

07. / 00. [3DS] Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition (Capcom) {2011.02.26} - 44.649 / NEW

Both Street Fighter IV and Tekken 6 had 100k+ openings, though, between PS3 and 360 (MC)

02. [PS3] Street Fighter IV (Capcom) 86,000 / NEW
05. [360] Street Fighter IV (Capcom) 38,000 / NEW

03./00. [PS3] Tekken 6 (Namco Bandai) - 103,105 / NEW
11./00. [360] Tekken 6 (Namco Bandai) - > 26,559

Remembered it higher for some reason, must have been mixing it up with LTD or something.
Thanks!

 

[L~A]

Does Media Create count bundles or could the Arms sales be even higher? I assume the bundle would sell out.

Media Create usually count games from bundles, but it doesn't matter in that case because ARMS didn't get a bundle (not an official one, at least).

 

[Earthpainting]

I expected about half of that for Arms if I'm completely honest. It's a quirky new fighting game IP on a system with a small install-base, and supply constraints ensure it will stay small for the foreseeable future. It seems like a pretty great debut.

 

[Pinky]

Nice debut for ARMS! Great to see BotW(NSW) pass 500,000. Nice little bump for Switch hardware as well. Still hoping Nintendo can get production ramped up sooner than later. People are thirsty for Switch.

 

[Hero]

Wow, great debut for ARMS.

Love the new twist on fighting games, the characters, etc. Just hope the content comes at a steady pace.

 

[casiopao]

ARMS is already a success taking into account the situation of the Fighting genre in Japan. But if ARMS has LEGS is going to be insane.

Nah. Nintendo put huge expectation towards ARMS considering the devs pedigree, huge marketing push and being Switch big title. If it dont have any leg, it will be a failure no question.

 

[faridmon]

This is amazing!

 

[LordOcidax]

And Splatoon 2 next month and then MHXX.... And some people still doubting..

 

[LordOcidax]

Nah. Nintendo put huge expectation towards ARMS considering the devs pedigree, huge marketing push and being Switch big title. If it dont have any leg, it will be a failure no question.

What number did you think they need to be considered as a success? 1 Million WW?

 

[tolkir]

When was the last fighting game opening at 100k+?
SFIV on 3DS? Pokken was below I think.

Smash WII U probably.

 

[king zell]

ARMS needs LEGS now

 

[DeuceGamer]

It being a Nintendo game + the long free DLC strategy means ARMS could have pretty good legs as well. Hopefully they can keep the characters, stages, and maybe even new modes(like a story mode) coming.

Also the fact that the Switch is still supply constrained means that some people that are likely wanting Arms weren't able to purchase it. Hopefully, they can at least keep the Switch sales to a minimum of 35,000 through the summer, though it's not looking like they will be able too.

 

[Aaronrules380]

Nier is relatively unknown, so it's still spreading through word of mouth in Japan. Most Japanese gamers seem to buy games they're interested in day 1, which is easier when it's a new entry in a series you already know and love. I doubt another Nier would ever have nearly as good legs, even if it ends up selling as much overall.

My thoughts as well

 

[darkstar0155]

Nah. Nintendo put huge expectation towards ARMS considering the devs pedigree, huge marketing push and being Switch big title. If it dont have any leg, it will be a failure no question.

Wha? I would be shocked if Nintendo doesn't consider 100K launch week in japan as a success. With that number, I would think its on its way to be a million seller WW. For a brand new fighting game, based on motion, etc etc. I would think they would be happy

 

[Lelou]

Great numbers for Arms, let's see if the LEGS will keep over the next weeks.

 

[L~A]

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild on Switch is over 500k already.

Wii U + Switch combined = 637 750 units.
Units left to 1m: 362 250 units
Weeks left before the end of year: 28 weeks
Needs: 12 937 units/week.

Looking pretty good so far. Right now, Switch version sales are directly tied to the amount of Switch units shipped to retailers.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

So I have a question really unrelated to our normal discussions but w/e. Does anyone thibk the decline of Microsoft and specifically the 360 in Japan has had a detrimental effect on some of the core oriented titles in Japan? The 360 only did a bit over 1 million but when you look at the units sold for SF4 for example they represent a pretty significant chunk of sales. A lot of those niche bullet hells found a market on the system as well. Any thoughts?

 

[cw_sasuke]

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild on Switch is over 500k already.

Wii U + Switch combined = 637 750 units.
Units left to 1m: 362 250 units
Weeks left before the end of year: 28 weeks
Needs: 12 937 units/week.

Looking pretty good so far. Right now, Switch version sales are directly tied to the amount of Switch units shipped to retailers.

While in line with my earliest expectations its still great to see a new mainline 3D Zelda on its way to +1m sales again.

 

[noshten]

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild on Switch is over 500k already.

Wii U + Switch combined = 637 750 units.
Units left to 1m: 362 250 units
Weeks left before the end of year: 28 weeks
Needs: 12 937 units/week.

Looking pretty good so far. Right now, Switch version sales are directly tied to the amount of Switch units shipped to retailers.

Usually leggy titles get a boost around Obon and December - so I don't see why Zelda wouldn't also get a boost from holiday periods. There is also DLC planned later this month and in December to keep the game in people's minds. Coupled with the expectations of more stock once Splatoon 2 launches I just don't see how it's possible for legs to suddenly disappear - especially when there isn't a major SP Nintendo game releasing until Super Mario Odyssey.
The only thing I feel Nintendo needs to do is give Zelda some bundles or discounts - especially if they want to enable more people to potentially purchase the season pass.

 

[Celine]

When was the last fighting game opening at 100k+?
SFIV on 3DS? Pokken was below I think.

Smash 4, otherwise Persona Arena (unless I missed something).

 

[casiopao]

What number did you think they need to be considered as a success? 1 Million WW?

1 million WW would be failure as even pokken is able to beat that number quite easily on Wii U without any free updates.

The least they should get for ARMS to be a success for me is 3 million WW. Their investment towards this new IP does not sounds like they are looking for some modest number at all.

Wha? I would be shocked if Nintendo doesn't consider 100K launch week in japan as a success. With that number, I would think its on its way to be a million seller WW. For a brand new fighting game, based on motion, etc etc. I would think they would be happy

100k FW in Japan is a great first step for sure. But i am talking about long term goals. If it only end up like 1 mil WW LTD, that is a guaranted failure for me and Nintendo i believe.

 

[hiska-kun]

PS4 vs PS3

------------------------------------------------------------- 
|    |   PlayStation 3   |   PlayStation 4   |  Difference  | 
|    |    (2006/11/11)   |    (2014/02/22)   |              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   PS4 - PS3  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
| 172|   32.130|4.741.902|   21.346|4.807.438|        65.536|
| 173|   27.763|4.769.665|   19.141|4.826.579|        56.914|
| 174|   28.824|4.798.489|   24.046|4.850.625|        52.136|
| 175|   26.481|4.824.970|         |         |              |
| 176|   50.164|4.875.134|         |         |              |
| 177|   50.448|4.925.582|         |         |              |
| 178|   38.877|4.964.459|         |         |              |
| 179|   28.973|4.993.432|         |         |              |
| 180|   25.590|5.019.022|         |         |              |
| 181|   25.629|5.044.651|         |         |              |
| 182|   32.874|5.077.525|         |         |              |
| 183|   26.185|5.103.710|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

Switch vs 3DS

------------------------------------------------------------- 
|    |    Nintendo 3DS   |   Nintendo Switch |  Difference  | 
|    |    (2011/02/26)   |    (2017/03/03)   |              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   NSW - 3DS  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|  14|   24.283|1.037.542|   23.524|  926.659|      -110.883|
|  15|   27.357|1.064.899|   27.291|  953.950|      -110.949|
|  16|   24.649|1.089.548|   37.709|  991.659|       -97.899|
|  17|   40.649|1.130.197|         |         |              |
|  18|   27.905|1.158.102|         |         |              |
|  19|   30.233|1.188.335|         |         |              |
|  20|   22.943|1.211.278|         |         |              |
|  21|   46.637|1.257.915|         |         |              |
|  22|   31.826|1.289.741|         |         |              |
|  23|   16.415|1.306.156|         |         |              |
|  24|    4.132|1.310.288|         |         |              |
|  25|  196.077|1.506.365|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

Mario Kart 8 DX vs Mario Kart 8

------------------------------------------------------------- 
|    |   Mario Kart 8    |  Mario Kart 8 DX  |  Difference  | 
|    | [WIU] (2014/05/29)| [NSW] (2017/04/28)|              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   | MK8DX – MK8  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|  1 |  325.892|  325.892|  284.823|  284.823|       -41.069|
|  2 |   73.051|  398.943|   90.652|  375.475|       -23.468|
|  3 |   42.261|  441.205|   36.440|  411.915|       -29.290| 
|  4 |   28.112|  469.316|   28.781|  440.696|       -28.620| 
|  5 |   23.520|  492.837|   26.993|  467.689|       -25.148|  
|  6 |   19.386|  512.223|   20.984|  488.673|       -23.550|  
|  7 |   15.143|  527.366|   16.596|  505.270|       -22.096|  
|  8 |   14.992|  542.358|   16.822|  522.091|       -20.267|  
|  9 |   18.129|  560.487|         |         |              | 
| 10 |   18.067|  578.554|         |         |              | 
| 11 |   20.860|  599.414|         |         |              | 
| 12 |   28.221|  627.635|         |         |              | 
| 13 |   12.075|  639.710|         |         |              | 
| 14 |   11.148|  650.858|         |         |              |
| 15 |    8.221|  659.079|         |         |              |
| 16 |    6.839|  665.918|         |         |              |
| 17 |    6.396|  672.313|         |         |              |
| 18 |    5.936|  678.250|         |         |              |
| 19 |    4.517|  682.767|         |         |              |
| 20 |    3.996|  686.763|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

 

[noshten]

snipperclips is above 100K with digital sales

Minecraft is probably well above 100K at this point as well. Hasn't dropped from the top 3 in the eShop chart since it's release. I believe Arms is actually the first game to knock it off it's perch and that was expected considering it's the biggest launch since MK8D coupled with the digital discounts for Splatoon 2.

Switch vs 3DS

------------------------------------------------------------- 
|    |    Nintendo 3DS   |   Nintendo Switch |  Difference  | 
|    |    (2011/02/26)   |    (2017/03/03)   |              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   NSW - 3DS  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|  14|   24.283|1.037.542|   23.524|  926.659|      -110.883|
|  15|   27.357|1.064.899|   27.291|  953.950|      -110.949|
|  16|   24.649|1.089.548|   37.709|  991.659|       -97.899|
|  17|   40.649|1.130.197|         |         |              |
|  18|   27.905|1.158.102|         |         |              |
|  19|   30.233|1.188.335|         |         |              |
|  20|   22.943|1.211.278|         |         |              |
|  21|   46.637|1.257.915|         |         |              |
|  22|   31.826|1.289.741|         |         |              |
|  23|   16.415|1.306.156|         |         |              |
|  24|    4.132|1.310.288|         |         |              |
|  25|  196.077|1.506.365|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

hiska charts are back!
Switch should pass 3DS during Splatoon 2 launch - it's another matter if Nintendo will be able to maintain the needed level of supply after that.

 

[darkstar0155]

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild on Switch is over 500k already.

Wii U + Switch combined = 637 750 units.
Units left to 1m: 362 250 units
Weeks left before the end of year: 28 weeks
Needs: 12 937 units/week.

Looking pretty good so far. Right now, Switch version sales are directly tied to the amount of Switch units shipped to retailers.

It will get there after the first holiday season with no problems imo.