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[Gianni Merryman]

Nintendo announced today Jam with the Band for 3DS. What's the state of the franchise?

[NDS] Daigasso! Band Brothers (Nintendo) - 32.272 / 164.166 / 19,66% 02/12/04
[NDS] Daigasso! Band Brothers DX (Nintendo) - 122.183 / 496.930 / 24,59% 26/06/08

I didn't see this coming...

Iirc this was one of the biggest hits on NDS during its early life, but remains to be seen whether this will be able to replicate the success of its previous installations, as we've learnt from Brain training that the market has changed since.

 

[XDDX]

Nintendo announced today Jam with the Band for 3DS. What's the state of the franchise?

[NDS] Daigasso! Band Brothers (Nintendo) - 32.272 / 164.166 / 19,66% 02/12/04
[NDS] Daigasso! Band Brothers DX (Nintendo) - 122.183 / 496.930 / 24,59% 26/06/08

Had no idea DX sold that much. Those are pretty amazing numbers.

 

[king zell]

is't just me or the 3DS doesn't have any upcoming releases until MH4 in March!

strange really being the best selling system for along time and no new game announcement for some time now!

the vita for crying out loud has games coming out in Jan-Feb

 

[frankie_baby]

is't just me or the 3DS doesn't have any upcoming releases until MH4 in March!

strange really being the best selling system for along time and no new game announcement for some time now!

the vita for crying out loud has games coming out in Jan-Feb

Well there's some little game, think its called animal crossing, out in a couple of weeks, don't think anyone will buy it though

 

[Takao]

is't just me or the 3DS doesn't have any upcoming releases until MH4 in March!

strange really being the best selling system for along time and no new game announcement for some time now!

the vita for crying out loud has games coming out in Jan-Feb

Err, there's a lot coming out in Japan. It would certainly help the appearance if Level-5 didn't drop their last 2 years of development all within a few weeks, lol.

 

[king zell]

sorry i meant after December

 

[Mpl90]

is't just me or the 3DS doesn't have any upcoming releases until MH4 in March!

strange really being the best selling system for along time and no new game announcement for some time now!

the vita for crying out loud has games coming out in Jan-Feb

Considering the rest of the year is packed, I think you're talking about next year.
There are many titles incoming in 2013, and many of them confirmed, or almost surely, coming in the first half

Monster Hunter 4
Professor Layton 6
Magical's Quest
Shin Megami Tensei IV
Luigi's Mansion
Tomodachi Collection
Jam with the Band
Dragon Ball
Vanguard! Card Battle
Magi RPG
(maybe) Guild 02

Some of them have been announced right before TGS, and there are other titles so vague right now which won't probably be out during the first half ( Yokai Watch, Kaioh).

It's just that they need to be dated. And there should be other announcements in the next future, even low profile ones ( recently, there have been announcements like the game adaptation of a certain anime / manga called "Rhythm Style" or something like that and the porting of Elminage Gothic).

 

[extralite]

The game is published by L5 though.

So only Koei Tecmo and Kadokawa publish at cheaper prices so far. 3rd parties often have higher base prices than Nintendo, even at reduced prices they're more expensive than the Nintendo titles. I guess they offer the lower DD prices to be more competitive.

L5 apparently doesn't think that's necessary. Not a good trend for consumers at all. It isn't a game you need to have on your 3DS for daily use either.

I hope the other larger publishers will give the adjusted price model a chance. The games are still more expensive than Amazon this way, it's just a way to be less of a rip off.

 

[Mpl90]

So only Koei Tecmo and Kadokawa publish at cheaper prices so far. 3rd parties often have higher base prices than Nintendo, even at reduced prices they're more expensive than the Nintendo titles. I guess they offer the lower DD prices to be more competitive.

L5 apparently doesn't think that's necessary. Not a good trend for consumers at all. It isn't a game you need to have on your 3DS for daily use either.

I hope the other larger publishers will give the adjusted price model a chance. The games are still more expensive than Amazon this way, it's just a way to be less of a rip off.

And Capcom. MH3G on DD will cost a little lower than the budget version.

 

[Mr Swine]

Well Nintendo has this Xmas all for itself. I feel somewhat sorry for Sony but they dug their hole with Vita so...

 

[jimmypython]

Well Nintendo has this Xmas all for itself. I feel somewhat sorry for Sony but they dug their hole with Vita so...

Yeah, the only one SCEJ can blame is itself. They total screwed up the best handheld to date (IMO).

 

[Takao]

Speaking of which, Dragon Ball Heroes Ultimate Mission will probably be fully revealed soon. There's a Dragon Ball Heroes festival commemorating the game's 2 year anniversary on November 4.

Hard to say if that will sell any large number as it's a port of a Data Carddass game and Dragon Ball isn't the hot property it once was in Japan. It'll probably benefit from the marketing the new Movie will get.

I think I mentioned this in an earlier thread, but 2012 is momentous for Dragon Ball video games in Japan. It's the first year in about a decade where a new one isn't released in the country. The west received Dragon Ball Z for Kinect, and the Budokai HD Collection. Neither have been announced for Japan.

 

[king zell]

Speaking of which, Dragon Ball Heroes Ultimate Mission will probably be fully revealed soon. There's a Dragon Ball Heroes festival commemorating the game's 2 year anniversary on November 4.

Hard to say if that will sell any large number as it's a port of a Data Carddass game and Dragon Ball isn't the hot property it once was in Japan. It'll probably benefit from the marketing the new Movie will get.

I think I mentioned this in an earlier thread, but 2012 is momentous for Dragon Ball video games in Japan. It's the first year in about a decade where a new one isn't released in the country. The west received Dragon Ball Z for Kinect, and the Budokai HD Collection. Neither have been announced for Japan.

2 weeks ago.

 

[Takao]

Are you sure that's not a general Asia (Hong Kong) copy that's been imported?

 

[king zell]

Are you sure that's not a general Asia (Hong Kong) copy that's been imported?

am not sure really

 

[Takao]

am not sure really

It's beside an import of Just Dance 4, and XCOM so I'm going to guess so.

Edit: Yep, that's an import. This is the box art for the Hong Kong release:

 

[Hobby]

Idolmaster Shiny Festa Groovy Tune on PSP seems to be selling well. Apparently sold out at one Sofmap in Osaka (second shipment due soon), and there's a fair bit of discussion about it being sold out on Twitter.

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/6700777.html

 

[CrunchyFrog]

It's beside an import of Just Dance 4, and XCOM so I'm going to guess so.

Edit: Yep, that's an import. This is the box art for the Hong Kong release:

Free Goku hair holy shit

 

[Meccanical]

Free Goku hair holy shit

Now we all can look like Goku.

 

[Takao]

Free Goku hair holy shit

It's like a Burger King crown. For some reason they printed QR codes that unlock stuff all over the back of it, lol.

Idolmaster Shiny Festa Groovy Tune on PSP seems to be selling well. Apparently sold out at one Sofmap in Osaka (second shipment due soon), and there's a fair bit of discussion about it being sold out on Twitter.

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/6700777.html

This is why Bandai Namco still has PSP games scheduled for mid-2013.

 

[sphinx]

This is why Bandai Namco still has PSP games scheduled for mid-2013.

but doesn't this sink the Vita ship even more into the depths of the ocean?? everyone avoids Vita like a pest, they should be releasing games for next (current) gen already.

I've always said it, it is in the own interest of devs/publishers to help keep hardware alive, since it is there where they can subsist, having the "sorry, your hardware hasn't sold" mindset will bite them in the ass as options and platforms start disappearing.

they can keep doing games for PSP but once that is gone and Vita dies a premature death (if it does), they'll only have nintendo like in the gameboy days.

 

[mujun]

am not sure really

Asian version. Sticker says so right on the front.

 

[electroplankton]

Is Bravely Default still hard to find? Seems sold-out again on Amazon.
It'd be a shame if it will lose sales because of supply problems. At least there are no important releases on 3DS until Animal Crossing, so it will have some room for improvement.

 

[donny2112]

It'd be a shame if it will lose sales because of supply problems.

And that's one of the main reasons to have digital versions, even if they are overpriced for what you could find in a store (if you could find it in a store). Don't think SE did a digital version with BD:FF, though. Maybe for BD:FF2.

 

[muu]

but doesn't this sink the Vita ship even more into the depths of the ocean?? everyone avoids Vita like a pest, they should be releasing games for next (current) gen already.

I've always said it, it is in the own interest of devs/publishers to help keep hardware alive, since it is there where they can subsist, having the "sorry, your hardware hasn't sold" mindset will bite them in the ass as options and platforms start disappearing.

they can keep doing games for PSP but once that is gone and Vita dies a premature death (if it does), they'll only have nintendo like in the gameboy days.

Scamco, Capcom, Konami especially, etc are all investing in other mobile platforms such as iOS, mobage/gree. At this point they have no need for another handheld platform.

 

[Hobby]

Media Create top 50 is up. Little Battlers W PSP 44.87% sellthrough, Vita 56.30%. For comparison Little Battlers in June of last year had 80% sellthrough.

http://www.m-create.com/ranking/

Edit: Seems Wii U demo units might be going out to shops in Japan in November if this game shop manager is to be believed.

http://magital.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-37.html

Edit 2: AKB48+Me download cards.

 

[king zell]

Idolmaster Shiny Festa (this week bigges release)

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/105039/

Zone of the Enders HD Collection hits Japan

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/105028/

more releases for the week

http://www.true-gaming.net/home/105018/

 

[slaughterking]

Media Create top 50 is up. Little Battlers W PSP 44.87% sellthrough, Vita 56.30%.

Eww, normally I'd say this is not the end of the world for this type of game, but in this case it might actually be just that. I'm not even sure if the 3DS could get the franchise back on track. I just seems fundamentally mismanaged.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

MH3U out of the Top 50, did they really have to announce the Best Price that earlier? :/

36./38. [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Explosive Boost

LOL Some people bought the wrong game.

 

[electroplankton]

MH3U out of the Top 50, did they really have to announce the Best Price that earlier? :/

36./38. [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Explosive Boost

LOL Some people bought the wrong game.

This game might well reach the sales of Boost PSP, and that's incredible.

 

[Aostia]

Monster Hunter 4
Professor Layton 6
Magical's Quest
Shin Megami Tensei IV
Luigi's Mansion
Tomodachi Collection
Jam with the Band
Dragon Ball
Vanguard! Card Battle
Magi RPG
(maybe) Guild 02

No games!

Eww, normally I'd say this is not the end of the world for this type of game, but in this case it might actually be just that. I'm not even sure if the 3DS could get the franchise back on track. I just seems fundamentally mismanaged.

3DS iteration is still selling despite being a third ri-edition of the same old game, so..let's wait and see.

 

[Takao]

Eww, normally I'd say this is not the end of the world for this type of game, but in this case it might actually be just that. I'm not even sure if the 3DS could get the franchise back on track. I just seems fundamentally mismanaged.

The Vita copies aren't going anywhere, lol. The PSP ones might continue to sell in the run up to the movie, and may benefit from some kids getting the One Piece bundle for the holidays. But yeah, the way Level-5 has handled LBX has been horrible. I've never seen a new IP so young be managed this poorly before. It was getting milked before it even got a footing.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Are you enjoying LBX or is it too kiddy?

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

And Capcom. MH3G on DD will cost a little lower than the budget version.

And Namco Bandai given the pricing of TTT2 on Wii U eShop. Really it's just Nintendo and Level 5 going "full price".

 

[Takao]

Are you enjoying LBX or is it too kiddy?

The combat seems incredibly basic, but I don't know if that's due to the game or my lack of Japanese knowledge. From what I've done so far I can only launch 2 separate attacks.

 

[radioheadrule83]

Free Goku hair holy shit

That "free goku hair" label isn't big enough, sales will not be maximised goddamnit! -- the world needs to know!!

 

[Road]

Prediction League November 2012

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from Oct 29 to Nov 25):

[PS3]     Tales of Xillia 2                      (25 d)-
[PS3]     Yakuza 1 & 2 HD                        (25 d)-
[3DS]     Animal Crossing: New Leaf              (18 d)-
[PSP]     Summon Night 4                         (11 d)-
[PS3]     Everybody's Golf 6                     (4 d) -
[PS3+3DS] E.X. Troopers                          (4 d) -
[PS3+360] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Subtitled (4 d) -
[3DS]     Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Magnagate     (3 d) -

(25 d = 25 days of sales)

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Deadline: October, 31st 09:00 am (EDT) (when Famitsu and Media Create publish the weekly sales)


Attention:

• Remember for some games it's not only the 1st week.
• Multiplatform games are the combined available sales of each platform.

Rules:

• The official monthly sales will be the latest total available from the Famitsu Top 30.
• The official monthly sales for multi-platform releases will be the combined available sales of each platform shown in the title entry.
• The official monthly sales for games with multiple versions will be the combined available sales of each version shown in the title entry.
• Any game missing in the Famitsu top 30 will be taken out of the predictions.
• Any game missing in your prediction will be considered as if you had predicted zero for its sales.

 

[frankie_baby]

This game might well reach the sales of Boost PSP, and that's incredible.

Wouldn't be surprised if its higher than w (combined even) when the end of year figures come out though the over shipment on the sequel could mean it has a trip to the bomba bin to take it higher

 

[maverick40]

Sony, kill the fucking psp in Japan.

 

[grimshawish]

Sony, kill the fucking psp in Japan.

'Killing it', killing it would only help the 3DS at this point in time.

 

[Daschysta]

Sony, kill the fucking psp in Japan.

Its support would go to the 3DS, not the Vita.

 

[maverick40]

Its support would go to the 3DS, not the Vita.

What are you basing that off? Surely, the devs could just start putting their games on the Vita, no? Maybe I am wrong. What are SCEJ doing though??

 

[Takao]

What are you basing that off? Surely, the devs could just start putting their games on the Vita, no? Maybe I am wrong. What are SCEJ doing though??

The costs associated with developing on 3DS are closer to PSP than Vita is. 3DS also is much closer to the PSP's install base than Vita is.

As for what SCEJ is doing, well ... They're making a bunch of partnerships with third parties, but unfortunately they're the groups that aren't exactly full of blockbuster must-haves. I'm also suspecting they may be offering a PSP -> Vita development kit based off of LBX W's near machine-like Vita conversion. They need Vita to be cheaper, and they need it to have big name games. Killing PSP isn't going to guarantee either.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

Prediction League November 2012

[PS3] Tales of Xillia 2 (345,678)
[PS3] Yakuza 1 & 2 HD (234,567)
[3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf (321,012)
[PSP] Summon Night 4 (56,789)
[PS3] Everybody's Golf 6 (98,765)
[PS3+3DS] E.X. Troopers (121,234)
[PS3+360] Call of Duty: Black Ops II - Subtitled (198,765)
[3DS] Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Magnagate (176,543)

 

[Chris1964]

21./09. [PS3] Rocksmith <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2012.10.11} (¥8.880)
22./12. [PSP] Sol Trigger <RPG> (Image Epoch) {2012.10.04} (¥6.279)
23./15. [PSP] Summon Night 3 <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.10.04} (¥3.990)
24./19. [3DS] Brain Age: Concentration Training <HOB> (Nintendo) {2012.07.28} (¥3.800)
25./22. [WII] Wii Sports Resort with Wii Remote Plus # <SPT> (Nintendo) {2010.11.11} (¥5.800)
26./21. [WII] Dragon Quest X: Mezameshi Itsutsu no Shuzoku Online # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.08.02} (¥6.980)
27./00. [PSV] FIFA 13 <SPT> (Electronic Arts) {2012.10.18} (¥5.980)
28./20. [3DS] Kobito Zukan: Kobito Kansatsu Set <ETC> (Nippon Columbia) {2012.07.26} (¥5.040)
29./00. [360] FIFA 13 <SPT> (Electronic Arts) {2012.10.18} (¥7.665)
30./23. [PS3] Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning <RPG> (Spike Chunsoft) {2012.09.20} (¥8.190)
31./18. [PSP] Final Fantasy III <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.09.20} (¥3.990)
32./24. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800)
33./00. [PSP] FIFA 13 <SPT> (Electronic Arts) {2012.10.18} (¥4.979)
34./25. [WII] Mario Party 9 <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.04.26} (¥5.800)
35./14. [PS3] Dishonored <RPG> (Bethesda Softworks) {2012.10.11} (¥5.980)
36./38. [3DS] Little Battlers eXperience: Explosive Boost <RPG> (Level 5) {2012.07.05} (¥4.400)
37./30. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Definitive Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.11.23} (¥5.040)
38./31. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800)
39./27. [3DS] Samurai Warriors: Chronicles 2nd <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.09.13} (¥6.090)
40./33. [WII] Just Dance Wii 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.26} (¥5.800)
41./29. [PS3] Dead or Alive 5 # <FTG> (Koei Tecmo) {2012.09.27} (¥8.190)
42./26. [3DS] Medarot 7: Kabuto / Kuwagata <RPG> (Rocket Company) {2012.09.13} (¥6.090)
43./41. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.05.31} (¥5.490)
44./39. [WII] Kirby's Dream Collection: Special Edition <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.07.19} (¥3.800)
45./28. [PS3] F1 2012 <RCE> (Codemasters) {2012.10.04} (¥7.770)
46./46. [PS3] Assassin's Creed I + II Welcome Pack <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2012.07.19} (¥2.940)
47./37. [PS3] Tekken Tag Tournament 2 <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.09.13} (¥7.980)
48./48. [PSP] God Eater: Burst (PSP the Best) <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.09.15} (¥2.800)
49./36. [PS3] Sleeping Dogs <ACT> (Square Enix) {2012.09.27} (¥7.980)
50./44. [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Dubbed Edition (Bargain Edition) <ACT> (Square Enix) {2012.09.06} (¥3.990)

Top 50

3DS - 15
PS3 - 13
PSP - 10
WII - 6
PSV - 3
360 - 2
NDS - 1

SOFTWARE

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|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
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|  ALL  |    632.000 |    823.000 |    835.000 | 37.490.000 | 36.096.000 |
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[lunchwithyuzo]

This game might well reach the sales of Boost PSP, and that's incredible.

I thought it was already near that (170k vs 150k)? The way it's been going, I wouldn't be surprised if 3DS Boost does more in the end, maybe even breaking 200k.

 

[grimshawish]

What are you basing that off? Surely, the devs could just start putting their games on the Vita, no? Maybe I am wrong. What are SCEJ doing though??

PSP's main system seller is on the 3DS for one thing (big lesson from PSP to Vita, you can't have all your eggs in one basket if that basket is third party and theres a bigger basket available for them to fill which will look overall more appealing to the customer); Nintendo has quite aggressively expanded into Sony's traditional market - making up for some of the older DS owners who I suspect have in some cases moved onto the new devices in the market place.

Add PSP+Vita - it hardly makes a success story. Its 3DS levels before the price cut and is in decline. Vita is providing no growth and has shrunk Sony's market share considerably.

PSP buyers will see 3DS as the better platform (and comparable to the PSP in terms of content, except with added Nintendo); whilst third parties will follow the userbase and development costs and go with 3DS.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

One thing I find curious is that 3DS hasn't gotten any 3rd party MH clones yet and indeed all those games seem Vita bound instead (Ragnorak Odyssey, God Eater 2, Lord of Apocalypse, PSO2, Valhalla Knights 3). Is SCE actively courting these sorts of games (beyond Soul Sacrifice) since they lost the genre king or is it really happening to just work out this way in all these cases?

Really surprised SE and BN haven't jumped and tried something yet. Toriko 3DS going turn based JRPG seems like a missed opportunity.

 

[Road]

Dengeki Sales: Oct 15 - Oct 21, 2012 (Week 42)

01. (__) [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience W (Level 5) - 76,775 / 76,775
02. (01) [3DS] Bravely Default: Flying Fairy (Square Enix) - 44,433 / 184,674 (-68%)
03. (02) [PS3] Resident Evil 6 (Capcom) - 37,272 / 776,777 (-64%)
04. (__) [PS3] FIFA 13 (Electronic Arts) - 32,753 / 32,753
05. (04) [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 (Konami) - 27,222 / 304,347 (-46%)
06. (__) [PSV] The Legend of Heroes: Zero no Kiseki Evolution (Kadokawa Games) - 24,669 / 24,669
07. (06) [3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 (Nintendo) - 22,417 / 1,279,674 (-22%)
08. (__) [PSV] Little Battlers eXperience W (Level 5) - 15,335 / 15,335
09. (07) [3DS] Style Savvy: Trendsetters (Nintendo) - 14,756 / 140,279 (-37%)
10. (09) [3DS] Run For Money Tousouchuu: Shijou Saikyou no Hunter-tachi kara Nigekire! (Bandai Namco) - 13,922 / 197,396 (-19%)
11. (03) [3DS] Project X Zone (Bandai Namco) - 11,306 / 89,256 (-85%)
12. (__) [PSP] Hakuoki: Yuugiroku 2 - Matsuribayashi to Taishitachi (Idea Factory) - 10,444 / 10,444
13. (12) [PS3] Rocksmith (Ubisoft) - 7,050 / 17,900 (-35%)
14. (10) [PSP] SD Gundam G Generation Overworld (Bandai Namco) - 6,768 / 258,548 (-44%)
15. (15) [3DS] Art Academy: Lessons for Everyone (Nintendo) - 6,767 / 101,640 (-20%)
16. (__) [360] Monster Hunter Frontier Online - Forward.5 Premium Package (Capcom) - 6,150 / 6,150
17. (13) [PSP] Summon Night 3 (Bandai Namco) - 5,928 / 63,561 (-45%)
18. (05) [PS3] Tokitowa (Bandai Namco) - 5,283 / 34,630 (-82%)
19. (16) [3DS] Taiko Drum Master: Chibi Dragon to Fushigina Orb (Bandai Namco) - 5,167 / 244,601 (-16%)
20. (08) [PSP] Diabolik Lovers (Idea Factory) - 4,913 / 24,942 (-75%)

*ST: Sell-through => estimated copies shipped.


Other software (first week / LTD):

2011-06-16 [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience (Level 5) - 167,000 / 365,000
2011-11-23 [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience: Boost (Level 5) - 63,000 / 252,000


http://news.dengeki.com/elem/000/000/552/552346/
http://news.dengeki.com/soft/ranking/ranking.html (backup)

Dengeki Sales: Week 41, 2012 (Oct 08 - Oct 14)

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2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012

 

[Spiegel]

2011-06-16 [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience (Level 5) -

The franchise started 16 months ago and it has had 4 releases. Is this a first?