Wow. That's pretty insane.
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Principate
Saint Titanfall
I doubt that. Nintendo seems to preferring to let their team's branch out more rather than recycle e.g ARMS and Mario Kart. Besides I'd expect a lot of this team to be working on Animal Crossing.
Zelda is still king (But not in Japan).
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Which games?
Out of curiosity, what are these? FFXIII, RE5, and MGS4?
FFXIII, RE5, GTAV and several games close to 1m.
What other than FFXIII?
My data is likely out of date...
EDIT: Should have just waited 30 seconds.
D.Lo
Member
I think it's just a fundamentally western-focused design for a console. It says Sony on the box but it might as well have been made by Microsoft, it's an intel PC in a box, requiring full game installs and giant patches and huge HDD space for 100GB games. And Japan even got a late launch as if to telegraph 'this is not for you'. There's just nothing Japanese about it.
To appeal to Japan maybe a super-quiet SSD equipped super-slim model?
Not true. And PS3 was also a mediocre seller that lost the generation it competed in.
frankie_baby
Member
Splatoon 1.75
BrokenJohnCena
Member
dumb question,what would have happened to this market if Nintendo decided to go for a normal high-end console after the wii u?
gundamkyoukai
Member
I sure they are trying to make there product more appealing .
It's just that they are not going to go out of there way if it harm there product on a WW base.
Japan like portables and that is no longer a Sony market .
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
If I had to guess, maybe MGS4.
frankie_baby
Member
And still climbing
PS3 million sellers: Chris' post and > https://sites.google.com/site/gamedatalibrary/software-by-platform/playstation-3
Perhaps I've just read the data wrong, but isn't PS4 doing better than PS3 in terms of hardware sold per year? The first calendar year is a bit odd because PS3 launches in a November while PS4 launches in a February, but aside from that launch year, each subsequent year (i.e. full year that can be counted for each) has the PS4 ahead. PS3's 2nd year (2008) had 981k YTD compared to PS4's 1.33 million, and PS3's 3rd year had 1.76 million compared to PS4's 1.8 million. Now, we sit in the middle of September with 1.23 million for PS4, while PS3's 4th year sold 1.59 million. These are Media Create numbers from the final week of each year, just to be clear.
Regardless of speculation about whether the PS4 will die out faster or whatever, at least for now, is it not doing better?
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
Well that's true. But it is the Home Console version, if you look at those it hasn't been as popular as you're pointing out. Despite relentless publicity for the non-portable version, MH is traditionally a portable game. Played wirelessly on the train and whatnot, the home console version doesn't have as much value, besides the graphics and so on. Doesn't seem to matter much.
frankie_baby
Member
Beating the first few years of the ps3 can hardly be called an acheivement
Metroid sold meh, and I don't expect much legs for it.
These kind of posts are so dumb. The Wii U was a complete failure of design. It failed everywhere for different reasons than why the PS4 is underperforming in Japan. Bringing up the Wii U doesn't invalidate what he said. (Also the Wii U consistantly outsold the PS4 launch aligned for quite a while, before Nintendo just gave up on it)
These kind of posts are so dumb. The Wii U was a complete failure of design. It failed everywhere for different reasons than why the PS4 is underperforming in Japan. Bringing up the Wii U doesn't invalidate what he said. (Also the Wii U consistantly outsold the PS4 launch aligned for quite a while, before Nintendo just gave up on it)
TheLegendaryN
Member
First time for the Switch to be the console with most games in the top 20.
Winning Eleven sales dropped ~20%. Further decline. I expect FIFA to have a higher debut compared to last year (that franchise took off when Winning Eleven started declining - the audience is still there). My prediction of FIFA FW sales share between PS4 and Switch is around 82% vs 18% (4,5 : 1).
Metroid sales are lukewarm, as expected. Nothing too interesting about it imo.
84% drop for Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 Switch. That's expected. The thing was sold out at many places, so I blame supply rather than player interest.
Switch hardware has found a nice bottomline at 45k. It'll probably stay like this the coming weeks until Super Mario Odyssey.
PS4 hardware sales are disappointing imo and the holiday line-up doesn't look good enough to improve the situation. Sony can be happy if the bottomline of 25k units per week stays.
Winning Eleven sales dropped ~20%. Further decline. I expect FIFA to have a higher debut compared to last year (that franchise took off when Winning Eleven started declining - the audience is still there). My prediction of FIFA FW sales share between PS4 and Switch is around 82% vs 18% (4,5 : 1).
Metroid sales are lukewarm, as expected. Nothing too interesting about it imo.
84% drop for Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 Switch. That's expected. The thing was sold out at many places, so I blame supply rather than player interest.
Switch hardware has found a nice bottomline at 45k. It'll probably stay like this the coming weeks until Super Mario Odyssey.
PS4 hardware sales are disappointing imo and the holiday line-up doesn't look good enough to improve the situation. Sony can be happy if the bottomline of 25k units per week stays.
emilioasis
Member
The Switch has sold half as many units as the Wii U did in its entire lifespan.
frankie_baby
Member
Nintendo pretty much gave up trying with the wii u after a year or so, a more normal price curve and a couple more games and it likely would have maintained its lead over ps4 in japan at least
The reason there wasn't a normal price curve was because of the tablet controller bumping up production costs.
Nintendo hardly "gave up", they just had an incredibly poorly conceived product they really couldn't salvage if they tried.
D.Lo
Member
Launch aligned they're basically the same I believe?
But PS3 never got Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy took longer to arrive, and was far more expensive and was up against an initially crushingly successful Wii. PS4 was cheaper and had only the failed Wii U to compete against.
Are you serious or trolling? Wii U was a completely stupid console design that failed for completely unrelated reasons.
Totally agree.
Well what would you prefer it be compared to? No one is denying that the PS4 is still not outselling the PS2, or Wii. But compared to their previous console hardware, it is doing better. So if it's dead now, then by god it must have been double-dead last generation.
You are right, launch aligned the PS4 is slightly ahead of the PS3 in Japan right now, i think around 100k? The PS3 however had a really slow start due to the high price and weak software, and started getting momentum later in its long life. The PS4 most likely won't have a similar development. If you factor in that the PS3 had to compete with the stronger Wii, while the PS4 is basically the only relevant home console in the market, the PS4 performance looks a bit weak given the favorable conditions.
Really funny. Switch wouldn't have been as successful in Japan if it wasn't for the handheld part and he knows that.
lyrick
Member
It's following nearly the same trajectory as its predecessor. If the PS3s "success" was middling at best, so is PS4s.
It is OK
D.Lo
Member
It's not dead now, but is a niche. And yes, PS3 was a complete disaster that crawled back to poor-mediocre.
frankie_baby
Member
While it certainly didnt help had it sold a bit better there would probably have been more wiggle room on other components but its pretty clear a decision was made early on not to bother and likely just manufacture out all the systems they had already ordered components for and make the maximum profit on them
gundamkyoukai
Member
I really don't think any one is saying otherwise when it comes to Japan or at least i hope not lol.
Polygonal_Sprite
Gold Member
Sit over there PS4, Switch got this 
Metroid numbers not bad at all.
Metroid numbers not bad at all.
It is indeed performing microscopically better than it's disappointing predecessor.
Mission accomplished.
The thing with Metroid numbers is that most sales came from the Special Edition and they will drop like a rock next week. When you look at the big picture of LTD and not the irrelevant "better than expected for first week" things won't look good. it will likely been outsold from almost all previous 2D (and 3D) entries.
encephalon
Member
If 30k is good then what is bad?
New color last week was a few thousand sales boost as expected. And this week had two decent launches, but the PS4 might slide even lower as the month progresses and we enter October. Weak holiday's not going to do it any favors this year.
Switch just chugging along, and Xenoverse 2 has no stock. Oops.
Switch just chugging along, and Xenoverse 2 has no stock. Oops.
Laplasakos
Member
Only because you are counting multiple SKUs combined like Resident Evil 5+Gold Edition+Best Hits. Otherwise it only has one.
Indeed. Good numbers, considering
The Last One
Member
Things not on Nintendo platforms.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
You can't make that comparison. Just about every kid in Japan owns a 3DS. Two brothers in the same household will own one, that won't happen with a home console.
Sammy Samusu
Member
It did?
D.Lo
Member
Despite the good reception, it's been poorly positioned worldwide. It's just so late for a core 'hardcore' 3DS game.
Shocking but it did. MGS4 didn't make it at Media Create but made it a Famitsu if you want to count that too.
I feel like at this point people are just trying to belittle Sony by calling PS4 niche. Or some of y'all have a weird fucking definition what is niche. PS4 is not niche. Even Wii U isn't niche. They're just not blockbusters. Imma call Switch niche too until it sells more than 10 million consoles, might as well use the word wrong too.
29k