I still think PSO2 is heading to the PS4, seing how PS4 has some F2P games in the West. Maybe SEGA and Sony have make a deal about helping localizing both games in the West (probably no/later PC release then) and some advertising.
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Media Create Sales: Week 36, 2013 (Sep 02 - Sep 08)
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I still think PSO2 is heading to the PS4, seing how PS4 has some F2P games in the West. Maybe SEGA and Sony have make a deal about helping localizing both games in the West (probably no/later PC release then) and some advertising.
Aquamarine
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[B]DENGEKI TOP 50 SOFTWARE SALES
Week 36, 2013 (Sep 02 - Sep 08)[/B]
[U][B]RANK/L.WK TITLE PUBLISHER RELEASE SALES LTD[/B][/U]
[b]1/- PSP Uta no Prince-Sama: Music 2 Broccoli 13/09/05 63,486 63,486[/b]
2/1 PS3 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle Bandai Namco Games 13/08/29 26,753 412,759
[b]3/- PS3 Splinter Cell: Blacklist Ubisoft 13/09/05 22,569 22,569[/b]
[b]4/- PS3 Dead or Alive 5: Ultimate Koei Tecmo 13/09/05 18,547 18,547[/b]
5/2 PS3 Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Real Reborn Square Enix 13/08/27 16,094 197,500
[b]6/- Vita Killzone: Mercenary SCE 13/09/05 12,975 12,975[/b]
7/5 3DS Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life Bandai Namco Games 13/08/01 11,837 252,079
8/6 3DS Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Nintendo 13/07/18 11,372 302,207
9/8 3DS Friend Collection: New Life Nintendo 13/04/18 10,094 1,427,407
10/3 Vita Ragnarok Odyssey Ace GungHo Online Entmt. 13/08/29 10,088 44,959
[b]11/- PS3 Puppeteer SCE 13/09/05 8,794 8,794[/b]
12/9 3DS Youkai Watch Level 5 13/07/11 8,122 167,507
[b]13/- PSP Kiyoka no Ori: Hiiro no Kakera 4 - Shiki no Shi Idea Factory 13/09/05 7,650 7,650[/b]
14/10 3DS Animal Crossing: New Leaf Nintendo 12/11/08 7,600 3,348,177
15/4 PS3 Lost Planet 3 Capcom 13/08/29 6,294 34,347
16/12 3DS Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon Nintendo 13/03/20 4,844 888,310
[b]17/- X360 Splinter Cell: Blacklist Ubisoft 13/09/05 4,170 4,170[/b]
[b]18/- PS3 Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Dubbed (Bargain Edition) Square Enix 13/09/05 3,693 3,693[/b]
19/17 3DS Mario Kart 7 Nintendo 11/12/01 3,689 2,075,441
[b]20/- X360 Dead or Alive 5: Ultimate Koei Tecmo 13/09/05 3,650 3,650[/b]
21/20 Wii Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition Bandai Namco Games 12/11/29 3,494 548,872
22/14 Wii U Pikmin 3 Nintendo 13/07/13 3,478 190,219
23/18 3DS Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D Nintendo 13/06/13 3,328 266,167
[b]24/- PS3 Farming Simulator Russell 13/09/05 2,994 2,994[/b]
25/19 3DS New Super Mario Bros. 2 Nintendo 12/07/28 2,959 2,010,052
[b]26/- PSP Kisaragi Gold Star: Nonstop Go Go!! Piacci 13/09/05 2,938 2,938[/b]
27/16 3DS Fantasy Life: Link! Level 5 13/07/25 2,928 59,094
28/15 3DS One Piece: Romance Dawn - Bouken no Yoake Bandai Namco Games 13/08/08 2,656 51,695
29/31 3DS Taiko no Tatsujin: Chibi Dragon to Fushigi na Orb Bandai Namco Games 12/07/12 2,519 516,650
30/22 3DS Danball Senki eXperience W: Ultra Custom Level 5 13/07/18 2,428 71,450
31/26 3DS Hoppechan: Tsukutte! Asonde! Punipuni Town!! Nippon Columbia 13/07/25 2,417 37,185
32/7 PSP Saki: Achiga-Hen Episode of Side-A Portable Alchemist 13/08/29 2,412 17,177
33/21 3DS Ace Attorney 5 Capcom 13/07/25 2,359 333,417
34/25 Wii U New Super Luigi U Nintendo 13/07/13 2,356 70,958
35/13 Vita Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu Spike Chunsoft 13/08/22 2,303 25,679
36/11 PS3 Super Robot Wars OG Saga: Masou Kishin III - Pride of Justice Bandai Namco Games 13/08/22 2,200 51,671
[b]37/- 3DS Elminage Gothic 3D Remix: Ulm Zakir to Yami no Gishiki Starfish SD 13/09/05 2,113 2,113[/b]
38/34 3DS Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission Bandai Namco Games 13/02/28 2,100 245,223
39/37 3DS Pokémon Torretta Lab for Nintendo 3DS Takara Tomy 13/08/10 2,039 34,683
40/33 PSP Dangan-Ronpa (PSP the Best) Spike Chunsoft 11/11/23 1,960 101,520
41/27 PS3 Earth Defense Force 2025 D3 Publisher 13/07/04 1,929 244,072
42/38 PS3 The Last of Us SCE 13/06/20 1,850 201,438
43/40 3DS Kuma-Tomo Bandai Namco Games 13/06/20 1,778 48,370
[b]44/- PS3 Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Subtitled (Bargain Edition) Square Enix 13/09/05 1,713 1,713[/b]
45/35 Wii U LEGO City Undercover Nintendo 13/07/25 1,672 41,239
46/59 3DS Professor Layton and the Azran Legacy Level 5 13/02/28 1,611 251,057
47/44 3DS Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger: Game de Kaburincho!! Bandai Namco Games 13/08/08 1,578 18,234
48/43 Wii U New Super Mario Bros. U Nintendo 12/12/08 1,572 561,241
49/41 PSP God Eater: Burst (PSP the Best Reprint) Bandai Namco Games 13/06/06 1,570 23,097
50/50 3DS Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-Tachi Kara Nigekire! Bandai Namco Games 12/07/05 1,494 545,776Top 50
3DS - 22
PS3 - 12
PSP - 6
WIU - 4
PSV - 3
360 - 2
WII - 1
New releases not present in the Top 50:
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[B][PSV] Call of Duty: Black Ops - Declassified (Bargain Edition)
[WIU] Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist
[WIU] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Dubbed (Bargain Edition)
[PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Dubbed (New Price Edition)
[PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Subtitled (New Price Edition)
[PS3] Moe Moe: Modern Warfare++ (SystemSoft Selection)
[360] Farming Simulator
[360] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Dubbed (Bargain Edition)
[360] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Subtitled (Bargain Edition)
[360] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Dubbed (New Price Edition)
[360] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Subtitled (New Price Edition)[/B]Sell-through Figures
Uta no Prince-sama: Music 2 - 70%
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[B]DENGEKI TOP 3 SOFTWARE SALES PER PLATFORM
Week 36, 2013 (Sep 02 - Sep 08)[/B]
[U][B]RANK TITLE PUBLISHER RELEASE SALES LTD[/B][/U]
[B]PS3 Top 3[/B]
1 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All-Star Battle Bandai Namco Games 13/08/29 26,753 412,759
[b]2 Splinter Cell: Blacklist Ubisoft 13/09/05 22,569 22,569
3 Dead or Alive 5: Ultimate Koei Tecmo 13/09/05 18,547 18,547[/b]
[B]PSV Top 3[/B]
[b]1 Killzone: Mercenary SCE 13/09/05 12,975 12,975[/b]
2 Ragnarok Odyssey Ace GungHo Online Entmt. 13/08/29 5,944 44,959
3 Conception II: Shichisei no Michibiki to Mazuru no Akumu Spike Chunsoft 13/08/22 2,303 25,679
[B]PSP Top 3[/B]
[b]1 Uta no Prince-Sama: Music 2 Broccoli 13/09/05 63,486 63,486
2 Kiyoka no Ori: Hiiro no Kakera 4 - Shiki no Shi Idea Factory 13/09/05 7,650 7,650
3 Kisaragi Gold Star: Nonstop Go Go!! Piacci 13/09/05 2,938 2,938[/b]
[B]WIU Top 3[/B]
1 Pikmin 3 Nintendo 13/07/13 3,478 190,219
2 New Super Luigi U Nintendo 13/07/13 2,356 70,958
3 LEGO City Undercover Nintendo 13/07/25 1,672 41,239
[B]WII Top 3[/B]
1 Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Super Deluxe Edition Bandai Namco Games 12/11/29 3,494 548,872
2 Super Smash Bros. Brawl Nintendo 08/01/31 1,128 2,418,593
3 Mario Kart Wii Nintendo 08/04/10 944 3,590,255
[B]3DS Top 3[/B]
1 Disney Magic Castle: My Happy Life Bandai Namco Games 13/08/01 11,837 252,079
2 Mario & Luigi: Dream Team Nintendo 13/07/18 11,372 302,207
3 Friend Collection: New Life Nintendo 13/04/18 10,094 1,427,407
[B]NDS Top 3[/B]
1 Pokémon Black 2 Pokémon Co. 12/06/23 906 1,620,422
2 Pokémon White 2 Pokémon Co. 12/06/23 647 1,418,505
3 Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Ultimate Hits) Square Enix 10/03/04 320 189,816
[B]360 Top 3[/B]
[b]1 Splinter Cell: Blacklist Ubisoft 13/09/05 4,170 4,170
2 Dead or Alive 5: Ultimate Koei Tecmo 13/09/05 3,650 3,650
3 Farming Simulator Russell 13/09/05 450 450[/b]
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[B]DENGEKI TOTAL HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE SALES
Week 36, 2013 (Sep 02 - Sep 08)[/B]
[U][B]SYSTEM SALES SALES(%) L.WEEK L.WEEK(%) FY 2013 SALES FY 2013(%) FY 2013(L.WK %)[/B][/U]
[B]SOFTWARE SALES:[/B]
PS3 153,702 32.7% 654,002 66.5% 4,093,708 28.0% 27.8%
Vita 38,300 8.2% 60,722 6.2% 1,115,574 7.6% 7.6%
PSP 106,916 22.8% 55,091 5.6% 1,781,881 12.2% 11.8%
Wii U 15,171 3.2% 20,424 2.1% 569,965 3.9% 3.9%
Wii 14,519 3.1% 17,510 1.8% 475,493 3.2% 3.3%
3DS 123,213 26.2% 162,212 16.5% 6,192,787 42.3% 42.9%
DS 6,988 1.5% 7,743 0.8% 210,586 1.4% 1.4%
X360 10,747 2.3% 5,578 0.6% 191,688 1.3% 1.3%
Total 469,556 100.0% 983,282 100.0% 14,631,682 100.0% 100.0%
[B]HARDWARE SALES:[/B]
PS3 11,928 11.3% 19,680 19.1% 291,669 13.1% 13.2%
Vita 7,873 7.4% 9,600 9.3% 328,145 14.7% 15.1%
PSP 4,869 4.6% 5,429 5.3% 145,845 6.5% 6.6%
Wii U 5,878 5.5% 7,073 6.9% 213,339 9.6% 9.8%
Wii 864 0.8% 943 0.9% 27,806 1.2% 1.3%
3DS LL 57,907 54.6% 44,103 42.8% 846,676 37.9% 37.1%
3DS 16,370 15.4% 16,049 15.6% 369,917 16.6% 16.6%
X360 289 0.3% 206 0.2% 8,935 0.4% 0.4%
Total 105,978 100.0% 103,083 100.0% 2,232,332 100.0% 100.0%
[B]*Note: FY 2013 refers to the period from April 2013 through March 2014[/B]For the people who aren't regulars in Media Create threads:
What is Dengeki?
Dengeki is a website (it's also a brand of magazines / a book and manga imprint) that publishes sell-through Japanese sales data from ASCII Media Works, Inc. Every week they publish a nationwide snapshot of Japanese video game sales with the cooperation of more than 3,000 specialty game stores and convenience store chains all across Japan.
Why post Dengeki numbers when you have Media Create / Famitsu in the OP?
Among other reasons, Dengeki gives us sales numbers for titles that are too low to debut with numbers on Media Create / Famitsu. So, their liberal reporting allows us to track sales that we wouldn't be able to otherwise.
Is Dengeki less accurate than Media Create / Famitsu?
No. All three trackers are inherently trustworthy. However, they have quirks that make some people prefer one over the other:
Media Create:
+ Nationwide Japanese sales data from Media Create Co., Ltd.
+ Cooperation of more than 3,000 retail stores / chains nationwide (57% of the market)
+ Top 20 software sales with numbers
+ Top 50 software sales without numbers
+ Total hardware sales per platform
+ Sometimes presents sell-through figures
+ Releases first (at the same time as Famitsu)
+ Nintendo uses these numbers in their investor presentations
+ Distinguishes between 3DS and 3DS LL
- Does not track download cards
- Does not provide software sales figures past the Top 20
Famitsu:
+ Nationwide Japanese sales data from Enterbrain, Inc.
+ Cooperation of about 3,600 retail stores / chains nationwide
+ Top 30 software sales with numbers
+ Total hardware sales per platform
+ Sell-through ranges for all titles
+ Has the most historical data available for GAFfers
+ Tracks download cards
+ Releases first (at the same time as Media Create)
- Does not distinguish between 3DS and 3DS LL
- Does not report total software sales
Dengeki:
+ Nationwide Japanese sales data from ASCII Media Works, Inc.
+ Cooperation of more than 3,000 retail stores / chains nationwide
+ Top 50 software sales with numbers
+ Top 3 software sales per platform
+ Total software sales per platform
+ Total hardware sales per platform
+ Sell-through figures for a few titles
+ Distinguishes between 3DS and 3DS LL
- Inconsistent data reporting over the years
- Does not track download cards
- Releases nearly 24 hours after Media Create / Famitsu
Dengeki Historical Sales Archive
2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 2013
(A very special thanks to Road for making this archive possible)
Last Week's Sales Figures (Week 35, 2013, Aug 26 - Sep 01)
Aquamarine
Member
[PS3] Splinter Cell: Blacklist - 22,569 units
[360] Splinter Cell: Blacklist - 4,170 units
[WIU] Splinter Cell: Blacklist - <1,494 units
[360] Splinter Cell: Blacklist - 4,170 units
[WIU] Splinter Cell: Blacklist - <1,494 units
DarkLordMalik
Member
At least, this one sold more than 10 copies. Getting beat by 360 is shameful though. I reckon RE: Revelations HD sold better on Wii U than 360 in Japan.
pieatorium
Member
it could have sold 10 who knows, the 1494 is just where the top 50 ends
Between this and the UK sales (1% or <200 units), Ubi must be really glad they bothered.
What is there not to understand? Don't tell me you were expecting it to sell well?
Also, 3DS is up. The wait for those killer apps must be getting out of hand.
Glass Rebel
Member
Why the big difference between PS3 and 360?
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
It's the XBOX360 in Japan.
Sony, arguably, are proving themselves unable to support two consoles. If they can't, I'm really not convinced there's a way that Nintendo can unless they expand massively.
Vintage_Creep
Banned
Honey Bunny
Member
Alcohol. Right before the contracts were signed.
pieatorium
Member
there supporting the ps3 and 4 pretty well
It's not late for the party. You are invited next week.
Yeah, I realized that as soon as I posted. I am retard.
Oh, my bad. Makes sense.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
You mean three consoles.
this game is already out
Father_Brain
Banned
Andrew House: Vita TV is intended as a competitor to existing set-top boxes, aimed at casuals and families, not core gamers.
...huh. Well, maybe the sales figures will surprise me, and either way, it's fair to say that this doesn't cost Sony a lot in terms of additional R&D or manufacturing.
Andrew House said:
...huh. Well, maybe the sales figures will surprise me, and either way, it's fair to say that this doesn't cost Sony a lot in terms of additional R&D or manufacturing.
That's why it'll be a good idea for Nintendo to put the WiiU's "insides" to good use in the future and not dismiss it like they did with the Wii & WiiMote.
Yeah, its not only the console itself that is cheap but the games as well considering the wide range you can choose from.
Makes it a pretty cheap console to own from the hardware to the software.
$100
Aquamarine
Member
That's the issue with Splinter Cell selling so poorly on the Wii U.
First, let's operate under the assumption that PS3 / 360 / Wii U sales for Splinter Cell: Blacklist represent the theoretical maximum.
So:
PS3 - 22,569
360 - 4,170
WIU - 1,493
Total - 28,232
In this absolute best case scenario:
PS3 - 79.94%
360 - 14.77%
WIU - 5.29%
Of course, it's very likely that the Wii U version did not sell 1,493 copies at launch. That's its maximum threshold.
Next, suppose we adjust Splinter Cell: Blacklist Wii U figures to a more realistic number like ~800:
PS3 - 22,569
360 - 4,170
WIU - 800
Total - 27,539
PS3 - 81.95%
360 - 15.14%
WIU - 2.91%
It can be reasonably assumed that the Wii U of Splinter Cell: Blacklist had 3% to 5% of the marketshare in Japan in its debut week.
This is a direct example where the Wii U version of a game---when sold at the same time, for the same price, and with nearly the same features as its PS3 / 360 counterparts---has underwhelmed relative to its other platforms.
This can be partially attributed to lack of userbase, or the fact that the Wii U version is missing offline co-op. But it can also be connected to an underlying dread...the kind of dread that gets consoles like the Wii U into a negative feedback cycle.
It goes like this:
0) A console just came out, so its userbase is small
1) Wii U sales of third-party retail games are low
2) The Wii U versions of functionally equivalent multiplats have pathetic marketshares ->
3) They won't make the third-party company a sufficient profit
4) It's no longer worth the opportunity costs to divert resources to create future ports
5) Wii U third-party development declines because third-parties decide not to support it
6) The Wii U endures negative developer sentiment from the stigma of being a "first-party machine"
7) Many multiplats don't come to the Wii U
8) Retailers give the system less exposure
9) Consumers get dissuaded from buying Wii U multiplats
10) It's now a more challenging environment for the Wii U to sell third-party retail games
Just repeat that cycle (steps 1-10) over and over again.
Nintendo is falling into this vicious cycle as the few third-party retail games that are coming out for the system (Yakuza 1&2 HD, Splinter Cell: Blacklist) underwhelm.
It may not be the case that the Wii U is completely unworkable for third-parties. After all, Capcom and Square Enix were able to utilize the Wii U to sell their flagship IPs (Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate at >200K and Dragon Quest X at >72K) above non-abysmal levels.
But the problem is that this negative feedback cycle is caused by PERCEPTION. When developers perceive a console as "dead," it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I think the WiiU shows how many gamers (not expanded audience, who hasn't returned) are willing to buy a console solely for Nintendo's traditional games (sorry Wonderful 101). So at the moment, that's 3 million worldwide, correct? Which I would guess isn't enough to sustain an HD console endeavor. Which should let Nintendo know that they need to "attract more than just Nintendo gamers" when they make their next console. I don't know in what way that would be accomplished though.
I think the 360 version of Splinter Cell sold better than the Wii U version because the userbase was built for western games on the 360.
So you're saying it will get those impulse buyers because it is cheap?
So you're saying it will get those impulse buyers because it is cheap?
Yup.
Even after 7 years on the market the PS3 is still not in impulse buy territory. PTV is probably the only current dedicated gaming system that hits that note. Even the 2DS will be $30 (?) more expensive.
Aside from the great idea the main thing Sony nailed with VitaTV is price.
It might also provide a venue for Japanese devs to dive back into making console games, being unable to keep up with the tech and costs of the PS3 and all that.
sellthrough %?
But just getting impulse buyers won't make it successful. It will just get impulse buyers and early adopters, not the market at large. The VitaTV loses what is one of the most appealing things about the Vita, which is that it is a handheld.
Why would a handheld device now set-top box will get Japanese devs back into console games? All games on Vita TV would be on the Vita.
Its not just about impulse buyers.
VitaTV is basically a sub-PS3 gaming console, and a very cheap one at that.
The VitaTV and Vita are part of one whole imo, not separate products, one selling equally benefits the other because its all about the user base. The bigger it is the more games they will get.
I'm not going to pretend I have what it takes to run a company, but NCL needs to get a software ecosystem in place for their handhelds and home consoles as soon as they can. A universal Nintendo OS, Miiverse and unified account is a must. Get this on a WiiU 2.0 [console] and a WiiU 1.5/2.0 XL [handheld].
I think this will help out.
Aquamarine
Member
Dengeki didn't provide sell-through percentages for the entire reporting period.
But here are the first-day sell-through percentages:
[PS3] [360] Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist - 50%
[WIU] Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist - 3-5%
And here is what Famitsu said (for September 2nd through September 8th):
[PS3] Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist - 60-80%
[360] Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Blacklist - 80-100%
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Thought this was really interesting how the overall software sales on the year were that close between Nintendo and Sony platforms, definitely not what I was thinking would be the case.
Obviously those percentages are going to shift quite a bit in the very near future.
-Plasma Reus-
Service guarantees member status
From OP:
I don't even know why Microsoft bothers with Japan to be honest. This is all kinds of crazy.
I don't even know why Microsoft bothers with Japan to be honest. This is all kinds of crazy.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Missing the forest for the trees a bit. Whatever major policy shift that occurs at Nintendo to make it successful in the modern age will result in those features, but they're the consequence, not the cause.
Aquamarine
Member
On an unrelated note, why doesn't the OP have the Famitsu Xbox 360 figures?
It clearly states here: http://www.famitsu.com/biz/ranking/
...that Xbox 360 has sold 157 units this week, according to Famitsu.
amishpriest99
Member
Not a surprise...it's at least another revenue stream (if not a particularly significant one) and if it gains traction, all the better for them.
michaelius
Banned
Well if they sell 500k of VTV in Japan they increased Vita userbase by 1/3 to put it in perspective.
Yea, it is a whole in terms of userbase, but they are both allowing one to play the same games largely. And when you are presented te choice and given the preference towards handhelds due to the lifestyle, the Vita will be their choice.
DarkLordMalik
Member
$99 or bust!
amishpriest99
Member
Good point, though I wonder what effect the Vita TV may or may not have in driving software sales. Definitely can't hurt to grow the userbase if the investment on Sony's part is low enough to justify it.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Nah, I doubt Sony money hatted it.
BlackLagoon
Member
Could be due to the Vita having a more modern OS, which might make it easier to keep the console version in sync with the PC one. Having to wait for patches and new content to be certified and processed is typically the main reason we don't see many games offer cross-platform multiplayer for the current gen. Things seem better on the PS4 with games like War Thunder offering cross-platform play, and it might also apply to the Vita.