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Media Create Sales: Week 37, 2014 (Sep 08 - Sep 14)
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ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
TGS starts today right? Are most of the announcements usually done before TGS? Just wondering on whether we should expect any TGS announcements.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Peléo;130445609 said:
Pretty much all listed "first week" sales for Media Create/Famitsu range from 2-4 days. It doesn't really matter.
Nice bump for the PS4. As Sony expected Destiny is their most important game for the Japanese market. Though obviously the PS4 expects only to be the successor of the 360 with this approach and numbers. The Xbox One, the All-in-One-Entertainment System, will not be the successor to the 360, it is already racing fast down to the current numbers the 360 is selling.
BishopLamont
Banned
yeah i don't get the recent resurgence of xbone supporters lately, its fate was set in stone before the generation even began.
Yokai Watch was still growing when the sequel released, its not a surprise it was outsold so quick.Yo-kai Watch had a bigger fanbase, but it still outsold its predecessor total sales in the first week and gave the system a modest jump (compared to MH and Pokemon) of a little over 100%.
I think it is much more likely the HW boost by Smash suffers more from selling to the same fanbase than n3DS. Sales dropped by just 20% (Famitsu) 21% (Media Create) from W35 to W36 despite W36 being a full week post n3DS announcement (both trackers showed growth from W34 to W35). Unless Nintendo had a huge marketing push for n3DS that I didn't know about I seriously doubt 3DS sales would have gone below 20k let alone hit four digits.
Sales for 3DS will of course decline as the release of n3DS comes (why else would they drop 20% W36), but I think its effect is over blown. I dunno what we'll learn in a month other than n3DS selling a ton of units first week
Do they track PC games BTW? I'm guessing not as I've never seen them, if retail copies of PC games are even sold in Japan.
Hardware always drop when a revision gets announced. Smash's hw boost didn't suffer from anything besides the revision's imminent release. What do you mean by smash selling to the same fanbase? its the first time the series has appeared on the 3ds, sure its audience overlaps with mh/pokemon/yw, that doesn't mean it doesn't push hardware, by that logic no sequel would push any hardware.
next week?
How is the 3ds saturated if its selling the most hardware every week? There's no such thing as saturation when it comes to consoles, as long as its supported with software, it'll keep selling, simple as that.
Look at DS sales.
It's not if you look at the LTD for both, ones just higher to sync the final the numbers.
On the contrary, they did maximize sales by doing this, they get rid of old stock thanks to ssb, they're in no rush to sell the revision when there's plenty of other big games that will sell it by the end of the year.
the shiny color bundle is the bigger reason the ps4 sold, destiny is more there for the ride.
Eolz
Member
Uh? Wouldn't the games coming in 2015 be their most important games for this market, as they expected?
They just advertised Destiny a lot more and put it in a different pack, I don't think they thought it would be an extremely important title for the japanese.
Bruno MB
Member
Enterbrain tracks them, they have a monthly PC sales ranking.
As a sample, here's an old chart from May 2007.
lo zaffo
Member
I see (new) Nintendo 3Ds being a better (local/internet) multi-player machine than Wii U, so Super Smash Brothers should do better on 3Ds overall.
Because Smash boosted sales from 30k to 40k while MH4 boosted sales from 80k to 270k.
I never said HW didn't drop, just that it didn't drop by a big amount (just 20%) and wouldn't explain the lackluster HW sales when a big game was launched.
Hasn't that started already with Batman Arkham Knight? Or is that a SCEJ deal similar to Destiny?
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Platinum is busy enough surely? ;-)
Aquamarine
Member
Xbox One's decline: 23,562 first week to 3,574 second week (-84.83%)
Oh wow.
Oh wow.
Xbone actually did better than I thought it would haha.
Smash Bros not significantly boosting hardware was expected, current 3DS models in Japan are at their saturation point. Been obvious for awhile, just look at the minor boost when Yokai Watch 2 released which did better numbers than Smash.
Destiny better than expected particularly boosting PS4 sales. I've been wondering for awhile if Japan would eventually become conditioned to western console software, as there isn't much else releasing releasing these days.
Smash Bros not significantly boosting hardware was expected, current 3DS models in Japan are at their saturation point. Been obvious for awhile, just look at the minor boost when Yokai Watch 2 released which did better numbers than Smash.
Destiny better than expected particularly boosting PS4 sales. I've been wondering for awhile if Japan would eventually become conditioned to western console software, as there isn't much else releasing releasing these days.
No idea, but I'm talking more Japanese developed games.
theprodigy
Member
Hey, what happened to the Pokemon X/Y vs other Pokemon gens comparison?
metalmonstar
Member
Poor Xbox One how much longer before it falls to 1,000. This is worse than VitaTV and PSPGo. I can't imagine these sales were worthwhile to Microsoft.
Youkai Watch doing well.
Smash had a nice opening.
Youkai Watch doing well.
Smash had a nice opening.
SwiftDeath
Member
I've made a huge mistake
BishopLamont
Banned
hw didn't drop much because of the big game launch, yet its still lackluster coz of the imminent revision.
you can't expect hw to drop alot and at the same time expect a big hw boost from smash, its one or the other.
mh4 didn't have deal with any of this, if mh4u (yes the upcoming expansion) switched launch dates with ssb, you'd still see the 3ds selling the same way, the fact that ssb stopped the 3ds from dropping to sub 10k sales by now is a feat in itself.
saying ssb is only selling to the same fanbase because it didn't sell much hardware on launch week is lunacy if you consider that it sold nearly 1m, even if it boosted hw by 200k, that leaves 800k sw sales to the current 3ds fanbase.
what you're failing to grasp is that practically everyone that wants a 3ds would rather wait for the revision but because ssb is coming out before the revision, people simply just can't wait.
Melee outsold MK
D, so it won't be the first time.even if smash wii u doesn't outsell mk8, ssb3ds/wii u combined will sell better than mk7/mk8 combined.
sub 1k next week.
I know about the SSB's numbers I'm asking for Mario Kart 7 ^^;
I believe the boost was mostly due to the new color (white), not so much Destiny. But who knows...
SwiftDeath
Member
lol sorry my bad. Reading comprehension fail!
theprodigy
Member
423,619 on Media Create, but that was back when the install base wasn't even 3 million yet
it shows up this week on Famitsu, could you use that or is your thing based on Media Create instead?
Bruno MB
Member
Weekly sales are too low to bother making the sales comparison chart.
Anyway, it's behind every main Pokémon entry and it will probably be the first title to miss the 5 million mark.
P.S. I'm not including Pokémon Black 2 / White 2.
Immaculate
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I kinda expected 3DS to do 200k or something because smash has never been on a handheld before
Ah. Got it.
No they can't. I already stated sales dropped by just 20% right after the announcement when the only big title released was DQX. 20% by far isn't "practically everyone" unless you imagine DQX was supposed to magically boost sales by more than its shipment or something
It'll probably be a slow decline untill it hits the market as many who want a 3DS either don't know about the new model or don't feel like waiting a month. I haven't followed many revision launches, but with Vita 2000 sales of the old model dropped to 3k the week before 2000 launched.
Actually, it's a smart strategy. Upgrading to the New 3DS is not free, so it would compete with Smash for existing 3DS owners' money. Releasing them almost a month apart means people's wallets will have been refilled. Some Smash owners might even keep their old 3DS for local multiplayer.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
Member
I think 112k is a good number for HW first month
El-Pistolero
Member
Same here.
SSB is smashing indeed. The WiiU is coasting and the Xbox One toasting...
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Smash is always more front loaded. This is nothing new.
michaelius
Banned
Tier 2 launch was just a days ago and mysteriously tons of xbox fans with new accounts registered on many forums or started commenting on blogs
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Btw, I was reading a time article today mentioning that the recent tax hike caused a 7% decrease in the Japanese economy YoY from Apr-June. I guess it makes sense that entertainment got hit harder (as I think we're noticing here). There also might be another tax hike coming soon, although lots of folks want to get it delayed...
Also, I think Nintendo should put Nintendo Land back in over Wii Sports Club in their Japanese Wii U bundle. From what I can tell they put some super limited version Wii Sports Club (no online for example) in the package so in the end, the console has now become a worse value than at launch. They also got rid of the good bundle right when Mario Kart 8 released, which I was think was a huge mistake. I doubt the sales from NSMBU & Wii Party U separately are suddenly going to make up for the fact that the remaining bundle is super unattractive.
Also, I think Nintendo should put Nintendo Land back in over Wii Sports Club in their Japanese Wii U bundle. From what I can tell they put some super limited version Wii Sports Club (no online for example) in the package so in the end, the console has now become a worse value than at launch. They also got rid of the good bundle right when Mario Kart 8 released, which I was think was a huge mistake. I doubt the sales from NSMBU & Wii Party U separately are suddenly going to make up for the fact that the remaining bundle is super unattractive.
test_account
XP-39C²
Isnt saturation usually referring to YOY comparison?
I have serious doubts Vita 2014 Q4 sales will manage to match 2013. There isn't the proper software, neither revision or Vita TV.
Yo-kai Watch had a bigger fanbase, but it still outsold its predecessor total sales in the first week and gave the system a modest jump (compared to MH and Pokemon) of a little over 100%.
I think it is much more likely the HW boost by Smash suffers more from selling to the same fanbase than n3DS. Sales dropped by just 20% (Famitsu) 21% (Media Create) from W35 to W36 despite W36 being a full week post n3DS announcement (both trackers showed growth from W34 to W35). Unless Nintendo had a huge marketing push for n3DS that I didn't know about I seriously doubt 3DS sales would have gone below 20k let alone hit four digits.
Sales for 3DS will of course decline as the release of n3DS comes (why else would they drop 20% W36), but I think its effect is over blown. I dunno what we'll learn in a month other than n3DS selling a ton of units first week
3DS sales 4 weeks before YW2
26.575
26.311
27.884
27.338
3DS sales 4 weeks after YW2 (Obon isn't included)
61.956
37.377
38.445
38.759
This doesn't look like modest jump to me and MH4 / X/Y isn't the target that if you don't match you fail.
First Smash for handheld and it's selling to the same fanbase? You still don't get Smash (and YW2) is the only reason after n3DS announcement 3DS sales remain so high.
Biggest first week for Nintendo games since 1996 (excluding Pokemon):
1. 987,239 / 987,239 - [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS {2014-09-13} (2 days)
2. 936,734 / 4,584,787 - [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii {2009-12-03} (4 days)
3. 865,024 / 6,428,457 - [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. {2006-05-25} (4 days)
4. 816,198 / 2,315,401 - [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl {2008-01-31} (4 days)
5. 721,786 / 4,171,720 - [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf {2012-11-08} (4 days)
6. 608,147 / 3,717,665 - [WII] Mario Kart Wii {2008-04-10} (4 days)
7. 451,932 / 2,306,431 - [3DS] Mario Kart 7 {2011-12-01} (4 days)
8. 430,185 / 2,290,720 - [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 {2012-07-28} (2 days)
9. 416,124 / 5,082,322 - [NDS] Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day {2005-12-29} (4 days)
10. 411,025 / 1,657,909 - [3DS] Tomodachi Life {2013-04-18} (4 days)
Recent Western new IP first week:
137,378 - [PS3, PS4] Destiny {2014-09-11} (SCE)
129,983 - [PS3] The Last of Us {2013-06-20} (SCE) *1
104,690 - [PS3, PS4] Watch Dogs {2014-06-26} (Ubisoft)
93,518 - [PS3, 360] Red Dead Redemption {2010-10-07} (Take-Two Interactive)
93,183 - [WII] Just Dance Wii {2011-10-13} (Nintendo) *2
56,345 - [PS3, 360] L.A. Noire {2011-07-07} (Rockstar)
34,054 - [360] Assassin's Creed {2007-11-29} (Ubisoft)
*1: Sony is Japanese, but TLoU is essentially a Western game.
*2: Just Dance is a Western game, but it was adapted to Japanese music by Nintendo.
Famitsu sales.
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Regarding the FFXV demo download code with FFT-0, looking forward to pictures of bomba bins overflowing with used copies of Type-0.
1. 987,239 / 987,239 - [3DS] Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS {2014-09-13} (2 days)
2. 936,734 / 4,584,787 - [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii {2009-12-03} (4 days)
3. 865,024 / 6,428,457 - [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. {2006-05-25} (4 days)
4. 816,198 / 2,315,401 - [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl {2008-01-31} (4 days)
5. 721,786 / 4,171,720 - [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf {2012-11-08} (4 days)
6. 608,147 / 3,717,665 - [WII] Mario Kart Wii {2008-04-10} (4 days)
7. 451,932 / 2,306,431 - [3DS] Mario Kart 7 {2011-12-01} (4 days)
8. 430,185 / 2,290,720 - [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 {2012-07-28} (2 days)
9. 416,124 / 5,082,322 - [NDS] Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day {2005-12-29} (4 days)
10. 411,025 / 1,657,909 - [3DS] Tomodachi Life {2013-04-18} (4 days)
Recent Western new IP first week:
137,378 - [PS3, PS4] Destiny {2014-09-11} (SCE)
129,983 - [PS3] The Last of Us {2013-06-20} (SCE) *1
104,690 - [PS3, PS4] Watch Dogs {2014-06-26} (Ubisoft)
93,518 - [PS3, 360] Red Dead Redemption {2010-10-07} (Take-Two Interactive)
93,183 - [WII] Just Dance Wii {2011-10-13} (Nintendo) *2
56,345 - [PS3, 360] L.A. Noire {2011-07-07} (Rockstar)
34,054 - [360] Assassin's Creed {2007-11-29} (Ubisoft)
*1: Sony is Japanese, but TLoU is essentially a Western game.
*2: Just Dance is a Western game, but it was adapted to Japanese music by Nintendo.
Famitsu sales.
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Regarding the FFXV demo download code with FFT-0, looking forward to pictures of bomba bins overflowing with used copies of Type-0.
Wow, nothing except Pkmn in terms of 1st Party has ever opened over a million?
Them legs.
It's a healthy doubling over four weeks, but I still think it is modest when you take into consideration that YW2 is the biggest title released so far this year and the 3DS was tracking way behind its sales last year. Of course it is really good for a sequel on the same platform to double console sales for a month as well, I didn't used modest as a synonyme for bad. I use the word modest because 60k in a week used to be quite common for the 3DS. Weekly average in 2013 was 94k and if we extrapolate the ratio between 2013 and 2014 so far then weekly sales in 2014 will be 50k.
I don't think Smash boosted last week's sales (if you consider those abnormally high post n3DS announcement) which as I already said were down, but not by a big amount. By same fanbase I meant Nintendo fanbase.
SwiftDeath
Member
Huh Red Dead Redemption had a pretty good opening considering its a western game
I guess Japan has a rockstar fanbase of some size?
I guess Japan has a rockstar fanbase of some size?
Did people suddenly develop expectations for the XB1 over the last two weeks? What in the world?
Smash U is going to be really interesting. I don't think it will sell poorly per se, but there's a very good chance that lot of customers will be satisfied with only the 3DS version.
I wonder if Western-developed open world and shooter games will grow this gen.
But did it push more PS4s than Pikmin 3 pushed Wii Us?
Isn't that roughly in line with the PS4 2nd week drop? It's okay, Xbox One will make the same comback in the following weeks and into 2015!