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I was using install base to show why a big userbase doesn't neccessary means the JRPG demo will be there even if a big JRPG exist on it, eg. Pokemon.

DQX wasn't a failure on the Wii, but because there was so many ports, which would lower profits just because of the cost to do so, would have made SE think twice about where DQ will go. I think they rather minimize the number of ports as much as possible. I don't think Ninokuni is a good example because it was released on the DS first, the PS3 was a late port. IIRC the DS version didn't perform very well either, it was overshipped and took awhile to sell its initial shipment.
Ni No Kuni seemed like good aspirational comparison, obviously the market wasn't there though. It played heavy to all-ages and nostalgic themes, it was a collaboration with Ghibli, even it's visual style and game design evoked DQ on some levels. The PS3 version wasn't a port either, it was an entirely new game that retold the DS version's story and added quite a bit more to it.

In terms if demographics I think you're just underselling Dragon Quest. It just has a far wider reach than most JRPGs. Something like Tales is incredibly narrow in comparison in terms of target demographics. What you should be looking at are properties from Nintendo, Ghibli or Disney. The target is "everyone". Even Pokémon is probably a closer match than Tales.
 
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What has SE done to make you think they'd bother pushing it in the west?
Didn't see this post. They've been localizing DQs for the west lately, much more than they have in previous gens.

sörine;132309260 said:
Ni No Kuni seemed like good aspirational comparison, obviously the market wasn't there though. It played heavy to all-ages and nostalgic themes, it was a collaboration with Ghibli, even it's visual style and game design evoked DQ on some levels. The PS3 version wasn't a port either, it was an entirely new game that retold the DS version's story and added quite a bit more to it.

In terms if demographics I think you're just underselling Dragon Quest. It just has a far wider reach than most JRPGs. Something like Tales is incredibly narrow in comparison in terms of target demographics. What you should be looking at are properties from Nintendo, Ghibli or Disney. The target is "everyone". Even Pokémon is probably a closer match than Tales.
Like I said before, I think the 3DS has as much chance as the PS4, but I don't think it's because of the Pokemon demo that is gonna affect SE's decision, rather how healthy and active the system will be at its release, otherwise Ninokuni would have sold better on the DS, which had Pokemon and DQ on it. Of course I recognize DQ hits more demo than any normal JRPG, I just think the one with the most JRPG fans will sell it the most. Tales by itself is obviously gonna hit this demo much less than Pokemon, in sheer size and target demo, but if you add FF/KH into the mix then it evens it out a bit, lets not forget that more JRPGs are likely to be released for the PS4 and not just those games.

Oh and KH has Disney characters =p
 

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Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
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PREDICTION LEAGUE OCTOBER 2014

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Sep 29 to Oct 26):

[3DS] New 3DS Hardware (16 days) - 216,000
[3DS] New 3DS LL Hardware (16 days) - 227,892
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4G (16 days) - 1,324,555
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 (25 days) - 135,233
[PS4+PS3] Evil Within (4 days) - 141,078
[3DS] Tales of the World Reve Unitia (4 days) - 74,906
 
Jun 6, 2012
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All I'm getting from this is whatever DQ11 releases on, people will be disappointed. I see it doing a Ni No Kuni, like others have suggested and releasing on 3DS first and PS4 (possibly Wii U and Vita if they so will it) with an expanded version.
 
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All I'm getting from this is whatever DQ11 releases on, people will be disappointed. I see it doing a Ni No Kuni, like others have suggested and releasing on 3DS first and PS4 (possibly Wii U and Vita if they so will it) with an expanded version.
People are questioning 3DS and PS4's selling potential in a few years time, forget about Wii U and Vita by that point.
 

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People are questioning 3DS and PS4's selling potential in a few years time, forget about Wii U and Vita by that point.
Haven't recent sales shown that vita is in japan more relevant than a PS4? I really have to wonder why people think the PS4 will receive a numbered DQ just like that.

The west is irrelevant for DQ and PS4 is doing shit numbers all-around in Japan.

What's the reasoning here??
 
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People are questioning 3DS and PS4's selling potential in a few years time, forget about Wii U and Vita by that point.
I suppose it depends when the game releases. 3DS/4DS multiplat release like DQX was on Wii/Wii U? We'll see.

Haven't recent sales shown that vita is in japan more relevant than a PS4? I really have to wonder why people think the PS4 will receive a numbered DQ just like that.

The west is irrelevant for DQ and PS4 is doing shit numbers all-around in Japan.

What's the reasoning here??
I think it's clear with the PS4's upcoming lineup that it could potentially see a pseudo-PS3 revival and reach like 8-10 million...maybe.
 
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One thing the last 8 years have shown us is that Horii is no longer afraid to experiment with Dragon Quest. Even numbered ones. Maybe he's getting old and wants to try as many things as possible before he retires. Maybe he's a sell out. Whatever the case is, the time where people could safely predict what is or isn't DQ is long over. So I think making a statement like "Square Enix expects 3.5 million sales from DQXI if it's on the PS4" is completely pointless in absence of... any actual information about the business plan at all.
With this argument, there is as good a chance for Horii to make DQXI for WiiU as PS4. Graphic is never the strength for DQ games. No expectation to sell over 3million in Japan. DQ is never aimed for western market. Horri might want to experiment with the Gamepad. WiiU has a bigger userbase in Japan than PS4.

isn't it possible square could do dq11 for ps4 and the new dragon quest monsters game could be for 3ds to satisfy that crowd which possibly could lead to a win-win for them rather than splitting resources on multiple platforms for one game.

3ds gets bravely default, ff explorers and dqm
ps4 gets ffxv, dq11 and kh3

everyone is happy :)
How does it make everyone happy?

I think it's clear with the PS4's upcoming lineup that it could potentially see a pseudo-PS3 revival and reach like 8-10 million...maybe.
Let's say it will happen but it doesn't help DQ11 though since it will be released in 2016. How big PS4 userbase will be by even the end of 2016? 4 million?
 
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Like I said before, I think the 3DS has as much chance as the PS4, but I don't think it's because of the Pokemon demo that is gonna affect SE's decision, rather how healthy and active the system will be at its release, otherwise Ninokuni would have sold better on the DS, which had Pokemon and DQ on it. Of course I recognize DQ hits more demo than any normal JRPG, I just think the one with the most JRPG fans will sell it the most. Tales by itself is obviously gonna hit this demo much less than Pokemon, in sheer size and target demo, but if you add FF/KH into the mix then it evens it out a bit, lets not forget that more JRPGs are likely to be released for the PS4 and not just those games.

Oh and KH has Disney characters =p
Even in 2016 I bet 3DS will still be outselling PS4 weekly. 3DS will also have tons of 2m+ sellers under it's belt where as PS4 won't.

And are you telling me KH+FF+Tales combined evens out with Pokémon for demographics? Really? Do I really have to explain the faulty logic there for you?
 
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It's difficult to say how PS4 will end up doing at this point. After February/March, we'll have a more clear understanding. If it doesn't pick up significantly after that, I think a lot of publishers are gonna be in trouble.
 
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Haven't recent sales shown that vita is in japan more relevant than a PS4? I really have to wonder why people think the PS4 will receive a numbered DQ just like that.

The west is irrelevant for DQ and PS4 is doing shit numbers all-around in Japan.

What's the reasoning here??
Future support basically, Vita won't be as heavily supported as the PS4

sörine;132314075 said:
Even in 2016 I bet 3DS will still be outselling PS4 weekly. 3DS will also have tons of 2m+ sellers under it's belt where as PS4 won't.

And are you telling me KH+FF+Tales combined evens out with Pokémon for demographics? Really? Do I really have to explain the faulty there for you?
Not just those games, other JRPGs on the PS4 too.

Basically I think the PS4 will have more JRPGs than the 3DS will and be just as active by that time, even if the 3DS has a bigger userbase, that is bigger userbase but not active userbase. In the same way the PS4 is outselling some PS3 games despite the PS3 having a bigger userbase.

I suppose it depends when the game releases. 3DS/4DS multiplat release like DQX was on Wii/Wii U? We'll see.

I think it's clear with the PS4's upcoming lineup that it could potentially see a pseudo-PS3 revival and reach like 8-10 million...maybe.
4DS support could be a possibility in some way, especially since it'll be the same platform/architecture as Wii U's successor.
 
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Not just those games, other JRPGs on the PS4 too.

Basically I think the PS4 will have more JRPGs than the 3DS will and be just as active by that time, even if the 3DS has a bigger userbase, that is bigger userbase but not active userbase. In the same way the PS4 is outselling some PS3 games despite the PS3 having a bigger userbase.
Many of those games are hitting the same demographic, you can't simply add them together to claim a demographic as wide as DQ or Pokémon. This isn't how audiences work.

If you want to add up though, I guess we could start adding up Pokémon, Yokai Watch, Inazuma Eleven, Bravely Default, Fire Emblem, PDZ, Mario & Luigi, Kingdom Hearts, Tales, DQ Monsters and all the other 3DS JRPGs too. :)
 
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sörine;132316298 said:
Many of those games are hitting the same demographic, you can't simply add them together to claim a demographic as wide as DQ or Pokémon. This isn't how audiences work.

If you want to add up though, I guess we could start adding up Pokémon, Yokai Watch, Inazuma Eleven, Bravely Default, Fire Emblem, PDZ, Mario & Luigi, Kingdom Hearts, Tales, DQ Monsters and all the other 3DS JRPGs too. :)
Oh sure you can, but then you can add other PS4 games and franchises to that list =]

In the end the most active console will be the best target for DQ, but since DQ is a SE property, their actions will tell the most on where DQ will go, and I think their future support for PS4 speaks volumes, which includes a DQ game, this is really the only thing that sways me towards PS4 rather than 3DS for exclusivity, but like I said before, both consoles have just as much chance as each other. When I say PS4 exclusive, I mean PS4 exclusive at first on release, I doubt it'll be exclusive to just one platform forever.

Oh and Horii's comment regarding "big screen", is quite curious too.

And then they stopped because it wasn't worth the money to them. VI, Joker 2 & DQIX were done by nintendo.
I'm not just talking about 3DS releases, they've been localising them for iOS/Android aswell.
 
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In the end the most active console will be the best target for DQ, but since DQ is a SE property, their actions will tell the most on where DQ will go, and I think their future support for PS4 speaks volumes, which includes a DQ game, this is really the only thing that sways me towards PS4 rather than 3DS for exclusivity, but like I said before, both consoles have just as much chance as each other.
I was under the impression that it was down to Horii because he still has final say over the property due to the original contracts he signed with Enix

Never been entirely sure the extent to this though

I'm not just talking about 3DS releases, they've been localising them for iOS/Android aswell.
That's free money because the work was already done for the DS/PS2.

Unless they got new localisations?
 
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You honestly think DQXI will be exclusive to the PS4? Even with SE going multiplatform with their other two flagship franchise? And with Horii expressing interest in the series going multi?

also mohu would be better on the playsation handheld space. (vita + xperia)

huntan on the toilet is awesome on the 3ds.
I never even mentioned anything about PS4 exclusivity

Was asking if DQ is hitting the PS4 now because Nintendo's contract ran out for exclusivity ran out. If one even existed, i dont know
 
Apr 22, 2007
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I was under the impression that it was down to Horii because he still has final say over the property due to the original contracts he signed with Enix

Never been entirely sure the extent to this though



That's free money because the work was already done for the DS/PS2.

Unless they got new localisations?
Doesn't change the fact that they're still doing it. We've never had this many western localisation in such a short span of time in any generation. Thats clearly showing that they want to push DQ to the west.

When I say SE, I'm including Horii, since he is apart of SE.
 
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Doesn't change the fact that they're still doing it. We've never had this many western localisation in such a short span of time in any generation.
It doesn't matter whether or not it changes the fact they're doing it. Whenever there is effort or significant expense involved, SE has demured.

When I say SE, I'm including Horii, since he is apart of SE.
He's not though, his company works under contract with them.
It's the only reason I still look forward to DQ games compared to other SE franchises - he's not a part of their company culture.
 
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even if the 3DS has a bigger userbase, that is bigger userbase but not active userbase. In the same way the PS4 is outselling some PS3 games despite the PS3 having a bigger userbase.
Where exactly do you put the line when it comes to active to inactive userbase? Will it include the majority of systems sold this year? The majority of systems sold in 2015? Is there some transparent barrier that will lead to such decline in 2016 that somehow just affects the very likely top-selling system? While support may decline in preparation for the next gen handheld, I see no indication that 3DS won´t have by far the biggest active userbase in 2016.
 
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Where exactly do you put the line when it comes to active to inactive userbase? Will it include the majority of systems sold this year? The majority of systems sold in 2015? Is there some transparent barrier that will lead to such decline in 2016 that somehow just affects the very likely top-selling system? While support may decline in preparation for the next gen handheld, I see no indication that 3DS won´t have by far the biggest active userbase in 2016.
It depends on what kinda support the 3DS support still has, keeping in mine that its successor will likely be out by that time, which will definitely impact how much support it has. Active userbase is the number of people still buying games on the 3DS that year, which is opposed to the total userbase up to that point. eg. 5 million active users versus an installed userbase of 20M.

For example how some games on PS4 outsell their PS3 counterparts despite the PS3 having a higher installed userbase.

It doesn't matter whether or not it changes the fact they're doing it. Whenever there is effort or significant expense involved, SE has demured.

He's not though, his company works under contract with them.
It's the only reason I still look forward to DQ games compared to other SE franchises - he's not a part of their company culture.
They're still localising more DQ games than they previously have, doesn't matter if it costs them alot of a little to do so, they're still doing it.

Horii is still apart of SE, no matter how much you seem to think he isn't. Horii has the final say regarding DQ, but the game is still getting released under SE. I'm not sure why you're trying to make a big deal out of this.
 
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It depends on what kinda support the 3DS support still has, keeping in mine that its successor will likely be out by that time, which will definitely impact how much support it has. Active userbase is the number of people still buying games on the 3DS that year, which is opposed to the total userbase up to that point. eg. 5 million active users versus an installed userbase of 20M.

For example how some games on PS4 outsell their PS3 counterparts despite the PS3 having a higher installed userbase.
Eh, 3DS will still have the highest active userbase no doubt about it...even if it's just 5 million, still 10 times higher than what any other system will achieve...
 
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It depends on what kinda support the 3DS support still has, keeping in mine that its successor will likely be out by that time, which will definitely impact how much support it has. Active userbase is the number of people still buying games on the 3DS that year, which is opposed to the total userbase up to that point. eg. 5 million active users versus an installed userbase of 20M.

For example how some games on PS4 outsell their PS3 counterparts despite the PS3 having a higher installed userbase.
So in your opinion a hypothetical DQ11 exclusive for 3DS in 2016 wouldn´t easily outsell a hypothetical DQ11 exclusive for PS4.
 
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Eh, 3DS will still have the highest active userbase no doubt about it...even if it's just 5 million, still 10 times higher than what any other system will achieve...
Most likely, I'd just hate to see another Wii situation thats all, but I doubt this will be the case.

So in your opinion a hypothetical DQ11 exclusive for 3DS in 2016 wouldn´t easily outsell a hypothetical DQ11 exclusive for PS4.
Nope, I have no idea which would sell more since I don't know how the market will be like by that time. This would likely be an easier question if the market was just PS4 vs 3DS, but because the smartphone market is affecting it also, this changes things, and its most likely gonna affect the 3DS more than it will the PS4. Overall though, smartphone will affect the whole dedicated console market like it already has and no single console is safe from it. That is why I think it will come to mobile also.
 
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Oh sure you can, but then you can add other PS4 games and franchises to that list =]

In the end the most active console will be the best target for DQ, but since DQ is a SE property, their actions will tell the most on where DQ will go, and I think their future support for PS4 speaks volumes, which includes a DQ game, this is really the only thing that sways me towards PS4 rather than 3DS for exclusivity, but like I said before, both consoles have just as much chance as each other. When I say PS4 exclusive, I mean PS4 exclusive at first on release, I doubt it'll be exclusive to just one platform forever.

Oh and Horii's comment regarding "big screen", is quite curious too.
3DS has both the largest and most active userbase. It probably still will in 2016. It's also home to the best selling JRPGs this gen by far and I can't see that really changing.

I think DQXI could go to PS4, but if it does so exclusively it won't be for market or demographic reasons. And that's because the platform is a very poor match on both counts.

Doesn't change the fact that they're still doing it. We've never had this many western localisation in such a short span of time in any generation. Thats clearly showing that they want to push DQ to the west.

When I say SE, I'm including Horii, since he is apart of SE.
We've gotten 3 iOS/Android releases this year but only one of those is actually a new localization. And it's of the shortest game in the series.

We've had periods of heavy DQ localizations before though, in fact they usually clump up. DWVII, DWI&II GBC, DWIII GBC, Torneko 2 and DWM2 all came in just over a year roughly in 2000-2001. So did DQMJ, DQIV DS and DQV DS in 2007-2009 and DQIX, DQVI DS and DQM2 in 2010-2011. This isn't too unusual for the franchise and it's technically not even the most releases in a small window.
 
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sörine;132325379 said:
3DS has both the largest and most active userbase. It probably still will in 2016. It's also home to the best selling JRPGs this gen by far and I can't see that really changing.

I think DQXI could go to PS4, but if it does so exclusively it won't be for market or demographic reasons. And that's because the platform is a very poor match on both counts.


We've gotten 3 iOS/Android releases this year but only one of those is actually a new localization. And it's of the shortest game in the series.

We've had periods of heavy DQ localizations before though, in fact they usually clump up. DWVII, DWI&II GBC, DWIII GBC, Torneko 2 and DWM2 all came in just over a year roughly in 2000-2001. So did DQMJ, DQIV DS and DQV DS in 2007-2009 and DQIX, DQVI DS and DQM2 in 2010-2011. This isn't too unusual and it's technically not even the most releases in a small window.
Yeah 3DS will most likely have the highest userbase and active install base by that time, basically every big franchise up to this point have also been on the 3DS also.

Aren't we basically getting DQ1-8 for iOS/Android, or am I mistaken?
 
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Yeah 3DS will most likely have the highest userbase and active install base by that time, basically every big franchise up to this point have also been on the 3DS also.

Aren't we basically getting DQ1-8 for iOS/Android, or am I mistaken?
You're mistaken. We've gotten DQVIII, DQIV and DQI so far. We'll probably get DQII and DQIII soon-ish but there's no eta on DQV and DQVI, and now it's looking like DQVII might not happen at all.
 
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sörine;132327074 said:
You're mistaken. We've gotten DQVIII, DQIV and DQI so far. We'll probably get DQII and DQIII soon-ish but there's no eta on DQV and DQVI, and now it's looking like DQVII might not happen at all.
Oh ok fair enough, although I don't see why they'd stop, unless the sales are bad enough.
 
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Oh ok fair enough, although I don't see why they'd stop, unless the sales are bad enough.
Sales are confirmed bad on Android and probably bad on iOS too looking at rankings/ratings. Like significantly worse than the DS remakes bad.

Digital has a different cycle and shelf life than retail though so we'll have to see how they perform long term.
 
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sörine;132328529 said:
Sales are confirmed bad on Android and probably bad on iOS too looking at rankings/ratings. Like significantly worse than the DS remakes bad.

Digital has a different cycle and shelf life than retail though so we'll have to see how they perform long term.
yeah I thought they'd just release them all to get it out of the way, since they only need to release it once for android/ios. I suppose they'll release more when it makes a bit more sense eg. when DQXI comes out.
 
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Nope, I have no idea which would sell more since I don't know how the market will be like by that time.
Ok, you seemed to be pretty sure that 3DS won´t have a bigger "active userbase" by 2016. When it comes to sales I actually have no doubt which one would handily outsell the other, I don´t know what expectations you have but I doubt DQ11 would have an 80-90% attache-rate on PS4. And I see no reason why a hypothetical exclusive DQ11 for 3DS wouldn´t sell between 3.5-4.5 million units.

Just to put things in perspective, PS4 right now has barely sold more than 700k units so far and won´t even break a million this year. Let´s assume that in both 2015 and also 2016 they manage to sell as much as in PS3s best selling year. We would be looking at a userbase of ~4.5million. The attache rate to even reach 3.5m would be 77%, even with this optimistic userbase...
 
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Considering it seemed that Enix was cultivating a great DQ fanbase on 3DS (the remakes sold really well imo), I'd still think it'd be ridiculous to abandon it entirely for the PS4 for DQXI. While sure the PS4 is better than the Wii U & Vita thanks to the West, it seems kind of irrelevant given that this is a Japanese game and thus would sell the most on the 3DS of the current platforms. The DS was a MONSTER back in 2006 or so when DQ9 was announced, so that actually made sense and it paid off once they released it in like 2009. The PS4 likely won't even have the install base to support 3-4M DQ sales by itself in Japan, and unless Sony is planning to market it super heavily in the West or is just flat out paying Square Enix, putting DQ11 solely on PS4 seems stupid when the 3DS is available. A port to PS4 later seems fine though if they want a big screen option. Actually I'm sure Nintendo would be happy to promote DQ11 for the 3DS in the West, just as they did with DQ9, the best selling entry in the West for the franchise.

Watch it be a Vita TV exclusive just to screw with people =P.

Btw, Wii U JP release dates:
11/6 - Lego Movie Video Game
11/19 - Monster Hunter Frontier GG
11/20 - Fujiko F. Fujio Characters Daishuugou! SF Dotabata Party!
11/20 - Taiko no Tatsujin: Tokumori
11/27 - Gotouchi Tetsudou: Gotouchi Chara to Nihon Zenkoku no Tabi
12/4 - Watch Dogs - 12/4
12/8 - Kamen Rider Summonride
12/10 - Pac World 2
12/18 - Sonic Toon

Smash & Toad still w/ no dates. Namco supporting a platform like a first party this holiday season for Wii U =P.

sörine;132333602 said:
By 2016 which will have sold more in Japan, PS4 or New 3DS?
new 3DS, especially if you're talking about the beginning of 2016. I doubt FFXV will have released by then either. We haven't seen anything of KH3, so I'm not sure there, but I'd assume it's further behind in development unless it's just smaller in scale.
 
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Maybe they will pull a Ninokuni, so you don't really have to worry about it being ugly for PS4 standards.

I think DQXI is skipping the 3DS though, it's a 2016 game, let's not forget that.
DQIV came out 7 years after Famicom was launched.
DQVI came out 5 years after Super Famicom was launched.
DQVII came out 6 years after PS1 was launched.
DQVIII came out 4 years after PS2 was launched.
DQIX came out 5 years after DS was launched.
DQX came out 6 years after Wii was launched.
 
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DQIV came out 7 years after Famicom was launched.
DQVI came out 5 years after Super Famicom was launched.
DQVII came out 6 years after PS1 was launched.
DQVIII came out 4 years after PS2 was launched.
DQIX came out 5 years after DS was launched.
DQX came out 6 years after Wii was launched.
PS3 going for the record.
 
11/20 - Fujiko F. Fujio Characters Daishuugou! SF Dotabata Party!
11/20 - Taiko no Tatsujin: Tokumori
11/27 - Gotouchi Tetsudou: Gotouchi Chara to Nihon Zenkoku no Tabi
12/8 - Kamen Rider Summonride
12/10 - Pac World 2

Namco supporting a platform like a first party this holiday season for Wii U =P.
Yeah Namco Bandai is shockingly putting out FIVE Wii U games this holiday! o_O

I hope it really pays off. They likely want to replicate last holiday's success as Taiko Wii U did really well then.
 
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I laughed when the first thing the new SCEJA president said to Horii on stage was "Welcome home." He was so excited and happy.
Wow really. I also don't think DQH will be the only DQ game on PS4. They made quite a big deal about DQH though with the bundle and how they presented it at the conference.

The chances of a PS4 DQ11 are good now.

What is the highest selling JRPG released in the west with a cartoony artstyle?
Kingdom Hearts

It gives me great pleasure that people can say this and be serious about it.

Possibly that Nintendo's exclusive contract is out? Or none never existed and devs just despised the PS3's architecture.

God, please let Monster Hunter return to the Playstation CONSOLE space again. Would be able to die happy.
MH is different since its a portable franchise and the console ports usually are expected to have some kind of functionality with the handheld one.

Are there are ways to make it work between PS4 and 3DS?
 
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DQIV came out 7 years after Famicom was launched.
DQVI came out 5 years after Super Famicom was launched.
DQVII came out 6 years after PS1 was launched.
DQVIII came out 4 years after PS2 was launched.
DQIX came out 5 years after DS was launched.
DQX came out 6 years after Wii was launched.
Also, DQVII was launched when PS2 was already in the market (true also for FFIX, released one month earlier).
 
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PREDICTION LEAGUE OCTOBER 2014

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Sep 29 to Oct 26):

[3DS] New 3DS Hardware (16 days) - 280k
[3DS] New 3DS LL Hardware (16 days) - 275k
[3DS] Monster Hunter 4G (16 days) - 2139k
[PS3] Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 (25 days) - 168k
[PS4+PS3] Evil Within (4 days) - 71k
[3DS] Tales of the World Reve Unitia (4 days) - 72k

Probably overshooting a bit for some predictions. My last month is fucked due to the Xbox One anyway :p

I just think n3DS will sell better than the LL at first before really falling behind later.
 
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Yeah Namco Bandai is shockingly putting out FIVE Wii U games this holiday! o_O

I hope it really pays off. They likely want to replicate last holiday's success as Taiko Wii U did really well then.
Don't forget Smash too =P. Taiko Wii U did really well? Sure it did relatively well considering it was on the Wii U, but didn't previous entries all sell a ton better?
 
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I must point out that Square Enix prioritised 3DS over PS4 when it came to DQX despite the fact that the 3DS is significantly less suited to the game.

Last time I pointed that out it was dismissed on the basis that Nintendo obviously paid for exclusivity which clearly isn't the case if they are now releasing it on PS4.
 
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I must point out that Square Enix prioritised 3DS over PS4 when it came to DQX despite the fact that the 3DS is significantly less suited to the game.

Last time I pointed that out it was dismissed on the basis that Nintendo obviously paid for exclusivity which clearly isn't the case if they are now releasing it on PS4.
When did Square Enix announce a port of Dragon Quest X for PS4? A producer's interest doesn't always lead into an actual release.