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Media Create Sales: Week 25, 2015 (Jun 15 - Jun 21)

Vena

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Damn. Another supply constrained Nintendo title.

Retailers still hurting from P&D: Mario Bomba edition

Nintendo showing Nintendo how franchise care and growth is done. Now hopefully Nintendo learns from Nintendo's actions, and Nintendo doesn't repeat Nintendo's past mistakes with other franchises!
 

fredrancour

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Damn. Another supply constrained Nintendo title.

Retailers still hurting from P&D: Mario Bomba edition

well if nintendo is ever desperate to boost retailer ordering they can start accepting returns i guess. what portion of video game companies do that? Is refusing them an industry standard or a nintendo thing?
 

Ōkami

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After how well P4G did Atlus should've made a proper game to capitalize on the fanbase.

They can't expect a dancing spin off that nobody asked for to do too well.
 

Busaiku

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Ōkami;169884446 said:
After how well P4G did Atlus should've made a proper game to capitalize on the fanbase.

They can't expect a dancing spin off that nobody asked for to do too well.
Persona Q did extremely well.
 

Busaiku

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Best selling game in the Etrian Odyssey family and almost as good as the mainline Persona games, I'm surprised they didn't announce Persona Q 2 already.
I'm not.
Another game with the same characters would not do well.
I don't think we'll see another Persona Q game for a while, if at all (depending on the mood of the franchise going forward).
 

vinnygambini

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well if nintendo is ever desperate to boost retailer ordering they can start accepting returns i guess. what portion of video game companies do that? Is refusing them an industry standard or a nintendo thing?

It's a Japan thing.

It's a much different ecosystem in the West.
 

FluxWaveZ

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Ōkami;169884446 said:
After how well P4G did Atlus should've made a proper game to capitalize on the fanbase.

They can't expect a dancing spin off that nobody asked for to do too well.

Yeah, when are they going to announce the next mainline Persona game.

Ōkami;169885454 said:
I mean a proper game on Vita.

They went with P4D because it was conceptually similar to P4A and they were pretty happy with that, so they went with this project. Maybe things would be different if they knew going in that Dingo would mess up whatever they messed up, forcing Atlus to work on most of the project themselves.

And we don't even know how much it sold yet, unless we have shipment numbers. (Though, I don't know what 50-60%usually entails as a first-day indicator for a game like it; it might mean that it won't do too well during its first week for all I know.)
 

random25

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Ōkami;169884446 said:
After how well P4G did Atlus should've made a proper game to capitalize on the fanbase.

They can't expect a dancing spin off that nobody asked for to do too well.

You can only do so much with Persona 4. What other P4 spin-offs that they haven't tried yet that would sell as much as the main line games? Unless they'll do a direct sequel to P4, which would be highly unlikely.

Persona Q did extremely well.

Having a very solid fanbase for EO really helped the game. And also being another RPG may have enticed some more veteran Persona players to try it out.

Best selling game in the Etrian Odyssey family and almost as good as the mainline Persona games, I'm surprised they didn't announce Persona Q 2 already.

It would be tough to make PQ2 with another P3/P4 cross-over story-wise, and P1 and P2 are somewhat unpopular compared to the two that will make it commercially successful as the first one.
 

Xbro

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It would be tough to make PQ2 with another P3/P4 cross-over story-wise, and P1 and P2 are somewhat unpopular compared to the two that will make it commercially successful as the first one.

Isn't the first persona game still the best selling entry in the series? And correct me if I'm wrong, but also the best selling entry in the megaten series?
 

FluxWaveZ

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Isn't the first persona game still the best selling entry in the series? And correct me if I'm wrong, but also the best selling entry in the megaten series?

Yes, if we're talking about the initial release of each game without counting re-releases, updates and spin-offs. That doesn't change the fact that it's no longer relevant, though.
 

random25

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Isn't the first persona game still the best selling entry in the series? And correct me if I'm wrong, but also the best selling entry in the megaten series?

It is, but they aren't revisited as much as the last 2 Persona games. Even Atlus CEO said that the turning point for the Persona franchise being a mainstream success is when Persona 3 became a hit.
 

Vena

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Kicking themselves for what exactly?

50-60% is good sellthrough for first day. I'm not sure what you're implying.

Percents are a worthless metric without knowing the shipment. 50% of 2, is 1. Its still 50%, though!
 

Vena

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Right, so again; what are they kicking themselves for? I don't understand what he's on about.

Probably expecting the shipment to not be high to begin with, so 50% of that would be a poor showing in theory.
 

Mpl90

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Nobunaga's Ambition 201X launched last month on Android and iOS, the game has aready sold 400,000+ units.

Nobunyaga Guru Guru dungeon is another smartphone game from Koei which has sold 585,000.

Dead or Alive 5 has seen strong sales at retail but ultimately the free 2 play version is the winner here with Digital revenue now playing a vital part for Koei.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1040392

I just checked Nobunaga's Ambition 201x on Google Play and App Annie: on GP, it's between 100,000 and 500,000. Unfortunately, I didn't follow it since launch, in order to see its performance and when it reached the 100,000 mark. Going by its ranking in the Download Chart, it probably went over 100,000 downloads not that long ago.

Also, sorry Zhuge, but it doesn't seem to be performing that well in terms of Grossing. On iOS, it peaked at 172nd and it hovers around 200th, with some ups and downs. On Google Play, instead, it peaked at 109th, and it's been around 150th-200th for a while, and now it's under 200th. In terms of chart ranking, it's surely doing better on Android than on iOS, but this still seems like a poor performance, not even in top 100 once.

EDIT: I'll check Nobunyaga Guru Guru later.
 

Mpl90

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First Day Sell-Through {2015.06.25}

[3DS] Fire Emblem Fates: Black Kingdom / White Kingdom <SLG> (Nintendo) (¥5.076) - 70%

[PSV] Persona 4: Dancing All Night # <ACT> (Atlus) (¥7.538) - 50-60%

[PS4] [PS3] Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward # <RPG> (Square Enix) (¥4.104) - 30%

[PSV] [PS3] [PS4] Chaos;Child # <ADV> (5pb.) (¥7.344) (¥8.424) - 40-50%

[PS4] [PSV] Hotline Miami: Collected Edition <Hotline Miami Hotline Miami 2: Wrong Number> <ACT> (Spike Chunsoft) (¥3.996) - 20%

[PS3] [PS4] Ride <RCE> (Intergrow) (¥6.264) (¥7.344) - 50-60%

Funassyi Land

[XB1] Azito ? Tatsunoko Legends <SLG> (Hamster) (¥5.940)
[3DS] Kaitou Joker: Toki o Koeru Kaitou to Ushinawareta Houseki <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) (¥5.627)

Holy fuck @ Fire Emblem. No estimates about first day shipment at all?
Pretty good first day sell-through for Persona 4:DAN as well.
FFXIV, in the context Chris gave, is a bit yikes. Still, I suppose it's the PS3 SKU the one more overshipped.
 

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Mario Maker will rebuild him, better, stronger, faster.

We have the technology.

 

BriBri

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The Battle Cats has been downloaded 100,000 on the 3DS eShop. It's still not #20 on the 3DS only all-time charts (Soliti Horse is 20, Denpa RPG 3 is 19, Tomodachi Collection is 18 then Gunman Story and what has been posted here).
 

BishopLamont

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The hardware/software ratio is kinda disproportionate for PS4. People are buying it, they're just not really buying any games for it. Both Wii U and Vita software is outselling PS4 games, despite lower hardware sales for both. PS3 stealing a lot of sales away from PS4 with cross gen games, I guess?
upcoming games and digital probably has something to do with it
 

Obliterator

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Those Splatoon legs really are incredible. Japan loves this game. Congrats to Nintendo looks like they have a strong new IP.

Also as always, happy to see how well Witcher 3 is doing in Japan for a WRPG.
 

Pennywise83

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SQEX is undershipping DQX and overshipping FFXIV... Weird.

The Battle Cats has been downloaded 100,000 on the 3DS eShop. It's still not #20 on the 3DS only all-time charts (Soliti Horse is 20, Denpa RPG 3 is 19, Tomodachi Collection is 18 then Gunman Story and what has been posted here).

Cool. eShop is a lively environment for small games like those.
 

hiska-kun

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Media Create Sell-Through

02./00. [3DS] Return to PoPoLoCrois: A Story of Seasons Fairytale <RPG> (Marvelous) {2015.06.18} (¥6.458) - 46.491 / NEW <58,99%> [Units Shipped => 78.812]

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I expect a big drop for next week.
 

Mpl90

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The Battle Cats has been downloaded 100,000 on the 3DS eShop. It's still not #20 on the 3DS only all-time charts (Soliti Horse is 20, Denpa RPG 3 is 19, Tomodachi Collection is 18 then Gunman Story and what has been posted here).

I was indeed wondering when it'd have hit that mark, given how it dominates eShop charts since its release. And it's a port of a f2p title years later the original release...and not f2p anymore. But what's the offcial source? I can't find it on your blog.
 

BriBri

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I was indeed wondering when it'd have hit that mark, given how it dominates eShop charts since its release. And it's a port of a f2p title years later the original release...and not f2p anymore. But what's the offcial source? I can't find it on your blog.
I always have issues posting from mobile. It's from the gamernejp Twitter account.

The reason it sells even though it's f2p is a) the smart device version is kinda restrictive if you wanna play continuously and not pay. Everything is free in the 3DS version. And b) it's good. Really good.
 

Bruno MB

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Fire Emblem: Awakening shipped 300.000 units during its first week.

It wouldn't be logical for such an anticipated game like Fire Emblem Fates: Black Kingdom / White Kingdom to have a first day shipment smaller, so it is a safe to say that it has already cleared 200.000 units. And this figure doesn't include the Special Edition SKU although I suppose it will have a very limited print run.

Code:
20/04/90 [NFC] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light - ? / 329.000
14/03/92 [NFC] Fire Emblem Gaiden - ? / 325.000
21/01/94 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - ? / 776.000
14/05/96 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Holy War Story - 228.578 / 498.000
28/08/99 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - 30.104 / 158.695
29/03/02 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sealed Sword - 126.267 / 345.574
25/04/03 [GBA] Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword - 109.429 / 265.286
07/10/04 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones - 146.026 / 246.719
20/04/05 [GCN] Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 100.357 / 156.413
22/02/07 [WII] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - 73.337 / 171.924
07/08/08 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon - 147.704 / 252.309
15/07/10 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow - 147.045 / 250.592
19/04/12 [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening - 262.399 / 469.485
26/06/15 [3DS] Fire Emblem Fates: Black Kingdom / White Kingdom -
 

ZhugeEX

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I just checked Nobunaga's Ambition 201x on Google Play and App Annie: on GP, it's between 100,000 and 500,000. Unfortunately, I didn't follow it since launch, in order to see its performance and when it reached the 100,000 mark. Going by its ranking in the Download Chart, it probably went over 100,000 downloads not that long ago.

Also, sorry Zhuge, but it doesn't seem to be performing that well in terms of Grossing. On iOS, it peaked at 172nd and it hovers around 200th, with some ups and downs. On Google Play, instead, it peaked at 109th, and it's been around 150th-200th for a while, and now it's under 200th. In terms of chart ranking, it's surely doing better on Android than on iOS, but this still seems like a poor performance, not even in top 100 once.

EDIT: I'll check Nobunyaga Guru Guru later.

All the figures I post are directly from Koei so I can assure you it's accurate.

But yes, Koei don't have a super hit smartphone game or even anything near that yet. However the games are performing well for what they are.
 

ZhugeEX

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Kind of a separate question, but any idea why Koei-Tecmo is bringing those 2 old DS games to 3DS? It didn't seem like they were adding all that much either from what I could tell.

Not sure really but this isnt rare to see. Koei said they wanted to bring back old games either through reboot or re-release.
 

Mpl90

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All the figures I post are directly from Koei so I can assure you it's accurate.

But yes, Koei don't have a super hit smartphone game or even anything near that yet. However the games are performing well for what they are.

Sorry, it probably seemed like I was saying your figures weren't accurate, but far from it. Actually, I was trying to see what could be the iOS/Android download ratio for Nobunaga, going by the numbers you gave.

Reading my post again, it wasn't clear. Again, sorry if my post made you think that.
 

Aostia

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Woha, FE If will never become the best selling FE in Japan:
21/01/94 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - ? / 776.000
 

random25

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Woha, FE If will never become the best selling FE in Japan:
21/01/94 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - ? / 776.000

It's possible. We're talking about 2 versions here, and because they have been proven to be totally different aside from the first 6 chapters, it won't be surprising to see two version helping each other to sell more (assuming the discounted DLC counts as another copy sold).
 

casiopao

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Woha, FE If will never become the best selling FE in Japan:
21/01/94 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - ? / 776.000

I guess so. But I believe it will be muchhhhh profitable for sure with 2 scenario+third route and many many DLC+ amiibo. Don't forget it actually being released on western market too.
 

Aostia

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It's possible. We're talking about 2 versions here, and because they have been proven to be totally different aside from the first 6 chapters, it won't be surprising to see two version helping each other to sell more (assuming the discounted DLC counts as another copy sold).

Well, maybe adding the DLC as a +1 purchase...? Otherwise I really can't see that happening. Awakaning was a HUGE success, and sol 469k...

I guess so. But I believe it will be muchhhhh profitable for sure with 2 scenario+third route and many many DLC+ amiibo. Don't forget it actually being released on western market too.

yeah, I know about Western market, and I'm pretty sure that N is really happy with FE "renaissance". I simply didn't remember that episode being able to sell SO MUCH :p
 

Chris1964

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Fire Emblem: Awakening shipped 300.000 units during its first week.

It wouldn't be logical for such an anticipated game like Fire Emblem Fates: Black Kingdom / White Kingdom to have a first day shipment smaller, so it is a safe to say that it has already cleared 200.000 units. And this figure doesn't include the Special Edition SKU although I suppose it will have a very limited print run.

Code:
20/04/90 [NFC] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light - ? / 329.000
14/03/92 [NFC] Fire Emblem Gaiden - ? / 325.000
21/01/94 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - ? / 776.000
14/05/96 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Holy War Story - 228.578 / 429.763 
28/08/99 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 - 30.104 / 158.695
29/03/02 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sealed Sword - 126.267 / 345.574
25/04/03 [GBA] Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword - 109.429 / 265.286
07/10/04 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones - 146.026 / 246.719
20/04/05 [GCN] Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance - 100.357 / 156.413
22/02/07 [WII] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - 73.337 / 171.924
07/08/08 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon - 147.704 / 252.309
15/07/10 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow - 147.045 / 250.592
19/04/12 [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening - 262.399 / 469.485
26/06/15 [3DS] Fire Emblem Fates: Black Kingdom / White Kingdom -

Holy War Story is at 498k.
 

random25

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Well, maybe adding the DLC as a +1 purchase...? Otherwise I really can't see that happening. Awakaning was a HUGE success, and sol 469k...

Well it was huge because if you look at the numbers, FE has been stale sales-wise since the GBA days. FE:A is currently at the top 3 best selling FE all-time in Japan. That's a huge leap considering the other two were from the old SNES days.
 

ZhugeEX

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Sorry, it probably seemed like I was saying your figures weren't accurate, but far from it. Actually, I was trying to see what could be the iOS/Android download ratio for Nobunaga, going by the numbers you gave.

Reading my post again, it wasn't clear. Again, sorry if my post made you think that.

No worries mate.

:)