Media Create Sales: Week 27, 2013 (Jul 01 - Jul 07)

Rock_Man

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Prediction time!

95k Pikmin 3
23k WiiU

My reasoning for the low WiiU numbers is I think Pikmin will fail to attract new users and it will sell mostly to Nintendo fans who already got the system. W101 will end up moving more consoles imo.
Impressive.
 

NotLiquid

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Soul Sacrifice seemingly boosted Vita to 63.581 in its week of release, so really, a family friendly big Nintendo IP should be pushing WiiU to that zone (although Vita did also have a price drop before).

I dunno what people are going to find impressive? Maybe 40k? 30k would be on the low end of not impressive and still hugely worrying.
I think this is one of the harder weeks to predict "anything" for Wii U. For one we don't know just exactly how much brand power Pikmin has and the game didn't come out until Saturday, so I think some sales might bleed into next week. As you said as well, Wii U didn't get a price drop and that's usually the cause for some more effective surges in sales.

That said, the Wii U is getting a new bundle, has NSLU in the backseat to help give a push and has an extensive marketing behind Pikmin 3. The efforts to push it and the console in the last weeks have been impressive to say the least.

I suspect Wii U will hit the million milestone at the very least. 32k shouldn't be too hard to hit if all the stars are aligned.

Isnt the boxed version of new super luigi being released soon too?
It was released four days ago in Japan. Got some televised marketing as well.
 

BishopLamont

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Soul Sacrifice seemingly boosted Vita to 63.581 in its week of release, so really, a family friendly big Nintendo IP should be pushing WiiU to that zone (although Vita did also have a price drop before).

I dunno what people are going to find impressive? Maybe 40k? 30k would be on the low end of not impressive and still hugely worrying.
That was around the price drop and Vita is a handheld, if SS did so much for Vita then Toukiden wouldn't be outselling it and look how much hardware Toukiden pushed. 60k isn't realistic, you're the only one who even thinks this.
 

Pie and Beans

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That was around the price drop and Vita is a handheld, if SS did so much for Vita then Toukiden wouldn't be outselling it and look how much hardware Toukiden pushed. 60k isn't realistic, you're the only one who even thinks this.
Reading is fundamental. I position 40k as an acceptable bump.
 

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So 40k is acceptable but 30k is hugely worrying? lol
Yes, thats how I feel. This is the WiiU's only chance for a big Nintendo IP pushed bump before December really. I think it has to make its console at least sell on the way from 40-50k for it to be seen as something remotely desirable.

I mean you can keep laughing it up of course. Pikmin 3 releasing for 2 days may skew shit into next week though, dunno.
 

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Yes, thats how I feel. This is the WiiU's only chance for a big Nintendo IP pushed bump before December really. I think it has to make its console at least sell on the way from 40-50k for it to be seen as something remotely desirable.

I mean you can keep laughing it up of course. Pikmin 3 releasing for 2 days may skew shit into next week though, dunno.
This week Wii U hardware should be compared with Persona 4: The Golden week, not with SS that came with a price cut.
 

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Have all of those happy individuals bought a Vita last week?
Indeed they did. I sent them all a thank you note personally.
Also: Did anyone else buy a Vita?
43 people that regret the purchase because they're awful people, and one short-sighted dude that wanted a PSP.

Your Wii U expectations seem rather high.
Yeah, they're a little out of whack because I didn't take the '2 days' thing into account. I'll stand by 'em anyway!
 
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Yes, thats how I feel. This is the WiiU's only chance for a big Nintendo IP pushed bump before December really. I think it has to make its console at least sell on the way from 40-50k for it to be seen as something remotely desirable.

I mean you can keep laughing it up of course. Pikmin 3 releasing for 2 days may skew shit into next week though, dunno.
Pikmin isn't a big nintendo IP, that's the problem. The only reason it's being positioned as one is because there is nothing else.
 

BishopLamont

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Yes, thats how I feel. This is the WiiU's only chance for a big Nintendo IP pushed bump before December really. I think it has to make its console at least sell on the way from 40-50k for it to be seen as something remotely desirable.

I mean you can keep laughing it up of course. Pikmin 3 releasing for 2 days may skew shit into next week though, dunno.
How much hardware Pikmin 3 pushes doesn't really matter since hardware sales will slide down again after, its the end of the year when all the heavy hitters are out is when the hardware sales matter, that is the time to try to create a sustained bump that will last long.
 

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[GCN] Pikmin (Nintendo) {2001.10.26} - 101.299 / NEW

GCN Hardware - 25.225 (previous week 10.100) 242.429 LTD.

I thought Pikmin would have provided a bigger bump in hardware sales since GameCube userbase was very small at that time. A 42% of GameCube users bought that game.
 

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[GCN] Pikmin (Nintendo) {2001.10.26} - 101.299 / NEW

GCN Hardware - 25.225 (previous week 10.100) 242.429 LTD.

I thought Pikmin would have provided a bigger bump in hardware sales since GameCube userbase was very small at that time. A 42% of GameCube users bought that game.
It was a new IP at the time in a genre that we rarely see on console though.
 

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Pikmin 3 - 85k
Wii U - 23k

Wii U has already had a couple minor boosts the last couple of weeks in preparation for Pikmin 3... so I'm not expecting a big hardware leap this week. I don't honestly think the White premium SKU will do much. I don't see New Super Luigi doing much either (it'll sell to the converted or have been downloaded already....it won't push new systems sales).

A Pikmin themed Wii U would have done much better (even something as simple as a premium white wii U with some Pikmin character decals).
 

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Pikmin 3 - 85k
Wii U - 23k

Wii U has already had a couple minor boosts the last couple of weeks in preparation for Pikmin 3... so I'm not expecting a big hardware leap this week. I don't honestly think the White premium SKU will do much. I don't see New Super Luigi doing much either (it'll sell to the converted..not push new systems).

A Pikmin themed Wii U would have done much better (even something as simple as a premium white wii U with some Pikmin charcater decals).
Nintendo was too busy making the Chibi Robo Special one to prize it at a contest.

But yeah. I was kinda hopping a special limited edition Pikmin Wii U to drive interest up...
 

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This week Wii U hardware should be compared with Persona 4: The Golden week, not with SS that came with a price cut.
Persona 4 didn't have a bundle.

Pikmin 3 doesn't have a bundle but Nintendo has released the white WiiU alongside the game and NSLU.

Project Diva week would be more comparable
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=489968

Not that I'm expecting >50k. Around 35k would be my bet.
 

shinra-bansho

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Below 30K would be somewhat alarming.

I expect about the same numbers as P4G for Pikmin, with hardware around the same level 30-35K.

40K would be pretty good.

Edit: Oh, I forgot that a new SKU released. Maybe 35-40K should be expected, below that is something of an underperformance.

I don't think a white Wii U really counts as a new color does it?
 

hiska-kun

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Persona 4 didn't have a bundle.

Pikmin 3 doesn't have a bundle but Nintendo has released the white WiiU alongside the game.

Project Diva week would be more comparable
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=489968
The white WiiU was already on the market, the normal set is white. It's just that now the Premium set is also White. So I don't think this could be compared to a bundle.

Also 4 days VS 2 days.
 
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Anything in the 30k segment would be a disaster for the WiiU. Neither Bayonetta nor W101 will sell more units.

The next big releases that could give the WiiU a boost would be X, SMTxFE and Mario Kart. None of them will be released this year, so 2013 would be a lost year for Nintendo on the console side.
 

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By the way, Pikmin was never niche in Japan. Of course, it's been almost 10 years since the last main entry was released so currently its sales potential is unknown. But calling it a niche franchise is a mistake unless we consider that Tales of or Yakuza are niche too.

Edit: What's the point in those Wii U / PS Vita comparisons? They don't make any sense to me.
 

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The white WiiU was already on the market, it was the normal set is white. It's just that now the Premium set is also White. So I don't think this could be compared to a bundle.

Also 4 days VS 2 days.
Ah, didn't know or remember that.

I guess Persona 4 week would be a good comparison then, yes.
 

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Anything in the 30k segment would be a disaster for the WiiU. Neither Bayonetta nor W101 will sell more units.

The next big releases that could give the WiiU a boost would be X, SMTxFE and Mario Kart. None of them will be released this year, so 2013 would be a lost year for Nintendo on the console side.
You think Super Mario 3D World isn't going to have any effect on hardware sales?
 

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Anything in the 30k segment would be a disaster for the WiiU. Neither Bayonetta nor W101 will sell more units.

The next big releases that could give the WiiU a boost would be X, SMTxFE and Mario Kart. None of them will be released this year, so 2013 would be a lost year for Nintendo on the console side.
Um... Super Mario 3D World?
 

L Thammy

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By the way, Pikmin was never niche in Japan. Of course, it's been almost 10 years since the last main entry was released so currently its sales potential is unknown. But calling it a niche franchise is a mistake unless we consider that Tales of or Yakuza are niche too.

Edit: What's the point in those Wii U / PS Vita comparisons? They don't make any sense to me.
It was pretty niche for the first six weeks or so. Then it jumped back into the charts.
 

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Prediction:

Pickmin 110K
WiiU 35K

Optimistic because Vita has had similar jumps. Big release + new colour means that WiiU has to at least clear 30K or it's really doomed.
 
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You think Super Mario 3D World isn't going to have any effect on hardware sales?
Um... Super Mario 3D World?
While I understand that I shouldn't underestimate the selling power of a Mario game. I have a hard time imagine myself 3D World being a huge system seller. Especially since the Japanese audience prefers the 2D versions of Mario and there is already one, NSMBU, on the WiiU. So I guess the hardcore Mario fans already have bought a WiiU.