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Media Create Sales: Week 27, 2014 (Jun 30 - Jul 06)

Josh7289

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GTA5 has had insane legs for a western game. Unprecedented.

Launched at 304k and is now at 722k. GTA bargain editions, now that I look at it, do really well too. The PS2 Vice city one started at 4k and ended up at 191k.

I don't understand why Japan loves GTA5 so much.
Isn't GTA5 the first one with decent story and characterization?

At least that's the way I see it. Personally I'm probably going to pick up GTA5 on PC when it's released, even though I've never liked the series before.
 

Alrus

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Reposting:


Youkai Watch 2 could be in this!
To this day I just can't believe a Yu-Gi-Oh game sold a million copies in its first week...

This game really saved them. Didn't their last few games relatively bomb?
It depends, they've had a few bomb and their regular franchises were still selling okay-ish (but that wasn't going to last). They've had success with Fantasy Life though. And Ni-No-Kuni PS3 sold well in the west (not sure how much they make off western sales).

They probably could have kept going for a while still, but finding a new mega franchise to make up for Inazuma Eleven being dead is great for them of course.
 

mclem

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How long ago was the last week that Yo-kai watch sold fewer copies than all home console hardware put together?
 

random25

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You can remove that "if". YW1 is gonna stay in MC's TOP 20 for quite a while.

Actually, I wouldn't even be surprised if sales actualyl went slightly up next week.
"If" is for top 5 next week, although I believe I really should remove that "if." :p
 

Bruno MB

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Yo-Kai Watch finally becomes the best-selling Level 5 game.

Code:
[B][3DS] Yo-Kai Watch (Level 5) {2013.07.11} - 52.901 / 1.160.576[/B]
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 2: Firestorm / Blizzard (Level 5) {2009.10.01} - 297.310 / 1.157.346
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: Lightning Bolt / Bomb Blast (Level 5) {2010.07.01} - 462.377 / 1.018.381
[NDS] Professor Layton and the Curious Village (Level 5) {2007.02.15} - 119.816 / 1.002.561
[NDS] Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box (Level 5) {2007.11.29} - 307.771 / 945.630
 

frankie_baby

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Yo-Kai Watch finally becomes the best-selling Level 5 game.

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[B][3DS] Yo-Kai Watch (Level 5) {2013.07.11} - 52.901 / 1.160.576[/B]
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 2: Firestorm / Blizzard (Level 5) {2009.10.01} - 297.310 / 1.157.346
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: Lightning Bolt / Bomb Blast (Level 5) {2010.07.01} - 462.377 / 1.018.381
[NDS] Professor Layton and the Curious Village (Level 5) {2007.02.15} - 119.816 / 1.002.561
[NDS] Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box (Level 5) {2007.11.29} - 307.771 / 945.630
Quite possibly a record that might only last a week (if they ship enough)
 
That is an improvement, youd usually expect the sales to be lower a year later.
Don't you remember Reggie's (Iwata's?) E3 presentation from about 3-4 years ago?

Consoles have historically gone up until peaking at year three, and then gone down.

Nintendo was bragging about how they bucked this trend by still going up past three years.

Going down in year two would be bad.
 

Ratrat

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It turned out to be a much bigger success than Layton and IE... don't think anyone expected that.
I thought the Layton games sold millions. If I remember correctly Curious Village didnt start that well but had great legs.
 
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Congrats to Freedom Wars and holy shit @ Yo-kai Watch.

I thought the Layton games sold millions. If I remember correctly Curious Village didnt start that well but had great legs.
IIRC Curious Village didn't hit a million in Japan until a few years ago.
 

vareon

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Not anywhere
Yo-Kai Watch finally becomes the best-selling Level 5 game.

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[B][3DS] Yo-Kai Watch (Level 5) {2013.07.11} - 52.901 / 1.160.576[/B]
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 2: Firestorm / Blizzard (Level 5) {2009.10.01} - 297.310 / 1.157.346
[NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: Lightning Bolt / Bomb Blast (Level 5) {2010.07.01} - 462.377 / 1.018.381
[NDS] Professor Layton and the Curious Village (Level 5) {2007.02.15} - 119.816 / 1.002.561
[NDS] Professor Layton and the Diabolical Box (Level 5) {2007.11.29} - 307.771 / 945.630
Woah, didn't realize this. Congrats, Level 5.
 

L Thammy

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It looks like Freedom Wars will end up as at least the second best selling Vita game:

God Eater 2: 387,305
Persona 4 Golden: 256,494
Toukiden: The Age of Demons: 232,577
Freedom Wars: 230,461
Am I just tired, or is it unusual for new IPs to be so high in a system's best seller list?

Yo-Kai Watch finally becomes the best-selling Level 5 game.
This game has had such a bizarre life.
 

Peff

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9,961 vs 8,251 thats 17% Up YoY. Is a small improvement, still a improvement.
Numbers without context don't mean much. In two weeks last years' number will be 20k and this year will continue to go down until pretty much mid-august.
 
I thought the Layton games sold millions. If I remember correctly Curious Village didnt start that well but had great legs.
Layton series:

1: 1,002,561
2: 945,630
3: 872,170
4: 676,069
5: 394,003
AA: 328,861
6: 249,366

Inazuma:

1: 401,820
2: 1,157,346
3: 1,018,381
3O: 461,791
S: 221,912
Go: 447,448
S2: 151,044
Go2: 440,623
GoS: 80,616
123: 39,142
GOG: 246,003
GOG(DL): 4,666

Given this is more like an Inazuma type brand, they probably have until Yokai Watch 4 before they've critically damaged the brand.
 

test_account

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Quite possibly a record that might only last a week (if they ship enough)
Have that ever happened before? That a sequel sells more in the first week than what the predecessor has sold LTD. I cant really see Yokai Watch 2 breaking a million copies in the first week unless a lot of people are buying both versions, or that a lot of people are very interested in the franchise, but have hold off buying YW1 (and waited to buy YW2 instead). Or that a lot of people have bought used copies, meaning that noticeably more than ~1.2 million people have played YW1.
 

theprodigy

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Pikmin 3 bump from last year + Wii U still falling this year = it's not catching up YTD for a while
 
Am I just tired, or is it unusual for new IPs to be so high in a system's best seller list?
Top 4 for each recent-ish platform (to account for brands actually being big and existing these days):

Wii U:
New Super Mario Bros. U
Wii Party U
Mario Kart 8
Wii Fit U

3DS:
Pokémon X / Y
Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Monster Hunter 4
Mario Kart 7

PS4:
Knack*
Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes
Yakuza: Ishin!
Watch Dogs
Battlefield 4

PS3:
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy XIII-2
Resident Evil 6
One Piece: Pirate Warriors

360:
Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope
Tales of Vesperia
Blue Dragon
The Last Remnant

DS:
New Super Mario Bros.
Pokémon Diamond / Pearl
Pokémon Black / White
Animal Crossing: Wild World

PSP:
Monster Hunter Freedom 3
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite
Monster Hunter Freedom 2
Monster Hunter Freedom Unite [PSP the Best]

Wii:
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Wii Sports
Mario Kart Wii
Wii Fit

The Wii and 360 are the only other platforms with new IPs in the top four that have been out for a notable period of time, and the 360 is the only other one that does it with core titles.

I suspect this relates to not having a lot of major franchises on the system, especially in notable ways.

* Knack doens't really count since it was a free bundle.
 

1st Course

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Wii U 2013 vs Wii U 2014 battle so far (Famitsu)

Code:
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| Week | Wii U 2013 (Sales/YTD) | Wii U 2014 (Sales/YTD) |
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|    1 | 70.662 ( 70.662 )      | 60.548 ( 60.548 )      |
|    2 | 21.489 ( 92.151 )      | 14.029 ( 74.577 )      |
|    3 | 16.635 ( 108.786 )     | 11.036 ( 85.613 )      |
|    4 | 12.335 ( 121.121 )     | 9.461 ( 95.074 )       |
|    5 | 11.714 ( 132.835 )     | 8.679 ( 103.753 )      |
|    6 | 11.092 ( 143.927 )     | 8.605 ( 112.358 )      |
|    7 | 10.167 ( 154.094 )     | 8.706 ( 121.064 )      |
|    8 | 9.495 ( 163.589 )      | 8.129 ( 129.193 )      |
|    9 | 9.528 ( 173.117 )      | 8.515 ( 137.708 )      |
|   10 | 9.089 ( 182.206 )      | 8.128 ( 145.836 )      |
|   11 | 8.567 ( 190.773 )      | 7.297 ( 153.133 )      |
|   12 | 10.172 ( 200.945 )     | 9.504 ( 162.637 )      |
|   13 | 21.502 ( 222.447 )     | 13.073 ( 175.710 )     |
|   14 | 14.413 ( 236.860 )     | 7.686 ( 183.396 )      |
|   15 | 10.147 ( 247.007 )     | 5.693 ( 189.089 )      |
|   16 | 8.047 ( 255.054 )      | 5.588 ( 194.677 )      |
|   17 | 8.058 ( 263.112 )      | 5.596 ( 200.273 )      |
|   18 | 10.573 ( 273.685 )     | 8.217 ( 208.490 )      |
|   19 | 6.744 ( 280.429 )      | 8.065 ( 216.555 )      |
|   20 | 6.058 ( 286.487 )      | 6.836 ( 223.391 )      |
|   21 | 5.536 ( 292.023 )      | 8.858 ( 232.249 )      |
|   22 | 5.669 ( 297.692 )      | 19.031 ( 251.280 )     |
|   23 | 4.549 ( 302.241 )      | 12.576 ( 263.856 )     |
|   24 | 5.031 ( 307.272 )      | 10.366 ( 274.222 )     |
|   25 | 4.236 ( 311.508 )      | 8.373 ( 282.595 )      |
|   26 | 5.846 ( 317.354 )      | 9.010 ( 291.605 )      |
|   27 | 6.380 ( 323.734 )      | 8.020 ( 299.625 )      |
|   28 | 20.728 ( 344.462 )     |                        |
|   29 | 14.024 ( 358.486 )     |                        |
|   30 | 10.937 ( 369.423 )     |                        |
|   31 | 9.432 ( 378.855 )      |                        |
|   32 | 9.291 ( 388.146 )      |                        |
|   33 | 10.951 ( 399.097 )     |                        |
|   34 | 7.024 ( 406.121 )      |                        |
|   35 | 6.239 ( 412.360 )      |                        |
|   36 | 5.054 ( 417.414 )      |                        |
|   37 | 4.842 ( 422.256 )      |                        |
|   38 | 5.147 ( 427.403 )      |                        |
|   39 | 5.560 ( 432.963 )      |                        |
|   40 | 3.853 ( 436.816 )      |                        |
|   41 | 3.405 ( 440.221 )      |                        |
|   42 | 3.083 ( 443.304 )      |                        |
|   43 | 3.010 ( 446.314 )      |                        |
|   44 | 40.118 ( 486.432 )     |                        |
|   45 | 14.060 ( 500.492 )     |                        |
|   46 | 14.006 ( 514.498 )     |                        |
|   47 | 20.177 ( 534.675 )     |                        |
|   48 | 27.325 ( 562.000 )     |                        |
|   49 | 46.773 ( 608.773 )     |                        |
|   50 | 72.982 ( 681.755 )     |                        |
|   51 | 119.159 ( 800.914 )    |                        |
|   52 | 79.174 ( 880.088 )     |                        |
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Probably going to catch up by 40-43.
 

Principate

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Am I just tired, or is it unusual for new IPs to be so high in a system's best seller list?



This game has had such a bizarre life.
It's not that strange we did come the wii, ds generation, but in those cases it's because they were a phenomenon, here it seems Vita's top selling software sales are so bad the difference the sales of "major" IP and he potential sales of a new one overlap fairly significantly.

Nirolak's post explains it better
 

frankie_baby

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Have that ever happened before? That a sequel sells more in the first week than what the predecessor has sold LTD. I cant really see Yokai Watch 2 breaking a million copies in the first week unless a lot of people are buying both versions, or that a lot of people are very interested in the franchise, but have hold off buying YW1 (and waited to buy YW2 instead). Or that a lot of people have bought used copies, meaning that noticeably more than ~1.2 million people have played YW1.
I really don't know but it won't shock me if it does
 

Ty4on

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Still, a YoY small improvement...
Except it isn't. Sales fluctuate, but the bigger picture (YTD) show that sales are down from last year. Same week last year the WiiU had zero titles in the top 20 and only one in the top 30 which was NSMB at 29.
 

mclem

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These are the only games in Japanese history that have sold over 1milllion first week that aren't Pokemon, Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, or Monster Hunter (no first week data available for Famicom or Super Famicom):

[GB] Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Monsters 4 - 1,228,599 / 2,210,162 (Dec 7, 2000)
[PS1] Biohazard 3 Last Escape - 1,005,020 / 1,383,282 (Sept 22, 1999)
[PS1] Biohazard 2 - 1,389,733 / 2,154,975 (Jan 29, 1998)
Now that strikes me as interesting. For that to sell 1M, it'd need to sell to 85% of the current userbase of the first game in the first week.

I don't think that's realistic, but it does get me wondering about a more generalised statistic: for sequels of big-hit titles (I guess in particular ones that are leggy, slow burners with a lot of success in the long run): How do their first-week sales rack up as a proportion of the LTD sales at that point of the previous game?
 

L Thammy

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Okay, that makes sense. I'm wondering whether that vacuum is encouraging mid-tier developers to move into that space - when the cats are away and all that. That may be more sleep-think though.

Man, when is the XBone hitting the shores of Japan? Time for some new blood.
I like that double-entendre.
 

And_Gignac

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Consoles are becoming a niche in Japan. The dead of middle of the road software is really hurting them and soon the same could happen to handhelds if the smartphone bleeding isn't contained. :p

I sincerely don't see Final Fantasy XV selling over 1,5 million.
 

Garraboa

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I can see MK8 selling 1M by the end of Wii U's lifespan.

Also, this is the first time I've been up so early as to see the thread being created O_O
 

Psycho_Mantis

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Given recent PSO2 complications, Freedom Wars is my new drug.
Game is amazing.
I'm digging how fluid the combat looks.

I think it has more to do with western games generally becoming more and more popular in Japan. GTA that was faily popular even during PS2 gen has taken advantage of that new market with GTAV.
Yeah thats probably why.

Still did not expect it to go that big.
 
Okay, that makes sense. I'm wondering whether that vacuum is encouraging mid-tier developers to move into that space - when the cats are away and all that. That may be more sleep-think though.
I think there are some companies that are looking at the Vita and mentally combining the lack of competition and the incentives from Sony and going "This actually makes sense for us given our sales potential."

Like this is much rarer at retail in the West because almost anything that makes it to retail these days is expected to sell 2+ million copies to have even been worth greenlighting (and even then that's not enough for a lot of games), but if you look at indie titles there are certainly devs who favor something like XBLA, PSN, or the eShop where, despite its lower sales, the type of game they're making backed by first party marketing sticks out more than it does on Steam. They often have the option of porting to Steam and/or other digital distribution services later as well.

For example, if there's not another PlayStation handheld, Tecmo Koei can always take Toukiden to the 3DS and/or 4DS. However, had they just launched there first, they would have had to gone head to head with Monster Hunter directly as a new IP on a system with seas of software. Since the "We're going to take them down or at least take a bunch of their market share." mindset appears notably rarer among Japanese publishers, trying to avoid them while lowering risk with first party money seems to be the favored option.

There is an argument that it makes more sense to just invest heavily and go straight for the throat of your competitor, which is something we see a lot with things like Watch Dogs vs. GTA or Battlefield vs. CoD, but I feel like that's pretty rare in the Japanese. It has certainly paid off for Yokai Watch though.
 

Magicpaint

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Nice hold for Freedom Wars.

Yokai Watch 2 should make things more interesting next week. Congrats to the first for being Level-5's best seller before the sequel's launch.

Freedom Wars is going to outsell PQ. Didn't expect that.
Why? Another game filling in the void left by MH in the Sony portable ecosystem has more selling potential than an EO flavoured Persona spinoff. Persona is growing as a franchise, but it's not that huge.
 

Soph

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Only a few more millions for 3DS to overtake PSP, sad that it'll never reach DS numbers. I think the system is superior.
 

u_neek

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Honestly, why is Yokai Watch 2 already launching...
Because Level 5.

Really excited to follow YW2's numbers though. Imagine if it sells 1 million in its first week and has legs like the original (probably won't but 1m first week would be amazing nonetheless).