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[perfectchaos007]

This is not really accurate.

PS3 Week 30: 938k to Wii's 2563k (1625k lead)
PS3 Week 60: 1673k to Wii's 4618k (2945k lead)
PS3 Week 90: 2276k to Wii's 6510k (4234k lead)
PS3 Week 120: 2862 / 7853 (4991)
PS3 Week 150: 3541 / 8534 (4993)
PS3 Week 180: 10214 / 5024 (5190)
PS3 Week 210: 10793 / 5625 (5168)
PS3 Week 240: 11627 / 6491 (5136)

So basically at its peak, the Wii-PS3 gap was ~5200k. It's currently 4754k (we're around week 260 now). The gap has shrunk by about 10%. I don't think the difference between the grand canyon and the LA river is 10%. If it was a Grand Canyon before, it's a Grand Canyon now.

Now, if you want to talk "active buying base" or "software buying base" or ask "Is the PS3 still a non-viable system?" or even "percentage difference in hardware install bases", then sure, the gap is closed. Just like the gap closed between the PSP and the DS three years ago. Even though the DS was still selling better, the PSP reached a critical mass beyond which it was basically safe.

But in absolute terms, the PS3 has shaved off relatively little of the Wii's lead until now.

Yeah I was referring to the market share lead that has closed. If the Wii and PS3 sold the same amount of hardware per month, the gap would still be closing in that sense

 

[Alexios]

Btw it seems the Dragon Quest Collection is already in some people's hands? Did shops break street date? I hope we'll get the Dragon Quest X trailer youtubed soon

Now there are unboxing videos on youtube too. Where's my DQX footage at?!

 

[Mpl90]

Now there are unboxing videos on youtube too. Where's my DQX footage at?!

You have to pay to watch it online.

Spoiler

BWAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAH

 

[LOCK]

The 3DS is doing great, considering its low selling software. October is going to be slow, but November and December are going to be beasts. If people had already made up their minds and/or with all the recent announcements including release dates, decided to buy a 3DS for a particular game this holiday, then buying one early would make a whole lot of sense. I guess we could test this theory by seeing if the 3DS does decent in October with hardly no software charting. (comparing tie ratios)

Tales of Graces deserved sales like this. But congrats anyway to Namco, now just bring it to America before 2014.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Congratulations to walking fiend and FINALFANTASYDOG for winning the ranking by units and by points/percentages respectively.

Results	By Units			By Points	
1	 55501	walking fiend		 75,09%	FINALFANTASYDOG
2	130485	lunchwithyuzo		 77,33%	ULTROS!
3	153291	ULTROS!			 79,57%	walking fiend
4	153817	Yeshua			 79,68%	lunchwithyuzo
5	160817	u_neek			 91,38%	u_neek
6	161817	noobie			105,41%	zomgbbqftw
7	163817	Kurosaki Ichigo		106,11%	noobie
8	175817	electroplankton		109,15%	Kurosaki Ichigo
9	177817	zomgbbqftw		110,37%	French
10	179805	FINALFANTASYDOG		115,04%	Chris1964
11	194682	Dash Kappei		118,52%	electroplankton
12	197501	French			136,06%	Dash Kappei
13	208817	schuelma		162,98%	schuelma
14	217126	Chris1964		163,66%	Yeshua
15	218817	BKK			168,37%	Road
16	241596	Road			176,70%	BKK
17	405429	Aru			230,59%	Aru

09/05-09/11	Sales	elect	Chris	Frenc	BKK	noobi	walki	lunch	ULTRO	Yeshu	Aru	zomgb	Dash	Road	Kuro	FINAL	u_nee	schue
PS3 Hardware	64786	53000	45678	47000	60000	43000	56000	55555	60000	45000	80000	38000	54321	44444	55000	67842	58000	50000
PS3 TalesXillia	525605	420000	378901	400000	350000	435000	525000	444444	650000	450000	235000	412000	401234	355555	425000	381262	410000	385000
PS3 RE:RS	93768	40000	43210	40000	80000	45000	52000	55555	75000	50000	6000	57000	42345	55555	45000	63532	60000	55000
PS3 Resistance	20342	25000	21098	20000	45000	21000	16000	22222	15000	35000	8500	21000	28765	33333	25000	22512	25000	35000

Difference	0	175817	217126	197501	218817	161817	55501	130485	153291	153817	405429	177817	194682	241596	163817	179805	160817	208817

Difference (%)	0,00%	118,52%	115,04%	110,37%	176,70%	106,11%	79,57%	79,68%	77,33%	163,66%	230,59%	105,41%	136,06%	168,37%	109,15%	75,09%	91,38%	162,98%
																
PSP New Ghiren	0	-11786	-19108	-17786	-4786	-21786	-8786	-9231	-4786	-19786	15214	-26786	-10465	-20342	-9786	3056	-6786	-14786
PSP BlackRock	0	-105605	-146704	-125605	-175605	-90605	-605	-81161	124395	-75605	-290605	-113605	-124371	-170050	-100605	-144343	-115605	-140605
PS3 MHP3rdHD	0	-53768	-50558	-53768	-13768	-48768	-41768	-38213	-18768	-43768	-87768	-36768	-51423	-38213	-48768	-30236	-33768	-38768
PS3 SW3 Emp	0	4658	756	-342	24658	658	-4342	1880	-5342	14658	-11842	658	8423	12991	4658	2170	4658	14658

Past Predictions Results:
08/22-08/28 Predictions Results
08/08-08/14 Predictions Results
07/11-07/17 Predictions Results
Prediction League Results 2009-2010

 

[Chris1964]

Since this definetely got lost it's a better place here and shows Nintendo's expectations for December titles.

The Wii has not said its last word
Start with the Nintendo Wii that France does not give up, far from it, providing the output of no less than 5 packs. The first is already known: this is the package containing the game console Wii Sports and the GameCube lacks backwards compatibility. Although we do not yet know the contents of the other four pack, it is rumored that new consoles can see the colors of the day. Of the five packs, one should provide a carton as Nintendo potential sales of 250,000 copies. Besides this, the other four will be more Modet packs with about 60 or 70,000 copies per pack provided. The price of the packs has not been announced but should be similar to that already announced, that is to say € 149 including tax.

Software side, Nintendo France put on The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword to boost sales of Wii. The potential sale is announced of 250,000 units (70,000 collector versions with remote, 180,000 normal version), against 30,000 and 40,000 for Xenoblade for Kirby's Adventure.

The 3DS is honored, and the DS still there
Although 3DS had a difficult start, Nintendo has a lot of games sell by year-end: 22,000 Starfox, Pokémon Rumble 60,000 Blast, but above 300,000 3D Super Mario Land and Mario Kart 330,000 7. These figures give dizzy but that show's ambition for the Nintendo first-party games.

For the DS, Nintendo is counting on the next Layton, Professor Layton and the Call Spectrum, to power the DS game sales with estimated sales of 200,000 copies in France. It will remain a little room for the next Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2 (30 000) and Kirby Mass Attack (20,000).

Congratulations if you've read (and memorized) all those numbers!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=444938

 

[Alexios]

Now there are unboxing videos on youtube too. Where's my DQX footage at?!

Finally, DQX footage! Mega uploaded because the YouTube video I saw disappeared and trying to put it back is futile. Nothing too exciting or all new but, neat. Promising game.

Low quality flv, I wasn't gonna upload a giant file on my crappy connection, especially after the failed attempt to get the video back on YouTube only to have it get banned.

 

[noobie]

BTW at which number this week PS3 hardware sales stand? i think it should be in top 5 of the non-holiday sales? if i remember correctly only MGS4 pushed PS3 higher than this week PS3 sales. .

 

[noobie]

PS3 hardware bundle sold 24k
http://www.m-create.com/ranking/

So people saying >50k of hardware bundle are not right..
24k also sounds right because the week previous to this PS3 was selling around 30k... so normal 30k + normal 10k boast on TOX launch (for people who were interested in game but didnt got hardware bundle or were not hard core gamer enough to go for the hardware bundle.) and then 24k of hardware bundles

 

[Road]

PS3 highest weekly hardware sales: http://garaph.info/sqldirect.php?queryid=2226



87% sell-through for Xillia, which gives us the known 600k shipment.

 

[Jokeropia]

That too I guess, following that shit can't be easy. Holiday, hum. Why did I think it was going against a big title, looking @ that MC thread it's by itself, at the top to boot.

FFXIII was released the week after. You might be thinking of that.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Just going with the period of history in Garaph, first weeks over 500K include multiples from these series:

Pokémon
Dragon Quest
Monster Hunter
Final Fantasy
New Super Mario Bros.
Onimusha
Winning Eleven
Musou

Also Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Kingdom Hearts II, Mario Kart Wii, Gran Turismo 4.

Yeah I was referring to the market share lead that has closed. If the Wii and PS3 sold the same amount of hardware per month, the gap would still be closing in that sense

Definitely closer, yeah. Now the Wii/PS3 split is about 62/38, compared to 66/34 a year before or 70/30 the year before that. Peak was about 76/24, but that was still in the first year.

 

[noobie]

PS3 highest weekly hardware sales: http://garaph.info/sqldirect.php?queryid=2226



87% sell-through for Xillia, which gives us the known 600k shipment.

Thanks
WOW.. except for MGS 4 week of (06-06-2008) i dont see any other software pushing PS3 so high

2009-12-14 PS3 237086 (FFXIII & Holiday Effect)
2009-08-31 PS3 151783 (Price drop week)
2009-12-28 PS3 114368 (Holiday Sales)
2009-12-21 PS3 110519 (Holiday Sales)
2006-11-06 PS3 81639 (Launch Week)
2006-12-18 PS3 76882 (Launch Holiday Sales)
2010-12-27 PS3 76422 (Holiday Sales)
2008-06-09 PS3 75311 (MGS 4 Week)
2009-12-07 PS3 75086 (Holiday Sales)
2006-12-25 PS3 71727 (Launch Yr Holiday Sales)
2006-12-11 PS3 70942 (Launch Yr Holiday Sales)
2007-01-01 PS3 69944 (Launch Yr Holiday Sales)
2010-11-22 PS3 68840 (Holiday Sales)
2011-09-05 PS3 64786 (TOX)

 

[Cwarrior]

No clue why tales of Xilla is selling so much, only possible explanation the extra 200k that bought it cause they want to play as Azien

Holiday media creats is going to be so good with 3ds line up and vita launch.

 

[walking fiend]

No clue why tales of Xilla is selling so much, only possible explanation the extra 200k that bought it cause they want to play as Azien

Holiday media creats is going to be so good with 3ds line up and vita launch.

1. Tales has been a very densely running franchise with a lot of good - very good games in the series. It is a mostly reliable franchise that got a very high profile game.
2. FF has been a brand in decline as long as quality and missed deadlines go.
3. Series like Shin Megami have been totally absent from PS3
4. There weren't many high profile Japan focused games on PS3 released this year so far in general (it has been mostly bleak for the west as well too, as long as my memory serves for past few months)


btw, Thx Kurosaki-kun. Feels good to win the first time you've participated

 

[ksamedi]

I would really be surprised at a game selling 500k+ out of the gate and not reaching a million. I think we have to consider new franchise popularity into this before we rule out that Tales will not reach a million. It could have longer legs because of this new popularity.

 

[beril]

I would really be surprised at a game selling 500k+ out of the gate and not reaching a million. I think we have to consider new franchise popularity into this before we rule out that Tales will not reach a million. It could have longer legs because of this new popularity.

Have a look at the list JoshuaJSlone posted. Most games on that list that aren't Pokemon, MonHun or Mario, did not double their first week sales, and many of the games around 500-600 didn't reach a million. Also the games with higher openings traditionally has worse legs.

 

[EXGN]

Thanks
WOW.. except for MGS 4 week of (06-06-2008) i dont see any other software pushing PS3 so high

2009-12-14 PS3 237086 (FFXIII & Holiday Effect)
2009-08-31 PS3 151783 (Price drop week)
2009-12-28 PS3 114368 (Holiday Sales)
2009-12-21 PS3 110519 (Holiday Sales)
2006-11-06 PS3 81639 (Launch Week)
2006-12-18 PS3 76882 (Launch Holiday Sales)
2010-12-27 PS3 76422 (Holiday Sales)
2008-06-09 PS3 75311 (MGS 4 Week)
2009-12-07 PS3 75086 (Holiday Sales)
2006-12-25 PS3 71727 (Launch Yr Holiday Sales)
2006-12-11 PS3 70942 (Launch Yr Holiday Sales)
2007-01-01 PS3 69944 (Launch Yr Holiday Sales)
2010-11-22 PS3 68840 (Holiday Sales)
2011-09-05 PS3 64786 (TOX)

Wasn't the Advent Children/FF13 demo week up there somewhere?

 

[noobie]

Wasn't the Advent Children/FF13 demo week up there somewhere?

yes its a bit below this week.. PS3 did around 62K on advent children release week

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu Sales: Week 36, 2011 (Aug 29 - Sep 04)

01./00. [PSP] Grand Knights History <RPG> (Marvelous Entertainment) {2011.09.01} (¥5.229) - 63.672 / NEW
02./01. [PS3] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 HD Ver. <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.08.25} (¥4.800) - 55.346 / 338.306 (-80%)
03./04. [PS3] Samurai Warriors 3: Empires # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2011.08.25} (¥6.090) - 23.186 / 93.674 (-67%)
04./06. [WII] Rhythm Heaven <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.07.21} (¥5.800) - 21.044 / 440.982 (-18%)
05./00. [3DS] Devil Survivor: Over Clock <RPG> (Atlus Co.) {2011.09.01} (¥6.279) - 18.564 / NEW
06./03. [PSP] Mobile Suit Gundam: New Giren's Ambition <SLG> (Bandai Namco) {2011.08.25} (¥6.280) - 15.534 / 90.477 (-79%)
07./10. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.06.16} (¥4.800) - 14.525 / 370.745 (-7%)
08./00. [PSP] Corpse Party: Book of Shadows # <ADV> (5pb.) {2011.09.01} (¥6.090) - 14.250 / NEW
09./08. [NDS] Kirby Mass Attack <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.08.04} (¥3.800) - 13.673 / 183.559 (-23%)
10./05. [PSP] Dynasty Warriors 7: Special <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2011.08.25} (¥6.090) - 13.417 / 42.015 (-53%)
11./07. [PSP] Monster Hunter Diary: Pokapoka Felyne G <ETC> (Capcom) {2011.08.10} (¥3.990) - 12.970 / 175.404 (-40%)
12./09. [3DS] Pokemon Rumble Blast <ACT> (Pokemon Co.) {2011.08.11} (¥4.800) - 12.465 / 156.933 (-30%)
13./02. [PSP] Black Rock Shooter: The Game # <RPG> (Image Epoch) {2011.08.25} (¥6.279) - 11.827 / 120.543 (-89%)
14./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops - Dubbed Edition (Reprint) <ACT> (Square Enix) {2011.09.01} (¥3.990) - 10.993 / NEW
15./12. [WII] Wii Sports Resort <SPT> (Nintendo) {2009.06.25} (¥4.800) - 10.860 / 2.472.532 (-8%)
16./00. [360] Monster Hunter Frontier Online: 2011 Anniversary Premium Package <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.08.31} (¥10.290) - 6.334 / NEW
17./17. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends <ETC> (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} (¥4.800) - 6.072 / 313.448 (-15%)
18./18. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 <ACT> (Capcom) {2010.12.01} (¥5.800) - 5.273 / 4.495.438 (-19%)
19./26. [WII] Mario Kart Wii <RCE> (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} (¥5.800) - 5.243 / 3.241.438 (+0%)
20./13. [NDS] Sweet PreCure: Melody Collection <ETC> (Bandai Namco) {2011.08.25} (¥5.040) - 5.222 / 15.998 (-52%)
21./00. [WII] Inazuma Eleven Strikers <SPT> (Level 5) {2011.07.16} (¥5.980) - 5.079 / 174.995
22./24. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2010.09.18} (¥4.800) - 4.910 / 5.295.605 (-16%)
23./19. [PSP] Taiko Drum Master Portable DX <ACT> (Bandai Namco) {2011.07.14} (¥5.229) - 4.854 / 231.636 (-26%)
24./15. [PSP] Toriko: Gourmet Survival <ACT> (Bandai Namco) {2011.08.04} (¥5.229) - 4.842 / 118.109 (-37%)
25./16. [PSP] J-League Pro Soccer Club! 7: Euro + <SPT> (Sega) {2011.08.04} (¥6.279) - 4.734 / 156.668 (-38%)
26./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops - Subtitled Edition (Reprint) <ACT> (Square Enix) {2011.09.01} (¥3.990) - 4.502 / NEW
27./22. [NDS] All Kamen Rider: Rider Generation <ACT> (Bandai Namco) {2011.08.04} (¥5.040) - 4.430 / 83.591 (-26%)
28./20. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2011 <SPT> (Konami) {2011.07.14} (¥5.250) - 4.362 / 165.175 (-30%)
29./00. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP <ADV> (Bandai Namco) {2011.05.26} (¥6.090) - 4.262 / 163.770 (+7%)
30./00. [PSP] Little Battler Xperience <RPG> (Level 5) {2011.06.16} (¥5.980) - 3.892 / 295.292 (-8%)

Top 30

PSP - 12
3DS - 5
NDS - 4
PS3 - 4
WII - 4
360 - 1

SOFTWARE

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |
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|  PSP  |      35,4% |      34,5% |      35,3% |
|  PS3  |      23,0% |      38,7% |      11,2% |
|  WII  |      13,3% |       8,8% |      25,7% |
|  NDS  |      13,1% |      10,0% |      24,4% |
|  3DS  |      12,7% |       7,2% |       0,0% |
|  360  |       2,1% |       0,7% |       1,8% |
|  PS2  |       0,2% |       0,1% |       1,5% |
|  OTH  |       0,1% |       0,1% |       0,1% |
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HARDWARE

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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|  3DS  |     55.264 |     57.927 |            |  1.741.979 |            |   1.741.979 |
|  PS3  |     32.969 |     32.235 |     19.848 |    861.033 |  1.093.839 |   6.810.920 |
| PSP # |     28.921 |     32.066 |     35.793 |  1.391.492 |  1.592.954 |  17.668.423 |
|  WII  |      9.931 |     10.479 |     16.846 |    558.095 |  1.138.633 |  11.788.387 |
| NDS # |      3.205 |      3.710 |     35.500 |    675.896 |  1.841.967 |  32.800.194 |
|  PS2  |        964 |      1.028 |      1.624 |     45.494 |     68.805 |  21.941.405 |
|  360  |        830 |        938 |      1.789 |     83.786 |    154.627 |   1.490.449 |
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|  ALL  |    132.084 |    138.383 |    111.400 |  5.357.775 |  5.890.825 |  94.241.757 |
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|  DSi  |      3.108 |      3.580 |     31.591 |    649.269 |  1.682.837 |   8.210.142 |
|  DSL  |         97 |        130 |      3.909 |     26.627 |    159.130 |  18.140.846 |
| PSPgo |         34 |         49 |        677 |     19.995 |     46.741 |     160.447 |
|  PSP  |     28.887 |     32.017 |     35.116 |  1.371.497 |  1.546.213 |  17.507.976 |
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Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2011 (Sep 05 - Sep 11)

21./19. [PSP] Taiko Drum Master Portable DX <ACT> (Bandai Namco) {2011.07.14} (¥5.229)
22./20. [NDS] Sweet PreCure: Melody Collection <ETC> (Bandai Namco) {2011.08.25} (¥5.040)
23./14. [PSP] Black Rock Shooter: The Game # <RPG> (Image Epoch) {2011.08.25} (¥6.279)
24./22. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2010.09.18} (¥4.800)
25./21. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends <ETC> (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} (¥4.800)
26./05. [3DS] Devil Survivor: Over Clock <RPG> (Atlus Co.) {2011.09.01} (¥6.279)
27./26. [PSP] Little Battler Xperience <RPG> (Level 5) {2011.06.16} (¥5.980)
28./18. [PSP] Toriko: Gourmet Survival <ACT> (Bandai Namco) {2011.08.04} (¥5.229)
29./23. [WII] Inazuma Eleven Strikers <SPT> (Level 5) {2011.07.16} (¥5.980)
30./28. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP <ADV> (Bandai Namco) {2011.05.26} (¥6.090)
31./36. [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 (2nd Reprint) <ACT> (Square Enix) {2011.09.01} (¥2.940)
32./25. [WII] Wii Party <ETC> (Nintendo) {2010.07.08} (¥4.800)
33./35. [WII] Mario Kart Wii <RCE> (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} (¥5.800)
34./07. [PSP] Corpse Party: Book of Shadows # <ADV> (5pb.) {2011.09.01} (¥6.090)
35./32. [NDS] Puyo Puyo! 20th Anniversary # <PZL> (Sega) {2011.07.14} (¥5.040)
36./24. [PSP] J-League Pro Soccer Club! 7: Euro + <SPT> (Sega) {2011.08.04} (¥6.279)
37./27. [WII] Wii Play: Motion <ETC> (Nintendo) {2011.07.07} (¥4.800)
38./31. [NDS] All Kamen Rider: Rider Generation <ACT> (Bandai Namco) {2011.08.04} (¥5.040)
39./29. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2011 <SPT> (Konami) {2011.07.14} (¥5.250)
40./43. [PSP] Steins;Gate # <ADV> (Kadokawa Shoten) {2011.06.23} (¥6.090)
41./33. [WII] Epic Mickey <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.08.04} (¥5.800)
42./38. [WII] Wii Fit Plus <HOB> (Nintendo) {2009.10.01} (¥2.000)
43./39. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2009.12.03} (¥5.800)
44./34. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 <ACT> (Capcom) {2010.12.01} (¥5.800)
45./45. [PS3] Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (PlayStation 3 the Best) <ADV> (SCE) {2011.08.25} (¥2.980)
46./00. [360] Rise of Nightmares <ADV> (Sega) {2011.09.08} (¥7.329)
47./00. [PS3] Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition (PlayStation 3 the Best) <ADV> (Capcom) {2010.11.11} (¥2.990)
48./41. [PSP] Persona 3 Portable (PSP the Best) <RPG> (Atlus Co.) {2011.08.25} (¥2.940)
49./42. [3DS] Star Fox 64 3D <STG> (Nintendo) {2011.07.14} (¥4.800)
50./40. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2011 <SPT> (Konami) {2011.07.14} (¥6.980)

Top 50

PSP - 15
PS3 - 11
WII - 11
3DS - 6
NDS - 5
360 - 2

SOFTWARE

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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|  ALL  |  1.155.000 |    707.000 |    678.266 | 30.609.000 | 37.429.874 |
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[JoshuaJSlone]

Have a look at the list JoshuaJSlone posted. Most games on that list that aren't Pokemon, MonHun or Mario, did not double their first week sales, and many of the games around 500-600 didn't reach a million. Also the games with higher openings traditionally has worse legs.

I actually do have a software group specifically listing games that had openings greater than 500K and failed to reach a million. Created due to question over whether Monster Hunter Tri would make it, but since it has I really should kick it out of the group. It's a pretty small list, but I do think Xillia will join.

 

[Chris1964]

SOFTWARE

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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|  ALL  |  1.155.000 |    707.000 |    678.266 | 30.609.000 | 37.429.874 |
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You see this and think software recovered a bit these last weeks but then you see next week and know you are very wrong.

 

[Chris1964]

First day sales reports from retailers.

Good start for DQ Collection, get6-2 estimates >100k first day.

Totally anecdotal but at azalyn's store there is rise of 3DS hw sales because of MH announcements (but again totally expected since BurntPork predicted 25k for October, ahaha)

 

[walking fiend]

First day sales reports from retailers.

Good start for DQ Collection, get6-2 estimates >100k first day.

Totally anecdotal but at azalyn's store there is rise of 3DS hw sales because of MH announcements (but again totally expected since BurntPork predicted 25k for October, ahaha)

Yeah, people reported it rising on Amazon as well (Red is limited availability at 18,000 yen now)
(I am really glad that I joined the thread almost along with BurntPork and that he managed to get his member status before being banned. He is just so fuckingly awesome randomly nuts, I really like the dude and hope he stays around)

 

[Souldriver]

BurntPork is banned? Why? Also part of the pre-emptive ban wave to prevent meltdowns during TGS?

 

[perfectchaos007]

If people are buying on the assumption of MH4, why not wait until MH4 comes out so you can get the inevitable MH4 3DS limited edition bundle?

 

[[Nintex]]

BurntPork is banned? Why? Also part of the pre-emptive ban wave to prevent meltdowns during TGS?

I think he ran out of fuel.

 

[Chris1964]

He is not banned.

If people are buying on the assumption of MH4, why not wait until MH4 comes out so you can get the inevitable MH4 3DS limited edition bundle?

Wait 2 more years then?

 

[Stumpokapow]

I actually do have a software group specifically listing games that had openings greater than 500K and failed to reach a million. Created due to question over whether Monster Hunter Tri would make it, but since it has I really should kick it out of the group. It's a pretty small list, but I do think Xillia will join.

You might want to remove Tri from the group since it sailed past a million in the end

 

[Fantastical]

BurntPork is banned? Why? Also part of the pre-emptive ban wave to prevent meltdowns during TGS?

I think he was referencing the fact that it is inevitable that he will banned. Maybe after the 3DS starts doing better he'll calm down.

 

[Lord_Byron28]

(I am really glad that I joined the thread almost along with BurntPork and that he managed to get his member status before being banned. He is just so fuckingly awesome randomly nuts, I really like the dude and hope he stays around)

He isn't banned. He has a different avatar and has been speaking reasonably since the Nintendo Conference. Maybe that's why it's hard to recognize him.

 

[TheNatural]

Since this definetely got lost it's a better place here and shows Nintendo's expectations for December titles.


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=444938

I can't understand what it's saying, outside of the "France does not give up" comment, but I'll refrain from a joke there.

Is it saying there's going to be other bundles this fall or something?

Last year there was a Red New Super Mario Bros Wii bundle, and it sold great for the 25th Anniversary. I figured this year they would do something similar for Zelda, it's the 25th Anniversary and there should be a Zelda related bundle, but it doesn't sound like they're doing anything with that. Also there's a problem, there's only been one other LoZ game on Wii and it was a launch title that is only $20. Not exactly a major deal to pack that in now, and would be worse than the Mario Kart Wii bundle.

I wonder if they have something in the works, like a special edition disc of some kind and a Gold Wii console. I think they'll just end up throwing together something like Smash Bros and Wii Play Motion in a bundle though.

 

[Lord_Byron28]

I can't understand what it's saying, outside of the "France does not give up" comment, but I'll refrain from a joke there.

Is it saying there's going to be other bundles this fall or something?

Last year there was a Red New Super Mario Bros Wii bundle, and it sold great for the 25th Anniversary. I figured this year they would do something similar for Zelda, it's the 25th Anniversary and there should be a Zelda related bundle, but it doesn't sound like they're doing anything with that. Also there's a problem, there's only been one other LoZ game on Wii and it was a launch title that is only $20. Not exactly a major deal to pack that in now, and would be worse than the Mario Kart Wii bundle.

I wonder if they have something in the works, like a special edition disc of some kind and a Gold Wii console. I think they'll just end up throwing together something like Smash Bros and Wii Play Motion in a bundle though.

I think it's talking about bundles, the slightly redesigned Wii and the upcoming software.

 

[allan-bh]

Also, PS3 White 160GB sold 10k.

 

[Chris1964]

I can't understand what it's saying, outside of the "France does not give up" comment, but I'll refrain from a joke there.

Is it saying there's going to be other bundles this fall or something?

5 new Wii bundles, one is sure to include the redesigned model, possibly new colors and initial shipments for the bundles and upcoming games.

 

[beril]

I can't understand what it's saying, outside of the "France does not give up" comment, but I'll refrain from a joke there.

Is it saying there's going to be other bundles this fall or something?

Last year there was a Red New Super Mario Bros Wii bundle, and it sold great for the 25th Anniversary. I figured this year they would do something similar for Zelda, it's the 25th Anniversary and there should be a Zelda related bundle, but it doesn't sound like they're doing anything with that. Also there's a problem, there's only been one other LoZ game on Wii and it was a launch title that is only $20. Not exactly a major deal to pack that in now, and would be worse than the Mario Kart Wii bundle.

I wonder if they have something in the works, like a special edition disc of some kind and a Gold Wii console. I think they'll just end up throwing together something like Smash Bros and Wii Play Motion in a bundle though.

I doubt there will be a Zelda bundle. They've already talked a lot about the anniversary so I wouldn't expect anything more than what they've already announced. It's probably a bunch of different bundles for the family edition with different sets of games.

 

[walking fiend]

5 new Wii bundles, one is sure to include the redesigned model, possibly new colors and initial shipments for upcoming games.

OK, so that basically means they want to seal the deal of the 4th quarter again.
Is Wii U still scheduled for 2012?

I doubt there will be a Zelda bundle. They've already talked a lot about the anniversary so I wouldn't expect anything more than what they've already announced. It's probably a bunch of different bundles for the family edition with different sets of games.

I think they may go for that still. SS, from what has been shown, seems to be the most gigantic game Nintendo has been working on recently, just maybe bar SMG, and they know that it has a lot of potential and they are going to squeeze every bit of this potential.

I think he was referencing the fact that it is inevitable that he will banned. Maybe after the 3DS starts doing better he'll calm down.

I think I chose my wording too dramatic ) The fact that he got past the junior status was only short of a miracle, everyone one was whining about him, and I am really happy mods didn't listen to them. He isn't a troll and he isn't stupid either, he just takes imaginative situations that will lead to inevitable meltdown and discuss them as if they are facts. Still, I think he has a very likable personality.

He isn't banned. He has a different avatar and has been speaking reasonably since the Nintendo Conference. Maybe that's why it's hard to recognize him.

I actually quoted him once without knowing it was him, i felt bad, I want his avatar back

 

[matmanx1]

It's difficult to imagine any scenario in which ToX doesn't sell at least 750k lifetime. Beyond that is sort of uncharted territory for PS3 games though because so few have have managed it in Japan. We're talking about a userbase of only 7 million in so getting above that 750k number requires some impressive software penetration.

 

[Mpl90]

First day sales reports from retailers.

Good start for DQ Collection, get6-2 estimates >100k first day.

Totally anecdotal but at azalyn's store there is rise of 3DS hw sales because of MH announcements (but again totally expected since BurntPork predicted 25k for October, ahaha)

As said by walking field, 3DS saw a considerable rise on Amazon, and now also the blue model is sold out.
But I still believe that we'll not see any effect of this 3DS surge in actual sales.
Azalyn's store is frequented by ""core-gamers"", as we can see with the not-so-high sales of Nintendo games in comparison with some games on Sony consoles... and this audience followed what happened in the last days.
Amazon is a sort of a mix between casual and core audience.
But the mass market still don't know about this games.
And, above all, it has never happened that a console saw an increase due to a big announcement.
...But it's also true that it seems MH3G ads already started...
Well, I think the highest result 3DS can do next week is staying still at 50k
If it rises at...something like 55k, then I'll believe that announcements can boost sales.

 

[TheNatural]

I doubt there will be a Zelda bundle. They've already talked a lot about the anniversary so I wouldn't expect anything more than what they've already announced. It's probably a bunch of different bundles for the family edition with different sets of games.

Well they've already used their two big bundle options in NSMB and Mario Kart. Those are the Wii's top selling games. After that it's Smash Bros so I guess they could go with that in a bundle, but it's not providing any more value over the Mario Kart bundle that fell to third last month, its just ... a different game.

I was thinking something like this:

Except with like those New Play Control games where you can use the Wii Remote to play. Wind Waker and the Four Swords Gamecube game with Wii controls, and some small updates, I could see them putting together. They didn't announce the Wii bundle of last year until late October, or the US date of the Mario All Stars edition until almost November, so we'll see what they do. They should really be trying to push Zelda this year though to be bought with new Wii's, no matter how "dead" the Wii is.

 

[beril]

As said by walking field, 3DS saw a considerable rise on Amazon, and now also the blue model is sold out.
But I still believe that we'll not see any effect of this 3DS surge in actual sales.
Azalyn's store is frequented by ""core-gamers"", as we can see with the not-so-high sales of Nintendo games in comparison with some games on Sony consoles... and this audience followed what happened in the last days.
Amazon is a sort of a mix between casual and core audience.
But the mass market still don't know about this games.
And, above all, it has never happened that a console saw an increase due to a big announcement.
...But it's also true that it seems MH3G ads already started...
Well, I think the highest result 3DS can do next week is staying still at 50k
If it rises at...something like 55k, then I'll believe that announcements can boost sales.

It'll definitely be interesting to see if it has any effect. This isn't just any announcement. Announcing one of the biggest games of the year less than three months in advance is pretty insane even by Nintendo standards, and then to immidiatly start running ads for it is another pretty unique approach. I think a lot of people who're already temped might decide to pick it up when they find out MH is coming in a few months. To expect a big hardware bump is still a bit optimistic, but who knows

 

[Xena]

Just going with the period of history in Garaph, first weeks over 500K include multiples from these series:

(...)
Winning Eleven
(...)

Wow, I didn't know PES sold this nice numbers. How is it the "fight" in Japan over FIFA and WE? Which one usually sells better?

 

[Lord_Byron28]

...But it's also true that it seems MH3G ads already started...
Well, I think the highest result 3DS can do next week is staying still at 50k
If it rises at...something like 55k, then I'll believe that announcements can boost sales.

I don't think anouncements can boost sales(at least significantly). I think it's the MH Tri G ads that are encouraging people to purchase one but I don't think it will be anymore than a 5K boost.

 

[Alrus]

I don't think anouncements can boost sales(at least significantly). I think it's the MH Tri G ads that are encouraging people to purchase one but I don't think it will be anymore than a 5K boost.

Getting a 5k boost out of an announcement, even something as big as MH would be pretty impressive. I don't think it will have much effect though.

What kind of ads are we talking about anyway? I mean it's pretty obvious Tri G will be massively advertised close to release date but starting so early feels a bit weird.

 

[Busaiku]

Wow, I didn't know PES sold this nice numbers. How is it the "fight" in Japan over FIFA and WE? Which one usually sells better?

It's not even a contest.
Winning Eleven runs absolute circles around FIFA.

The latest FIFA titles barely passed 10k.

 

[Lord_Byron28]

Getting a 5k boost out of an announcement, even something as big as MH would be pretty impressive. I don't think it will have much effect though.

What kind of ads are we talking about anyway? I mean it's pretty obvious Tri G will be massively advertised close to release date but starting so early feels a bit weird.

They are advertising(commercials) MH Tri G and frankenstick coming to 3DS this holiday season. It's not any weirder than a month or more ago when NoA started doing commercials for Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart several months before they release.


Again, as I said it's different. I doubt it made a significant increase because they anounced it at the Nintendo conference because sometimes anouncements fall through and most of the general public doesn't pay attention to these things anyway. However, when they are seeing commercials for the product it's different.

 

[beril]

Wow, I didn't know PES sold this nice numbers. How is it the "fight" in Japan over FIFA and WE? Which one usually sells better?

Western game vs Japanese game; do you even need to ask?

top selling FIFA:
1 PS2 2000-05-25 FIFA Soccer World Championship 252,358
2 PS2 2002-05-02 2002 FIFA World Cup 143,122
3 PS2 2002-05-30 Then you have the FIFA World Cup project team coach 106,139
4 PS2 2004-12-09 FIFA Total Football 2 84,371

top selling PES
1 PS2 2002-04-25 World Soccer Winning Eleven 6 1,115,707
2 PS2 2003-08-07 World Soccer Winning Eleven 7 1,085,082
3 PS2 2004-08-05 World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 1,059,585
4 PS2 2006-04-27 World Soccer Winning Eleven 10 1,050,236

 

[thestopsign]

Getting a 5k boost out of an announcement, even something as big as MH would be pretty impressive. I don't think it will have much effect though.

What kind of ads are we talking about anyway? I mean it's pretty obvious Tri G will be massively advertised close to release date but starting so early feels a bit weird.

I think the best thing that comes from this announcement is really positive press and advertisement of the system. It won't give it much of a bump, but it might get it out into the public more and keep sales from declining from the current level as we head into the holiday season.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

Zelda doesn't matter. Wii will get a new holiday bundle (and color?) for Dragon Quest's 25th Anniversary.

 

[Road]

Dengeki Sales, Set 05 - 11, 2011 (week 37)

01. (__) [PS3] Tales of Xillia (Bandai Namco) - 510,399 / 510,399
02. (__) [PS3] Resident Evil: Revival Selection (Capcom) - 76,382 / 76,382 [ST: ~65% => 118,000]
03. (01) [PSP] Grand Knights History (Marvelous Entertainment) - 20,867 / 87,302 (-69%)
04. (02) [PS3] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 HD Ver. (Capcom) - 20,771 / 394,270 (-64%)
05. (__) [PS3] Resistance 3 (SCE) - 17,539 / 17,539
06. (__) [WII] Super Sentai Battle: Ranger Cross (Bandai Namco) - 17,017 / 17,017
07. (03) [WII] Rhythm Heaven (Nintendo) - 16,720 / 450,679 (-33%)
08. (__) [PS3] Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds [PlayStation 3 the Best Reprint] (SCE) - 13,431 / 13,431
09. (05) [NDS] Kirby Mass Attack (Nintendo) - 11,928 / 215,551 (-32%)
10. (12) [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 11,440 / 2,566,775 (-8%)
11. (13) [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo) - 9,482 / 370,921 (-23%)
12. (04) [PS3] Samurai Warriors 3: Empires (Koei Tecmo) - 9,340 / 96,551 (-54%)
13. (09) [3DS] Pokemon Rumble Blast (Pokemon Co.) - 9,212 / 163,245 (-38%)
14. (11) [PSP] Dynasty Warriors 7: Special (Koei Tecmo) - 7,205 / 46,978 (-44%)
15. (14) [PSP] Monster Hunter Diary: Poka Poka Airu Village G (Capcom) - 7,139 / 178,992 (-38%)
16. (__) [360] Resident Evil: Revival Selection (Capcom) - 6,607 / 6,607
17. (07) [PSP] Mobile Suit Gundam: New Gihren's Ambition (Bandai Namco) - 6,028 / 98,953 (-62%)
18. (19) [PSP] Taiko Drum Master Portable DX (Bandai Namco) - 5,947 / 208,062 (-3%)
19. (83) [WII] Family Fishing (Bandai Namco) - 5,867 / ?
20. (15) [PS3] Call of Duty: Black Ops - Dubbed Edition [Reprint] (Square Enix) - 5,582 / 13,795 (-32%)

*ST: Sell-through => estimated copies shipped.

Xillia sell-through is between 80% and 85%.


Other software (first week / LTD):

2009-12-17 [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix) - 1,456,000 / 1,906,000
2005-12-15 [PS2] Tales of the Abyss [all prices] (Namco) - 353,000 / 742,000
2009-09-17 [PS3] Tales of Vesperia (Bandai Namco) - 226,000 / 407,000
2010-12-02 [PS3] Tales of Graces F (Bandai Namco) - 224,000 / 363,000


http://megalodon.jp/2011-0916-1912-58/news.dengeki.com/soft/ranking/ranking.html
http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/407/407005/

Week 36: 08-29~09-04