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[Katana_Strikes]

Just because it exceeded our ridiculously low expectations doesn't make Bayo 2 not a bomba

If the bar for decent on WiiU is selling a bit better than W101, you aren't doing it right.

 

[duckroll]

Not sure why you guys think I never say anything positive about Level-5. I've always said Hino is a great businessman, and recognize his successes. But they made a lot of shitty RPGs too, and of course I'll never forgive him for Gundam AGE. So when he fails, I laugh at him. It's only fair, because he made us all suffer for a year with that crap on air. Lol.

 

[Pennywise83]

Also: PSV.

While it's doing better than last year, can its weekly average be considered disappointing? It's heading towards the 10k mark, which is actually pretty terrible for a hardware that has recently had a somehow constant flow of games.

 

[Sadist]

Someone hacked duckroll's account.

He can't deny the facts

 

[dugdug]

I hope Bayonetta 2 keeps selling with good word of mouth, i know this doesnt mean much, but the game was going to bomb unfortunately, with all the competition, being a niche game on a niche console, this is expected, Nintendo supported it well imo, bundling the original, TV ads, showing it at all their presentations, making a Direct, even funding it was a risk.
Even if they could do better with the Marketing, there is only so much they can do on WII U, a AAA campaign, for example, wouldnt make much sense.

Huh? It's an exclusive to their platform. It wouldn't make sense that they'd try to sell it?

Edit: unless I'm reading this wrong.

 

[boinx]

Bombanetta

 

[Mpl90]

Huh? It's an exclusive to their platform. It wouldn't make sense that they'd try to sell it?

Tell that to The Wonderful 101.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

3DS 43.592 | 39.569

:lol

 

[KingSnake]

I expected 20k for Bayonetta and while this is no success, it's decent by comparison to W101 and with some other 1st party games on Wii U, except the biggest sellers.

 

[crinale]

Just wondering how long it takes for XB1 to reach Bayo2's LTD.

 

[Kandinsky]

Dude what the fuck, not even a 5k bump from Bayo?, poor Nintendo.

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

Also: PSV.

While it's doing better than last year, can its weekly average be considered disappointing? It's heading towards the 10k mark, which is actually pretty terrible for a hardware that has recently had a somehow constant flow of games.

Well, it's already surpassed last year's sales with over 2 months left in the year. the glass is half full.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

PS4 drop is expected. It will not level out until PS4's library has a decent number of Japanese PS4 titles.

 

[Road]

Be aware that Monday is a national Holiday in Japan. So the shipment should be ready today to avoid stock problems tomorrow.

02./04. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Ganso / Honke <RPG> (Level 5) {2014.07.10} (¥4.937) - 56.380 / 2.525.591 (+20%)
09./08. [WIU] Mario Kart 8 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2014.05.29} (¥6.156) - 6.396 / 672.313 (-6%)
10./10. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch <RPG> (Level 5) {2013.07.11} (¥4.800) - 4.554 / 1.274.296 (-7%)
13./23. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 2.944 / 4.144.405
19./29. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.11.08} (¥4.800) - 2.554 / 3.788.095

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
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| 3DS # |     43.592 |     39.569 |    159.388 |  1.547.486 |  2.972.851 |  16.209.406 |
|  WIU  |      8.396 |      7.062 |      5.824 |    404.857 |    451.439 |   1.930.287 |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yep, holiday confirmed.

 

[allan-bh]

Why "Old" 3DS sales are growing?

 

[gloriousd]

Bombabox One and Bombanetta 2.

Sigh... those numbers are depressing but somewhat (heh) expected.

At least Smash is doing good.

 

[Busaiku]

Yep, holiday confirmed.

Ahh, that makes sense now.

 

[Wynnebeck]

That Bayonetta 2 bomba. Also PS4 is deaaaaaaad

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

I think it's the opposite. They seem to be able to get first parties to fund pretty ambitious titles with original ideas even when the market is cratering for such titles with little hope for the publisher to recoup the cost. They still get paid, the games still get made. Of course the concern now is what it means in the future.

Unfortunately/fortunately I think more contract jobs for existing IPs will be in their future. They can obviously make good games, but may need a bigger brand to find commercial success.

 

[zeromcd73]

PS4 drop is expected. It will not level out until PS4's library has a decent number of Japanese PS4 titles.

Feb-March 2015 can't come soon enough

Hopefully Sony has a full schedule for PS4 next year. Spring is looking good

 

[dugdug]

Tell that to The Wonderful 101.

Was there not a big marketing push for that one either? Genuine question, as, I don't really keep up with Nintendo.

 

[Infernal Monkey]

I guess Japanese men aren't into older women or women at all for that matter. *looks at Vita's top sellers* <_<

lol what

 

[Canis lupus]

Also: PSV.

While it's doing better than last year, can its weekly average be considered disappointing? It's heading towards the 10k mark, which is actually pretty terrible for a hardware that has recently had a somehow constant flow of games.

What were those games? It currently only has 1 game in the top 20.

 

[beril]

Huh? It's an exclusive to their platform. It wouldn't make sense that they'd try to sell it?

Edit: unless I'm reading this wrong.

Because they'd be spending more money on the marketing than they could realistically hope to make back through sales.

 

[NEO0MJ]

At least Smash is doing good.

That came at the cost of a Wii U bump, though.

 

[Mpl90]

Ah, right, this week we have also PS4 straight back into the territory of those who fail the Vegeta test.

And Destiny PS3 > Destiny PS4 this week. With a very good second week drop too.

 

[metalslimer]

Yep, holiday confirmed.

Ok this explains the 3ds bump better than declining Smash sales close to a new model does.

 

[SmokyDave]

Also: PSV.

While it's doing better than last year, can its weekly average be considered disappointing? It's heading towards the 10k mark, which is actually pretty terrible for a hardware that has recently had a somehow constant flow of games.

The last month has been pretty rough, that's for sure. I'm not entirely sure why it's dropped from 18-20k down to hovering just above 10k, but it has. The N3DS is going to put the hurt on it further shortly.

Next year is going to be far worse, I fear. It'll be interesting to see how (or if) Sony react. I can't imagine them mounting any sort of rescue operation, but I can see 'em putting the project to bed.

 

[CANLI]

I own a jap wii u. Does Bayonetta have English language in the game? , so I can buy it or I will wait next year until my brother buys a USA wii u.

3ds LTD will arise a lot with new 3ds, mh4, pokemon and other important games coming as One piece battle, FF explorers, Shingeki no kyojin 2,etc...

 

[Ratrat]

I guess Japanese men aren't into older women or women at all for that matter. *looks at Vita's top sellers* <_<

God Eater 2
Persona 4 Golden
Tokiden
FFX
Hatsune Miku f
Sword Art Online
Soul Sacrifice
...

Okay. You think all Japanese men are both vita and wii owners and are pedophiles based on the above top seller list and the fact that yet another platinum game bombed on a failed system.

 

[Eolz]

PS4 back to 6k next week.
Better week than expected, for old and new titles.

 

[Mpl90]

Yep, holiday confirmed.

And now 3DS increasing makes sense.

 

[RalchAC]

Huh? It's an exclusive to their platform. It wouldn't make sense that they'd try to sell it?

Edit: unless I'm reading this wrong.

I think he means that since most of the audience that buys games like Bayonetta 2 doesn't have any interest on the platform, the results wouldn't have been much better than that even if they did an expensive marketing campaign.

Or, at least, it wouldn't have made sense financially. It's better spending 100 and get back 20 than spending 250 and getting back 30.

 

[vinnygambini]

Also: PSV.

While it's doing better than last year, can its weekly average be considered disappointing? It's heading towards the 10k mark, which is actually pretty terrible for a hardware that has recently had a somehow constant flow of games.

It's like this every year

H1 = Sony systems sells decently with a marketing campaign accompanying a price drop, bundle or first-party title.

H2 = Nintendo doesn't leave any breathing room for their competitors

 

[Hero of Legend]

I think it should be pointed out just how expensive Bayo2 is due to Bayo1 being included, think it's the only region to reflect that, everywhere else it's normal price.

I don't know how much Bayo1 was on PS360, but I'd assume far less.

Now it's a question how much more it could've sold without Bayo1 and at a cheaper price.

 

[Ushiwaka]

I think it's the opposite. They seem to be able to get first parties to fund pretty ambitious titles with original ideas even when the market is cratering for such titles with little hope for the publisher to recoup the cost. They still get paid, the games still get made. Of course the concern now is what it means in the future.

How far can they go with this, is what my concern is. I hope they get to make games forever, but I'm worried that publishers don't think like that.

 

[EhoaVash]

Wtf why is the 3ds still selling she. The new o e is around thecorner

It seems bayo2 sold more than donkey kong country ropical freez

 

[Astral Dog]

Huh? It's an exclusive to their platform. It wouldn't make sense that they'd try to sell it?

Nintendo TRIED to sell it, like i said, but, at the end of the day, its a game for a niche audience, it didnt sell that well when it was on two very popular systems with " hardcore" gamers,had SEGA marketing, was released on a month with little competition, had the Developers pedigree behind it, was critically acclaimed, even considered one of the best action games, and who knows how many of the copies sold were at reduced prices, my point is, this game is not going to appeal to the typical gamer, the audience it had was not enough for SEGA to keep funding it, and was always a 360/PS3 game, Nintendo where the ones that funded it, and i hope someday the game has another chance at selling, but throwing more money at it is not going to magically make it a big success, no matter how much i wish it was

 

[metalslimer]

I think it should be pointed out just how expensive Bayo2 is due to Bayo1 being included, think it's the only region to reflect that, everywhere else it's normal price.

I don't know how much Bayo1 was on PS360, but I'd assume far less.

Now it's a question how much more it could've sold without Bayo1 and at a cheaper price.

Would have bombed regardless.

 

[Hero of Legend]

Would have bombed regardless.

Very possible.

 

[Ratrat]

I think it should be pointed out just how expensive Bayo2 is due to Bayo1 being included, think it's the only region to reflect that, everywhere else it's normal price.

I don't know how much Bayo1 was on PS360, but I'd assume far less.

Now it's a question how much more it could've sold without Bayo1 and at a cheaper price.

I think they were the same prices according to amazon. Also 8k isn't exactly unusual.

 

[gigantor21]

So Bayonetta 2 bombed so hard that it'll struggle to match the first one's launch numbers on the 360. Pretty much what I expected, but at least it's not as terrible as W101's performance.

 

[frankie_baby]

I think it should be pointed out just how expensive Bayo2 is due to Bayo1 being included, think it's the only region to reflect that, everywhere else it's normal price.

I don't know how much Bayo1 was on PS360, but I'd assume far less.

Now it's a question how much more it could've sold without Bayo1 and at a cheaper price.

Ah now that is a good point

Are they available seperately on the shop? anyone know how much for?

 

[Scum]

Not sure why you guys think I never say anything positive about Level-5. I've always said Hino is a great businessman, and recognize his successes. But they made a lot of shitty RPGs too, and of course I'll never forgive him for Gundam AGE. So when he fails, I laugh at him. It's only fair, because he made us all suffer for a year with that crap on air. Lol.

looool

 

[Ty4on]

Ok, someone explains to me why 3DS sales are HIGHER than last week, after SSB released, despite New 3DS approaching (at least for MC). I can't get it.

Maybe because Smash was so supply constrained last week they couldn't get a copy and delayed their 3DS purchase. Smash sales are still really high.

 

[Opiate]

I think it's the opposite. They seem to be able to get first parties to fund pretty ambitious titles with original ideas even when the market is cratering for such titles with little hope for the publisher to recoup the cost. They still get paid, the games still get made. Of course the concern now is what it means in the future.

This is how I feel. They're a studio that keeps getting large scale contracts even though they have a history of making games which are unpopular. That's catching a lot of breaks, frankly.

 

[Nirolak]

Now it's a question how much more it could've sold without Bayo1 and at a cheaper price.

I suspect the elasticity of demand for something like this is very low, so going lower would likely very marginally increase sales, but notably decrease revenue.

 

[Impotaku]

I own a jap wii u. Does Bayonetta have English language in the game? , so I can buy it or I will wait next year until my brother buys a USA wii u.

3ds LTD will arise a lot with new 3ds, mh4, pokemon and other important games coming as One piece battle, FF explorers, Shingeki no kyojin 2,etc...

Yeah there are options to turn the text & subs to english in the japanese version.

 

[Chris1964]

For PS4 selling so much last week mainly because of Destiny hype and not the bundle hype died really fast, didn't it?

3DS Smash could clear Brawl LTD before the end of the year. Online sales must be very big.

 

[NEO0MJ]

How can Bayo 2 bomb so bad ;_;

I mean, only 2% of Wii U owners bought it. What other games are the others so busy with?!