Pennywise83
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Media Create Sales: Week 39, 2014 (Sep 22 - Sep 28)
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Kinki no Magna?
That's not a lot for 2 new revisions and holidays.
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Omnistalgic
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MH I get, but what's up with Yokai Watch not being ported for Vita? It's a relatively new franchise?
Does the Japanese devs from Capcom/SE just not like doing more than one platform at a time or hate Sony lol...
Vita isn't on fire but it has a small user base, and PS3's is substantial, but I guess a console port wouldn't sell as much or something?
I dunno, I stopped trying to understand that market a long time ago, I just know I liked the old PS2 days much better than the portable dominated Japanese era.
Pennywise83
Banned
I think BS has a shot to debut as high; 250k is my bet. The first one sold around 400k considering all versions, and had an incredibly good WOM and cult following.
Are you sure you aren't the alt account of the other guy here who the only thing he posts is that he misses old Media Create threads where there weren't fanboys and were only real sale-agers?
I really hope so, I decided to ignore Gaf's naysayers about the game and I'm having a blast, amazing game, I'm on chapter 4 with 70'ish ahours, well worth the money already.
Omnistalgic
Member
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I have no idea what you're talking about...
Just following the tail end of the conversation bra.
and I'm not on Gaming GAF enough to even know who you're referring to.
It seems all it needs is to be on a PS system to have an "graphically impressive" DQ like DQ8. despite there already beeing a graphically better and more modern (due to its online focus) mainline DQ game. The irony is that PS2 was the weakest system of the trio that gen. If you want impressive visuals there already are better options available and by 2016/2017 all current systems will look even more outdated than they already are, when it comes to actual potential graphics. But as the weakest system was good enough for DQ8 it´s obvious that the best option for graphics is only secondary, when it comes to these discussions.
Graphics Horse
Member
It should easily surpass that on launch week, and most of December, it's just the ~6 weeks between I'm not sure about.
It always seemed weird to me to limit the HD remakes to PS3 when KH3 is bound for PS4/XBO. Perhaps they'll port all of them again when they're done?
FFX/X2 skipping 360 seemed odd too though given it came to Vita and was an early headlining announcement for it, it seems likely Sony moneyhatted it.
Magicpaint
Member
You couldn't have understood it terribly well during the PS2 era you seem to reminisce about now because not much has changed as far as the singular focus on the dominating space/platform(s). The GC wasn't on fire either, and it had a "small userbase" as well, but was hardly ever served any ports of the PS2's premier offerings.
SwiftDeath
Member
So Omega looks to have done poorly by retailer expectations. Why is it so expensive though?
Ah that would make perfect sense. Reading comprehension fail on my part.
test_account
XP-39C²
Tomb Raider is exclusive (timed exclusive that is, but who knows for how long) to Xbox One though. That decision was most likely made before the PS4 and Xbox One was released. It will be the same with Dragon Quest XI as well, that it started developement before those systems were out.sörine;132712949 said:
Does anyone knows when DQXI developement started by the way? Is there any info on that?
EDIT: Maybe Tomb Raider will be out for Xbox 360 too?
I think that sellthrough is for the limited edition only. There is also a regular version that is priced lower.
Japanese developers are verrrrrryyyyy bad at multiplatform development. Building a game on top of a multiplatform engine is such an alien concept that they specifically announce it every time they do it. Only the biggest of the bunch (Square, Capcom, Konami) have figured that out. And even these few still can't trickle the concept down into their handheld development processes.
Even Sony had a better multiplatform engine last gen than a single-digit count of Japanese 3rd party developers.
metalslimer
Member
This thread has been frustrating and amazing at the same time.
In a recent interview with Hino from Level 5 he was asked why 3DS was chosen as the platform for Youkai Watch (instead of smartphones or Vita, etc). He said that 3DS was the only viable option because YW is a children's game and all the kids are on the 3DS.
You make it sound as if 2013 had every week over 100k.
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|Week| 2013 | 2014 |
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| 40 | 122.987 | 122.987 | | |
| 41 | 213.570 | 336.557 | | | -> MH4G / new 3DS LL / new 3DS
| 42 | 154.578 | 491.135 | | |
| 43 | 109.508 | 600.643 | | |
| 44 | 88.376 | 689.019 | | |
| 45 | 81.817 | 770.836 | | |
| 46 | 70.102 | 840.938 | | |
| 47 | 84.506 | 925.444 | | | -> OR/AS
| 48 | 108.373 | 1.033.817 | | |
| 49 | 125.269 | 1.159.086 | | |
| 50 | 181.556 | 1.340.642 | | |
| 51 | 232.600 | 1.573.242 | | |
| 52 | 201.703 | 1.774.945 | | |
--------------------------------------------------1st Course
Member
Unless there is money under the table it just doesn't make sense to do single platform development in this day and age. And no I don't buy the cost excuses, with modern game engines like Unity and UE4 that are designed to scale to wide range of devices and can be had for cheap/free, mutliplatform development is now actually easier and cheaper than ever. If no name indie devs can do multiplatform development just fine, I don't see why multi-million companies can't.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Why exactly are folks even debating putting Youkai Watch on Vita? It's a kid oriented franchise that's selling like hotcakes on 3DS. If anything, the other "platform" to consider is mobile lol.
how do they plan on releasing KH3 then
But then again, that's coming way apart and could have a separate contract which allows digital content...
Sammy Samusu
Member
Level 5 already tried with a kid focused brand on Vita (Danball Senki). After how that sold it's no surprise they dumped the platform.
test_account
XP-39C²
I dont anyone is debating it. One guy just asked a question about it.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Sorry debating was the wrong term.
Also
Mario Kart 8 vs. Double Dash comparison =).
Code:
Mario Kart 8 Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Week 22 - 350.749 / 350.749 | 11/3/2003 - 179,230 / 179,230
Week 23 - 75.030 / 425.779 | 11/10/2003 - 67,662 / 246,892
Week 24 - 41.195 / 466.974 | 11/17/2003 - 40,054 / 286,946
Week 25 - 25.878 / 492.852 | 11/24/2003 - 39,983 / 326,839
Week 26 - 19.615 / 512.467 | 12/1/2003 - 32,855 / 359,694
Week 27 - 15.473 / 527.940 | 12/8/2003 - 40,445 / 400,139
Week 28 - 14.130 / 542.070 | 12/15/2003 - 70,091 / 470,230
Week 29 - 14.068 / 556.138 | 12/22/2003 - 97,619 / 567,849
Week 30 - 17.633 / 573.771 | 12/29/2003 - 91,895 / 659,744
Week 31 - 20.011 / 593.782 | 1/5/2004 - 26,023 / 685,767
Week 32 - 21.654 / 615.436 | 1/12/2004 - 14,652 / 700,419
Week 33 - 25.521 / 640.957 | 1/19/2004 - 9,750 / 710,169
Week 34 - 9.586 / 650.543 | 1/26/2004 - 7,508 / 717,677
Week 35 - 7.906 / 658.449 | 2/2/2004 - 5,686 / 723,363
Week 36 - 5.792 / 664.241 |
Week 37 - 4.859 / 669.100 |
Week 38 - 4.836 / 673.936 |
Week 39 - 4.111 / 678.047 |
| 12/20/2004 - (76K more) 799,071
| 12/27/2004 - 802,217
| 12/19/2005 - (23K more) / 825,894Edit: Actually less, it only has 123K to go w/ downloads: current LTD: 350,749 / 702,683
test_account
XP-39C²
I think that is a result more of the franchise itself, not necessarily the platforms that it was on (PSP, Vita, 3DS). If Vita was the only reason that held back the franchise, and that the popularity of the franchise itself wasnt the main reason, then the 3DS version should technically have sold a lot more. I dont think there is any new Danball Senki game coming anytime soon, if at all, regardless of platform.sörine;132772538 said:
Fair enough =)
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Code:
PSP Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc 34,583 213,881 Spike 2010-11-25
PSP Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair 59,112 101,149 Spike Chunsoft 2012-07-26
PSV DanganRonpa 1-2 Reload 70,803 115,735 Spike Chunsoft 2013-10-10
PSV Danganronpa: Another Episode 63,898 63,898 Spike Chunsoft 2014-09-25Well it looks like Danganronpa's spinoff is doing similarly to the second title and the Vita collection (these were just ports, right?).
Interestingly enough, most of the first game's sales were of the "Best" edition
Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc 34,583 81,221 2010-11-25
Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc [PSP the Best] 13,015 132,660 2011-11-23
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PSP The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky 14,610 107,044 Nihon Falcom 2006-09-28
PSP The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC 25,881 117,496 Nihon Falcom 2007-09-27
PSP The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky the 3rd 48,737 122,394 Nihon Falcom 2008-07-24
PSP The Legend of Heroes: Zero no Kiseki 91,424 120,283 Nihon Falcom 2010-09-30
PSP The Legend of Heroes: Ao no Kiseki 151,412 212,108 Nihon Falcom 2011-09-29
PSV The Legend of Heroes: Zero no Kiseki Evolution 25,856 49,000 Kadokawa Games 2012-10-18
PSV The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki 93,674 131,831 Nihon Falcom 2013-09-26
PSV The Legend of Heroes: Ao no Kiseki Evolution 26,488 36,074 Kadokawa Games 2014-06-12
PSV The Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki II 98,161 98,161 Nihon Falcom 2014-09-25BishopLamont
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04./02. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 2: Ganso / Honke <RPG> (Level 5) {2014.07.10} (¥4.937) - 66.847 / 2.592.438 (+19%)
to think i once posted this will "only" do at least as well as fantasy life, that anime really did wonders for the game
oh and Chris, i think its about time you eat that crow regarding it failing to reach 3m by the end of this year =p
to think i once posted this will "only" do at least as well as fantasy life, that anime really did wonders for the game
oh and Chris, i think its about time you eat that crow regarding it failing to reach 3m by the end of this year =p
how ironic yw is gonna be killing pokemon this holiday!
Graphics Horse
Member
I wouldn't have said anything if I wasn't aware of the previous numbers. I'm saying that certain weeks will obviously be above last year's average, but I'm not sure if it will be enough.
The new 3DS will have to do a much better job than the original 3DS LL did at boosting sales.
SwiftDeath
Member
Zsaber There's a small typo for 1/26/2014 under Mario Kart Double Dash
Otherwise very interesting to see so thanks!
The 3DS version did technically sell a lot more.
Danball Senki W (PSP) 155,877
Danball Senki W (Vita) 20,178
Danball Senki W Super Custom (3DS) 64,885
The franchise died out, but that's not the reason it cratered on Vita when it did. Vita as a platform was the issue comparably.
BlackLagoon
Member
The Vita version was essentially a PSP game dumped on the Vita - Level 5 couldn't even be bothered to change the controls, so the second analog stick was unused. I don't see it as a serious attempt at supporting the platform. The 3DS version on the other hand had new features and content, but still seemed to only confirm that the franchise was declining.sörine;132780497 said:
PSP and PSV versions launched at the same time in 2012, while the 3DS version of the game was released in 2013.
test_account
XP-39C²
Sure, i know that the 3DS version sold noticeably more than the Vita version indeed, but since Yokai Watch and Danball Senki was mentioned together/in coherence, i had that i mind, and i dont concider a ~45k difference to be a lot in that regards. I was thinking more of several 100ks in difference (are those numbers first week or LTD by the way? But i know that the 3DS version didnt sell tons more than the Vita version). Since the 3DS version didnt sell that much either, it shows that its more about the franchise itself rather than which platform the game is on. Yokai Watch has shown that the 3DS is more than capable of selling a lot more than 65k copies of a game that is mainly aimed toward kids.sörine;132780497 said:
Maybe i misunderstood your point earlier, but i read it as you ment that Level 5 basically tried to establish Danball Senki on the Vita on the same level as they tried to establish Yokai Watch on the 3DS (that Danball Senki on the Vita was going to be "the next big thing" and that Level 5 had much riding on this version), but then the game/version didnt sold that well and Level 5 decided to drop all Vita support only because of this. I agree that the sales of the Vita version of Danball Senki most likely didnt exactly spark much confidence for future projects on the Vita, but i think that they were more disappointed about the franchise sales as a whole, and not really mainly about the Vita version sales. It is afterall a PSP port, and from what i've read, they didnt exactly put a lot of work into the port (this is not a excuse, but maybe this shows that they didnt have that much high hopes for the Vita version to begin with).
I also think that Level 5 could have tried more Vita projects regardless of how Danball Senki sold, but Level 5 never had any serious support for the Vita in the first place, so i guess that they believed more in the 3DS instead overall (which was a smart move, especially seeing the huge success of Yokai Watch). They didnt drop the 3DS because the 3DS version of Danball Senki sold 65k for example, that is mainly why i think its more about the franchise instead of the platform regarding support. Personally, i think that if the Vita version of Danball Senki had sold 150k (and no PSP version existed), i think that the franchise would be dead today anyway and that Level 5 would have focused on the 3DS regardless. But who knows, only Hino has the real answer
EDIT: I rewrote some of the paragraphs to word my point better.
EDIT 2: And just to be clear, i dont think that Vita was the best choice of platform for Danball Senki, i agree that the 3DS was a better choice. I just dont think that the Vita version is what really made Level5 drop the platform for every future projects. I think its more because they think that they can do better on the 3DS regardless of the Vita.
Sammy Samusu
Member
NDS : Ni no Kuni: Shikkoku no Madoushi ( Level 5 ) { 2010-12-09 } - 177,249 / 575,629
Legend.
Too bad if fell victim of MHP3, but people were clearly interested in Ninokuni.
They should make a sequel for PS4/3DS, especially now, I imagine L5 have a lot of workers available, unless they are all working on Youkai Watch spin-offs.
Legend.
Too bad if fell victim of MHP3, but people were clearly interested in Ninokuni.
They should make a sequel for PS4/3DS, especially now, I imagine L5 have a lot of workers available, unless they are all working on Youkai Watch spin-offs.
That game comes out in 2022. Square Enix will have lots of time to write up a new contract with Disney.
I do have to wonder how old the existing one is. There hasn't even been a modern smartphone KH.
Yeah, when it hit the bomba bins. Level-5 shipped like 500k during week 1.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Bomba bin alone wouldn't carry the game to almost 600k copies. People were interested, and they bought the game.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Super Mario 3D World vs. Super Mario Sunshine
Yup sure thing. I forgot about downloads for MK8 btw. Since there were about 24K of them, it's that much closer (123K to go!)
Code:
Super Mario 3D World (Wii U) Super Mario Sunshine (GC)
Super Mario 3D World (Wii U) Super Mario Sunshine (GC)
2013-11-18 106.967 / 106.967 2002-07-15 280,610 280,610
2013-11-25 39.306 / 146.273 2002-07-22 102,576 383,186
2013-12-02 39.298 / 185.571 2002-07-29 59,975 443,161
2013-12-09 60.318 / 245.889 2002-08-05 39,562 482,723
2013-12-16 92.993 / 338.882 2002-08-12 43,921 526,644
2013-12-23 71.159 / 410.041 2002-08-19 22,794 549,438
2014-12-30 60.397 / 470.438 2002-08-26 18,588 568,026
2014-01-06 14.584 / 485.022 2002-09-02 13,739 581,765
2014-01-13 11.694 / 496.716 2002-09-09 9,891 591,656
2014-01-20 10.128 / 506.844 2002-09-16 8,929 600,585
2014-01-27 8.288 / 515.132 2002-09-23 8,820 609,405
2014-02-03 5.448 / 520.580 2002-09-30 6,827 616,232
2014-02-10 5.222 / 525.802 2002-10-07 5,927 622,159
2014-02-17 4.614 / 530.416 2002-10-14 6,146 628,305
2014-02-24 ? - off charts 2002-10-21 5,194 633,499
2014-03-03 ? - off charts 2002-10-28 5,112 638,611
2014-03-10 ? - off charts 2002-11-04 4,366 642,977
? 2002-12-23 0 677,440
2014-05-05 - 2.968 / 563.752 ?
2014-05-21 - 1.674 / 567.276
2014-?-? - ? / 580,238 - w/ downloads & some other sales
? 2003-12-22 (84K) 761,798
? 2004-12-20 (28K) 789,989Yup sure thing. I forgot about downloads for MK8 btw. Since there were about 24K of them, it's that much closer (123K to go!)
AcademicSaucer
Member
i hope not, that game was made by the rune factory guys right ?
For like $10.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Lol Busaiku. Just look at this...
From our own threads:
02. / 00. [NDS] Ni no Kuni: The Ebony Wizard (Level 5) {09/12/10} - 170.548 / NEW
09. / 02. [NDS] Ni no Kuni: The Ebony Wizard (Level 5) {09/12/10} - 74.329 / 244.877 (-56%)
09. / 09. [NDS] Ni no Kuni: The Ebony Wizard (Level 5) {2010.12.09} - 84.115 / 328.992 (+13%)
07. / 09. [NDS] Ni no Kuni: The Ebony Wizard (Level 5) {2010.12.09} - 53.295 / 382.287 (-37%)
06. / 07. [NDS] Ni no Kuni: The Ebony Wizard (Level 5) {2010.12.09} - 37.237 / 419.524 (-30%)
04. / 06. [NDS] Ni no Kuni: The Ebony Wizard (Level 5) {2010.12.09} - 19.020 / 438.544 (-49%)
06. / 04. [NDS] Ni no Kuni: The Ebony Wizard (Level 5) {2010.12.09} - 12.608 / 451.152 (-34%)
18. / 06. [NDS] Ni no Kuni: The Ebony Wizard (Level 5) {2010.12.09} - 8.814 / 459.967 (-30%)
18. / 18. [NDS] Ni no Kuni: The Ebony Wizard (Level 5) {2010.12.09} - 7.595 / 467.561 (-14%)
19. / 18. [NDS] Ni no Kuni: The Ebony Wizard (Level 5) {2010.12.09} - 7.267 / 474.828 (-4%)
20. / 19. [NDS] Ni no Kuni: The Ebony Wizard (Level 5) {2010.12.09} - 6.174 / 481.003 (-15%)
You really think they all sold at terrible prices? jeez...