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[extralite]

Subway posters, blanket tv ads, gigantic billboards, tie in anime, other cross media attempts at gaining attenting, buying a 38+ score in Famitsu=major marketing.

Except for cross media stuff, which of these would you expect 2 months before the game is released? And I can see BD score 38 without SE paying Famitsu, the demos were really good.

Also most games get their animes after they're released, e.g. I11 and P4. When one is released before the game, it isn't guaranteed to do much good, see WD/SoD.

The major marketing might still start (emphasis on might).

 

[slaughterking]

It was an honest question: MMORPG are quite difficult to review just after the launch, I think. I was asking starting from DQX but referring also to other titles in the genre.

They played the Beta to learn just enough about the game to come up with a couple of empty phrases for the review and look at how much advertising space SE bought to get the review scores.

Self-respecting review outlets don't review MMOs at all.

 

[Nekki]

They played the Beta to learn just enough about the game to come up with a couple of empty phrases for the review and look at how much advertising space SE bought to get the review scores.

Self-respecting review outlets don't review MMOs at all.

You're forgetting it's the nextt mainline Dragon Quest

 

[Santiako]

They played the Beta to learn just enough about the game to come up with a couple of empty phrases for the review and look at how much advertising space SE bought to get the review scores.

Self-respecting review outlets don't review MMOs at all.

You can play with friends! 10
Slimes are cute! 10
The characters make funny noises! 10
You can be a fish person! 10

40/40

 

[saichi]

You can play with friends! 10
Slimes are cute! 10
The characters make funny noises! 10
You can be a fish person! 10

40/40

I approve.

 

[Man God]

Except for cross media stuff, which of these would you expect 2 months before the game is released? And I can see BD score 38 without SE paying Famitsu, the demos were really good.

Also most games get their animes after they're released, e.g. I11 and P4. When one is released before the game, it isn't guaranteed to do much good, see WD/SoD.

The major marketing might still start (emphasis on might).

Not arguing that, in fact I agree with it. I'm also completely with Duckroll in that you are seeing the only marketing this game is getting right now, with the final piece being that demo.

 

[Tenki]

You can play with friends! 10
Slimes are cute! 10
The characters make funny noises! 10
You can be a fish person! 10

40/40

:lol

 

[electroplankton]

You can play with friends! 10
Slimes are cute! 10
The characters make funny noises! 10
You can be a fish person! 10

40/40

Ah ah, for a moment I thought this was the actual review.

 

[Mpl90]

Ah ah, for a moment I thought this was the actual review.

Probably it won't be that different. :lol

And since Orgen nominated it, Comgnet comparison!

[PSP] Hatsune Miku Project Diva 2nd - 294pt
[PSP] Hatsune Miku Project Diva Extend - 249pt
[3DS] Hatsune Miku Project Mirai - 60pt + something else ( two SKUs avaliable, the other being less than 24pt for sure)
[PSV] Hatsune Miku Project Diva f - 101pt

 

[gashikunFLCL]

Probably it won't be that different. :lol

And since Orgen nominated it, Comgnet comparison!

[PSP] Hatsune Miku Project Diva 2nd - 294pt
[PSP] Hatsune Miku Project Diva Extend - 249pt
[PSV] Hatsune Miku Project Diva f - 101pt

Can you get the one for Project Mirai too?

 

[Mpl90]

Can you get the one for Project Mirai too?

Oh right, I forgot it. Editing my post right now.

 

[Celine]

:lol

Well that worked for Seaman.

 

[extralite]

Not arguing that, in fact I agree with it. I'm also completely with Duckroll in that you are seeing the only marketing this game is getting right now, with the final piece being that demo.

So there'll be no ads on TV or in magazines?

 

[muu]

Except for cross media stuff, which of these would you expect 2 months before the game is released? And I can see BD score 38 without SE paying Famitsu, the demos were really good.

Also most games get their animes after they're released, e.g. I11 and P4. When one is released before the game, it isn't guaranteed to do much good, see WD/SoD.

The major marketing might still start (emphasis on might).

Even for something like DQX I think it was a couple weeks prior to release when TV commercials started popping up.

As for anime stuff... they try to line up the release while the series is still airing. The PSP version of Steins;gate was so successful because the release was timed to coincide w/ some of the highest points of the story. P4G would have done the same; don't forget that game was delayed from a spring release to June.

 

[extralite]

Even for something like DQX I think it was a couple weeks prior to release when TV commercials started popping up.

That is exactly what I'm saying. MH3G getting early TV commercials was mostly for letting the multimillion player audience know that they should start buying the new hardware. It rarely happens otherwise.

As for anime stuff... they try to line up the release while the series is still airing. The PSP version of Steins;gate was so successful because the release was timed to coincide w/ some of the highest points of the story. P4G would have done the same; don't forget that game was delayed from a spring release to June.

No idea about Steins;gate but the anime for P4G was made after P4, which is 4 years old. P4 was plenty successful without an anime too.

Animes can help, they obviously align dates for best effect, but it doesn't work for everything and the actual cost of it is debatable. I mean, an anime won't be made just for promotion. They generally intend to make money on the anime itself too.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Meh, they didn't review DQX.

 

[Gradivus]

To add on the discussion about those AKB48 games for VITA and 3DS, Famitsu just announced that AKB48+Me will be out Oct 25th.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

http://members.mh-frontier.jp/campaign/free/201208/

Play Monster Hunter Frontier one week for free?

dat DQX effect

 

[Kenka]

It will be especially difficult to wait for the numbers today.
C'mon DQ, break that 400k bar.

I'm going crazy, I need some YMO to hold strong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxIZ7ZPtEcI

!!!

 

[electroplankton]

Btw, all those PSP announcement in this week Famitsu should scary Vita owners.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Btw, all those PSP announcement in this week Famitsu should scary Vita owners.

Better PSP support which makes them also playable on Vita than them being announced on 3DS - Vita can be thankful that PSP and its installed base are delaying a total 3DS dominance when it comes to handheld announcments.

But for 2013 Vita better be established or it wont be pretty.

 

[walking fiend]

It will be especially difficult to wait for the numbers today.
C'mon DQ, break that 400k bar.

I'm going crazy, I need some YMO to hold strong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxIZ7ZPtEcI

!!!

You guys sure have set your bars low

Better PSP support which makes them also playable on Vita than them being announced on 3DS - Vita can be thankful that PSP and its installed base are delaying a total 3DS dominance when it comes to handheld announcments.

onlyif they are released on PSV or if PSV supported UMD

 

[Smiles and Cries]

every bump of this thread gets me hyped for DQX numbers

come on 550K!

 

[disco]

It will be especially difficult to wait for the numbers today.
C'mon DQ, break that 400k bar.

I'm going crazy, I need some YMO to hold strong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxIZ7ZPtEcI

!!!

I love how crazy GAF is!

 

[cw_sasuke]

You guys sure have set your bars low


onlyif they are released on PSV or if PSV supported UMD

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=40579805&postcount=355

?

 

[Mpl90]

Better PSP support which makes them also playable on Vita than them being announced on 3DS - Vita can be thankful that PSP and its installed base are delaying a total 3DS dominance when it comes to handheld announcments.

But for 2013 Vita better be established or it wont be pretty.

Also playable on PSV? Just two of them so far: LBX W and AKB1/153, when there have been many PSP only announcements ( especially anime tie-ins).

 

[walking fiend]

every bump of this thread gets me hyped for DQX numbers

come on 550K!

I expect 700k-800k! (it has the full week to itself, right?)

 

[electroplankton]

Better PSP support which makes them also playable on Vita than them being announced on 3DS - Vita can be thankful that PSP and its installed base are delaying a total 3DS dominance when it comes to handheld announcments.

But for 2013 Vita better be established or it wont be pretty.

Also: Tales producer said that Vita seems not a viable platform for the series now, which is pretty scary given how Tales has been linked to Sony platform throughout the years, even when such platforms didn't sell really well.

 

[Metallix87]

Also: Tales producer said that Vita seems not a viable platform for the series now, which is pretty scary given how Tales has been linked to Sony platform throughout the years, even when such platforms didn't sell really well.

Do you have a link to that? I'd really be interesting in reading his thoughts on Vita.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I expect 700k-800k! (it has the full week to itself, right?)

I'm keeping my hopes low :3
I don't mind 700-800K can it double those first day numbers? dunno it was more than two days so thats nice

 

[slaughterking]

Also playable on PSV? Just two of them so far: LBX W and AKB1/153, when there have been many PSP only announcements ( especially anime tie-ins).

A PSN version could be playable on Vita, but that's clearly nothing Japan really does.

 

[Tratorn]

Also playable on PSV? Just two of them so far: LBX W and AKB1/153, when there have been many PSP only announcements ( especially anime tie-ins).

You can play the PSN-Versions of PSP-games on vita.

 

[Mpl90]

A PSN version could be playable on Vita, but that's clearly nothing Japan really does.

Yeah, I was talking about retail versions.

 

[Metallix87]

You can play the PSN-Versions of PSP-games on vita.

How many new PSP games get PSN releases in Japan?

 

[cw_sasuke]

Also: Tales producer said that Vita seems not a viable platform for the series now, which is pretty scary given how Tales has been linked to Sony platform throughout the years, even when such platforms didn't sell really well.

Vita is getting destroyed by the 3DS in Japan and TotA actually performed very well in europe - it would be weird if they abandoned the 3DS that quickly for more Vita Support. If they stick to their plan and establish the Vita as a spin-off plattform i doubt those titles will be released in western markets.

A PSN version could be playable on Vita, but that's clearly nothing Japan really does.

How would you know that ? I dont see why Vita owners who are interested in specific PSP titles wouldnt download the game on PSN. I mean i do it
A "real" Vita version on retail is always better but i doubt Vita owners would ignore good games just because they are on PSN.

 

[electroplankton]

Do you have a link to that? I'd really be interesting in reading his thoughts on Vita.

KoT: Tales of Innocence was remade for the PlayStation Vita as Tales of Innocence R. The game holds many clues about future remakes for Tempest and Hearts as well. Yet, there hasn’t been any info about those games ever since. Does it have anything to do with the poor sales of the Vita?

Y: As you know, Tales of the Tempest, Tales of Innocence and Tales of Hearts were released on Nintendo DS. We would indeed like to remake those games, but we have to reconsider our projects for now. As you said, the PS Vita isn’t selling well, and we are now waiting a little longer to make sure we take the best decision. In Japan, the PS Vita is mostly bought by hardcore gamers and fans, and here, at Japan Expo, I only saw three people with a PS Vita, and all three were playing Gravity Rush.

http://kingdom-of-tales.net/news-568.html (in French)

 

[walking fiend]

You can play the PSN-Versions of PSP-games on vita.

You cannot play all PSN games on PSV, the list of games supported is limited.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

After today's numbers what is the next exciting week before Wii U hits the charts?

 

[Mpl90]

After today's numbers what is the next exciting week before Wii U hits the charts?

The Obon Week, due to games rising
Hatsune Miku - Senran Kagura Burst - Soul Hackers Week
October
And then...who knows.

 

[walking fiend]

After today's numbers what is the next exciting week before Wii U hits the charts?

I think the week which has Japanese festivals (next week or week after that), to see how much 3DS will sell

 

[Mario007]

KoT: Tales of Innocence was remade for the PlayStation Vita as Tales of Innocence R. The game holds many clues about future remakes for Tempest and Hearts as well. Yet, there hasn’t been any info about those games ever since. Does it have anything to do with the poor sales of the Vita?

Y: As you know, Tales of the Tempest, Tales of Innocence and Tales of Hearts were released on Nintendo DS. We would indeed like to remake those games, but we have to reconsider our projects for now. As you said, the PS Vita isn’t selling well, and we are now waiting a little longer to make sure we take the best decision. In Japan, the PS Vita is mostly bought by hardcore gamers and fans, and here, at Japan Expo, I only saw three people with a PS Vita, and all three were playing Gravity Rush.

http://kingdom-of-tales.net/news-568.html (in French)

Yeah he isn't saying it's not a viable platform but rather stating the obvious that it's not selling and when it starts Tales will support it. It's common sense really.

 

[Dystify]

every bump of this thread gets me hyped for DQX numbers

come on 550K!

They should be here in 2hrs and 25min from the time of this post.

 

[Kenka]

After today's numbers what is the next exciting week before Wii U hits the charts?

With Mario, Pokémon and DQ launching in a couple of months, the whole year is a sales-age fiesta.

Each week has been a blessing since Famitsu decided to release numbers earlier.

 

[electroplankton]

The Obon Week, due to games rising
Hatsune Miku - Senran Kagura Burst - Soul Hackers Week
October
And then...who knows.

Yeah, Obon should be interesting with Mario/3DSXL.
October with Bravely Default and Project X Zone as well.

 

[slaughterking]

How would you know that ? I dont see why Vita owners who are interested in specific PSP titles wouldnt download the game on PSN. I mean i do it
A "real" Vita version on retail is always better but i doubt Vita owners would ignore good games just because they are on PSN.

The intersection between Vita owners, people that buy PSP games and people that buy their games online rather than retail is miniscule.
Sure, existing Vita owners that buy PSP PSN games exist, but it's not even worth talking about.

 

[Laguna]

They even had plans to remake Tales of Heart and Tales of the Tempest for Vita. But we know what happened...

 

[Mario007]

With Mario, Pokémon and DQ launching in a couple of months, the whole year is a sales-age fiesta.

Each week has been a blessing since Famitsu decided to release numbers earlier.

I'm actually really excited for next year too, especially seeing FFXIV PS3 numbers, how FF X HD will do and how a proper new MH will do on the 3DS and if it can go up as high as 3-4 million.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

They should be here in 2hrs and 25min from the time of this post.

thanks, gone to breakfast

 

[electroplankton]

Yeah he isn't saying it's not a viable platform but rather stating the obvious that it's not selling and when it starts Tales will support it. It's common sense really.

Well, if they're waiting to develop something, to me it seems there's nothing planned and therefore no Tales of for the next year at least... Which is not so good for Vita since Tales of should be one of the most appreciated series on Sony platforms and could really help Vita to take off (not alone, of course). Stating that the platform is not selling well and so they're unsure whether to support it or not means that now the platform is not viable, otherwise they would have something on it to announce.

 

[Metallix87]

Yeah he isn't saying it's not a viable platform but rather stating the obvious that it's not selling and when it starts Tales will support it. It's common sense really.

What if it doesn't "start selling", though?